And your country might be too. Have a read and tell me if it sounds like your country. These are the 10 planks of the communist manifesto, which marx talked about as being CRUCIAL to taking over the country.
>2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
In 1942, to help fund World War II, the federal government took over the raising of all income tax, combined with various State income taxes. This was one of the first planks of the communist manifesto installed by the Marxist agenda in Australia many decades ago. These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the Australian economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.
Furthermore, a quick breakdown of the country's expenditure will tell a tale of how these taxes are not building roads, hospitals or schools but rather an endless army of bureaucrats which are used to impose upon and regulate every facet of your day to day life. Every bureaucrat added requires a salary which is paid for with your tax dollars and contributing nothing of material worth to the country other than implementing a Kafkaesque nightmare that grows every single year.
Tax is being used to construct a larger and larger dystopian government, rather than building up the country. The first step to fixing this nightmare is to reduce taxes and the size of government. Any expansion of govt, no matter how idealistic the message it spews, will eventually result in the curtailing of liberties.
>5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
The Reserve Bank of Australia, on 14 January 1960, became the Australian central bank and banknote issuing authority, when the Reserve Bank Act 1959 (23 April 1959) removed the central banking functions from the Commonwealth Bank.
It directly meets the criteria for a "national bank" and politically manipulates interest rates and holding a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in Australia. This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective. Yet, most Australians naively believe the country is far from a Marxist or socialist nation.
This would be a grave error to make. Alongside the ever increasing government bureaucratic nightmare, the fractional reserve banking system allows the manipulation of currency to remove wealth from the country and place it in the hands of a select few. No longer does the country have the right to manage it's own money, but now a private entity with shareholders and operating on the behalf of the American Federal Reserve.
Nathaniel Russell
>6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.
It is no coincidence that punishments for traffic related offenses are so obscenely harsh by comparison to the punishments handed out by our judges for violent crimes such as home invasions. The entire road safety agenda, in concert with the "hoon laws" were enacted as means to increase control over the means of transportation in Australia.
The Kafkaesque nightmare paid for by #2 can be directly witnessed in the licensing and registration system. Endless propaganda is spewed about how you need a license, you need to pay more tax and you need to comply with a litany of regulations to drive on the road "safely". While some of these regulations are reasonable and we could agree with them, many are not and they intentionally are pairing the two together so you either agree with all of them or none. They attempt to silence debate on this issue using these tactics.
You will see propaganda implying that you support dangerous driving if you have a problem with the obscene police powers requiring no suspicion of a crime to stop and search you, a law abiding citizen. As you may be aware, these laws have fed into massive police corruption as the onus of guilt has now been reversed and you must prove your innocence.
Of course, when you dig into where the government is basing its road safety agenda on, you will notice that all their studies stem from a single research arm (MUARC). Dig a little more and you will find out MUARC depends on government funding to stay open and thus does not qualify as impartial research and is incredibly biased. "Evidence" indeed.
Wyatt Jones
>(2/2) #6 monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/214401/miri2013.pdf Note on page 8 how MUARC recieves grants from NHMRC and on page 9 how they recieved a ARC LEIF grant. Both are government agencies supplying funding indirectly so as not to rouse suspicion. Your tax dollars are being used to pay for falsified research, used to enable an agenda which punishes law abiding citizens and ignores the dangerous drivers.
If they actually cared about road safety, they would have listened to the german researchers telling them that people watching their speedos and not the road are dangerous. Or taken the hint about how better driver education saves more lives than a speed camera ever will.
But do not make the mistake of assuming they care about road safety, or even the mistake of calling this "revenue raising". While it does generate revenue, the real goal here is utter control over transportation and thus freedom of movement.
William Cruz
Please tell me if you cunts enjoyed this and i can go into more detail and do some of the other planks.
I'm betting a lot of our countries are infected with the same marxist bullshit that's wormed its way in
Cameron Robinson
Fug
Liam Jackson
sound familiar burger? i know they've implemented a lot of these in your country too
thanks for the bump
Angel Myers
>5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. basically every out there, except for north korea, and i think cuba. before the middle east stuff some countries over there had no central bank.
Levi Powell
Yep, it's right there in black and white in the communist manifesto.
Adam Gomez
>Melb is infested with self-proclaimed Marxists >everything related to road and traffic research, which in turn shapes how the rest of Australia follows in terms of road-related legislation, comes from the Melbourne-based commie-infested Monash Uni
Fuck. We're infested.
Nicholas Torres
explain your pic. are they traps? underage?
Brayden Richardson
it's not just melb, i have a lot more if cunts are interested.
sydney is spewing out some nasty shit too.
the whole of straya is infected, it's not just melb.
you only see the trannies in melb but not the marxist policies all over the country.
Haven't seen anything in canberra yet, thank god inb4 "Canberra isn't the real capital"
Xavier Miller
>35+ years of neoliberalism and Friedmanite monetary policy in the West >thinks this is "marxism"
Read a fucking book you clueless cumbubble
Isaiah Bailey
this is australia wide, it's only getting worse.
we must all come together and stop bantering eachother and fight to remove this shit.
look at the road safety agenda. it's spread from just vic to every state.
look at commie plank number 10 and shit fucking bricks, this shit is spreading and we have to act now.
where the fuck do you think they got their inspiration?
the kikes involved in marxism were also involved in financial policy. liberals love marxism.
this all stems from the communist manifesto, clear as fucking day once you read the 10 planks.
Ryan Davis
you too:
Noah Lee
>look at the road safety agenda. it's spread from just vic to every state. i can't even drive down to coles without being clocked by two speed cameras and potentially pulled over by an unmarked car, and i'm in nsw. their bullshit clearly isn't working since there are already tons of dangerous cunts on the road.
Jonathan Young
The real question, though, is why rates of autism are increasing so much in Australia. What is in the water?
Jack Cruz
Yep, read point number 6 and you will understand it more. It's not about safety, or revenue.
It's control, they want to control you.
Answer for that is a combined series of factors ranging from age of consent, society viewing anyone who has sex with a young girl (16+) as a pedo and the fact its impossible to raise a family as a young person now.....
This all results in one thing. Women have babies later.
What happens when a woman has a baby later? Each year she's older, the chance for birth defects and autism more than doubles.
Don't doubt there's also shit in the water of course, but look at the average age women give birth here. It's not normal.
Christian Nguyen
They're so skinny it's gross :/
Isaiah Thomas
for a small city Canberra is infested with speed cameras, it is honestly so fucking stupid. What next, small rural towns getting the same treatment? Look at how stupid one part of this shitty agenda is.
Josiah Harris
>This all results in one thing. Women have babies later. Jesus, dude. I'm not looking for an actual attempt at an explanation. I'm just wondering why you're so autistic. You're explained it pretty well, I think.
Isaiah Wilson
you must be fatty mcfat
Joseph Barnes
Noice shitpost cunt
Joshua Sanchez
Yep. Read 6 quite clearly m8 and share it with your friends.
Road safety is not about road safety, or even revenue raising. It's about control and we really need to nip it in the bud.
The laws are already outrageous and encourage corruption, your car being seized and the worst part is this is without a judge's approval.
This happens BEFORE you are convicted.
Luis Nelson
OP I was in your old thread, I even still have it up lmao
OP is a fucking patriot, true aussie, would take a bullet for.
Isaiah Diaz
not communist enough more like it
>30 biggest corporations pay no tax >(((liberals))) want to give 1 BILLION to poo in loo miner cunt >shit public infastructure and public transport >negative gearing and capital gains tax exist only for the rich
guillotine when?
Dylan Collins
Thanks m8, we're still trying to fight the nanny state agenda.
Most people see it as an annoyance, but it's actually what's enabling all sorts of horrors to take hold in this country, from safeschools to immigrants.
None of that shit would be possible without the massive govt.
Actually it's very communist. The ruling class is always exempt from what the population experiences.
Instead of people, now it's corporations.
Anyway, we need to fucking reduce taxes. Because taxes are not paying for improving the country, they're paying for more govt and more corruption.
Angel Taylor
You realise that bureaucracy existed before communism, right?
Adrian Young
Yes, but it has been refined, perfected and is being used for an agenda.
These ideas have been taken by marxists and those pulling their strings and are being used to seize control of the country.
Jaxon Thompson
then the correct word for it would be oligarchy or corporatocracy or something like that, not communism.
yeah, taxes need to be reduced for the middle class but increased for the major corporations and miners.
Liam Thomas
I still think this is the best country to live in at the current time.
Besides Melbourne and Sydney which is like every other western city besides not as many niggers the rest of Australia is pretty nice.
Eli Roberts
If that's what communism is then I'm happy Australia is communist.
I doubt the communists would be happy with it though.
Levi Gonzalez
We're also the most surveillanced state in the world. United States use us as a testing platform for psyop projects. MKULTRA was first trialed in suburban Australia.
Dylan Cruz
i agree, i just wanted to highlight how taxes directly fuel big govt which needs more taxes.
it gets out of control.
australia is a wonderful country and i love it, but it's slowly getting worse.
if we don't see the danger and keep being apathetic it won't remain this way.
i know people who escaped the commie blocs in east germany and came here who are worried about the direction we're going.
just because you are not personally being affected right now does not mean you won't be in the future.
Jason Torres
You got sauce on the ladybois?
Mason Peterson
>We're also the most surveillanced state in the world.
that's britain actually i think
>United States use us as a testing platform for psyop projects. MKULTRA was first trialed in suburban Australia.
[citation needed]
Christian Campbell
bump
Aaron Jones
good thread, keep em comin OP
Robert Diaz
I'll write up explanations with more specifics about where they've been implementing the other planks.
Wyatt Davis
google "The Family", assange and bryant were connected to it
Chase Collins
Canada too.
Andrew Parker
um... she'll be right?
Dylan Robinson
yea, you also had plank number 10: safeschools
where a fucking PEDO got put in charge of education.
by forcing every single child to go to school, schools are now not about learning but rather indoctrination.
David Scott
>Heavy income tax >Communist >Centralized Credit >Credit >Communist >Selectively nationalized assets >Communist >All the rest of this shit >Communist
You fucking LARPers. If you actually want to know your enemy, read a book, or lurk leftypol. Jesus you're so fucking dumb.
Joseph Powell
We're just as bad as Britain.
Snowden says Australia watching its citizens ‘all the time,’ >"What this means is they are watching everybody all the time,” the former NSA contractor-turned-whistleblower said. >“They're collecting information and they're just putting it in buckets that they can then search through not only locally, not only in Australia, but they can then share this with foreign intelligences services.” rt.com/news/257193-snowden-australia-surveillance-metadata/
>"We haven't seen new restrictions, new oversight of intelligence services in Australia which are in fact much more unrestrained than they are in the United States despite how dire the situation is there," he says. >"We have seen intelligence services in Australia become worse." m.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/23/snowden_nbn_leaker_raids_a_misuse_of_afp/
Obviously my statement on MKULTRA is just conjecture but would it surprise you given our Alliance to America and the relaxed intelligence laws we get from Britain? If Washington can't fuck with their own citizens thanks to their bill of rights, then they'll turn to the next best thing, a country without constitutional personal liberties that they are incredibly close with. Think about it.
Christopher Myers
found the marxist
we're aware you are being used as puppets, that does not change the fact that these ideas ALL POP UP IN THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.
read your own book.
Alexander Flores
remember last week how the afp officers did not get a warrant for metadata?
wonder how long they've been doing that and just now got caught
Isaiah Stewart
Literally none of them fit a definition presented in the Manifesto. They are socialist, which is a precursor to communism.
Again, read a fucking book.
Make a thread on leftypol even. They'll answer your questions if you're willing to be something other than lazy.
Carter Butler
Michael Badnarik Constitution Class on youtube goes into the planks of the communist manifesto.
Oh, and even as socialist policies, they aren't Marxist socialist policies. The workers have no fucking control of the means of production at all, and our fucking democracy certainly isn't a Leninist vangard party.
Think before you open your stupid mouth so you don't make us look bad.
Nolan Thomas
So you are saying the communist manifesto does not specifically say
>2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. >5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
Interesting, because it does and you're just marxist defense force.
Samuel Cruz
>Make a thread on leftypol even >Literally none of them fit a definition presented in the Manifesto you've just outed yourself as a communist mate, leave.
David Morales
Page and number where it says that developed communism has either of those things, when in reality it actually doesn't have a state.
>Marxist defense force
Suppose I was, you utter vegetable, what would it matter?
Jace Cooper
>There are reasons why we don’t have the same culture of defending civil liberties in courts as America does. Our constitution offers scant protection of human rights, and so we have to be more creative about challenging laws and decision-making. In America, it is easier for an organisation like the ACLU, not directly affected by a case, to make arguments to the court. >These differences don’t insulate Australians from threats to civil liberties. Indeed, without a bill of rights we are even more vulnerable than Americans. And this is an anxious time for civil libertarians. theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/26/can-we-get-an-american-civil-liberties-union-in-australia-please
Just think it's worth sharing this 'thought experiment' if you will, seeing as OPs argument is that Australia acts in quasi-communist agendas. It's all a bit Orwellian, but we were warned..
Grayson Morgan
Literally how have I outed myself? I've probably been on Sup Forums years longer than you, faggot. I'm the only one here doing my due diligence and scouting the ideological competition.
Caleb Brooks
>Page and number where it says that developed communism has either of those things, when in reality it actually doesn't have a state. REAL COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED
fuck off, cunt.
don't try to pretend you're not a communist dipshit.
Jackson Collins
It's funny because anyone can google the 10 planks and see they DIRECTLY come out of the book.
There's no room for interpretation here, carl marx DIRECTLY TALKS about central banking and progressive income tax.
Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable. 1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. 5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. 6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. 8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
bottom of page 26, you vegetable.
right there in black and white
Dylan Ward
What now shitposter?
I have the book right infront of me IRL as well. It's right there in black and white, you filthy fucking communist.
Helicopter ride for you soon enough.
Adrian Diaz
>REAL COMMUNISM HAS NEVER It has. The vangard party was never abolished so we never had developed communism. Real communism HAS been tried in the most real sense possible. Of course Marxist communism was supposed to come about naturally and in a different context to which actual revolutions took place, so it's complicated.
Easton Bell
>i'm not a communist >now let me spew communist propaganda you're not fooling anyone, back to /leftypol/.
Colton Myers
>(((human rights))) >(((civil liberties)))
How about unalienable rights, or the rights of Englishmen?
Luke Mitchell
It doesn't say those are the criterion for communism. Those are just "inroads" that can be applied. They would be the socialist system being applied before the actual onset of communism in Marxist-Leninist theory.
Kevin Roberts
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT PROPAGANDA?
I SAID IT HAS!
YOU PARANOID FUCK!
Grayson Roberts
Are you fucking stupid? Carl marx is literally talking about how the ideal communist society would have these implemented.
I've linked you the book, quit shitposting.
I really hope you're just shitposting and dont actually believe communism works.
Jeremiah Campbell
So it's more not-real-communism that leads to inevitably doomed communism. You slimy cunts are as bad as the Muslims and their religion of peace nonsense.
Nathan Bell
Why are you guys so angry?
Austin Thompson
Fuck I've been noticing a fuckton of Marxist posters around Sydney lately. I'm keeping a cricket bat next to my bed from now on in case of an uprising
Thomas Brown
Why are you shitposting something that is going to ruin this country and bite you in the ass?
There's a time for shitposting and now's not it mate, you'll regret it when you're in a gulag.
Evan Barnes
Their is no dialogue to be had with communists.
Nathan Martin
I'm not saying it works... I'm not a fucking communist...
"The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise all instruments of production in the hands of the State, i.e., of the proletariat organised as the ruling class; and to increase the total productive forces as rapidly as possible. Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production. "
Then the list appears. The list isn't communism. There is no progressive income tax or even really money in developed communism.
Basically what is being said is that more steps need to be taken before what is described in the first paragraph can occur.
Oliver Johnson
so instead of communism, it's the preparation for communism? what's the fucking difference?
Nolan Hughes
I'm not a communist you complete fucking nigger. I'm not saying it ever works, and I'm not a fucking communist. Can you read, you cretin?
Connor Perez
Because we need to be aware of it. People have forgotten what Orwell was trying to tell us and we've become complacent in such an integral part of who we are, which is free people. You can call it shitposting but I call it spreading the message.
William Garcia
See Now read my OP, where i say
>These planks are crucial to taking over your country Sugar coat it all you like, these ideas are communist ones, ruining this country and preparing it for an even worse future.
You know that's the truth.
Oliver Adams
I don't give a fuck about gommies, they should all die, but I've been looking for the pic forever so thx
Nolan Edwards
M8, my entire fucking thread is about more individual freedom and small govt.
A huge difference. It's the crucial feature that time and time again means that communism fails before it even really starts. The vanguard never falls because they never "see it fit" to give up power.
I'd argue that Trotsky was right in that the revolution would need to be global for communism to have even a chance. That won't happen. Therefore I don't think communism can work.
Adam Martin
the difference is that during the prep there is no mass exterminations.
Henry Long
I believe the mass genocide starts later on in the prep.
Apparently communists believe that once it's implemented there won't be any purges KEK
David Sanchez
I honestly don't believe minor socialist policies are leading to communism.
In fact, Marx said that the proletariat need arms. And they do need arms for a revolution. Our country has very tight restrictions on arms. There is no political route to communism in this country. Everything you see is just subjugation by corporatism interests as well as globalist influence.
Our country is ill, but you are looking at the wrong source.
Daniel Price
That's probably the least crucial difference. They are entirely different political frameworks.
Angel Jones
who are these girls? i would lick their legs up and down and put babies in them.
Gavin Jenkins
I'm saying they are ideas lifted from the communist manifesto, which they are.
This is where they are getting inspiration from, how the soviets used to control the eastern european states.
Xavier Moore
Then I totally agree with you. I don't know why you're trying to argue with me.
Jace White
THAT SCAFFOLDING IS NOT UP TO CODE.
Jonathan Morgan
awesome, so now instead of the preparation for a communist state, we have the preparation for a dictatorship that passes itself off as communist, which coincidentally is exactly what people mean when they say "communist", and exactly why people hate commies?
fuck off.
Nolan Cooper
there are two kinds of communists.
revolutionaries and statists
The revolutionaries tear down the old system The statists murder the revolutionaries to prevent takebacks then the statists scapegoat and purge entire demographics.
That's probably the one greatest difference between communism and capitalism.
capitalism shits in someone else's yard, communism shits in its own yard.
Caleb Robinson
>I'm saying they are ideas lifted from the communist manifesto, which they are.
You might be right... I don't honestly believe they were inspired by it though. I think government ownership of certain very specific, very select assets is just something governments do. I also think that centralized control of credit is a standard Jewish trick. The Jew can't survive in fully fledged communism, however it can use it to violently seize power and halt the progress into communism. They are however perfectly content dwelling in capitalism. They are probably better at surviving in capitalism as last time they tried Communism Stalin purged them.
>This is where they are getting inspiration from, how the soviets used to control the eastern european states.
I'm going to argue that there is no connection. First of all, we loose more public assets than we gain when we get liberal governments. Second of all, I don't think soviet policy was really communist towards the end. Luxembourg and Trotsky both agreed that the Soviets turned into an abomination. There is still debate in communist circles as to whether the soviets were actually communist.
I used to be down for the "it wasn't real communism" counter meme, but as it turns out, our opponents aren't 100% retarded, and have a point. I was just as annoyed as you are now, I promise.
Anthony Johnson
if it ends with a group of assholes in control of the country's military then it's the same political system with the exception of who they demonize.
Joseph Adams
My mistake, thought you were a commie and were implying these ideas do not stem from commies.
Do i think these are soviet agents subverting us? No.
These are ordinary australians who listened to commie ideas, think they sound nice and have turned into traitors from within. Most likely they don't even know the ideas are communist, they just like them.
Get what i'm getting at here?
Most people in this country think big govt is the answer to their problems, but they don't see the danger. It creates more problems than it ever solves.
We need small govt.
see above
Jayden Edwards
>awesome, so now instead of the preparation for a communist state, we have the preparation for a dictatorship that passes itself off as communist, which coincidentally is exactly what people mean when they say "communist", and exactly why people hate commies?
Now you're just being an asshole. I'm working with proper definitions, not propaganda. Both sides lied about pretty much fucking everything. You can't expect me to assume you're using the laymen terms. I honestly thought you were smarter than that.
Stop being a cunt and we can actually have a discussion about communism and Australia.
>inb4 ur indoctrinating me
If you aren't weak you'll be fine.
Grayson Garcia
tmow your fucking grass nigger
Julian Wood
>if it ends with a group of assholes in control of the country's military then it's the same political system with the exception of who they demonize.
Indeed. This is a huge part of what commies talk about. They are aware of this.
Bentley Morales
Mowing and yard work are honorable jobs.
Connor Cruz
And to add onto this, it also plays into human nature.
We're at the point in the cycle of nations where we are weak. Good times make weak men.
So our weak men listened to these ideas (originally from real commies) and the ideas got carried away and implemented by non-commies who don't understand where they come from.
That was the point of this thread, to show people how a bunch of laws in our country actually stem directly from communism, without people knowing.
The danger is apathy and ignorance. People keep looking to the govt for the solution, there is only one solution to save this country and that is to reduce the size and power of our govt, which will force our people to become strong again, resulting in them taking action and not laying down to accept unjust laws.
Do you think this is a fair assessment mate?
Ethan Jones
>These are ordinary australians who listened to commie ideas, think they sound nice and have turned into traitors from within aka they fell for the KGB's bullshit, which makes them de-facto communists who need to be slaughtered.
>Stop being a cunt and we can actually have a discussion about communism and Australia. 20% of this country and 95% of the elite are communists (or working for the communists, which makes them communists), we need to get a contract signed with Sikorsky STAT. anyone who wants to go into all sorts of wishy-washy horseshit with me regarding communism is a communist, and needs to book a tour flight over the GBR. end of story.
