Catholic lies

Can we please talk about how Catholicism has constantly throughout history showed itself as a false form of Christianity, from the pope toasting the devil, to persecution of Christians trying to translate the bible into English, to indulgences and the fact that they clearly disbelieve the bible itself.

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bible doesn't say anything that should be believed. so if those so called Christians indeed have something they probably choose to stonewall about it and riot against anyone who gets a whiff about their rainbow NAMBLA secret. Here in lithuania catholic church is taken over by shit martini stirrers from lutheran and anglican "cia" faith based initiatives. Everyone speaks with a rainbow lisp. wearing colorful violet gowns etc.. Main catholic website has pride parade motif incorporated in it's logo : bernardinai.lt

catholicism is a lie and plagued with corruption. Protestantism is the true faith of the holy trinity.

Not to mention the faith that hasn't been cucked out to accept degenerate behavior and Muslims

good goy!

As if user truly believes that the Roman Catholic Church and its bank aren't influenced by the Jews

Yes. It is very plain historical fact: the Catholic Church was created as a bureaucratic organization to manage the western part of the Roman Empire (conquered vassal states in Europe) and the "religion" is a mix of judaism and the roman imperial cult (worship of the emperor) written/designed by the descendants of the high priesthood of Jerusalem who defected to the roman empire when Jerusalem was sacked.

100% undisputed history but some "white" people still so stupid they think they were descended from jews born 6000 years ago.

Catholic women are the last *White* women on Earth that respect family values, and wont divorce you for 50% of your shit.

prove me wrong.

Protestantism is an improvement in that it preaches liberation from Rome but it is still a limited slave religion because it only uses the symbols of the master.

Luther was a hard core guy as were many protestants. The "red-pills" those guys pushed make pol seem like faggots.

The masses keep reverting to the condition of slavery that they are accustom to though so history is lost and repeated.

Thank god someone realizes it. The Roman Catholic Church is based around control.

Catholic women are whores and believe confession will absolve any sin so they'll cheat. Get a Protestant

Every priest is a closeted fag.

>trinity
literally WHAT has this got to do with christianity

Hi Achmed

We're Christians, we stopped listening to the pope +50 years ago, the RCC institution is dying, but a new one is already coming through. No fear for Xians, it's the atheists who listened to Kike propaganda and can't tell the difference between "Christians" and the Roman Catholic Church I pity.

>uses the word kike
>worships the jewish messiah

It's the principle we follow, just help each other. We aren't pussies though, guns were stored in churches until 10 ya

>implying translating the vulgate wasn't a mistake

Keeping it in the source language prevents peasant anti intellectual cults from forming like we have now

>Protestantism is the true faith of the holy trinity.
Really, which one of the 1000's of denominations is the true faith? You do realize their are serious theological differences between them? You can't have a varied truth.

Christ Himself said that hell will never triumph over His Church, yet you say God sat on His Hands for 1500 years and let the only form of christianity that existed be a mere tool for the devil, you are contradicting Him.

We're all Christians, can we retake Christendom?

meanwhile in early Christian

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

>proddi is true christian of early Christian
Meanwhile....

biggest vatican cover up since the kiddie diddlers:

youtube.com/watch?v=oXWgJSpvbic

>proddi is true bible
Meanwhile in Biblical scholarship

But why proddi contradict early Christian?

for you pic see Matthew 18:6
rest of your faggot post is conflating Catholicism (body of true ideas) with catholics (fallen men that err)

>the Catholic Church was created as a bureaucratic organization
>Upon this rock I will found my Church

What a shit thread.

>sola fide is true
Meanwhile in early Christian

Kike is to denote the descendants and followers of the Farizees and Talmudists who today call themselves jews. Ofcourse they have nothing to do with the followers of Christ. Christ called them liars and serpents and kept on condemning them every opportunity.

Russian Orthodoxy is where it's at. The priests can marry so there were never any pedo issues.

I don't know where you got that implication from my post but I am happy to hear it.

Burn in hell, heathen.

>there is no priesthood
Meanwhile.....

"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]

Your church got cucked by a lanklet autocrat.

If catholic priests could marry I would immediately set out to become a priest

Deuteronomy 18:9
>When thou art come into the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.

Catholicism is riddled with pagan beliefs, which is an abomination unto the lord.

Easter comes from the word Ishtar. It is the celebration of the resurrection of Nimrod into Tammuz. Christmas too, is a pagan holiday. Jesus was not born in winter, the reason this time was chosen was because of the pagan Saturnalia. Easter was about fertility so that when Saturnalia came around, about 9 months later, there would be plenty of children to sacrifice.

A lot of it comes down to Nimrod, Semiramis, and Tammuz. This is why the Catholics hold Mary so high; they are trying to turn her into Semiramis. They recreate the same beliefs with different names. The Catholics lie and say that Mary was sinless and forever a virgin. If you read the Bible, you will find that she had at least half a dozen other children besides Jesus.

The process of transubstantiation, found nowhere in the Bible, is an old pagan belief. It was believed that Nimrod would enter into little cakes and his followers would eat them and that they would be literally eating his flesh. The Catholic mass itself is an abomination unto the lord for mixing this pagan belief in with Christian beliefs.

The Catholic church itself is described in the Bible as Mystery Babylon. It is an abomination unto the lord.

spbp

FUCK OFF KIKE

>which one of the 1000's of denominations is the true faith
All of them

Actually I will correct my last line there. Rome is the Mystery Babylon, and the Catholic church is the whore of Babylon.

Which means that the single most important distinguishing characteristic of christianity, in your view, is the rejection of Catholicism. Not the nature of Christ, or salvation, or the understanding of Communion. Doesn't sound very convincing.

>The process of transubstantiation, found nowhere in the Bible,

It did when Christ described it.

>He's speaking in metaphor

its funny how He's only metaphorical when it contradicts your beliefs, but literal when its seems like He isn't.

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Meanwhile

"Since then these things are manifest to us, and we have looked into the depths of the divine knowledge, we ought to do in order all things which the Master commanded us to perform at appointed times. He commanded us to celebrate sacrifices and services, and that it should not be thoughtlessly or disorderly, but at fixed times and hours. He has Himself fixed by His supreme will the places and persons whom He desires for these celebrations, in order that all things may be done piously according to His good pleasure, and be acceptable to His will. So then those who offer their oblations at the appointed seasons are acceptable and blessed, but they follow the laws of the Master and do not sin. For to the high priest his proper ministrations are allotted, and to the priests the proper place has been appointed, and on Levites their proper services have been imposed. The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity."

Source: St. Clement, bishop of Rome, 80 A.D., to the Corinthians

"Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices."

Source: Letter to the Corinthians, [44,4]


PRODDIE btfo

>Catjolic are CANNIVAL

Meanwhile.....


"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

>Which means that the single most important distinguishing characteristic of christianity, in your view, is the rejection of Catholicism
No, it's the gospel.
>Not the nature of Christ, or salvation
These are essentials, and all Protestants agree on them
>the understanding of Communion
This is adiaphora, and it's ok to disagree on it.

Say what you will about the Catholic church, one must realize that Catholicism and the power structure of the Vatican was a necessary invention to combat the tribalism of the Jews, a trait which Europe did not share until Catholicism came along and formed a unified front to Jewish power structures

Since then it has been infiltrated by Jews, so it goes without saying that it needs to be cleansed. But it had and served a valuable purpose for many centuries.

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>one must realize that Catholicism and the power structure of the Vatican was a necessary invention to combat the tribalism of the Jews
Wrong

Except protestants cannot agree on,
>free will
>OSAS
>baptism
>eucharist
>worship
>predestination
>justification
>atonement
>JESUS

But hey that's NON ESSENTIAL!

Amen

>I hate the early church fathers because they contradict proddi

"Consider how contrary to the mind of God are the heterodox in regard to the grace of God which has come to us. They have no regard for charity, none for the widow, the orphan, the oppressed, none for the man in prison, the hungry or the thirsty. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, the flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead."

"Letter to the Smyrnaeans", paragraph 6. circa 80-110 A.D.

"Come together in common, one and all without exception in charity, in one faith and in one Jesus Christ, who is of the race of David according to the flesh, the son of man, and the Son of God, so that with undivided mind you may obey the bishop and the priests, and break one Bread which is the medicine of immortality and the antidote against death, enabling us to live forever in Jesus Christ."

-"Letter to the Ephesians", paragraph 20, c. 80-110 A.D.

PRODDIE btfo

>>justification
If someone doesn't believe sola fide, they are not a Protestant

Come on lets be honest, all religion is a crock of shit. We have the answers now that we didn't have when some Arab came up with it in the first place thousands of years ago when we thought the sun revolved around the earth. People like religion because it is a place to belong with a community and a common interest and I get that. You don't need religion for that though. The arguing between factions shit that happens between religions is retarded. Family, healthy interests and real friends are the best substitute for religion, and you don't have to pay tithing for any of it.

I'm a Catholic. The quote exemplifies the fallacy of "once saved always saved".

Salvation requires faith and works. Look at the irony of that quote, mate.

>Luther
>Justification happens whenever penance does

>Calvin
>One time thing

>Wesley
>go for LE christian perfection

>CATHOLICS are sola excel sia

Meanwhile.....

"Those, therefore, who desert the preaching of the Church, call in question the knowledge of the holy Priests, not taking into consideration of how much greater consequence is a religious man, even in a private station, than a blasphemous and impudent sophist. Now, such are all the heretics, and those who imagine that they have hit upon something more beyond the truth, so that by following those things already mentioned, proceeding on their way variously, inharmoniously, and foolishly, not keeping always to the same opinions with regard to the same things, as blind men are led by the blind, they shall deservedly fall into the ditch of ignorance lying in their path, ever seeking and never finding out the truth. It behoves us, therefore, to avoid their doctrines, and to take careful heed lest we suffer any injury from them; but to flee to the Church, and be brought up in her bosom, and be nourished with the Lord’s Scriptures. For the Church has been planted as a garden in this world; therefore says the Spirit of God, 'Thou mayest freely eat from every tree of the garden' that is, Eat ye from every Scripture of the Lord; but ye shall not eat with an uplifted mind, nor touch any heretical discord." - AH, 5, 20, 2

>the church stands on sola scriptura

Meanwhile.....


"Since therefore we have such proofs, it is not necessary to seek the truth among others which it is easy to obtain from the Church; since the Apostles, like a rich man [depositing his money] in a bank, lodged in her hands most copiously all things pertaining to the truth: so that every man, whosoever will, can draw from her the water of life. For she is the entrance to life; all others are thieves and robbers. On this account are we bound to avoid them, but to make choice of the thing pertaining to the Church with the utmost diligence, and to lay hold of the Tradition of the truth. For how stands the case? Suppose there arise a dispute relative to some important question among us, should we not have recourse to the most ancient Churches with which the Apostles held constant intercourse, and learn from them what is certain and clear in regard to the present question? For how should it be if the Apostles themselves had not left us writings? Would it not be necessary, [in that case,] to follow the course of the Tradition which they handed down to those to whom they did commit the Churches?" - AH, 3, 4, 1

Not all of them. The denominations that teach the gospel and that you are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ by having faith in His sacrifce are correct. Some protestant denominations do not teach this.

Hebrews 10:10-14
>By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Jesus made His sacrifice once on the cross. He does not need to transform into cookies every weekend to save Christians, He has already made his sacrifice once for everyone.

>sola scripture
>the bible is easy to read
>contradicting intepretations

Half of the NT are letters to various churches telling them that they dun goofed. Why would Rome be any different after Paul's death?

>No, it's the gospel.
Gee I wonder who compiled those.
>These are essentials, and all Protestants agree on them
On predestination?
>This is adiaphora, and it's ok to disagree on it.
Christ seems to assert otherwise, and logic does the same. The fact that certain sects can view it as Divine and others symbolic is irreconcilable to any honest man. The fact you are willing to compromise out of a mutual hatred of Catholicism betrays a base pettiness.

Truth is truth, but if you are willing allow for as many interpretations as there are men willing to interpret then you concede the fact that your fine with any truth other then Catholicism. This being the only interception the various half truths attack lead one to believe it might have something special.

>dun goofed
>someone actually tells them off
>but it never happened for centuries
>proddies can't even into the paul himself accurately

Fuck off. You're all falling for shit somebody tells you because he wants your money. That's the business model of every religion and you are good like cucks and eat their shit.

>Jesus made His sacrifice once on the cross. He does not need to transform into cookies every weekend to save Christians, He has already made his sacrifice once for everyone.

Are you denying Christ sacrifice saturates all time? How else are you able to access said sacrifice, considering it happening thousands of years before your birth, or that of the patriarchs, who died thousands of years before it? The Mass is the same sacrifice on Cross.

>I have no concept of transcendence
>I cannot logic

All Abrahamic religion (Christians, Jews and Muslims) are horrible institutions that grow by oppressing humans, they are a psychosocial meme weapon brain virus that create nothing but hypocrites

If the sacrifice saturates all time then why would He need to sacrifice Himself again once per week?

>How else are you able to access said sacrifice, considering it happening thousands of years before your birth

Don't understand what you are getting at here. Are you saying the only people who were saved by Jesus' sacrifice were people alive at the time? His sacrifice applies to everyone until the time of Jacob's trouble.

"This food we call the Eucharist, of which no one is allowed to partake except one who believes that the things we teach are true, and has received the washing for forgiveness of sins and for rebirth, and who lives as Christ handed down to us. For we do not receive these things as common bread or common drink; but as Jesus Christ our Savior being incarnate by God's Word took flesh and blood for our salvation, so also we have been taught that the food consecrated by the Word of prayer which comes from him, from which our flesh and blood are nourished by transformation, is the flesh and blood of that incarnate Jesus."

"First Apology", Ch. 66, inter A.D. 148-155.

"God has therefore announced in advance that all the sacrifices offered in His name, which Jesus Christ offered, that is, in the Eucharist of the Bread and of the Chalice, which are offered by us Christians in every part of the world, are pleasing to Him."

"Dialogue with Trypho", Ch. 117, circa 130-160 A.D.

Moreover, as I said before, concerning the sacrifices which you at that time offered, God speaks through Malachias, one of the twelve, as follows: 'I have no pleasure in you, says the Lord; and I will not accept your sacrifices from your hands; for from the rising of the sun until its setting, my name has been glorified among the gentiles; and in every place incense is offered to my name, and a clean offering: for great is my name among the gentiles, says the Lord; but you profane it.' It is of the sacrifices offered to Him in every place by us, the gentiles, that is, of the Bread of the Eucharist and likewise of the cup of the Eucharist, that He speaks at that time; and He says that we glorify His name, while you profane it."

-"Dialogue with Trypho", [41: 8-10]


He is wrong

>Don't understand what you are getting at here. Are you saying the only people who were saved by Jesus' sacrifice were people alive at the time?

the opposite, like you. You understand the fact that you do not have to live during Christ's time in order to partake of said sacrifice. The disagreement is on the role Eucharist. You fully acknowledge that you can, at any point, access the Cross and the subsequent redemption, I agree, but I also argue that the sacrament of the Eucharist does the same (it cannot help but do it, being His Body). Moreover, I would argue the sacrifice is made consummate through the consumption of the Eucharist.

The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. Retard.

Catholicism is the one true Church established by Peter through Jesus. Protestants are just a bunch of jew loving heretics. Research who Martin Luther really was.

The Jews have hated catholics ever since the Inquisition. Some Jews infiltrated the Vatican, but the very essence of Protestants loves the Jews. It doesn't get more shabbos goy than a Protestant.

That would be an ecumenical matter

when you work in centuries ppl don't live long enough to remember.

>Catholicism is the one true Church established by Peter through Jesus.
can't think or find a more vile organization but hey to each their own.

>Gee I wonder who compiled those.
The gospel is the message of salvation.
>On predestination?
No.
>Christ seems to assert otherwise
He does not
>The fact that certain sects can view it as Divine and others symbolic is irreconcilable to any honest man
The faith by which the sinner is justified is trust in the life and death of Jesus Christ, not in the reality or unreality of presence in the sacrament. Paul explained that it is ok for Christians to disagree on things other than the gospel or God.
As Augustine said, in essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things, charity.
>Salvation requires faith and works
Salation yes, but all justification requires is faith.
>Some protestant denominations do not teach this.
If they do not teach it, they are not Protestant.
>Are you denying Christ sacrifice saturates all time?
His sacrifice is perpetually mine, but it is one and done, we never return to that cross.
>The Mass is the same sacrifice on Cross.
So why has it not ceased?

>So why has it not ceased?
I stated, the redemption you believe you achieve merely though faith is instead made consummate through the Eucharist. It continues because people continue to be born or fall into sin. You do not argue that Christ dies again every time you turn to Him for redemption, I argue the same, except that the Eucharist is the explicit completion of this turning to.

>He does not
>Paul explained that it is ok for Christians to disagree on things other than the gospel or God

Right, and we know where this will go. Whether or not Christ is being figurative or literal when discussing the Eucharist. I have yet to be convinced He was speaking in metaphor.

>It continues because people continue to be born or fall into sin
For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near. Otherwise, would they not have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, having once been cleansed, would no longer have any consciousness of sins?
Hebrews 10:1-2
Christ's sacrifice covers over all sin, as it is written "Blessed is the man whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin."
There is no need for Christ's sacrifice to be repeated because His perfects all those who are being sanctified. All their sins are already forgiven, past, present and future.
>You do not argue that Christ dies again every time you turn to Him for redemption
But I do argue that His sacrifice is presented but once, and never to be re-presented. His sacrifice is presented once, the merits of it are all that continue to be applied, through faith.

>I argue the same, except that the Eucharist is the explicit completion of this turning to
But you believe a man could partake the mass every day and yet taste the fires of hell. But of all those who draw near to Christ's sacrifice, none of them will see hell.
>Whether or not Christ is being figurative or literal when discussing the Eucharist. I have yet to be convinced He was speaking in metaphor.
It is clear from the words of institution
Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
Matthew 26:26-29
He picks up the unleavened bread, unleavened as He is sinless, and breaks it, as His body was broken on the tree. He then picks up the wine, and says that it is His blood, which is poured out for the sins of the world, and that wine was not poured for sins, but His blood was spilled for the sins of many at the cross.

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Not buying it. You've heard the arguments. Why speak so literally. Why demand this of the crowd so intently they flee in revulsion. Why was He not recognized on the road until He broke bread.

>Why speak so literally
There is no such thing as literal words, only literal statements.
>Why demand this of the crowd so intently they flee in revulsion
Have you walked through John 6? Not only is it not about the sacrament, those are not the words they leave because of. The words they flee from are "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father". It was His assertion of the bondage of their wills to sin.
>Why was He not recognized on the road until He broke bread.
Because they remembered their last meal with Him.

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>a false form of Christianity
Looks like they're on the side of the serpent

>There is no such thing as literal words, only literal statements.
in other words, "trust me, despite 1500 years of consistent interpretation, He doesn't really mean it."

>everything else

heard it before, don't buy it.

>despite 1500 years of consistent interpretation
This is a meme. Any can claim that. I'm guessing you don't actually read any ECFs, most of them agree with me.

>following a religion that was started by the Jews

Good Goy

Not only is it hilarious that you feel the need to point to other writing to support this claim, despite your precious sola scriptura ( I thought tradition is invalid?) you're also wrong. They believed in the True Presence .

>Not only is it hilarious that you feel the need to point to other writing to support this claim
It's a question of history, not of theology. The beliefs of the post-apostolic church is a question of history.
>despite your precious sola scriptura ( I thought tradition is invalid?)
You clearly do not understand sola scriptura. Sola scriptura is the doctrine that scripture alone is infallible. It means that tradition is to be tested according to the word of God, not thrown out.
>They believed in the True Presence
Have you read everything that was written from John to Zwingli? If not you have born false witness.
Anyway, take this excerpt from Against Marcion as an example.
>Then, having taken the bread and given it to His disciples, He made it His own body, by saying, This is my body, that is, the figure of my body. A figure, however, there could not have been, unless there were first a veritable body. An empty thing, or phantom, is incapable of a figure. If, however, (as Marcion might say,) He pretended the bread was His body, because He lacked the truth of bodily substance, it follows that He must have given bread for us. It would contribute very well to the support of Marcion's theory of a phantom body, that bread should have been crucified! But why call His body bread, and not rather (some other edible thing, say) a melon, which Marcion must have had in lieu of a heart! He did not understand how ancient was this figure of the body of Christ, who said Himself by Jeremiah: I was like a lamb or an ox that is brought to the slaughter, and I knew not that they devised a device against me, saying, Let us cast the tree upon His bread, which means, of course, the cross upon His body. And thus, casting light, as He always did, upon the ancient prophecies, He declared plainly enough what He meant by the bread, when He called the bread His own body.

no its's not. it launders money for the mafia.

Trips proclaimed it

Secularism = Suicide

I have no doubts you can't think

Why are there Catholics living in the United States? Is Popish heresy now tolerated in that bastion of free peoples?

The voice of God is your Gut Instincts

The word was made flesh (spoken or acted on) and it went from idea to reality.

How do people complicate it so much?

Roman Catholicism is the only true form of Christianity.