Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
and we certainly proved throughout history that communists know well what social need is.
Alexander Butler
Why would you say that comrade?
Jordan Gray
Fuckk off
Brandon Cook
well, that's what you're trying to achieve, I just wished you luck :^)
Luke Russell
A bourgeois photosynthetic organ.
Eli Watson
That makes no sense, Stalin ended the famines in Russia and North Korea was juche ideology by the 90s if you are going to call that communist.
Austin Collins
not getting into arguments and insulting, what are you doing in this thread though? You can't convince him of your viewpoint if you don't argue
Anthony James
wtf i love gobunism now
wasting time
Adam Allen
rofl
Aiden King
I see you are in a great mood comrade, did you start reading Marx?
Levi Adams
Self-serving resources much?
Christopher Anderson
why do you keep posting this thread you fucking faggot nobody is going to subscribe to your retarded ideology so stop larping as an ebin revolutionary and go back to /leftypol/
have to show you commie cucks you don't belong here
Jack Gonzalez
Shadilay
Lincoln Myers
No one here is stupid enough, move on to reddit
Jose Young
That is one of my favorite images
Jose Myers
We found him space jew
Ayden Reed
>implying Sup Forums doesn't acknowledge white cucks and betas.
Jacob Lee
fuck off neocon
Chase Foster
oh wow a jewish US foreign secretary shaking hands with a foreign leader that really showed me how about you make an argument next time
Ryder Ortiz
>neocon blue spotted
Mason Allen
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Dominic Rogers
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Nathan Gray
DONT USE ANIME FOR FUCKING COMMIE SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Gavin Scott
where's the spurdo gommunist poster when you need him
Andrew White
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Ryan Young
Are you still sore about your side getting BTFO during the Spanish Civil war?
Jackson Perry
Can one of you Reddit shills enlighten me as to how communism could ever work considering there would need to be a system of power in place to distribute goods and food etc? Said system of power would eventually be corrupted and allow for things like the ussr.
Andrew Hernandez
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Sebastian Morris
Don't use anime for fascist shit then faggot
Carson White
They're free to interpret the anyway they want to REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I don't like jews either buddy doesn't mean you have to kill them on site , unlike communist countries who killed millions of people for having a fucking religion i'm fine with them just leaving my country i'm not a genocidal maniac like all commie leaders
Charles Powell
Using an automated systems that like the OGAS project or cybersyn, with the most secure systems invented in place to protect it.
"Glushkov’s idea was to inaugurate an era of electronic socialism. He named the colossally ambitious project the All-State Automated System(OGAS). It sought to streamline and technologically upgrade the entire planned economy. This system would still make economic decisions by state plans, not market prices, but sped up by computer modelling to predict equilibria before they happen. Glushkov wanted smarter and faster decision-making, and maybe even electronic currency. All he needed was the Politburo’s purse."
Camden Williams
Did I say anything about killing jews? just pointing out that the jew haters here should know the good relation of Pinochet with jews.
Aiden Cruz
>blue I don't get it?
Joshua Brown
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Logan Long
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Benjamin Ramirez
>i'm not a genocidal maniac like all commie leaders
can you supply 100% of the workforce with service jobs? no you cant.
Oliver Davis
>ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism
and this is where everything went downhill
one pillar of the ML IDEOLOGY is that the driving force behind the transformation of society is the Party. This is what has driven the world throughout the 20th century and the controversy between rightwingers and leftwingers. And unless you break free from ideology and start examining the actual philosophical theory of HISTORICAL MATERIALISM (the one that Marx set in motion) in the here and now, the proletariat will never break free from ideology and consequently, from its dependence on the system.
Aaron Price
FUGGING GAPPIDALISTS!!!!! :------DDDDDD
Easton Brown
SEND DA GULAKS TO DA GULAGS :DDDD
Sebastian James
Seriously, im sick and tired of your wop ass posting on this board. If you want to convert people to communism, than this isnt the way to do it. Do it subtly if your trying to do it, i dont care but i dont want to see this stupid thread anymore.
Ethan Bailey
oh i am so very sorry for my mistake it wasn't 54 million in the USSR and 50 million in china , it instead was 65 million in china and 20 million in russia that changes everything totally not a genocide
Camden Gonzalez
>population rises >demand for services increases >more service jobs
For real though, saying we need communism to prevent technological innovation is just stupid.
Hudson Torres
scientific accuracy is required. well we'll see how it turns out, currently we have the problem than more people who used to work in traditional industries are getting unemployed.
Kayden Garcia
I am not sure if you realise that the image you posted is an accurate one, critiquing the Soviet Line/stalinism from a left standpoint.
Jack Lee
>technological innovation reduces need for labor >number of jobs keeps decreasing >wages keep plummeting >profits are dropping >jobs aren't getting any easier or more fulfilling >implying this is sustainable ???
Liam Young
Oh, this is mostly a containment board for r/T_D cretins that think Sup Forums is their fucking echo chamber.
I freely discuss communism pretty much everywhere. Student debt and housing market threads are choice.
Xavier Jackson
>This is an alt right board no it isn't
Henry Morgan
NOD REALG GOMMUNISM!!!!! XDDDDDDD
Jayden Rodriguez
Antifa is training with weapons and military tactics. We will kill you all.
Kayden Ross
Alt Right is Closet Left, Richard Spencer is in favour of universal healthcare, and is pretty much a NazBol.
Nathan Smith
You're antifa and you're coming after us? Wot?
Jayden Hall
Posting a cuckunist thread in the format of actual successful threads and calling it a "general" thread, when in reality it's the same 1 guy getting blown the fuck out repeatedly and saged. Get this whack shit out of here, you communist faggot.
Xavier Clark
At least commie posting wasn't so fucking bad that Sup Forums wanted to merge with /mlp/ to avoid it, r/The_Cuckold.
Nathaniel Kelly
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Caleb Sanchez
>give me your redpills /leftypol/ Specifically, the work you do is always worth more than what you are paid, because the capitalist can sell whatever it is you produce for more than you were paid in wages. The productive forces of our society are controlled by a tiny elite instead of by the people, so what ends up happening is that millions of proles sweat their lives away while the porky bastards windsurf in Hawaii. To put it in terms you might be more familiar with, capitalists are the ultimate welfare queens. >my stance on hatred of jews and niggers will never change. To say that your position on any topic will never change is to declare yourself to be beyond reason. That said, those "jews" and "evil niggers" are your natural allies regardless of what you think about them, because they are being exploited just like you are. The leftist position on racism is as much about pragmatism as it is about a commitment to equality.
The basic gist is that capitalism is inherintly broken. Companies want to make as much money as possible which means paying works the smallest amount possible. Eventually workers can't afford to buy things, meaning the whole system collapses. Currently with automation we are going to see a huge loss of jobs that will make the concept of full employment obsolete - so who is going to buy things? Communism isn't some grand fucking conspiracy about race or western civilization - its just a question of economics.
Caleb Nguyen
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Cooper Jones
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, are you defending the communist and calling me Le donald, or are you just a fucking leaf and can't help but sound retarded all of the time?
John Powell
It's alright, I'm just playing 69D Settlers of Catan
Chase Hernandez
top kek you seem really angry
Henry Hernandez
K. Keep me posted.
Robert Garcia
>Molymeme
Jonathan Torres
>cuckynist
Easton Baker
do you understand what you posted? because it's wrong. The user is question discusses communism as a formula, as a model to be implemented. Nobody really understands that what Marx was saying and all communists/anarchists/progressives should have in mind first and foremost, is that communism is a HISTORICAL RESULT, if we follow historical materialism's logical conclusions. That said, a theory is never set in stone, otherwise it becomes ideology, dogma. You forego a lot of historical conditions and circumstances which lead to what you now so vehemently disregard as "communism". You are a simpleton, able to reply only with screencaps. I wish that you someday begin on the arduous journey of learning.
Those aren't propaganda numbers. The USSR government took great pains to suppress documents that enumerate several hundred thousand people Stalin killed. Even doubling that number if you consider it too low yields less than two million people executed in the great purge.
