Why does socialism and communism always fail?

Why does socialism and communism always fail?

Because it doesn't understand economics nor human nature.

Because resources are limited and the propensity for human greed is limitless.

You run out of things to take from people.

Nobody has any actual method for implementing communism so they just flounder with command economies

you eventually run out of other people's money

Natural state of human organization is to have a corrupt oligarchy running everything. Democracy creates competition among oligarchic groups, shit like communism allows them to simply not give a fuck since no one can threaten their status.

How does socialism fail? Look at Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands - basically all of western Europe. It's all better than any part of the US.

granted, they all fucked themself over with sandniggers, but that has literally ZERO things to do with socialism and everything with europeans being too naive.

Having a market economy and giving welfare to niggers and lazy neets isn't socialism.

Television
People get to see how people in capitalist society live and want in on that
Communism is a good building block for a society though

>How does socialism fail? Look at Sweden, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands - basically all of western Europe. It's all better than any part of the US.
lol. This is what the Euro actually believes...

because niggers

not real socialism

Yeeeah right if it works it's not real socialism all of a sudden. Sup Forums is retarded

because they are designed to fail. the point of these ideas is to destroy the culture of the host society via perpetual revolution and unrest, thus allowing jewish parasites to flourish

Except you have a free market instead of being totally controlled by the government.

Hint: China isn't really communist, either.

The socialists eventually run out of other peoples money.

For the communists:
- Authoritarian countries become corrupt.
- Corrupt countries become poor.
- Poor countries become weak.

>Calling social democracy, a center-left ideology that the hard left marxists utterly rejected an example of socialism
Economically illiterate much?

In order for socialism/communism to work, you must first eliminate sloth, greed, envy, gluttony, and pride.

Those are welfare states that allow private enterprise. Not socialism.

How come you call these states socialist on here all the time then?
And how come our system works better than yours? You always complain there are no good systems but to me it seems Europe found a way.

When you're living in a communist society, nothing is yours. It's all owned by the state and you must work relentlessly. Work harder and longer than anybody else? You get nothing for your efforts, everybody gets the same, including the guy who sat down and watched you do so. Your prime reward will be food - there's any around to be had - rationed of course because everybody according to their needs.

Are you retarded?
Socialism in Europe?
And btw Germany's givernment is progressive, not socialist.

that is not socialism omg people this day and age thinking northern european countries' economic policies are socialists

how did communism fail?

china literally torches muslims with flamethrowers and nigger-shames all black people. its homogenous and the country prefers their own race as opposed to openly accepting degeneracy and minorities

what did capitalism and Jewish globalism bring to the west? BLM? Sharia Blue?

>How come you call these states socialist on here all the time then?
I don't, the libertarian fags and some burgers who fell for the "Bernie is a commie" meme did. I personally call stalinist regimes communist (Soviet union during Stalin, North Korea, Cambodia) and all the marxist regimes who fall short of a complete totalitarianism I call socialist (soviet union after Stalin, China, Venezuela, Cuba)

This is because communism to me means that absolutely everything is state-owned while socialist means that some exceptions to hardcore marxist principles are made to make the system more sustainable. However, Sweden, Norway etc. are not marxist, therefore can't be socialist/communist. These countries are social democratic, which is nothing more than regular good old capitalism + high taxes + lots of welfare + free higher education.

Humans are inherently greedy and selfish. While we are capable of kindness and selflessness, it comes second to our greed. Capitalism is build around this and it works because it relies on humans being selfish. Its ugly but honest. All of the alternative economic approaches are built on unreliable concepts. With communism, everybody continues to act selfishly. This leads to mass inefficiency because people are getting the same money either way and will instead minimise the effort that they have to put in. Its a system that requires selflessness filled with selfish people.

crappy incentive structure. Each worker's contribution is so minor that he can individually benefit from slacking off with no loss in overall productivity. The prisoner's dilemma ensues - with everyone defecting by slacking off.

socialism/communism is the creed of envy you fucking nitwit

Because it is based on the notion that man is fundamentally good formulated by philosophers like Voltaire and Rousseau.
Marx adopted this notion.
Christian theologians and the philosophers of antiquity held the exact opposite to be true.
Man is an inherently sinful creature that needs to be controlled by his own will on one side and society on the other.

state capitalists don't give the means of production to the workers.
It's basically that you can't trust your government.

Corruption, no accountability for higher ups, ever increasing centralization, not starting to dismantle state, imperialism, party members are more equal than actual workers, utter suppression of any dissident or even disagreements, always in a state of readiness for war, more shit i can't think of at the moment.

true

Economic planning is untenable, it's based on faulty anthropology and an unrealistic ethos, labor theory of value is the most retarded concept ever made, and the Pareto distribution

Because either,

A. It's tried out immediately following monarchies/totalitarian regimes/dictatorships such as Russia or Cuba and the people only know what it feels like to be subjegated, so they allow a cult-of-personality to rule them and delude themselves into thinking it is communism

or

B. Because communism only works in a total homogeneous society, and the minute someone looks different, talks different, acts different, or thinks different the entire thing either falls apart slowly and painfully, or turns into a totalitarian regime in order to keep homogeneity

Ayo hol up!
Am I the only one here who hunts all their own meat and has a subsistence garden that grows at least 40% of my produce/spices? I don't even live in rural area! Get on that shit!

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This too, communism is a dream for the stupid who don't understand even the basics of Machiavelli, Locke, Nietzsche, Sun Tzu, or any philosopher that people actually respect

Because they are just shortcuts to plutocracies, oligarchies and de facto corporatocracy. It's a distinction without a difference. Made all the more amusing those who spend all their time obsessively accusing everyone else of being communists for wanting regulated markets and/or a social support economic backbone are too stupid to realize they are just de facto commies since their brainwashed advocation of free for all laissez faire clusterfuck just devolves into a de facto commie state as the inherent corruption that takes over in an unregulated market becomes an oligarchy. You just keep cucking for Trump and wait for the trickle down though. You're so 'redpilled' because da joos, memes, and pizza pedos.