Why are neonazis such fucking hypocrites?

>Hahaha this land is mine, I killed the natives and took it fair and square! Manifest Destiny!
>So I can take your things and that's fine, right?
>THAT'S THEEEEFT!!!

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>"neonazi"
Jew.

Same thing.

Conquering a lesser civilization is not the same as stealing.
I have no idea why, in the past 100 years, people have just simply forgot that humans have been erasing entire cultures for the betterment of their own people for thousands of years. Suddenly the top dogs have to bend over backwards so the slower people can have a chance at the goodlife.

because its the current year and we are nationalists, not absolutists

yes. Exactly. Congratulations, you understand now. Do you not think the natives fought and died for their land? Do you think they just gave it away? Do you expect us to just lay down and stick our necks out to die? There's obviously going to be a fight you fucking retard.

>Conquering a lesser civilization is not the same as stealing.
Of course not. Because they don't define property rights in the very narrowly specific way that you do LOL their shit is yours now!

Why is it okay for you to do it, but you have a problem with others doing it? If you truly believe what you claim to, that makes you a fucking hypocrite. No, you didn't just make an argument against muh white genocide. You made an argument that white men are too sociopathic, dishonest and insane to be allowed to ever have power.

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We never told the Indians that they couldn't fight back. And they did -- viciously.

The biggest hypocrisy is Nazis looted more art, antiques and gold from all across Europe than any nation in recent history while complaining of Jewish thieves.

You mean that same 100 years that saw more progress than the previous 10000 years of us killing each other for a piece of dirt?

It doesn't matter how they define it, they're culture doesn't exist anymore. They will, however, enjoy our prison system as is the way of my people.

So why do you have a problem with theft? Even if your argument is that "Indians didn't own land lol it's mine now", are you honestly trying to claim that whites didn't literally steal from Indians all the fucking time? And don't give me that "They did it too!!" bullshit, because that's not an argument.

We're not talking about Nazis. We're talking about neonazis, Americans, modern western white males: dogshit.

If they killed all the natives why are there so many of the drunk fuckers in my downtown area?

>It doesn't matter how they define it, they're culture doesn't exist anymore
I always find it funny how passively neonazis always refer to past crimes. "X happened", never "We caused X".

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White Europeans literally conquered the world and did whatever the FUCK they wanted. Europeans built a superior civilization and conquered lesser ones. It's not "fair", its not "honest" and its literally stealing, but I don't give a fuck. If you want it, come and take it. Take a country like Spain. One country is literally the reason why all spics in the world speak Spanish and are Christian. One. Fucking. Country. Europeans carved out Africa like a pumpkin and raped the continent dry of resources, and they could not be stopped. If you want to come and take it back, by all means try.

White people were the most advanced, it doesn't mean they are sociopathic you dumb mother fucker. Do you think if Montezuma had an army full of muskets and horses and boats he wouldn't try to go and conquer other parts of the world? Do you not think if the nigger tribes in Africa had more advanced technology they wouldn't have gone to Europe to try to enslave white people? Fuck off.

Because you live in the ratshit interior, like most hillbillies.

>and did whatever the FUCK they wanted
So, in other words, if the same is done to you, then that's fine, right? I mean you assholes are so fervent in trying to convince everyone that whatever you have now is your RIGHT through conquest after all.

Thats not what we're saying you fucking idiot. Of course if the mudslimes or niggers take the land they have a right to it - to the victor goes the spoils. That does not mean that we do not have the right to DEFEND it like the indians did to america when the europeans came. If we are able to successfully defend, they get shit. If we aren't they win. There is no hypocrisy here. YOU are the one saying that the treeniggers had the right to defend but now the whites don't. YOU are the hypocrite you fucking faggot.

Winners make the rules.
Quit your fucking bitching. You didn't even lose shit.

I know exactly what you're saying, so let's translate: "ME! ME! ME! ME! ME!" I just wish you tantrum-throwing infants would be honest about what you actually stood for instead of trying to mask it behind bullshit sophistry. The truth is, you don't actually believe in anything except getting what you want. Capitalism is fine when it benefits you, it's """Socialism""" when it doesn't. Wars of conquest are fine when they benefit you, they're EVIL WHITE GENOCIDE when they don't. The list is infinite.

You're hypocrites.

>white people are too cruel for this world

I thought the thinking was white people exterminated all the indians, but there are tons of them everywhere in Canada

genocide generally means the population goes down, not exponentially up

A central belief of the National-Socialist is that the principle of "Survival of the Fittest" applies to human societies. Hence, if the European colonists were stronger than the Native Americans, they had a right to seize their lands for their own purposes. Likewise, if the subversive tactics of the Jew prove to be more effective than any resistance we Whites can manage to put up to them, then the Jew can rightfully claim control over our lands. It is our belief, however, that Europeans do have it within them to effectively resist the Jew, but they are currently impervious to their agenda and so do not know what to resist. But this is changing rapidly, and the day a critical mass of Whites wake up, the Jew's reign of terror over the West will come to a swift end.

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>our prison system

What? I thought your whole country was a prison?

It's fine if you win. If we fight back and lose, you deserve to win. Don't you guys love nihilism and existentialism? Theres no right and wrong, its only who wins. Moral superiority doesn't matter, at the end of the day ethics dont matter. The winner controls everything, they get the spoils of war, they write the history.

>killing is bad
>someone is trying to kill me
>hurr better not kill them to protect myself because killing is bad
>I'm dead but at least I'm not a hypocrite

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It's not something any leftist can understand. In-group/out-group dynamics are beyond leftist comprehension. The "other" are treated collectively, and your own nation is treated like individuals. That is why we don't feel guilt for atrocities committed by our side because that was one man, but the any crimes committed by the other side is shared by all on that side. It's simply us versus them, and there's nothing wrong with that. There is a reason people evolved to think tribally, and if you don't have any feelings towards your own family or nation then you are a pampered leftist who has never experienced adverse outcomes. Ethnocentrism dominates humanism every time.

Natives didn't believe in land ownership, so how can we take something that belonged to no one?
Plus, I'm pretty sure we gave a lot of them some shiny beads.

Fuck off university student.

Protip: If you steal something, without getting caught, and avoid consequences, that thing is yours now. If you do get caught, but you're stronger than the police, and they fail to enforce any consequences on you, the thing you stole is yours.

If you are not strong or smart enough to keep the thing you've stolen, then your comparison doesn't work.

And what exactly would be wrong with Whites advocating for their own group interests, just like every other group in society does?

Well it's good that you at least admit your point of view, and that there's no moral imperative behind bending over backwards to give whites special treatment.

>Live in mud hut
>Can barely feed myself
>Pale man comes to my land
>Tells me to behave and he will give me food, medical car, mass transport, buildings made of stone and electric
>He keeps his word but says I have to act like him or he will punish me for giving me these gifts

Sure is theft. Isn't like the white man considered it his duty to HELP the lesser developed nations or anything.

You're the one who's reaping the benefits of living in the richest, most powerful nation in the history of humanity.
Why don't you donate all of your earthly possessions to the people you stole them from?

This. Like I explained, Survival of the Fittest is the only absolute in nature and in society.

You're actually retarded. In the same way that all people have the right to defend, so do we. The only reason your throwing a tantrum is because you know that if the whites actually DO join forces to defend, you will get btfo. This post of yours is literally nothing. Your argument is trash; you claim we are hypocrites when we aren't, and when I point that out you throw a hissy fit. Accept it; the white world is getting pissed off that we are being invaded, and we are going to defend. If we lose, you get our lands and resources. If we win, you get thrown out or slaughtered in mass, as has happened in literally every single war that has ever existed or will ever exist. You're just upset because you know that if whites do ever unite, you will not win because we're so much better than you. But that doesn't matter, this is how war works. There is no hypocrisy here, so your original thesis of "we're hypocrites" makes you retarded.

Oh we definitely caused the plight of the aboriginals here. We introduced them to alcohol and welfare, took their children away, enslaved a great deal of them, and now they're almost completely crippled as a race. And we actually wiped out all Aboriginals on the island of Tasmania. Should we be ashamed of it? Fuck no, look how fucking good this country is.

So it's okay if muslims take over Europe, right?

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy. Don't ever scream about theft ever again.

>National-Socialist
Again. Not talking about NatSocs. There are almost none of those on Sup Forums or in America. Only liars and retards who don't know what the word means.

>the Jew's reign of terror
If you think whites are going to overthrow jews, I have some bad fucking news for you. No race has ever been more buddy-buddy with kikes.

>Theft is wrong
>Except when I do it!

>In-group/out-group dynamics
Yeah it's just called hypocrisy. You can dress it up in any fancy words you want. But that's all it will ever be. If that's what you cared about, you wouldn't lie so much about it in public and use code.

So the West belongs to Mexicans and muslims. Bye!

That's not even the argument. You're just fucking liars complaing about other people "stealing" from you, after you got done bragging about how much you stole from others.

Then stop bitching about people "stealing" from you.

So what you're saying is Europe belongs to muslims and jews by right of conquest. Good we got that clear.

>Neo-Nazi

Pretty much everyone other than a retard knows that conquering someone is very different than laws that the conquering society apply to itself

>Every one who believes in national socialism is an American
Great argument you got their

i dont want special treatment, I don't want to be forced to suck minority cock. I've been told racist shit in my life for being white. I grew up and was brainwashed by school to be a liberal and tolerant faggot and when I hear things like "you can't be racist against white people" it only brought me more to the right and hated non-whites. The only reason I'm a borderline actual Nazi now is because of you fuckers. Identity politics and hypocrisy from your end. Try being Polish, where your family was literally executed by real Nazis, and get told by faggot communists at your university that "your people had slaves, and you're a fascist Nazi". Fuck out of here

i dont think any neonazi has a problem ideologically with another race killing them and taking their stuff.

adolf hitler even though upset at losing recognized that the russians won and rightfully would rule

>neonazis are Nazis
Great country you got there. Poo in the fucking loo.

It is an argument though. Groups are allowed to advocate for the own interests, period. Read what said.

What does "okay" mean, in this context? Two people, or two groups of people, want the same thing. They have a conflict. One side wins. That's it.

Of course EVERYONE would "have a problem" with somebody stealing their money, possessions, land, etc. But if you don't have the strength or will to defend yourself, the world just won't care if you feel bad or not. If someone tries to steal from me, I'll do everything in my power to prevent, stop, or punish it, and I would expect exactly the same if I tried to steal from you.

Niggers,

>we won we took you land
>why would we let shit skins win now?

WE ARE MASTER RACE WE OUTCOMPETE OTHER SPECIES

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>So I can take your things and that's fine, right?
what do you mean by this college fag? are you talking about their countries? because if so people have a right to be mad and fight back with policies and other measures. You're making it sound like we peaceful take turns letting other people invade us which isn't the case at all.

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Not entirely prison. Think more along the lines of a prison farm. The British forced convicts into creating this great nation. And, if they were subservient colonialists, they were rewarded with a small part of the country they helped build. Brutally punished if they resisted though.

It isn't THE argument, you fucking moron. The argument is you assholes keep claiming might makes right, then HYPOCRITICALLY bitch and whine and moan that others are stealing from you. If you really believed what you said you did, you wouldn't be such insane hypocrites about it.

Still no arguments and Rockwell suggested a comprehensive plan for the implementation of national socialism in America look into that

>So what you're saying is Europe belongs to muslims and jews by right of conquest. Good we got that clear.
Europe belongs to whoever claims it.
I'm not leaving this place without a fight.
If Western Europe wants to give it's land away for free then it's their choice.

why are liberals fucking retards.

Neonazis are not Nazis, you god damned idiot poo-brain.

no OP you are missing the point. neo nazis arent mad at minorities for taking their stuff, they are mad at liberal cucks for giving away their stuff without a fight. its completely coherent.

they can makes rights to land they have control over and get mad and fight back when it's being taken over

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There is nothing hypocritical about advancing your own group interests you fucking idiot. Jews, blacks, muslims, whites... we all have a right to do it.

>i herd there were nazis on Sup Forums from reddit and CNN

Funny, if it were "without a fight" then why are they bitching so much? You're not going to worm out of this hypocrisy. If you believe might makes right and you lose, deal with it. Stop making fucking excuses and whining.

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>I don't want to be forced to suck minority cock
>there are only two choices: give whites special treatment or give browns special treatment

they are bitching because whites arent fighting, what dont you understand? the issue here isnt that minorities are more powerful, its that whites are simply not doing anything to defend themselves

so are you saying that you are forcefully try and take what is mine? that's grounds for a fight, my friend, may the better man live.

>I killed the natives

fucking anglos lmao

Liberals just want to be told how they're supposed to think and behave. They don't understand or won't accept that the world just runs on chaos and conflict. "Rule-breaking" and hypocrisy freak them out and short-circuit their logic.

If you try to explain this to them, they usually just go full dark-side like "WELL IF THAT'S TRUE THEN I GUESS I SHOULD JUST MURDER & STEAL," and then their dumb ass is in jail within a month, and they're just stuck sitting in a cell thinking "b-but I thought there were no rules?"

White mans destiny to conquer the world dawg.

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What the fuck are you talking about. Yes, we are mad that right now it seems like we're losing, but we aren't claiming that they don't have the right to attempt to steal from us, we are claiming that we are going to use OUR right to defend against it. Of course a group can from a military and attack some people to take from them if they want; it's called conquering, and it's happened by every single people throughout history. There is no hypocrisy. If they win, they get our shit. If they lose, they don't. It's fucking simple as hell. I thought you were retarded but now I see you are purposefully baiting. Touche.

Oh so what is the (((difference)))

OH NO! Poor boy-rapiing Milo and psycho-trool Ann Cunter! They're so innocent!

>Ben Garrison
>Not just another deranged sub-intellectual
Pick just one.

That's because they're too busy fucking whining. If people want to give things to others, who the fuck are you to say they can't? If they have the strength to do things you don't like, deal with it you little bitches.

>who the fuck are you to say they can't?
part of the cultural group thats going to suffer because of it, im perfectly within my rights to complain about things that affect me deeply

Why is it okay for Muslims to have done it to us for 1400 years but not okay for us to have made conquests for 1/3rd that time? If you truly believe what you claim to, you should be coming down 3x as hard on Muslims.

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Inb4 you guys just say that to everyone you disagree with. I replied to your claims and you haven't responded to them

Neonazi is just another word for reaganite. They're not even remotely Nazi. They're just racist capitalists.

>muh land
No one wants the land, they want the societies we built. You don't live in a hijacked Amerindian society, you live in a European society. That's what people are coming for, not the arable land or the weather.

When you do something to help your people at the expense of other peoples, you are a hero to your people, and a villain to the other. What is hard to understand? Life is a game, a constant struggle for dominance and ultimate victory.

>Do you think if Montezuma had an army full of muskets and horses and boats he wouldn't try to go and conquer other parts of the world?
>mfw

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>part of the cultural group thats going to suffer because of it
And? What part of might makes right works both ways, are you idiots not getting?

>conquer place
>turn it into world superpower
>defend it

It's a matter of competing interests.

Why would you expect anyone NOT to bitch and moan about this? That, also, is a natural part of the process. Native Americans are still holding a grudge, African-Americans are still mad about slavery. Nobody's expecting the losing party not to have any feelings. It's just that feelings don't overpower strength.

Your ideas of "hypocrisy," about what is or is not "okay," are rooted in an idea that the human race runs on rules & morals. That has never been the case. Whatever rules/laws exist are the ones that can be enforced upon us by a government/force stronger than ourselves. And people still break them, and get away with it, all the fucking time.

We never truly exterminated them (though I wish we had). We just took their territory and retained their population out of pity.

Native Americans were able to live alongside the European pioneers just fine. There were only problems when the natives tried attacking the colonies, possibly due to thinking they'd be a bunch of push overs.

Ok now you're making it obvious that you're a troll.

Nazi capitalist lol Capitalism is jewish you retard. National Socialist get it right for your class.

>Why would you expect anyone NOT to bitch and moan about this?
Because you CLAIM to believe in might makes right.

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The Europeans didn't kill the natives though you retard. And if you don't like America and its history, fuck off to Africa or India? It's extremely hypocritical of you to occupy land you consider stolen.

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>Neonazis aren't racist capitalists
Yes, they're multicultural socialists, right?

So why can't white people have grudges against Muslims for enslaving Europeans and repeatedly slaughtering and committing genocide against entire populations? If black people believe they were a part of Umayyads then whites can also call a longer blood feud on blacks. This "grudge" game never ends. I'll admit, what we did to Native Americans I'd take back any day if I could place it on NIGGERS.

It's more like "over my dead body"

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our cultural group is not exercising might. all "neo nazis" want is for them to exercise it and compete in a contest of might, which they so far refuse to do and allow themselves to be conquered instead. there is no hypocrisy here

>Say something glaringly obvious
>nu/pol/: "This is bait"

You can take things by force, but why would you expect the current inhabitants to roll over and take it, dummy? Moral arguments are just shit to be fed to the public to motivate them. We all know the reality of the situation is based entirely on human instincts of tribalism and survival. Strip all the bullshit away and it's a war without weapons, plain and simple.