Nationalist capitalism is better than nationalist socialism

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>capitalists
>not importing cheap labour
>not just caring for profits

lol

>nationalist capitalism
burger imagination truly knows no boundaries

Ofc it is. Even as a pretty big natsoc symphatsizer iam of the opinion ,that libertarianism is the ideal way of life ,but as long as lower lifeforms dont respect your right to live freely you need to fight back ,adn you cant do that alone

anyone disagreeing shoud be helicoptered

National "Socialism" is basically capitalism without (((private banks))) and (((financial institutions)))

What the fuck is National Capitalism?

lmao

>le helicopters xddd

Hitler's version of National Socialism IS National Capitalism though.

Someone needs to herd the sheep or another shepard will herd his and yours.

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I agree with both you namefagetness and your political views. Good job OP

>neetsocs still defending socialism

where?

>Natsoc faggots defending socialism by claiming "it's a different kind of socialism!"
Gee, where have I heard that one before?

I agree OP. All socialists get a heli ride.
Though I'm a nationalistic libertarian capitalist myself.

NatCap is the final red pill IT's a big one, most people choke on it though it's the most based.

Socialism in NatSoc just means a homogeneous white society that works all together as a single unit for the state/country in order to better it. It has nothing to do with leftist/marxist socialism which is redistribution of wealth (IE: everyone is equally poor and degenerate).

>national socialism is basically capitalism but you don't have the freedom to own certain private institutions goy, those belong to the (((government)))

>t. Shlomo

Ignoring the explanations is the same as an atheist saying "show me physical proof of God".

You're being willfully ignorant in order to assert victory.

>white should emulate the fucking borg like the chinks

To deny individualism is denying white culture, GTFO nigger.

>1 post by this id

americans are really fucking stupid

It is though. The actual socialist members got riddled with bullets during the Night of Long Knives.

Yeah cuz he didn't boot out the Rothschild bankers or anything. Hitler had a 99% approval rating.

Inevitably your national capitalist society will need to introduce legislation to protect the interests of the nations members. Ie prohibit use of outside manufacturing etc
As soon as you do this you have National socialism
I know this is bait but I felt obliged
SAGE

Meanwhile, in reality.

>all the fags in this thread that don't know what National Capitalism is

just keep out jews, and forbid companies from participating in foreign affairs, and have companies trade only within the nation, and have 1 state run bank along with a few national-privatized banks

>To deny individualism

It doesn't. Do people in society not have a social duty to be productive members of it?

I see you Rabbi

>>national socialism is basically capitalism but you don't have the freedom to own certain private institutions

Falsehood.

go live on a borg cube and give up your individualism then faggot.

You don't seem very intelligent.

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NATIONALISM AND CAPITALISM
WOW THAT'S ORIGINAL
IT'S NOT LIKE THAT'S THE FOUNDATION OF CONSERVATISM OR ANYTHING

You're playing on words. "socialism" is a word co-opted by the marxists for their ideology. National Socialism was not collectivist.

National central bank > (((International private banks)))

Voluntary strong communities in Ancap > National Capitalism

Capitalism works perfectly fine if you have the right balance of regulation.

>too much regulation and restrict growth, development, creativity, and a fair playing field.
>too little regulation and you open the door to abuses, out of control greed, pollution, cronyism, monopolies, and the like.

Capitalism is the best system out there. We've seen it work in the past before the government start fucking with the balance of regulation.

Socialists, people who achieved nothing in life and want to be proud of other people's achievements.

I have never seen an successful altruistic socialist/communist. They are all losers.

>implying local societies wouldn't already have what's in demand
Unless people start talking about "service economies." Enjoy that aging population.

All it needs is a libertarian split.

Basically an argument that free migration isn't good for local workers? If so you could only play this when there's high unemployment, specifically youth unemployment which could be easily caused by foreign workers with experience out competing new workers. This would be noticeable because there would be extreme brain drain in the host nations, keeping those states relatively under developed.

I wonder who is keeping India poor...

>literally just ignoring reasoned responses and namecalling

You're definitely a leftist.

Most lolberts and ancraps are teenagers so you have to speak to them in easy to understand parlance. No esoteric or philosophical terms and definitely no UNIQUE ideas as you can ONLY be left or right/ commie or capitalist after all

>National Socialism was not collectivist

Do you mean Marxist? It wasn't Marxist but it was certainly collectivist.

So, Fascism.

>hehehe good goy, let the (((state))) control your health care and pensions, no selling those pesky farmlands either, while we in the (((state))) will let you 'control' it, we ultimately control the market so we can't have that. Oh, and don't forget my goyim, those welfare programs are super helpful, so keep those around.
>But don't you fret! The rest is just like capitalism! (except when you work for your own interests that don't align with the (((state))), then we'll take your businesses away)
All socialism is a form of cuckoldry that only goes to show you don't believe you're capable of succeeding without the (((State))) giving you a helping hand.

You don't understand economics, you just want free education, free healthcare, and free money without working for any of it. socialist fucker.

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Rhine capitalism aka Soziale Marktwirtschaft is the best. Nothing is better then that.

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No, fascism is marrying of corporations with the government, so that the government controls them. Nationalist Capitalism is for free markets.

>assertions without evidence

Found a collectivist slave loser cuck who achieved nothing in his life.

Like you're ever going to own a railway anyway, you autist.

>Nationalist capitalism

Yet another retarded forced meme from the arse-end of the internet.

Fuck, this board really SUCKS. After a decade I am ready to call it quits!

Hitler istalled
>free healthcare
>free education
>increased welfare

These things drove the value of the MArk down and killed his economy, why do you think they lost the war, socialism is cancer.

>Yes goy you are a (((complete individual who dont need no people))) you are a blank slate goy with no history culture or lineage. Work selfishly goy and succumb to your every primal desire while i rally the shitskin masses against you goy

Everything in that greentext is how the Nazis worked.
The state controlled health care, pensions, and the agriculture market. There was a significant welfare program in nazi germany, and businesses that did not align with national interests were shut down.

>like you're ever going to own a health insurance agency
>like you're ever going to own a bank
>like you're ever going to want to sell your farm
>like you're ever going to want to sell to other countries

None of these things happened in Nazi Germany. In fact unions were banned and most of the nation was actually privatized while the US and Britain were nationalizing everything.

Railways in America were built by private investors in the 1800s. Stopped happening when the govt decided cars were the way of the future and ruined the environment with their shitty roads everywhere.

Denmark and Norway are best countries for a white man to live. Probably in the history of the world. They have a system called democratic socialism, where the majority of things, except essentials like education and healthcare, are privatised.
Filthy kikes like you are already hard at work to subvert them.

You sound upset. You know how the White collective feels about you i'm sure haha.

>hitler lost the war because the mark got deflated

Unironically off yourself ,i have great sympathy to the libertarian cause ,but fuck off with this nonsense

>assertions without evidence

You're a very dumb person. You're no different from a nigger woman who yells the same phrase 45 times in a row with her eyes closed.

>why do you think they lost the war

Mussolini.

majority white with a significant asian minority nationalist capitalism would be ideal.

Hitler took an economy of runaway inflation doomed to complete colapse and made it one of the strongest in the world in a couple fucking years.

They lost the war because national socialism is a threat to global banks.

democratic socialism, stepping down to let niggers speak.

So pre-WWII Hawaii?

>The state controlled health care, pensions, and the agriculture market

And it worked.

>and businesses that did not align with national interests were shut down.

And you have a problem with that?

Fucking Jew.

Implying they would be in our ideal society lolbert

OP here,
lol love stirring up shit, I have to go to work now, cuz I'm not a neet. you can't steal my money if I don't go and make it.

Everyone defending
>but when your entire population is white welfare works!
such as: is fucking retarded.
Guess what. When everyone is white, ancap works too, but you don't see anyone with an iota of intellect advocating for fucking anarcho capitalism.
Stop being a cuck and defending socialist programs. You can hate jews and dindus while still being for a free market system.

And this is exactly what National Socialism was about. Free-market capitalism with the right amount of juridic restrictions to avoid monopolies, corruption and subvertion of the state with (((lobbies))) as well as banning usury and the jew-owned international banks. You could start your own business more easily than in most modern "capitalist" countries. A concept that the faggots ITT don't understand or don't want to understand.

This. Me too brother.

Good goy

free market is inherently globalistic in nature which is a disaster for freedom, globalism just leads to global totalitarianism.

>When everyone is white, ancap works too,

Please provide a large example of an ancap society that has worked.

Or any at all.

I disagree, capitalism itself necessitates market competition therefore less state involvement, smaller government and therefore a more decentralised or less authoritarian system.

National capitalism would simply be the idea that financial regulations should benefit primarily the local people. People who want that corner up there secretly want to go back to monarchies. People who want the other corner want to be the monarchs, loud screeching people.

I feel this, but not everyone can pay for all their health care but everyone should have the wide array of healthcare. A bad working solution is a fully funded state healthcare system, a better solution is some form of charity but that requires certain kinds of people.

You'll always come back.

capitalism is the pursuit of money and profit at the expense of any native and local population. It's in direct conflict with nationalism.

>You could start your own business more easily than in most modern "capitalist" countries. A concept that the faggots ITT don't understand or don't want to understand.

Because they're no different from leftists.

>fucking ancap
you're a tard. the reason that you need socialism is because free or open markets will be exploited by the juden. peoples' interests will be bought. you not only need strong social programs that disincentivize economic subversion (which is not fucking capitalism you cuck) but also stress the National Idea.

you have a warped view of what the goal of business should be. you have been trained by the Jew and I'm not sure that we shouldn't just gas people who can't see the problem in their thinking, because no doubt some people have been too corrupted by that kind of thinking. capitalism and """business""" and """finanace""" are all based on a globalist, borderless world market where work can be outsourced, manufacturing can be done cheaply overseas, and goods can be imported into a service economy that continues to grow as a distribution network for cheap goods. there is nothing nationalist about it.
>muh own interests
sorry but fixing the west means removing the tumor, and that includes this kind of thinking. here are your new interests: build a strong, White Nation. have children. work in the service of God and Country. and if you want to channel the Eternal Jew, then move the fuck to Israel.

Ahh yes because the Nazi elite were a bunch of angles and didn't use thier powers. fucking moron.

A true Aryan was: blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels, slim like Göring, blue-eyed as Hess, clever as Eva Braun, and his name was Rosenberg. Alfred Rosenberg


Always funny.

Globalism goes to shit when social services are present. In a system without it, there is no incentive for dindus to flood your country, and thus there is no incentive for them to vote for shitty marxist politicians. People however should be free to be nationalistic or globalist if they wish to be, not allowing them to be globalist is thought policing.

Ancap is something that has never really been tried. I don't want to sound like a socialist here, because in all honesty I think it's a stupid system that's far inferior to minarchism (which I still think is pretty bad but not as bad), libertarianism, libertarian capitalism, and capitalism, but a complete stateless solution where people are free to just trade and respect the NAP has never been tried in a white society, and at this point, it never will be because there are no 100% white countries anymore.
But whites would in all likelihood be able to make it work, since they wouldn't go around killing each other and stealing shit.

I'm not an ancap, retard.
Libertarian capitalism > Capitalism > Libertarianism > Mianarchism >>>>>>>> Anarcho Capitalism

I'm just saying that in an all white society, it theoretically could work. Which is unlike Communism, where in an all white society (plus (((them)))) it STILL failed. Social services and welfare are poison to a country, just like alcohol is. You may enjoy a little bit of it, and a little bit won't kill you, but no matter how much you put in your body it's still bad for you.

>Communism is something that has never really been tried

>Capitalism: an idea that enshrines greed as a virtue, encouraging one to put their own economic well being above all other concerns
>in any way compatible with nationalism which holds that the wellbeing of ones nation and people are more important than anything else.

Capitalism is much more than simply the state of not having many economic controls in place. Its an ideology in its own right, much like Marxism entails more than just support for a centralized economy. As an ideology Capitalism espouses its own moral value system that is fundamentally at odds with nationalism.

"National Capitalism" is an oxymoron.

Own business doing what? Depending on what market and what level of that market, you might struggle to source paying clients.

Try to be a small business web designer, every second person is fine with a CMS and everyone else is deep down perfectly okay with just html and JavaScript.

By yourself, especially at a young age, you will get people offering you 20$ and getting you to explain why they need hosting or even a database when .wordpress seems to work. There is no amount of skill that can turn this profitable and there is no way you know who to talk to for 100k contracts.

Through everything from price controls to currency manipulation and even marketing campaigns, no shit rye bread sales increased. It was a working solution, but it wasn't even a good one.

That's because you're 50% non-white.

>I feel this, but not everyone can pay for all their health care but everyone should have the wide array of healthcare. A bad working solution is a fully funded state healthcare system, a better solution is some form of charity but that requires certain kinds of people.
I don't necessarily think that a national health care option that you pay into via an optional tax is a horrible idea, since it would be lower quality for obvious reasons.
But closing the market from other health care options existing is retarded. It's the number one reason why national socialists on this board are simple minded and, just because Hitler hated jews, they all go "wtf I love socialist policies now"

Read the entire post dumbass. I'm not advocating it ever be tried, because there are way better systems. But it hasn't been, because humans naturally drift towards hierarchy, and hierarchy is both more efficient as well as more comfortable for humanity.

Depends what you call a "free market system". I'm all for the lowering of the taxes and market competition but there must be regulations enforced by law to avoid monopolies and lobbyism thus keeping an healthy concurrence going. When only a company or two owns everything, everything goes downhill, and this is what is happening in most western nations. Unregulated anarchy lead to monopoly.

National Socialism preserved the interest of individual businesses more than the modern "capitalist" world.

ohhh so cute, you are just mad because I enjoy my Rhine capitalism while you suck big Paki dick.

Yes, that is where libertarian capitalism draws the line. Anti monopoly regulation and some anti lobbyist regulation.
Libertarianism has a bit less in terms of anti lobbyist, and Minarchy doesn't have the anti monopoly stuff either, which is why I'm a libertarian capitalist.

Government has its uses.
But it's NOT in the realm of (((welfare)))

>implying that capitalism wont always force governments to fuck over nationalists because nationalism is bad for profits
>implying capitalism doesnt love open borders
>implying capitalism wont facilitate easier corruption of politics
>implying capitalism doesnt create class interests and promote them over national ones

Its like you people dont even understand nationalism

>Read the entire post dumbass

I did and it's literally the same as the communists saying "le REAL socialism has never been tried because x y and z."

>I'm not advocating it ever be tried, because there are way better systems. But it hasn't been, because humans naturally drift towards hierarchy, and hierarchy is both more efficient as well as more comfortable for humanity.

Well it's all throughout our history. A leaderless nation is ridiculous. Humans in a large society need to be led. Anyone seriously advocating anarchy has the brain of a low IQ teenager.

This fantasy of "everyone would totally get along perfectly fine and be rational human beings in a completely lawless ancap society because they would own property" is as delusional as the marxists and their "utopia".

Apparently you didn't read what I said.
Because I just told you it's a bad system that would only work under the confines of every single person living in it being white.

There's more muslims there than there is here, you silly dunce.

>Ahh yes because the Nazi elite were a bunch of angles and didn't use thier powers. fucking moron.
what does that have to do with anything? any system can potentially introduce corruption, but no where is that more true than in the system we currently have

>a bunch of holohoax fanfiction
sure thing schlomo
>Libertarian capitalism > Capitalism > Libertarianism > Mianarchism >>>>>>>> Anarcho Capitalism
>muh libertarianism
you realize that the black and yellow flag is ancap, right? that's why the ancap ball is black and yellow. you're like a tumblr degenerate who identifies as a genderfluid demisexual rainbowkin but at the end of the day is just a plain old faggot

LMAO, you sure about that? I have was in London, there is literally Sharia courts and patrols there.

>>implying capitalism doesnt love open borders
Most libertarians (not the lolbertarian shit Gary Johnson started) only think open borders should be a thing after the complete dismantling of all welfare systems, because then you're not going to get a single dindu that wants to come to your country. However, even then most non ancaps still believe in security for immigration so alan snackbars don't come into your country and blow shit up.

>Apparently you didn't read what I said.

Yes I did.

>Because I just told you it's a bad system that would only work under the confines of every single person living in it being white.

Ridiculous.