Why do ancap and natsoc get on so well around here? They are seemingly polar opposite ideologies

Why do ancap and natsoc get on so well around here? They are seemingly polar opposite ideologies.

Fascist Libertarian alliance. Enemy of enemy is my friend.

Isn't fascism and libertarianism completely incompatible? One is about a powerful state and the other is advocating for no state, right?

For me, a dirty ancap, it's the pragmatism and effectiveness of NatSoc that makes it necessary in the face of White genocide and international jewry.
Honestly, I think ancap would require a 120 average IQ to function in a practical, effective way. Morons can live under NatSoc and see immediate positive results.
>inb4 someone says muh NAP, I know, but if we get handcuffed by principles and ignore pragmatism, the juden win.

Some what but we have common enemies so we work together. A lot of an caps and libertarians are just undercover fascists too.

That's a good point about natsoc being better for the masses, I've heard it said that the end goal of natsoc should be an ancap society, but I'm not fully sold on it yet.

both of them are pro-white in the long run

Capialism is intrinsically globalist.

ill just leave this here

libertarians are useful idiots

Is there such a thing as Libertarian Nationalism?

Jewish capitalism is. Back when we had colonies globalization was fine. Now theyre colonizing us.

Because we are fundamentally both enlightened, since we do not play the left-right game that the masses and the ideologues do.

Because of the fb group ANCAPISTAN

Because neo-pol is cancer.

Ancaps want freedoms based on mutual respect.

Jews see people that respect them and see an opportunity to take advantage of it and build a system that will benefit only them.

Nazis are the only ones not cucked enough to call them out on it.

Colonization is only possible when two countries are worlds away in development, and only one is capitalist. Nowadays countries are much closer to being on equal footing.

The eternal Swede strikes once more.

i like the shitty ms paint version better but yeah, was looking for this and was not disappoint.

Common enemy, Aussie.

When liberals go away, (never, at least not naturally) we can start hating each other. But for now we just all hate commies and anarchists.

ur thinking of mercantilism.

which is basically China, now.

Gotta admire them in that way.

>remove the state so I can start my own

If we stayed in Africa and Asia we could have kept them down though.
Youre right, China is playing the west like fools.

problem is that the kikes didn't form the business cabal through fair competition - they used nepotism to get ahead, and used the state to strongarm the opposition out of doing the same with anti-discrimination laws.

This desu. In university classes it's easier and more acceptable to say I'm anarcho-capitalist or libertarian than it is to say I'm a fascist.

Little do they know I'm only an ancap to help do away with the (((Elite)))'s hold on power.

>Youre right, China is playing the west like fools.
more like we're playing ourselves for fools.

They just don't have idiots to cater to in their electorate. once they reach a level of decadence like us, it'll be interesting to see how they handle it.

They're just natsocs in denial really.

You can have a "strong white nation" to fight against the liberals and degeneracy but once they're all defeated the state going to abolish itself like the ancaps want. It'll stay Natsoc, for a very long time. The ancaps that throw themselves behind natsoc faggots are just useful idiots.

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>Asian Libertarian

What did he mean by this...?

oh i hadn't seen this, but its bretty good too

mind if i save this?

They'll get theirs when their men want to return home with their African wives

This shit sounds like communism in a mirror image.

>we need a violent revolution and then we can all just chill and be "free"

Here fampai

I'm kind of agree with it. I've been leaning more NatSoc since Antifa commies started chimping out.

yes, now get out

communists want to kill me for believing in capitalism
left "libertarians" want to kill me for being white

nazis (allegedly, probably not in practice unfortunately) don't give a shit as long as I don't mess with them

They have a sort of sane ideology but in the long run they will realize NATSCO is the only answer

Because in the end, all ideology is a moral facade for selfish goals.

That's not yellow skin that's quintessential skin.

The goals of both seem relatively similar, a capitalist society with conservative values, along with a darwinian society (One in which the strongest survive and the weak die out or are used).

They just differ on how to reach these ends and on size of government.

Of course there's a lot more to it than that, but that is my general sense.

>in my country we have problem

Not to dogmatic lolbertarians.

It's really not hard to incorporate though. I mean we could all just go libertarian/fascism lite?

Don't talk about my secret club.

throw the jew down the well!

I think the main issue libertarians have with Nationalism is the role of the free market, but is having a true free-market at the cost of your country and fellow (white) man really worth it?

Are you the Block?

I have no idea what you're talking about, user...

Whats the quick rundown on the the snek being chopped up? I've seen it a couple times and never understood it.

Not even close faggot/OP

Both uniting against the greater globalist leftist threat.

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it's a metaphor for being divided and conquered, it originated with a cartoon drawn by Benjamin Franklin that portrayed the American colonies in the same fashion

The less retarded of us understand that it's not the time to punch right but to go after the left until it dies.

It represented the consequences of the 13 colonies not federalizing, basically it was fear propaganda that if the autonomous colonies didn't cuck themselves by fighting for Washington against the British and giving him power over them then somehow they would all die

That's been a big issue for me lately. I basically fap to free markets, but more and more its seeming like that old Sup Forums saying: Communism and capitalism are just two sides of the same Jewish coin.

>Be Ancap

The Nazis gravitate towards the right libertarians because the Libertarians are willing to tolerate any society that does not aggress against someone involuntarily. Meaning a nat soc society could exist in Ancapistan as long as it didn't start trying to gain lebensraum or prevented anyone from leaving it. Nat Soc does have a sense of private property, Communists do not, which puts them in violation of NAP by default.

I personally tolerate them for a few reasons:

1.Fascism as an ideology is virtually no threat to anyone in my country. Anyone who even shades that direction can never hope to hold public office. They are a virtual political non-entity. Communists however are a serious threat because they have a very inclusive message which can bring together and misdirect a lot of people into basically stealing my shit (taxes).

2.They are opposed to my enemies and contain within their own ideology the seeds to their own destruction. They are themselves socialists and their economies will fail for similar reasons to Communism. it just may take a little longer because they do have some sense of free market principles, but fuck up when trying to direct certain industries towards the so called "Greater Good of the Nation". It also seems to be heavily reliant on having a "good" leader. Communism relied on the same thing and was literally trying to create a transcendent sort of "Soviet Ideal" man that was utterly selfless and always did what was best for others. They don't realize that serving your own best interest by interacting with others is what is best for others.

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4.Profit because I'll sell merch to both

National Socialism as in the 1920s and 1930s would not work 1:1 today. Impossible.
People who claim to be National Socialists are usually Nationalists who agree with a few of the socialist policies, but never full on NatSoc.

t. German with both grandparents being full NatSoc, The Zeitgeist changed and this also explains your question.
Being Nationalist and Capitalist is possible these days and what most are.
Back then the times were different, much different, Left, Right and Center needed Socialismin their politicial Weltanschauung

>pic related: paternal grandpas
>died in 2012

Press F to pay respects

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Thanks. Have a Canadian snek.

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It's almost like there was a political need for binding individuals together under a single banner to increase strength. I wonder if there is a term for that.

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pretty much this

the first step of implementing communism is to kill me or ruin my life
the first step of implementing anarcho-communism is to kill me or ruin my life
the first step of implementing national socialism is to kill the above two groups

not hard to figure out which of three non-ideal groups I'd like most

For now, we both strongly agree that commies and SJW should get free rides.

So far, only the left is violating the NAP big time everywhere they can. Our fashy friendos don't, and even protect people when acting as vigilante.

So yeah.
For now, focus on the commies. Once they're gone, we'll figure something out.

Yeah common enemy, but don't forget we agree on many of the objectives without agreeing on the means: we're both anti degeneracy, both pro family, pro white, pro morality, etc

N-nationalism

Ethno-Nationalism

Plus, as a team, we can find a way to monetize helicopter rides and gassing together, and make a healthy profit while we end communist degeneracy together.

I understand your confusion OP, heres my situation:

>White male
>Red pilled on Jews
>Red pilled on White genocide
>Red pilled on race realism
>100% on board with preserving the white race
>but ultimately I want get me a comfy white woman and build a cabin in the woods off grid with muh guns and muh weed

So I think its because we agree on social issues. At the end of the day though, the facists prefer a heavily regulated, but civil society. I just want to be left the fuck alone because large societies are fucking stupid.

It's like a Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, but with ancaps and NatSocs

that's the dichotomy that kept Sup Forums alive between Sup Forumss inception and when moot nuked the board at the end of 2014

after that, this board was dead until Trump won and everyone migrated here from other boards. Sup Forums used to be complete shit, worse than Sup Forums. The Romney election times made me physically ill.

>Trump won
i mean 'trump ran'

I can understand this argument with our stance to commies. They literally will kill us because we believe in personal property and profit motives. But why do they think we by default want to kill them? I have no interest in killing commies until they start chimping out like antifa/otherwise not leaving me the fuck alone.

Oh kinda like a fasces?

Also, digits. Thanks based kek.

Kek is truly great is he not? Thats two sets of the same repeating numbers folks.

>checking your own digits
Sad, kill yourself sad

Personally, as a fascist who loves my ancap bros, I think the best possible middle ground we can achieve in the event that we ever get the chance to answer the JQ and fix society, would be to simply refound the united states by it's original constitutional charter minus the 50 hojillion amendments and laws added to the system after the fact, but add in a rider that america is explicitly white, happa, and asian and that the only people who can migrate legally are ethnic europeans and south east asians. Thus we solve white genocide, and have a basically free society with the caveat that darkies get the rope.

This, also it should be a sign of the times that I have more trust in the NatSoc for rational discussion and a geniune good-faith attempt to represent white interests.

That would be a great metaphor

I love this, and I kind of want a more serious version to hang on my wall, possibly in orange.

Dont be mad because you can't get digits faggot.

I'm of the opinion that the lower IQ masses need a strong hand to guide them or else they'll naturally fall to degeneracy, perhaps state aptitude testing should decide which freedoms you have a right to?

>Communists will never leave us alone
>They know we want to be left alone
>They know we will want to kill them once we realize this

I don't have the artistic talent to make it, but I like the idea of the classic Gadsen snake wrapped around an axe with "Don't Tread On Us" under it

10/10 would buy this flag

Ancaps are good people with good intentions. But they simply don't realize that NatSoc must come first.

Theyre both facsist groups under different names

Lots of NatSocs are in favor of bulkinzation anyway. So in the event we finally get to purge commie filth, we can just bulkinize.

Great observation retard.

Sure, you people do your society thing. I just feel those who do not wish to be apart of it should be allowed to purchase some land in the wilderness and live peacefully. If i become a degenerate in the wild, natural selection will kill me off and my genes with me.

I like it

That's fair, I realise from reading this thread that we share a lot of common goals/values, just our means of achieving them differ.

Death cult confirmed.

This. The nazi-ancap alliance is inevitable.

I was thinking we tread back would fit better, but totally.

See this shit just sounds like the same rational behind achieving communism to me. Granted communism can't even exist even in a thought experiment, but you know what I'm saying.

Danke from Walhalla

>pic related: Him and his Squad ready to hunt down french Maquis in Alsace-Lorraine (((Resistance)))

are you the dick hole kraut that said he was going to email everyone pictures of his grandfathers nazi stuff and then flaked?