The libertarian and green parties are a suicide net preventing disenfranchised Republicans and Democrats from discovering the truth of Georgism
The libertarian and green parties are a suicide net preventing disenfranchised Republicans and Democrats from...
Jacob Taylor
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Anthony Mitchell
Why cant you figure it out Sup Forums?
Robert Wood
The equal right of all men to the use of land is as clear as their equal right to breathe the air—it is a right proclaimed by the fact of their existence. For we cannot suppose that some men have a right to be in this world and others no right
Evan Murphy
Place one hundred men on an island from which there is no escape, and whether you make one of these men the absolute owner of the other ninety-nine, or the absolute owner of the soil of the island, will make no difference either to him or to them. It was not nobility that gave land, but the possession of land that gave nobility. . . .
Brayden Foster
wtf i hate property now!
Justin Torres
Georgism is a defense of capitalism and can fix it its flaw
What you are taught as "capitalism" results in inequality and inefficiency because it lacks a theory to manage common resources. It doesn't even recognize that there is such a thing as common resources. Georgism corrects this flaw by not only recognizing common resources like land, minerals, water, fish stocks as such, but adds that by managing these resources with user fees, you can get rid of all other taxation and remove impediments to economic development. So under Georgism, regular folk are mostly taxed in proportion to the value of any land they may possess. The vast majority of people would pay a lot less than they currently pay in income, payroll and consumption taxes, but absentee landlords would pay a lot more, and the mortgage business of banks would be an order of magnitude smaller, because land taxes cancel the benefits of homeownership as an investment. The system also discourages the inefficient use of land, controlling sprawl and inefficient farming practices. Housing and transportation costs would be greatly reduced, thus allowing for a greater equality of opportunity. A Universal basic income (UBI) could provide for those unable to work.
Cooper Reed
>Nobel Prize winning economist Milton Friedman has written:
>Land should be taxed as much as possible, and improvements as little as possible.
>In an interview in Human Events, November 18, 1979, Milton Friedman said:
"There's a sense in which all taxes are antagonistic to free enterprise -- and yet we need taxes. ...So the question is, which are the least bad taxes? In my opinion the least bad tax is the property tax on the unimproved value of land, the Henry George argument of many, many years ago."
Leo Peterson
Tell that to someone who's willing to use violence to take the land you're on.
Isaac Bell
Capital can be produced by private effort. Land cannot be produced, but can only be acquired. Therefore the return on capital can be justified as an incentive for private effort, while the return on land (properly called economic rent) cannot.
Jeremiah Murphy
no place for hoppeian quackery here
Kayden Campbell
Sorry man. Equal rights are a delusion. The only law is the law of the jungle.
Noah Gonzalez
Apparently no place for making an argument either. Also, what happens to the last vestige of the white race, the subsistence farmer?
Carter Nelson
>subsistence farmer
Well he would only be taxed on the value of the land he owned. All of his improvements would be tax free. All the excess food he sells would go untaxed.
Of course he would have to be efficient in his farming practice to avoid paying a high land fee. But if hes off innnawoods his land isn't worth much to begin with. So ultimately he would do better under a Georgist system than the current one
Jaxson Martin
What determines land value? Farming for a large family takes around 10 acres, I think. How much would that cost?
Jason Gonzalez
Would really depend on where and remember it would replace ALL other taxes
Chase Myers
You could also check this out from people far smarter than myself
Wouldn't the LVT hurt farmers?
No, it would help farmers. In the first place, the LVT would fall primarily on urban land, not rural land, since land values are concentrated primarily in urban areas. In the second place, the increased cost of paying a higher tax on land value would be more than offset by (1) the savings incurred from paying lower taxes on everything else, (2) the reversal of urban sprawl (and thus of the inflationary pressure that sprawl currently imposes on the value of farmland), and (3) the increase in income that would result from both a higher margin of production and a surge in overall economic activity.
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Aaron Robinson
>tfw too much of a brainlet to understand Georgism
Jason Thompson
Mason Lewis
there is nothing wrong with taxes.
Jack Perry
>mfw I've recently developed a similar stance without ever having heard of this particular philosophy
It makes sense. The state's legitimate purpose should be the defense of territorial integrity and the guarantee of legal rights of citizens within their territory. To pay for this, they should rent out their land through land/property tax and abolish all other forms of taxation as they are illegitimate
Joseph Ortiz
Im advocating a land value tax.
the picture in OP is to point out the retardation of right wing and socialist thinking
Parker Smith
there is nothing wrong with land taxes
there is something wrong with most other forms of taxation though
Grayson Clark
Look into Henry George. He thought this up nearly 100 years ago and was an extremely popular philosopher that rivaled Marx in his day. His ideas were so dangerous to tptb that they developed an entirely new kind of economics to shut him down and have lived rent free in everyone's mind ever since
Chase Barnes
>its hard for me to get it so you shouldn't be able to have it
Spiteful people are the worst.
>just because your family helped to establish this nation that I want to live in 200 years ago doesnt mean you should be compensated for me wanting to live on it today
They would rather nobody own anything and everybody just rent their existence like Americans buying property in Mexico but they don't give a shit that they give all their money to immigrant owned gas stations and convenience stores when they can pass it on through the family every few years to avoid paying taxes.
Oliver Hill
that's a nice strawman user
Jace Morgan
Self ownership is the key to property rights not land silly boy
Tell me do you think it would be right to sell and bottle air if it could be done? Would that be a legitimate business? Is monarchy legitimate?
"Though the earth, and all inferior creatures be common to all men, yet every man has a property in his own person. This nobody has any right to but himself." -- John Locke, 2nd Treatise of Government, Ch. 5
"The property which every man has in his own labour, as it is the original foundation of all other property, so it is the most sacred and inviolable." -- Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations, Bk 1, Ch. 10, Pt 2
"The property rights that each citizen has in himself are the foundation of a free society." -- James Bovard, Freedom In Chains, p. 86
Josiah Williams
the state is not someone's property
also thisyou just need them to access public services
Oliver Adams
this is an argument for taxes i used that picture as most here lean right and it points out the absurdity of the taxation in theft meme
Jaxson Powell
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Jason Collins
Nice mental gymnastic. Then, if we follow your logic, you agree with Chinese buying real state at Canada?