Why are you opposed to free trade?

I can understand not wanting unlimited immigration or open borders, but what's wrong with free trade? It allows different countries or companies to maximize their available utility and enables people in lower and higher-income countries to have higher jobs by providing low-skill work in manufacturing and certain services in poorer countries while allowing for more specialized high-skill jobs in high-income countries.
It also means that we get things like cheaper (certain) food products, electronics, etc.

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Nobody has a problem with fair trade between civilized countries. We have a problem with being forced to compete with billions of scumbag non-whites that will work for $2 an hour.

Lohan was actually hot as hell before she became a coked up whore.

No one should trade freely.

> but what's wrong with free trade

Are you implicating that America actually has free trade?

Letting the Chinese fuck you in the ass isn't free trade

I mean America did exactly what you described and it has devastated your country. 70,000 factories left the USA in my lifetime, you added $15t to your debt, your suicide/drug rates have skyrocketed, and your white birthrates have collapsed to such a point that now 5/8 American babies are born to non-Europeans.

Oh and the average working family hasn't had a raise in 30 years. Before we let non-whites into our club you could raise a family on one income. That was before the transistor. Imagine what we could do now.

Pointless to explain, you're off making another thread to shit up this board. People who want interaction do more than make one or two posts.

When you have a Democratic Welfare State... Listen, when you're giving people a vote in your society, and they're able to vote for less freedom and more welfare (for them)... You're telling people to come to your home, eat all your food, and enslave you.

Literally, we have a system where people can vote for you to be a slave and you think we don't need a border?

In the Libertarian Americas that were originally established, free trade is not a problem. But that system gave way for a welfare state to be voted in. And our freedoms are getting voted out.

There are great leaders who are literally telling their followers to go to america and that they'll eventually be able to outbreed americans and enact sharia law, through the systems that we've opened for them to do it!

And you honestly think we don't need some sort of protection against it?

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Here comes another stormfag to ruin the day. Stop advertising your shitty socialist ideology. You lost the war for a reason.

YOU lost the war for a reason. Go get run over by a bus, limey cunt.

>You lost the war for a reason.
(((reason)))

Also NatSoc isn't socialist. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany

Ok, here you go.
I literally said I can understand why you wouldn't want open borders and unlimited immigration and talked about free trade without assuming those, can you fucking read?
We have asymmetric trade with them though, they only have unidirectional free trade with most countries and don't import very much relative to what they export.
No but there are degrees of free trade, the US has much more free trade or trade openness than many countries, as does the EU.
But like I said, those low-wage people allow for more high-skill job specialization in high-income countries, making people better off on the whole.

Why are they so fat?

I actually love free trade. Fucking protectionist and corporate fags can kill themselves.

When you're talking about free trade, you are talking about immigration, as well. You're one of dem niggas whomst've thinketh slavery ain't a thing anymore, huh? There's more slavery today than ever before. PEOPLE are not THINGS but they're included when you're talking about global trade. Regulating what comes into your country is regulating what comes into your country, whether it be goods, services, or people. Free trade=free immigration.

Last time I checked, the Allies won the war and not the Axis.

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Europe lost.

1776, 1812, WWI and WWII... There's no ALLIES between you and I. There's just (((cucked))) and AMERICAN.

We fell for your (((tricks))) in WWI and WWII but we're game to it now. memetics is now mainstream. You can keep Britain and Europe, like you always have, but AMERICA IS FREE.

>Natsoc isn't socialist.

Learn to fucking read.

how about you read the rest of it? obviously hitler's definition of socialism is one with private property, i.e. a form of capitalism

Because it's never free. It's always free on one side and protectionist on other, you can't expect countries to play by the rules if it's an advantage not to. Also, every single country that industrialized used protectionist policies and free-trade policy in the West coincides with deindustrialization.

> "associating ethnic Jews with both communism ("Jewish Bolsheviks") and capitalism, both of which he OPPOSED."

I think you still need to read the article.

There's a fairly simple distinction between National Socialism and Socialism/Communism.

And that's the national part. Hitler replaced the (((currency))) with a national currency. He completely isolated his economy, which was mostly capitalist. Completely ending free trade and instituting a nationalist fair trade policy, he turned his nation from a civilization of ruins into an economic powerhouse by breaking free of the (((banks))) and exiting the international (((financial))) community.

The opposition to communism isn't the community part.

>but what's wrong with free trade

because when everyone has to compete with China's 1.3 Billion population, the average wage of the world goes to China's average of $1.50 an hour

Do you want $1.50 an hour?

Why are retards standing outside of McDonalds begging for $15 an hour?

It's because we don't have free trade.

Capitalism, in that context, means free trade. Hitler wanted autarky. It also says in the article that Hitler said "I absolutely insist on protecting private property... we must encourage private initiative".

No, not wanting to live with shitskins has nothing to do with rejection of free trade. Just because you don't want to live with poo people does not mean you don't want to trade with them, FROM A DISTANCE.

"Free trade" is just a ploy to deindustrialize and destroy white economies and make them dependent on third world labour
Same for so-called "ecology"

>No, not wanting to live with shitskins has nothing to do with rejection of free trade
Yeah, how else are corporations gonna use social dumping by bringing in millions of third worlders to drive wages down
It has everything to do with free trade

No that's where your wrong, free trade does not mean "anything goes" free trade means any voluntary transaction is fine, if you do not want to import niggers or boycott nigger products you can do that. Infact you can politisize your boycott and get others on board too.

Then why does China want to increase its amount of free trade volume and agreements internationally while at the same time not wanting to bring in shit tons of non-ethnic Chinese untermenschen into their country?

Also might I add without a minimum wage there's no incentive to import low skill niggers when you can hire low skilled whites that are local.

Free trade doesn't need treaties and international enforcement ...

What you are talking about is """free trade""", which is simply a step towards the reinstitution of feudalism. They con states into debt after which """free trade""" makes it impossible to use taxation to get out of it again.

Every nation should be free to trade however it wants. That's free trade. Also no debt or ownership should cross borders with any kind of international protection, sovereignty should be absolute.

Probs was a victim to hollywood pedos when she was young. Look at Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Jonathan Brandis, Drew Barrymore, Amanda Bynes etc etc. Lindsay just hasn't offed herself yet.

Why would anybody want to emigrate to a low wage country with a very difficult language to learn?

There do need to be treaties though, countries need to know that their products won't be crazily tariffed or unfairly priced, etc. in another country or it would make them much less likely to engage in trade with another country if they weren't sure the country would price the country according to pre-defined rules and violate the rules at the risk of legal recourse.
China's still more developed than many other countries, many Bangladeshis and Pakastanis would probably move there in a heartbeat if given the chance and yet the Chinese would tell them to fuck off.

I'm not opposed to free trade, but if the pool of talent/employees gets larger and larger, that means there's more supply of workers, which tends to make wages go down, unless there's greater demand for workers. It's a pretty shitty deal, unless you have enough capital to afford to purchase labor. Then it's great.

If you're a worker, though, I can't see much benefit, and the more globalization increases the harder it becomes to command a livable wage. On the other hand, that increase efficiency is creating wealth in the form of cheaper objects. So it's a hard call.

better than dying in war

I thought the refugees were fleeing war, not high wages and social welfare

Are you saying the EU is lying to me?

There is no reason at all why giving the people the ability to purchased goods and services produced in other countries means that you must also allow unlimited immigration.

I'm not opposed to free trade, I'm opposed to the rest of the world taking advantage of my country resulting in a net loss of wealth.

The US has easily the most heavily govt. subsidised primary industries in the world.
Expecting the rest of us to compete on a an even playing field while your farmers literally get paid gibs by the govt. to make their shit isn't a "free trade".

How exactly does free trade result in a loss of wealth? We get products more cheaply and so do other countries and the volume of trade increases? How do we, really how does anybody, in terms of just countries, lose?

The US doesn't even particularly heavily subsidize agriculture compared to many countries.

Free trade requires free movement or massive wealth confiscation and transfer. Sure, specialization is a thing, but there are tons of Americans who aren't cut out for highly specialized work that really sets this country apart (in terms of production capacity) from many other countries that can only compete on labor price. They have to either move to those third world countries so that they can support themselves at the market-determined wage for their work or there needs to be a massive wealth transfer from those specialized workers to the others (at which point, are they really being fairly compensated for the talent and training that allowed them to do that image first place?).

Neither are appealing.

You could've at least found some more current data...
Note that I did say
>primary industries
not just farmers. Some of us produce a bit more than pig shit and hamburgers....

t. uneducated leaf who wants a $10/hour job lol

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>How exactly does free trade result in a loss of wealth? We get products more cheaply and so do other countries and the volume of trade increases? How do we, really how does anybody, in terms of just countries, lose?

Because the wealthy countries lose tons of jobs and then they are no longer wealthy. It creates a race to the bottom where wages plummet and the people who benefit are the small amount of people who own companies. This guts the middle class in the wealthy country.

It's bad news you dumb fuckhole.

She's definitely a victim. Her pattern behavior is textbook. It's a shame the media was able to spin her into a sex icon. I can't imagine how much torment that caused her. Pray for Lindsay.

Free trade allows the sale of false idols that degrade a strong cultural empire who's customs and morals forged reliable trading partners. There should be no mosque in the north. No church in the east. No temple in the west. And no totem poles outside the americas. Cultural meaning loses its value and becomes nihilistic with open borders. Values worth fighting and dying for

Absolutely. MK victim.