LIBERTARIAN HATE THREAD

Libertarians want the whole world to look like McDonalds: cheap, toxic, and full of loud black people.

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No we don't. we want less corporate control where real Capitalists can participate in the market.Fuck McDonalds.

How do you propose contending with extant corporations when you implement "real capitalism?"

Please do your research.
agorism.info/docs/NewLibertarianManifesto.pdf

>fag in japan accuses others of being masochists

100 percent of things that happen off my property and to people who aren't me do not matter. there is literally no way to refute this.

the libertarian ideal is for there to be 10 competing independent burger shops that are both cheaper and better tasting than McD's, and the most polite people surviving to the next generation.

possible? unlikely but it's closer to what libs want

By innovating, you fucking nip.

Counter economy and this and this.

the whole reason that monopolies formed in america is because of fucking shitty governemnt in the pocket's of those companies to make awful protectionist policies you fucking WHORE

Exactly. For example The fed and The Various cuck Bankers.

don't even completely agree with libertarianism, but this.

Why isn't McDonalds' market dominance proof that they *are* the optimal balance between price, taste, and ambiance as things stand?

Did they secretly lobby the state to pass pro-Mickey D's ordinances that crush competition?

This

Well yes and No Macdahnalds is a small link part of a Hudge Corporatist chain .

Because small businesses that would otherwise be able to compete with them have to hire a team of lawyers to cut red tape and deal with regulations instead. Hiring a team of lawyers is no big deal when you're McDonald's which is why they like regulation and red tape.

Right. So now those monopolies have enough capital amassed that they'd remain major field-dominating players even if "true capitalism" were switched on tomorrow. How to you plan to rectify this marriage between state and capital power that you so often scapegoat? You mean you're just going to say "H-heh, well there's nothing we can do about it now. J-just play nice from now on, Google." ?

Well, since they're probably getting a shit ton of subsidies from the government the can't really by free-market can they?

I do agree that normal libertarianism can't prevent the rise of shitty quality industries (that'll be supported by gov't), but libertarianism, when combined with a high IQ population produces the best results. Innovators who produce the best quality for the market, with a high IQ people that demand the best quality, all without the inefficiencies of government. (pretty much Silicon Valley)

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agorism.info/docs/NewLibertarianManifesto.pdf

Any form of libertarianism except libertarian nationalism is cuck tier

Can you point to a concrete regulation that prevents this competition? Or an instance in which McDonald's used litigation to stop another store from selling hamburgers?

Surely it can't be because of economies of scale and wealth perpetuating wealth?

Because small businesses are always more driven and more efficient. Just look at how much the employs don't give a fuck about efficiency in a change restaurants. Small business owners are often driven like crazy and if put on equal footing, they would tear apart change businesses.

This won't happen overnight though, but it will happen.

That's real?I always thought it was a may may.

>live in libertarian utopia
>wake up
>have no internet because DARPA was never funded and it wasn't developed
>eat my breakfast
>hope I don't die of heavy metal poisoning because they're no regulations on food safety
>walk outside
>get in my car
> hope i don't get hit because there are no regulation requiring airbags or seat-belts
>driving along the dirt path to my job at megacorp because there are no roads
>work for 9 hours with a 15 minute break break to eat my hopefully toxin free food
>go out to parking lot
>car not there
>call up the private police corporation
>"please note you will be charge 19.95 for this call"
>they give me a quote for 1000$ to investigate my car being stolen
>only make 800$ a month because no labor laws
>politely decline
>walking home
>get stabbed for my shoes
>nearby police contractor can't interfere, because i dont have coverage with their company
>die of internal bleeding
>megacorp inherits my house because that's what my employment contract said in fine print

such is life in libertarian paradise

Like a $400 juicer that cost $120 million to make?

Fuck *chain businesses
>been up a while

So you're NatSoc. Thanks clearing it up.

You're suggesting that a small employer can negotiate a better price on ground beef than McDonald's can? Where does this purchasing power come from? Gumption?

Nope I'm a Agorist.

>What if there are, lets say, a group of people who are off your property but are also plotting to invade your property and destroy everything on it?

there used to be a time (not so long ago) when libcucks got openly ridiculed on this board due to their naive and childish ideology. Nowadays there are actually cowards and traitors who unironically fell for all the libertarian & ancap shitposting. A borderless region without representation nor law and order yet with a strong equality system (every is free and can do wathever they want as long as they doesn't violate muh NAP) is a kike + negro dream

There is no way to prove that these things wouldn't exist if our society was different. You are arguing a logical fallacy.
>The internet makes massive amounts of money so I'd imagine that those "greedy" people in a free market would have invented it because they are chasing profit.

no one will fucking buy that shit since they know it's a piece of shit. And no one's creating a monopoly on it.

delet this

>Libertarians want the whole world to look like McDonalds

Sociologists have already noted this:

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonaldization

You are an utter fucking newfaggot. Sup Forums possessed a vast libertarian majority up until 2015 when Donald Trump started speaking out against political correctness which Sup Forums ate up; most users felt like Rand didn't go far enough but the board would shill hard for Rand up until Donald Trump announced his presidency. You can be libertarian and still name the Jew. The board did it all of the time before you newfags came.

Fuck off Cunt the Libertarian/anarchist thing started On Sup Forums in the whole anonymous craze Internet privacy anti-corporate etc...

Yes they can. they can go to the local slauder houses and get meat. You're stuck in the Marxist logic that we've been indoctrinated with. What I'm explaining is reality. Just look at pre-1920s America. For example, look at early car companies. By your logic there should be less when the economy was lass regulated and less controlled.

Stop shilling your bullshit and actually have a conversation.

The socialist really need to go. I despise socialism.

The logic is that no MBA cocksucker would be able to coordinate capital in order to implement a project on the scale of ARPANET, and no shareholders would approve of such a project without a guaranteed return on the investment. The internet essentially created a new commons that enabled unprecedented wealth creation, but it wouldn't necessarily generate a dime for the architect himself.

I'll never understand why so many white people want to be slaves. I guess they think they're gonna be the big tycoon stomping on others instead of the other way around.

>always burgers defending libertarianism
ofc you American racemix muds, niggers and Jews will push your naive and facile ideology. In NatSoc you wouldn't even be considered human. Keep hoping a free non-discriminating open market without borders Jamal because it's not going to happen as long as I live

voluntary socialism really? You decide whether or Not you donate Money or whatever.socialism existed way before marxism fucked shit up.

This is corporatism.

You mean a big business like, say Intel for example, couldn't invent something on the scale of connecting a few computer together to where they can share information? A guy in his garage invented apple computers for fuck sake.

Ah...freedom

Ok. How does a local pork farmer negotiate better prices on animal feed than a factory farm tied into the McDonald's supply chain?

People are naturally attracted To they're own race. mixing won't be a problem in a libertarian/anarchist society

If he can't compete on price he should do so in other ways

reminder that capitalism is anti-traditionalist.
A libertarian may call himself a nationalist but he ultimatly care more about materialistic pleasures like money than he do about his people.
Capitalism equals globalism and progressivism.
Capitalism kill local cultures and replace it with soulless consumerism.
It killed the traditional family and replaced it with the nuckear family and then replaced the nuclear family with the degeneracy today.
many such chases.
Libertarians are worse then commies because atleast commies are atleast honest about wanting to destroy society

There would be roads and emergency services. Libertarianism doesn't mean Mad-Max you fucking retard.

Sup Forums unwittingly engages in libritarinism all the time. Volenteerism is a big part of libritarianism.

replace capitalism with corporatism

You got caught red-handed lying Eurocuck.
Libertarians is not a new ideology on Sup Forums

lolbertarians in charge of economies of scale

Sup Forums is where the POLITICALLY INCORRECT opinions go. When an idea becomes mainstream, the containment board is neither required nor necessary.

>(((Capitalists)))

>This is corporatism.
...which is what happens when the 1% use their largess to buy legislators and get laws passed that favor them and their interests alone. Exactly the kind of system we have now, and exactly the kind of system which would become exponentially worse if the libertarians ever got into power.

There was always a strong Natsoc presence here but libertarians outnumbered them bigly. Being a libertarian =/= being politically correct. /new/ and Sup Forums was always redpilled on the Jew (until the_donald neo-cons took over) regardless of whether you were a libertarian or national socialist. If you don't remember when this board circlejerked about Ron Paul and Rand then you are fucking new. I don't even see Ron Paul memes posted anymore because this place is 100% newfag cancer.

That's called forming a group and working towards a mutual goal. Voluntary socialism is retarded and will ether become capitalism with charities or something worse like state socialism.

>mixing won't be a problem in a libertarian/anarchist society
don't be so naive, niggers and kikes will come en masse as soon as you abolish borders and declare every one free+equal (as long as they follow the NAP)

Muh Roads!

The u.s isnt capitalist because the state exists.

>care more about materialistic pleasures like money than he do about his people.
I don't give a fuck about "muh people" or muh white race, I want to take care of my own shit and that's it.

READ MY POSTS RETARD BEFORE REPLYING
there have always been libcuck shitposters

Learn what Libertarianism is.

Same.

nope corporatism isn't the same as corporations runing government.
corporatism is often confuced with corporatocracy
corporatism is supossed to unite all the nations classes. fascism for example is corporatist

((Socialism)))((Communism))

All of that's a result of government interference

>FUCK WHITE PEOPLE MUH INVIDUAL RIGHTS!
(((libetarians)))

Explain.

Laissez faire, not corporatocracy, ok

>"when libcucks got openly ridiculed on this board due to their naive and childish ideology."
I don't know why you're projecting this hard.

Voluntary socialism and capitalism exist simultaneously cuck. > Private charities

yes atleast your honest about it. i just can't stand so called "national libertarians/national-capitalists"

Libertarians are retards

And our government GDP accounts for more then 50% of our economy retard. We have less obvious version of socialism.

>take no interest in anybody, they can take care of themselves
Fixed

I'm for the abolishment of welfare and the reduction of government power but I don't want open borders. Am I a libertarian?

you learn what it is mate, Hoppe has been trying his entire life to solve this problem (and he has only partly found somewhat of a solution)

oK fine corporatocracy Fascism is a meme anyway.

>muh big gubmint
Damn I wish they still taught history and civics in the schools.

Lolberts BTFO

Leaning that way, you don't need open borders to be libertarian

I care about my people which is why I advocate what history has shown to be the best economic system by far. I don't want my people to starve to death.

Would it be in Intel's (IBM would be a better historical choice btw) interest to ensure their protocol accommodated competing hardware? How would they sell such an undertaking to their shareholders?

It's difficult to argue counter-historically because the emergence of the web and free software have impressed upon corporate players the importance of these commons (since that is where so much of their wealth now comes from) but the logic was much harder to come by in an era where a computer was a machine just like a tractor, and the companies that manufactured them were essentially advanced tractor plants. It took agencies divorced from quarterly earnings reports to implement this vision.

I agree, but on Sup Forums itself, this viewpoint no longer requires a single board. Rather,this viewpoint is common amongst most, making a discussion on any board viable. Whereas the discussion on Sup Forums or even /leftypol/ require a board to gain traction.

because the Government Holds a Monopoly over the majority of the Market it is manipulated by special interests meaning the market isn't free,

>free trade
>open borders
>muh corporations did do nuffin
>degeneracy
>child molestations
>muh profits
>no traditional values
>shekels
Libertarians are just liberals who love money

Most of the lolberts and ancraps are migrants from donald that have read solely kike literature and so when they her esoteric arguments from the likes of Evola they sperg out and literally act like children. They are just as subversive as globalist communists or global crapatalists

A Hoppean libertarian most likely.

Yeah your right on the borderline between conservative and libertarian.

>Libertarians are from r/thedonald
the state of you.

Juden are you acting like a retarded fag on purpose or what

libertarianism is a meme and has always been one

B B BUT THAT WILL BREAK MY NAP AND WILL NEVER HAPPEN

>Gets invaded by China who liberate his child sex slaves

Yet you have no problem with your people dying all across America due to lack of health care

Child sex slaves can't exist Because of the nap.

You don't have open borders if you can kick migrants off your property at gun point like you can in capitalism. Libertarinism with open borders is a abomination created by faggot leftest that call themselves "libertarians" because it makes them feel edgy.

Okay, so you hate libertarianism and you want a planned economy to keep the evil rich capitalists in check? So youre a dirty communist? Kill yourself