Tfw natsoc sound very interesting and appealing to me but I can't stand the "soc" part of it

>tfw natsoc sound very interesting and appealing to me but I can't stand the "soc" part of it

Anyone else? I think fags and jews should be gassed but I don't agree with the socialist part in this.

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Gas yourself why you're at it since you're a slav subhuman according to natsoc you fucktard

I'm not a slav you retard.

it's a mix between full capitalist, and full socialist. you get the best of both worlds.

>implying the Nazis were real
Lol bluepilled faggot.

The Socialism part of it is a meme, it's not socialist in the marxist sense of the word, Free enterprise is paramount to having an economic system that works.

the fact that you want gays gassed means you are aligned with Satan. Even the Pope says gays are ok and deserve respect.

Pope? You mean the leftist fag plant that currently serves as pope?

is natcap a thing?

>can't stand the "soc" part of it
What's wrong with helping you fellow citizens?

It's socialist in the proper terminology where your countries people are the most important part of your policy rather than socialist in the commie filth terminology where you're expected to give away everything you own and live on potatoes.

For 613987313891713th time, the socialism in National Socialism has NOTHING to do with marxism, there is no collectivism, no big welfare, no big taxes, just a crackdown on lobbys and banks.

Too rational and common-sense.
Not contrarian and edgy enough.

It can't be in the sense that it won't be as authoritarian as NatSoc. The whole idea is of autoritarian regimes is to completely take control of the life of its citizens, meaning that every single bit of freedom must be abolished. In capitalism, the market is free and the government WANTS to keep the market as free as possible. NatCap can be a thing as in capitalism focused on ones own country, but having an authoritarian NatCap system like NatSoc is, would be practically impossible.

>unironically believing fascism in any form works
kys

interesting, thank you

The nazi's based their economy off of seizing private property it would have never worked if there weren't rich jews to take money from.

natsoc socialism isn't commie socialism.
it only means free healthcare, minimum wages,ect.

nationalism doesnt have anything to do with gassing fags and jews you dumb retard

yes, and i am going to finance my rent, by stealing sweets from my little sister. c'mon user.
what has financed, for example the war, were bonds that the steelfactories got, instead of money. they could trade the bonds from one company to another. like a second currency.
also, this. a holocaust is not implyied in any government/financial system.

>socialism is not socialism
kys faggots

What you're describing is not socialist at all and it's not the socialist part of it.

Nothing wrong with it but I don't want the state to take my hard earned money to help others without my fucking permission.

Socialism is the gay little brother of communism.

3 people explain why you are wrong, and you still don't listen. polski dumbass

In a world with:
>no degeneracy
>no minorities
>a hard-working populace
social programs won't be as expensive and will serve to improve society as opposed to enabling niggers.

You're just doing mental gymnastics to make it sound like it's not socialism, but it is, and it is about as bad as the commie socialism is.

But of course you'd have no idea about it, italian. You've never experienced actual socialism.

You cannot improve the society by giving the lazy fags money for NOTHING. Why would I, a working man, give my wealth to some faggot who doesn't work? Unless it's my own charity, this should NEVER happen.

lurk moar fag

sage

Roses are red, violets are bigger, it is the job of white America to gas spics, Jews, and niggers.

you'd want economy to act freely but withing limits so that greed doesn't hurt the people. in NatSoc you care for your people and express this in laws. you want healthy competition, you want them to improve upon each other, you don't want them to destroy each other to become successful. you want their hard work to bear fruits for their own benefit and for all of the people.

It's basically living your own life, the way you want but still care about the well being of your familiy (nation). that's what the "soc" part means.

does natsoc socialism include seizing the means of production? does it include forcing the workers, on a farm for example, to all share the outcome of their work? no it doesn't.

> I don't want the state to take my hard earned money to help others without my fucking permission.
>I don't want to contribute to my nation
you are a nigger harry

No seriously you want to gas the parasites but you want to be one yourself? How does this make any sense?

Dumb libertarian nigger, I swear. Social programs can be used to support the children of the men who will die in WWIII, help raise them right and benefit society. I agree with you on principle, but sometimes you need to hand gibs to those who deserve it, veterans with PTSD for example.

>does natsoc socialism include seizing the means of production? does it include forcing the workers, on a farm for example, to all share the outcome of their work? no it doesn't.
What the fuck do you think was lebensraum and seizing everything from jews and slavs?

Maybe you're just a regular conservative or paleiconservative. NatSoc is the final evolution of that, yes, but if you prefer free market capitalism then I could see why you don't like Natsoc

Socialism means public ownership of the means of production. Not related to social programs at all.

>contribute to my nation
By having my money forcibly taken away and given to Jamal who happens to not want to work? Are you fucking serious? I'm all for spending the money on roads and shit but not on fucking welfare.

>Social programs can be used to support the children of the men who will die in WWIII
We're not talking about wartime here.

Welcome to pinochet's army. Enjoy your stay and stay off my fucking property

elemination of parasites in wartime for jews and for slavs it was purging of communists.

Right there with you. Love strong army and nationalism, but socialism creates weaklings and lowlifes!

>don't agree with the socialist part
Amen, brother.

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>By having my money forcibly taken away and given to Jamal who happens to not want to work? Are you fucking serious? I'm all for spending the money on roads and shit but not on fucking welfare.
You are mistaken,
Jamal would already be expelled of the country.
What is bad about welfare in an ethnic Nationstate?
Don't you care about your fellow countrymen?

Well if it helps you and your faggotry at all, Hitler's Nazi Germany wasn't socialist. Hitler wiped out the socialist faction of the NatSoc in the Night of the Long Knives

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Thus allowing him to take the government to full blown fascism - the merger of state and corporation.

are you a newfag or what?

The capitalists are what made the right cancerous desu.

Fuck capitalism. You larp as fascists but never read any real fascist work. Hitler wasn't even fascist.

National socialism doesn't automatically gas slavs, that's something extra Hitler did.
I don't like regular socialism where lazy fatties clog up hospitals and leech welfare.
But I think natsoc socialism would work better because first it's a capitalism/socialism hybrid and second everything is done with the national interest in mind so it wouldn't be abused as much.

A true ethno-nationalist republic has always been my idea of a great model for a nation.Socialism is a cancer just like communism for its own sake.

The whole socialism part is more about ensuring the most healthy family unit possible than importing refugees to rape our women. The Jews have perverted it as with all things.
>The family is the smallest but most precious unit in the building of a State.

Yeah, Marxist socialism. I was just talking about social programs, something that virtually every country has. There was heavy emphasis on private ownership in Nazi Germany.
I wasn't either, I was talking post-wartime. What I was trying to say is that there are times when social programs are quite useful, though I agree that free gibs create degeneracy.

>By having my money forcibly taken away and given to Jamal who happens to not want to work?
first of all, its not for jamal. because natsoc is ethno nationalism. meaning jamal is gonna get shipped back to africa. and if you are concerned about freeloaders from your ethnicity. rest assured, that natsoc is only providing the necessary things. enough for food, shelter, clothing and medicine.
i am a fan of poorhouses. so the nececities for the poor are covered, but it isn't very comfortable to live in a poor house, so the capitalistic instinct can guide them, to achieve better means of living by themselves, without the governments help.
taking land in a war is what every nation has done. also taking the belongings of people you send into camp (therefore not considering them members of your group), does not mean that the group (nation) is affected by it, whatsoever. btw concentrationcamps are in no way necessary or implied in natsoc.

How'd that cutie come from that?

>I think fags and jews should be gassed

And Canadians, along with niggers and finns. Nobody needs them. And Puerto Ricans. Just gas them. And swedes. Gas the swedes too while at it. In fact, gas everyone. Except perhaps the faroeislanders, if they beg for it. If they don't beg, just gas them too. They have to sincerely beg to be spared. There isn't nearly enough gassing going on nowadays.

the rapefugees is way overstated. The Jews are just pumping this to increase the divides between the West and the Islamic World. They want Greater Israel so they need to send the Middle East into chaos by getting you goyim to bomb the shit out of them.

The only real threat to your way of life are Jews and Salafist/Wahhabi Muslims. They both want world domination, none of the other muslim factions give a shit about spreading their faith to the USA or Europe. It's all a Jewish lie.

>taking land in a war is what every nation has done. also taking the belongings of people you send into camp (therefore not considering them members of your group), does not mean that the group (nation) is affected by it, whatsoever. btw concentrationcamps are in no way necessary or implied in natsoc.
This was happening in mainland germany too.

You are some self satisfied college faggot like the rest of my "fellow" americans in this fucking thread aren't you?Shut up bernie cuck,the only thing socialism ensures is the profit and longevity of THE STATE the people are still just lowly cogs.

The (((pope))) is a commie

that's not mother and daughter.

National socialism favored mandatory charity of food and hand-me-downs through approved organizations over the welfare state.

Jesus fuck,then nat soc its not for you,did you know that its a totalitarian sistem?!That is if they need more soldiers and you qualify they send you to military unit with your permision or not,if you fight against it then you get necked as a traitor.
Fascism and national socialism are promote a higly collective society that is based on personal sacrifice for the greater good,if you want the state to take care of you then you have to take care of it.
The difference between fascism and natsoc its not the socialist part(they both had similar things)but the end goal and purpose of the ideology,fascism is for the state(a form of civic nationalism)and natsoc its for its people(ethnic nationalism).

Natsoc is socialist as in 'we're in on this together'.

>that's something extra Hitler did.

uhmmm

the pope is a false pope, who will burn in hell.

you cant have national sovereignty without autarky, and you cant have autarky without a constantly expanding state to provide for the constantly expanding populous.

just go cantwell tier

Did you actually think those two are related?

>Never actually read socialist thought

Did you know that Lenin thought the state was an oppressor?

so you are saying the moment people come together for a good its socialism?you are useless fucking tool aren't you?

Socialism is what lost Hitler the war, socialism devalued the mark and ruined the german economy.

The only reason they called it socialist was because socialism was real popular in Germany at the time. Same reason they called it the "worker's party"

If it started here it would be called "National Freedom Party" or something.

Faggots like you should be gassed no questions asked....

nigger, that was in a time, where you would starve without food charity! that wasn't some nignog with an obama phone, buying hotpokets off of his foodstamps.

No fucking shit.but did it bother him that trotsky was taking wall streets money?did it bother him when he went rampaging with the cheka?I could go on but its amazing your attention span has held this long.Go back to sucking zionist ivy league dick.your kind will be dealt with soon enough

>There isn't nearly enough gassing going on nowadays
>didn't hear about muh babies in Syria
Sweden why?

Chill out (((neoconservative))) cocksucker. I'm full gas the kikes race war now. Ultimately the charity should be in place to help people onto their feet not sustain a slovenly way of life. Unfortunately non of this is possible without a homogenous state which we both know isn't happening in today's time. Never did I advocate for free college or anything I simply stated.
>The family is the smallest but most precious unit in the building of a State.

Good posts italanon.

The Pope and his buddies are kid diddlers, so is that ok now?
Fuck yeah, faggot.

Nat cap is marcantilism.
And capitalism isnt about freedom for everyone necessarily

((soc)) is a purely demagogic term. It was used for reaching the whole population spectre and ultimately taking control of the state. Anyways, they actually used social engineering for convincing the people (germanic runes, nationalisms, promises of greatness like murica do, etc)

I keep hearing the socialism isn't socialism meme.

You realize that Hitler increased welfare, socialized healthcare, increased subsidies for college students. He was kind of a Bernie Sanders in a lot ways, free or at least cheap college, free healthcare, pay for degenerates to keep on living without contributing to society.

Of course them romanian gypsies (they are all gypsies) should be gassed first. That goes without saying.

This guy gets it.
youtube.com/watch?v=UYbhpOemmcc

your muslim master is calling user

Bulgarians... the niggers of Europe. Gas at sight.

Not even close what lost Hitler the war was a 2 front fight with the UK and Russia,the winter,the fact that he chose Stalingrad for a moral victory instead of a strategic one.The fact that he had weak allies,the fact that the Jews finally got your country into the war.
Socialism was one of the least important factors.....

Yeah.. that is because socialism works in a homogenous society you fucking idiot.

It always has. The family IS socialist in the sense of Spengler.

Pretty sure continuously trying to expand rather than settling down with a large plot of land the world wasn't gonna give him shit for and telling the world to deal with it was more of the issue.

Nationalisms endgame is always the lebensraum question.
Youre not going to get a pro nationalist group that doesnt come to the realisation that other nations are a threat

This user gets it.

You are now in line. Congratulations.

welfare queens and white trash

Download and listen to Mein Kampf (Ford English Translation), you nigger. Nothing wrong with making money, but the community and culture is most important. This was Hitler's message. Can't explain it to you in a shit thread.

>the niggers of Europe
Is this an invitation to fuck your wife, Sven?

>After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.
As quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288

>Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist!
Why We Are Anti-Semites," August 15, 1920 speech in Munich at the Hofbräuhaus. Translated from Vierteljahrshefte für Zeitgeschichte, 16. Jahrg., 4. H. (Oct., 1968), pp. 390-420. Edited by Carolyn Yeager

>Capitalism as a whole will now be destroyed, the whole people will now be free. We are not fighting Jewish or Christian capitalism, we are fighting every capitalism: we are making the people completely free.
April 12, 1922 Hitler Speech, Munich
There are no such things as classes: they cannot be.
April 12, 1922 Hitler Speech, Munich
1923

en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

>We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!
Written by Joseph Goebbels and Mjölnir, Die verfluchten Hakenkreuzler. Etwas zum Nachdenken (Munich: Verlag Frz. Eher, 1932). Translated as “Those Damned Nazis,” (propaganda pamphlet).

>The worker in a capitalist state and that is his deepest misfortune is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker. He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces.

en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

Conclusion? Natsoc is a leftist ideology with racial supremacy.

>implying i am neocon

oh i get it,you are one of those bean drunk carter-ites that believe in "sustainable" affirmative action and the like?hue

lol the value of the Mark was shit because of socialism, the socialism destroyed the german economy.

in line?bitch,i take the tickets

Products of Jewish perversion. Socialism works in a homogenous state but that chance is long gone in today's time.

I'm kind of the same way, except fuck the nationalist part, or at least the racism.

Seriously, the only people I've ever met that identify this way are either retards who failed out of school or are bitter losers and looking who want the world to burn and are looking for someone to blame.

Yes i itch for the day when i can finally kill gypsys,i want to bash their subhuman skulls in shoot their kids and watch those animals cry and beg for their measly lives and it would still not be enough......
After that i want to pust a sharp wodden pole through each turkroach and funnaly the nuclear holocoast that africa,india,china and the middle east deserve.

So the money stolen from me goes to these retards instead, yeah makes me feel better, not.

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