>be gay and XXY (Klinefelters)
>wide feminine hips, high estrogen, little to no facial hair, youthful appearance
>attracted to men
>according to alt-right neckbeards I am "male" just because I have a Y chromosome
Umm... no sweetie. My penis has its own voice
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lol sorry bro, no matter how feminine you are...you're still a faggot loser
true story ancient cave paintings have depicted women with oblong rocks tied to their junk and men with holes bored in their scrotum and maggots falling out
Sexuality is a spectrum sure, but there are only two genders.
Anything else is sheer cockwobble.
Canada is what you'd get if Australia raped Sweden at a party.
you're actually a deformed freak who should be euthanized
This is an apt analogy
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>Klinefelters
You are an incredibly rare genetic anomaly. Less than 1% of 1% of the population is in your boat.
You are genetically male and there is no avoiding that. Your gender is male.
Consider your sexuality however you like/want to rationalize but you can't just shuffle around definitions to make things convenient for you.
sexuality is a spectrum, of course. you can be attracted to anything. gender and sex are not, except for very very few medical exceptions, of which klinefelter's is maybe one
False argument. People don't usually consider genetically deformed freaks. All rules off for the abnormalities of nature. Actually, just feel sorry for them.
Fine, you aren't a man or a women. I'll give you that if you agree to sexually identify as either a mutant or a genetic glitch. Is your disability fatal without treatment? No? Why are you being a selfish pussy. A less than 3% genetic minority shouldn't mean shit to anyone if it's not a health risk. You people are so entitled.
There are no medical exceptions; if you have a y chromosome you are a male.
There are cases where a male can develop a female body prenatally because of a chromosome condition, but in these cases they are always sterile, so at the very least you have to admit you cannot have a viable female with a y chromosome.
this. people find any reason to feel like the center of the world
Pretty much this.
if you are phenotypically female (sterile or not), I would call you a female if you walked down the street, and i'd be right to. there are exceptions where gonads are obscure and do not fit into male/female. we're talking about what to treat people in society, not whether they have a y chromosome, you need to actively test that, you fucking moron
fuck off leaf
is shareblue now international?
You literally cannot argue that an individual with a y chromosome is a female.
If you want to treat them like one sure, who gives a shit, but they're not biologically female.
kill yourself
you are male but a beta male,you are that low test you tihnk you are a woman
are you this special? there are 10000s of people alive today who look like females, who have a y chromosome, but do not know they have a y chromosome. if we're talking about how we should act in a society, how can we treat said people as "biologically male" if they don't know they're biologically male? do you get my point now?
No I don't get your point, because you're not making one.
>if we're talking about how we should act in a society, how can we treat said people as "biologically male" if they don't know they're biologically male?
go ahead and answer that then
>XXY
>anything else than a genetic fuckup
OP is a cum guzzling faggot, more news at 11
We're not talking about how to act in society though you stupid shithead
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we aren't? I am...everyone else on this thread is, what are you talking about instead? An autistic view of whether someone with a y chromosome is biologically male? of course they are. My point is that's not a useful distinction to make when we are talking about what sex to ascribe an individual when we encounter them in society, because we don't know their genetic makeup, we only know they're appearance.
I have no doubt they would know themselves if there was a genetic abnormality. These cases are indeed something special. In these cases you're right, and they should be treated as a female.
But this is almost a non-factor when you count the millions of people muddying the waters with their gender identities.
You're a fucking freak kys
Time for a safe break lads. Saged
>genetic disorder
agreed, it's a rare exception was my initial point
Lol you are one dense britcuck
You're not a woman you are a man with a very rare genetic disorder. And also this is bait, a gay person with klinefers would be extremely rare.
Sexuality is a spectrum. You're at the faggot end of it. "Gender" is a pretty clearcut either/or though.
M2 (MD in training year 2) here:
Sex is a binary in humans, with abnormalities such as XXY and XO being non-viable in the vast majority of cases. As in they are often sterile.
Gender is directly tied to sex, the hormones testosterone and estrogen to name 2 (there are about a dozen others) directly correlate with sex, and given the nature of genetic transcription and translation differs between sexes in a way that directly links to gender, the two cannot be isolated.
Sexuality is fluid, it appears there are a large number of factors that tie into this aspect of consciousness. Some docs even go as far as to say being able to discern an attractive member of ones own sex from an ugly one would imply some shift away from absolute 0 / 100 on a sexuality scale.
you're male, faggot. Hormones =/= sex. If you have a Y chromosome, you're a guy
>any theory that only can be applied to 99.5% instead of 100% of the observations is utter and complete trash
>ONE anomaly
>out of thousands of people stuffing their body with chemicals that turn them into abominations even though they were normal
>it means all the normal people were allowed to do that
letting somebody with gender dysphoria maim his body and turn into a freak is just like telling a depressed guy "Well go ahead and kill yourself, that's what you desire, go for it!"
>Some docs even go as far as to say being able to discern an attractive member of ones own sex from an ugly one would imply some shift away from absolute 0 / 100 on a sexuality scale.
No they don't. No doctor would say such a moronic thing.
>be a delusional genetic freak
No OP, exceptions aren't the rule they merely prove it.
Yes, they would. "Doctor" doesn't really come with a common belief. I have some pro-choice teachers, some pro-life clerkship heads. Some think sexuality is a binary with deviations being an abnormality, others think that it's ~70-30 nurture / nature. I had a psych clerkship where the guy was super into Kinsey, hence that claim.
Stop digging. I'm a doctor. It's a moronic thing to say and I'm 99% sure you're shilling.
What's your specialty? I'm not kidding in the slightest. We're prepping for STEP1 right now.
there are plenty of people who passed their doctor's degree but are weirdos with weird opinions.
Even if their opinion goes against their studies, they just passed their years by repeating their lessons and working hard.
Then they can say all the dumb shit they want without having it interfere with their work, and people give credit to what they say since they're a doctor.
you are. doctor's don't have deep conversations about the nature of sexuality except maybe psychiatrists, and you claim to have had dozens of chats with a variety of them about this 1 subject, and are only in your 2nd year. shillo
BOY = penis
GIRLS = vagina
Did you not meet with teachers during your years? Also we did subject based, not systems. Every section had a link to every subject. Lol. Didn't answer my question, what's your specialty?
"meet with teachers" and discuss the nature of sexuality? no, buddy, that was just you.
Ever heard of John Money?
K now I know you're trolling. Dodged the question 3 times.
And yes, we have a histology teacher who does his research on sexuality, an anatomy professor who had to teach us about anatomical malformations involving the genitalia and the hormone balances associated with development. We also have a research interest group that has done a section on gender studies. So yes, we talked about it...
what does a cadaver smell like?
If you have a Y chromosome you're a male. If you have anything other than XY or XX you're a mutant, and not in the xmen way
You mean the formaldehyde? Lol. Dodged the question again!
hmm indeed it does. i didn't answer as i have not specialised
kek
You needed to select your specialty for residency placement. Meaning you'd be in the process of becoming specialized if you have the title of MD...
look at my flag old buddy
If you have klinefelters than you're incapable of having children and don't even matter. Noone cares what you do.
Bongs do residency as well... Unless you're implying you're in FY still...
But these genetic abnormalities are not transgender.
They are hermaphrodites/intersex.
That is a biological condition that can be medically tested and scientifically validated, not a 'feeling'.
Here's your spectrum:
You're into the opposite sex
You're into the same sex
You're into both.
Furthermore, the """gender""" spectrum:
Y-Chromosome, Dick and Balls: Male
No Y-Chromosome, Ovaries: Female
Barring one in a billion freak accidents, on of each category applies to you.
Also sage.
it's not "residency", i'm doing core medical training which isn't specialising, you specialise after 2 years of CMT, which is after FY, which is after graduating. We aren't "MDs" in the UK but you're called a "doctor" as soon as you graduate
Fuck off leaf
Fair enough. Learned something about bongland today.
A feminine man is still male
A masculine woman is still female
If you dispute this fact, you're being queerphobic by trying to dictate the gender of people who don't fit traditional gender expression
I know...I wasn't saying otherwise
hip pix?
>(((sweetie)))
Gas yourself
Your freaks of nature so insignificant in number that in a sane world (without jews) you would not get to corrupt words build around the biological reality of the overwhelming majority of humans.
>A fucking leaf
>Down syndrome is a fetish now
kek
Doesn't Klinefelters make you retarded? How is your experience relevant?
Politics is on a spectrum, most people are somewhat close to the center and people who are on the absolute extreme of any side are generally seen as crazy.
Personality is a spectrum whether it's thinking or feeling, introvert or extrovert it's very unlikely that someone would score 100% on either side often these people would have a mental disorder.
Now sexuality is a spectrum about 99.99% of people identify as being on one of the most extreme sides to the spectrum and this is seen as normal.
As far as the chromosome thing this explains it better than I could.
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why does this make so much sense?
Seemed to me he beat you in an argument. How can you lose a battle of words with a fag? Just bring up aids, works everytime.
Congratulations, you're a mutant.
Remember, with great power comes great responsibility.
Just file this crap under: feminists still trying to figure out humor.
Day of the rake soon remember don't respond to leaf posters
XXY= genetic retard
XXY chromosome people pride unite!
0.00001 of the population guys!
We're a spectrum now lmao.
every time
ain't nothin taboo about a sex stew....
you are a male...but you can have desires that sit somewhere on a spectrum between hetero and gay, sure.
Noice troie loif
>Y chromosome
>penis
>balls
You're still a male, just not a very good one
BRAAAAAAAAAAP
Sup Forums is just opinion of unqualified internet users who literally have no voice though. Obviously you know this, but raising awareness amongst their sea of hatred never hurts
Amount of genders=2
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if you were born with a dick you're a dude. You're gross, I'd hold my breath if I had to walk past you because I'm sure you smell like tranny shit.
how do you not know you have a penis?
> Alt-right neckbeards
According to Wikipedia, you're a male, OP.
Here, I made you a picture in 20 hours in Paint to explain what the spectrum really looks like.
Is sex the one that's determined by chromosomes, or is it gender?
> trick question, it's "whichever one a liberal wants it to be at any given moment"
So you're admitting you have a genetic disorder?
OP is a faggot leaf
i'm bi, just slightly, and i agree this needs to be purged with nuclear fire. sjws are a fucking menace. goddamn these kikes.
Put on a my little pony dress on jam a dragon dildo up you ass never speak of this again
brap posting is for fat girls retard
Please fag can you tell me how to get My internet qualifications?
Its not the chromosome that makes you male. Its the penis.