When someone says north korea is communist

>when someone says north korea is communist

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>Starving.
>Dictatorship.
>Emphasises nuclear weapons as their entire non-communist foreign policy.
>One part of a larger country that existed before rebellion.
>Poor.
It checks out mate.

Starvation and not a single death from diabetis besides the great leader are a 99.9999 confiable indicators the nation is communist.

>all dictatorships are communist
kek
>Emphasises nuclear weapons
self-defense

DPRK is ultraconservative and ultranationalist. communism is against nationalism.

Juche is a variant of Marxism-Leninism with a similar idealistic endgoal

>These outcomes line up with my presupposed meme outcomes of communism, therefore it is true communism in action

N O T
O
T

You are fucking retarded

No it isn't. Should do some reading before you post shit.

North Korea is not Communist anymore. Kim-il Sung himself said he didn’t want a “reformation” of (((Marxism)))-Leninism with Juche, but a complete departure from it – criticizing the fact that the Commies and nationalists of the 1920s were “divorced from the masses.”

Juche is basically national socialism for Koreans. It emphasizes the importance of race, self-determination, etc. Just like Nazi Germany.

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>similar idealistic endgoal
KEK
No
Nice argument
this

Juche communism is still communism faggot

juche isnt communist

>maybe if I shitpost my dumb commie shit people will believe in it
I don't need to make an argument, only sub 80 niggers and estrogen filled fags fall for cummunism. This is why white working class hates your guts. Even cummie kikes figured that out why can't you?

juche communism doesn't exist because juche isn't communist
>y-you're a communist!
no i'm not, and neither is the DPRK

You should do some reading for once, Ill even provide you with a source.

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Juche is national socialism

I didn't say the word communism, you did

Juche is a variant of Marxism-Leninism since that is where it's ideological roots originated

DPRK's connection with national socialism would be autarky

>when some inbred retards say best korea isn't communist

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You should give up

why?

>muh it was not real communism
It is tho

>wahhh its my special snowflake brand of communism

it wasn't communism at all

>if I say its not communism but do it anyways, it's not communism

>its only communism when we say it is!
>look, we gave it a new name so its not communism

>but do it anyways
what?
its not just in names, but in action. communism is anti-nationalist and globalist, dprk is ultranationalist.

UMM WULL ACKTHSHULLY
This suicidal autocracy born from a defunct economic ideology doesn't TECHNICALLY adhere to every tenet of said defunct economic ideology so it's not really just a shitty idea that doesn't work and we need to somehow magically adopt it globally right now in the next thirty seconds or I'm literally going to pee my pants and scream at you about it.
me smarte :v)
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Large scale communism is an unattainable goal and North Korea is the umpteenth time that someone has tried to achieve it. It will fail like all other attempts and retarded future Marxists and college teenagers who just want all the free gibs will cry that it is not a true example of communism while simultaneously dawning themselves in the symbols of that nation and other "not real communist" states.

>when someone says any attempt at communism won't end in dystopic dictatorship,and blames any collapse and failure on external forces and internal "revisionism" and not the aggressive and provocative nature of the ideology itself.

Literally every western communist.

figures a leaf can't understand.

Its communism. Doesn't matter what they call it. The means of production is owned by the State. Everyone lives under the State. The State dictates your daily actions.

>americans being retarded again
communism is anti-nationalist and globalist, dprk is ultranationalist.

>communism is anti-nationalist

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Your naive ideology can't exist in the real world. Everything is nationalist.

Fuck off retard. Go read marx's surplus value theory first. The government controls the entire economy and the means of production, sets the price and controls every aspect of the population's lives. How is it not communism you sewage spewing leaf faggot.

It is communist.

Tell me when Marx said he wanted government controlling anything you brainwashed retard

>"We're going to kill every and imprison capitalist and uproot every foreign interest in our nation."
>Is horribly surprised when they are screwed with and invaded by more established powers.
>"We're also going to plan all production to meet the needs of humans like Marx tells us - which have no discernible default nature to plan from according to Marx."
>Is surprised at massive shortfalls and widespread starvation.

At which point they become "Not really Communist."

>when you realize how gullible Sup Forums really is
because north korea is state capitalist

>go read marx
No thanks kike.
>fascism can't exist in the real word
Hello (((JIDF)))

muh cold war waaaah

>It's muh own brand of communism
>trust me citizen, it's National Socials just with all out communist aethetic and symbolism
>we also put anyone who insults our deer leaders autism into our own type of gula... concentration camp.
Fuck off commie sympathizers.

Did Marx ever describe how he would organize a state?

>let's try communism
>it fails
>it wasn't REAL communism
Beta males of the world unite!

>It's muh own brand of communism
no its NOT COMMUNISM
retarded latvian

Is it a coincidence when every time self-professed communists gain control in a country it turns into a brutal dictatorship? Is the problem with the ideology of communism or the people the ideology attracts?

>when someone is so enamored with a terrible ideology they get butthurt about anything that could be associated with it.

your hag mother turns tricks for nickles
does that make her an estate capitalist?

Dictatorship of the proletariat.

The Soviet Union wasn't really communist under Stalin either since it was nationalist (especially during the Great Patriotic War), wanted to consolidate power to the state which was ruled in a totalitarian fashion

Just like the DPRK, Soviet Union wasn't communist under Stalin either

they see le epic pleb revolution as a means to either put their stupid assed shower thoughts in motion or declare themselves War God Kingshit the First
it has never not been run as a screen and probably never will

>stalin
>nationalist

Great now tell us how Romania ceased being real communists at the first sign of problems, too.

Communism has never been tried!

I never said anything about Romania kek
It has and it has failed every time

The people. The ideology is unnatural and can never work, but that doesn't mean it's bad, ya know?

Well Stalin called it "revolutionary patriotism"

Patriotism is not nationalism

Do you leaf even know wtf Soviet Nationalism even means?
Totalitarian commies destroy their old culture and replace it with (((workers))) culture, which is basically nationalism to the Soviet and the Union.

North Korea is just that, they destroyed everything of what was old Korea with it's heroes and replaced it with Ultra cult of personality of their deer leaders.
Fuck Kim Il-sung literally personified himself as korean jesus and koreans still fucking believe it.

They don't even have any memorials to Admiral Yi Sun-sin god dammit, just one shitty medal.

yes

nah it's fucking stupid

>Patriotism is not nationalism
It's a large component, hard to create a nationalist state devoid of patriotism

>rth Korea is just that, they destroyed everything of what was old Korea
They maintain lots of their old culture, mount paektu, traditional food, language, clothing
>koreans still fucking believe it.
they don't.
>destroy their old culture and replace it with (((workers))) culture
that's not nationalism

Oh so you're not a communist, you're one of those natsocs who wants to rehabilitate the dprk now that its about to be destroyed. You are either a shill or a masochist.

They are Communists, don't believe DFP and IWMP they have bought the shilling line entirely.

Russia is currently shilling to natsoc plebs for North Korea for the purpose of stirring up shit.

Whether they are nationalist or not, or have a central bank or not, they are a failed state who tried to achieve Communism - therefore they are Communists - not natsocs.

You're just reinforcing the Communist's arguments that yet another bogeyman regime "wasn't really communist".

>from each according to whatever minimal effort ends up producing
>to each according to limitless desire

>Whether they are nationalist or not, or have a central bank or not,
All kims were nationalist. Communism is anti-nationalist. they always intended to be nationalist. therefore they never tried to create Marxist communism

Tell that to Stalin era Soviet Union and the GDR.
Hell, Hitlers NSDAP was ultra-nationalist, ultra-ethnocentric meta commies.
It fucking has "socialist" and "workers" in its fucking name ffs.

>that's not nationalism
WELL GEE FUCK
Today i discovered from a chink leaf that volkish and National Socialist Workers' Party isn't real nationalism.
Fucking kys.

ugh
it's like more equal and stuff dude, gosh.
u jus done geddit

>It's a "communism demands perfect adherence to original marxist impossible pipe dreams to be Real Communism™" thread

This is semantics, a loose quote and post-war behavior don't matter, they started out as internationalists and devolved to their current state.

Korea's genetic lineage history does not change this.

Communism can never fail, it can only be failed

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It used a centrally planned economy designed to work on behalf of the working class. It was held up as a shining beacon of communism in the 60's.

The only reason it isn't "real communism" is because "real communism" can't exist, but it tried to become communism.

OP is right. All the people in this thread can do is spew fallacies and ignorant or intellectually dishonest statements that they learned from dumb people like Steven Crowder. Really sad.

really made my dink.

and only failures seem to like it...
hmmm.......

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Hi /leftypol/
Nice raid.
You're making yourselves look stupid. Especially when you goose step around announcing a victory you haven't obtained.

>It fucking has "socialist" and "workers" in its fucking name ffs.
you modern germans need to be nuked
oh yeah the NSDAP destroyed german culture and replaced it with their own too? kill yourself retarded slav subhuman
>they started out as internationalists
kim il-sung was always a nationalist...
i'm far right. you are a retarded redditor that probably still supports the Zionist puppet trump

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OP is wrong when they say Juche is not a variation of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology it originated from

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I'm not even a Marxist but this is just sad. Thanks for proving my point.

Communism isn't communism.

Prove me wrong I bet you can't.

>it's a /leftypol/ roleplays as a libertarian or whatever THEY think far right means (only when it suits him) and makes him and his communist idea look like shit that has to be lied about for it to have any sway in the minds of people who are on-the-fence which there are probably none on the fence between communism and practicality

no teeth nancy

It's not a fallacy to call someone by his preferred title. Including yourself.
I'd like to say welcome aboard, newfag, but you're just plain obnoxious. You specifically.

>I'm totally one of u and communism is great and people who are against /leftypol/ ""raiding"" your board are intolerant idiots!!!

Real Communism has never been truly attempted, all attempts were deviations with flaws which is why they never took root

>libertarian
i'm a national socialist
You are the only one that needs to get out you autistic redditor

what would you think if i told you the kims are all secretly mormons?

and they get really really into it

i'm dennis rodman

>everyone I don't like is a shill!!1!

This is so sad.

Karl Marx was a myopic neet who had nothing valuable to offer intellectually.

Communism is against Nationalism ? How they fuck can you convince a nation to forgo the profit incentive if not with nationalism ?

The root word of communism is literally common.
Common goals and a common purpose is really what nationalism is about.

Don't get me wrong, you can be nationalistic and still believe in individual freedoms and a free market economy, but it doesn't work the other way around.

This. It's absolutely amazing to watch them come in here and act EXACTLY as the caricatures they're painted to be:

>not REAL communism!
>strawman
>fuck Blampf!

I'm most sure who is trolling who anymore. The things the lefties say are so staggeringly stupid and lacking in self awareness that I wonder if they aren't actually normal Sup Forums users ascending to next-level trolling. Regardless if it's actually a troll or an actual leftard, it makes lefties looks even dumber.

>when someone defends NK
>when someone defends Assad
>when someone irrationally hates Israel

Why are they so old? Does North Korea not make new people?

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Whatever YOU think is "far right", /leftypol/.
>ur a redditor
We appreciate you guys helping with the push to shame Redditors in all forms, but I don't get it.
It only helps us if Redditors leave. Why would you damage your own incursions like that? After all, 90% of /leftypol/ are Redditor refugees Hotwheels invited over the cripplechan.

How does it feel to be absolutely cucked like that? Not to mention you're having to flee that shitty board to here.
Sad.
Absolutely sad.

>/leftypol/
>shills
You're not subtle to deserve that title. Neither do you get paid.

They have no self awareness and want the natives here to adopt that lack of self awareness and LARP as commies instead of nazis.
It's really fucking sad.

No they infused it with workers culture by saying volk and arbeiten(workers) are inseparable.

If I don't pretend to like Google doodles and Kendrick Lamar people will unfriend me on Myspace :(((((

>Kim Il-sung was always a nationalist...

Sure he was, and we were always at war with Eurasia, or was it East-Asia?

Why would Soviet Russia and Communist China support a nationalist movement?

Juche was not the idea from the outset, it is literal revisionism by the Kim dynasty to preserve and rationalize their power.

They are a failed state of communists that resorted to nationalism to preserve power.