Le Pen Macron debate

cont from Le Pen embarrasses herself, fumbles around, redditors will shill for her, Macron sounds more and more like a teacher, frenchfags are still asleep, keep womyn out of politics.

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They aren't remotely 'opposed'
They want YOU to oppose each other
while they both work for the same masters
All a game
Better to go outside for a walk

At the end of this election, there will be a woman in power in France, Either Me or Mrs Merkel.

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If someone has one with real subtitles that would be great.

Never trust a woman to do a man's job

Look its the shill. I remember Ebba Akerlund, do you? We must stop Islam at all costs.

sage this thread OP claims he can speak French but in the previous thread it turned out he's some retarded leaf using google translate.

Le Pen was stoned
She didn't even realise she was bad
That was horrendous

I'm pro-FN but she sucked. She acted like a petulant child throughout the debate as some sort of Trump-like strategy but it came off as forced and awkward, like her hysterical female side became dominant, she didn't come off as presidential. Everyone expected Macron to suck because he was the weakest one in a previous debate but he displayed great strategical approach and technical knowledge on economical details, which threw Marine off, his overall behavior also came off as presidential, which is really weird because so far he was the hysterical one during his meetings, typically preaching empty marketing slogans without substance. Marine kept attacking him with weak ad hominems which he deflected with ease, while she didn't effectively put her program and ideas at the center of the debate. On economics, she got destroyed. She only beat him in regards to national security issues. It's really disappointing, because her aggressive strategy was the right idea but she did it all wrong, she should have done it with serious anger instead of her hysterical sarcasm, and pushed him harder on his weaker points.

Fuck, unless the Macron tax evasion scandal is legit and blows up in the upcoming days, or another terrorist attack happens, we're doomed!

She seriously needs to steps down for 2022, the nationalists need a new party with a new name and new leaders; FN and Le Pen names are poison.

fuck off stromae.
wtf, i love bankers now.

>Macron sounds more and more like a teacher
This is a tactic as old as dirt its played condescension and arrogance all for the audience its used literally everywhere hell in austria we call these willfully arrogant condescending show offs always sarcastically "professor".

I'd rather be governed by a kraut than a dumb bitch that don't know the difference between a cellphone and a turbine

tldr
>Not gonna lie, former Le Pen voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching the FN crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let that girl get the nuclear codes.

Wtf I'm pro granny fucker now

Well said

fuck off redditor

The "petulant child" seems to have been the mouth of word passed around by shills, just like "Drumpf" or madam president.

Don't listen to this redditor even the resident genie poster was forced to admit I spoke french. You haven't spoke french once on the other hand, faggot.

Leafs really need to be banned from this board.

After reading the last thread and seeing all the wildly divergent opinions on who "won", I decided to just go watch the damn thing myself since I'm fluent in French. About 20 minutes in and Le Pen is the one making Macron flail around about his dealings in the private sector and his time as Finance minister (even raising his voice). She's doing pretty well so far, from my admittedly biased point of view. Will update once I've finished watching.

Oh I won't resort to childish name-calling in my analysis like Captain Reddit Shareblue over here.

>meme spews
>calls other petulant
let me make it easier

>Fuck, unless the Macron tax evasion scandal is legit and blows up in the upcoming days, or another terrorist attack happens, we're doomed!

Look at how many people voted Fillon and read what you wrote again.

Non mais honnêtement, j'adore Mr.Westmount, c'est vraiment un criss de bon gars sur ce board là.

a fucking leaf

I meant, I've been in another few "Post debate" marine thread, and every shill said the same thing "Marine acted like a kid", "Marine was like a toddler in that debate" "Marine was a petulant child", doesn't take a genius to add up 1 and 2

Leaves, leave.

If you were doing your job and actually telling us what happened in the debate I wouldn't be having to watch this whole thing to do it for you, fucking frog.

Dont tell me what to do

Or maybe because those are just popular opinions about her?

Le pen can't hold a candle against macron, she looks like a petulant and cranky babuska mad at the world.

Why is a "mass migration" macron supporter calling other people redditors?

Cancerous memeing leaf iprange ban when

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she acted like a 14yo teenager

Probably because he is a leaf.

>pic related is a french train.

This tier of shilling is too impotent and trite. Fix it or get out.

you're shilling for Le Pen

>aka the candidate who wants to get rid of this.
So?

Nice.

I still don't understand why does Sup Forums support socialist.

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>believing in micron's lies and psychotic hypocrisy

wow how sheepish of you, but wait you're just a shill anyway, go kill yourself

le baguette

oh la la!

And where exactly was he wrong? I saw the same thing and can confirm.

When will you frogs realize that Le Pens were controlled opposition since they first stepped on the political stage. Their only task is to make sure their opponent wins, and they will come to power only if Macron fucks up big time. Once they do, they will go full 180 on their policies.

Le Pen was absolutely shitty. I feel pretty bad for Dupont-Aignan who ruined his carreer to support her.
I hate Macron but he did infinitely better

Is it shilling if you're not getting paid and you just want to support candidates you agree with?

''Et ils sont là''
''Ils dans les campagnes, dans les villes''
''Ils sont sur les réseaux sociaux''

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

They said the same thing about Trump with Hillary. Pretty often, I think. How did that work out for them?

And they were right. Trump is, in fact, controlled opposition. He broke every promise he could without being overthrown.

Even fights Assad and Putin and supports NATO now.

>Le Pens were controlled opposition since they first stepped

I agree. But all the oppositions of a power had the same statue throw history. It doesn't mean the opposition can't win.

1. They can't win in short term
2. They win, access to the power, nothing change.
3. They try to "do". Get shot.

Le Pen severed his dick off and shit down his throat during the debate.

"Petulant child" Like you just outed yourself as a liberal shill mate.

Whelp, that conversation ended fast. Outed yourself as a nutcase. Next.

>no arguments
Every time. Either explain where I'm wrong or fuck off back to The_Donald.

>Macron sounds more and more like a teacher
He sounded eactly like a medieval king who believe he can do eveything by giving orders and looking angry. Nohing he promise can pass without 49.3 because he doesn't want negotiation, compromise or simply shake hand with poor people.

As opposed to....

crappy trump far better than shitty shillary

She was shit, there were some real cringy moments. Thankfully Macron is the blandest man alive, he's a better looking Jeb!

Well I hope you like the extra large serving of Cultural Enrichment that Merkel has prepared for your anus following the election, Pierre.

looks to me like french screwed with either option, probably more so with macron but schalonged either way.

No one denies this, but if Hillary became president, right wing sentiment would grow immensely after her term. Just like that, if Macron wins and fucks up, he will only strengthen the right, while Le Pen (and possibly Trump) presidency will probably kill the right forever.

>"I'll collaborate!"

Ok pal.

She did really great. stfu shleaf.

if shitting shitty shillary got in:
1. overran nation with illegal aliens who can vote.
2. over-run Texas and Florida, no right wing possible.
3. pack supreme court with with libs, forget rule of court, instead will be rule by the bench!
4. war war war, hello WWIII, with Russia, invasion of syria (trump did targeted strikes, though mcmaster wants more).

to summarise: with shitting shitty shillary, picture brown, pungent and watery shit spluttering against a high revolution fan!

Is this the new "4d chess" meme?
>yeah she did shit but it was all part of the plan

you guys must not be serious...

Anyone who watched the debate will know that Macron is a golden opportunity. He has the character and the ideas to be a great president.
He's not gonna blindly follow US and UK, nor Russian and China. He's really gonna make France great again and give it it's own voice.

On the other hand Marine has absolutely no project and if she was elected, the only thing she would be able to do would be to drive the country into utter chaos and civil war.

I can't vote but I really strive for Macron.

I'm sure he will be the greatest president we had for decades and decades.

Macron will:
>intelligently fight terrorism both in France and outside of France
>distance himself from qatar and saudi arabia
>give more visibility and power to smaller companies
>make the whole system much simpler and rationnal (maybe foreigners don't understand how ridiculously and unnecessarily complex every single thing is in France, there are fucking thousands of different procedures for the most basic things and not everyone has it the same, some kind of jobs have a much better life than others for no apparent reason and we have fucking hundreds of different taxes and shit, he's gonna SIMPLIFY the system which is absolutely needed and fair)
>raise neetbux and help autists (litterally /ourguy/)
>make school great again
>lower taxes for 80% of the population
>I don't remmember all of his propositions but they're all rock solid

Le pen:
>start the fourth reich and watch as the country falls and burns

The only reason I was kind of against Macron before is because I thought he was a regular commie, sucking the dick of terrorists and USA, but he proved everyone he' not. He named the terrorists (and spoke the taboo words of "islamist terrorism", which all the cucks in our country would rather die than be heard pronouncing), he said he would not be best pals with qatar and saudi arabia, and reduce economic partnership with them.

OK this debate is fucking massive and I'll have to keep watching it tomorrow. I can already tell a few things 40 minutes in however:

- Literal kek at the weak ass moderators completely losing control multiple times. They're completely superfluous and they might as well not be there. Also I can tell Le Pen and Macron legitimately hate each other. Pretty entertaining.

- Le Pen is a Nationalist through and through, very consistent with her message. Most importantly: shills making "Le Pen was awful" snipe shitposts are just that, shitposting. If you're a nationalist, there is no way what she said isn't music to your ears. Only annoyance is her not really answering the questions to steer the debate where she wants, but that happens in every single political debate around the world. She comes forth as competent and knows her stuff. She definitely had Macron squirming at a few points.

- Macron is a pro-EU globalist through and through, and is consistent in that message. I can see that all the talk about that wasn't unfounded. He struck me as the typical slick politician, well spoken, centrist, designed to get the most votes. If you're an SJW cuck, what he said is music to your ears though. I can tell he's the pro-establishment guy, and I'm sure French voters can see that too. EU, GLOBALISM, "WELCOMING SOCIETY". Those are his key words. One thing of note, his constant cries of "THAT'S A LIE, LIAR LIAR LIAR" without really saying why makes HIM come off a bit as a petulant child.

So in sum, shills pretending to be pro-FN and saying Le Pen lost the debate are completely full of shit. If you're a nationalist in France, what she said should have pleased you greatly.

Going to watch the rest tomorrow.

cont.

I trust that he is gonna be the best president we have had since Mitterand or even maybe De Gaulle (which he has much more in common with than many would agree).

Go Macron!

>Le pen:
>>start the fourth reich and watch as the country falls and burns
If only
But Malika would never do that

Are you joking or that delluded?

>>make school great again

how? diversity quotas? or by cutting funding to schools

Shill.jpeg

New-worlders are limited

Damn, the "French" shitskins are really pissed off today.

He's gonna focus a lot on primary school (small children) which I think is great and also and more importantly, he's gonna reduce the number of students per classroom to 12 in places where the level is low.
This is really needed I think because in these places where children's parents can't teach them shit and the teachers are depressed because the classroom is a fucking jungle and basically school doesn't work and everyone has given up on it and all boys will become thugs and all girls will become welfare queens and too bad, there's nothing we can do about it!

He has the balls to say these kids need a calmer classroom and more time with the teacher so let's only have 12 per classroom and hire all the teachers needed and just fucking do this right goddammit.

I think this measure is gonna mean a brighter future for milions and millions of children.

Care to explain why? Or are you just content with your Shareblue approved one-liners?

Instead of bumping shill threads being posted by retarded leafs, come help fuck Macron over

I watched the debate live and Le Pen crushed Macron. OP is a jew and is using jewish tricks. Don't believe him!

man I really hate to have to defend a fucking leaf but he seems to have got your number

I explained while extensively in my first post.

t. Shareblue CEO

>he does not believe that Le Pen is a mighty force sent by god to save France
>that means he's a shill from Shareblue, an american political organization that tries to influence american politics
Slit your throat nigger

You're a fucking faggot. White children didn't need limited classroom sizes. The solution is to close the borders, kick out every illegal and criminal foreigner, revoke citizenships of criminals and kick them out and severely reduce welfare. Even with smaller classrooms niggers and mudshits will be niggers and mudshits.

>I can't vote but I really strive for Macron
>I can't vote

Kek that really says it all doesn't it.

ok hitlerjungend

you know youve been on Sup Forums too long when that meme means something

gateau

I just didn't get my elector card get done in time.
I'm a neet who goes out of his house once a week and cannot be fucked to get papers done in time.

Like most people here.

You know, this place would be much nicer if we just accepted what we are, people with problems, trying to fix them, rather than RPing as some mighty warriors who fight for the good of the world.

I'm just trying to have a good life and move to a small village, that's my plan.

I don't need to pretend that I want to save the world in a mighty last judgement war.

It's the truth and you know it. Which is why you try to block it with half assed measures from muh oh so efficient government. You need to expand state control to keep the invaders and leeches in check. Go outside and look what your country has turned into. Open your eyes for fuck's sake.

THIS!

MANU THE MAN!

Memes are only true on the internet.
Where I live, life is really ok.
I lived in paris too and went to so called no go zones and it wasn't as bad as that.

France is not some battlefield, as much as you would like to beleive it. Not yet at least.

And for sure, if Lepen is elected it's gonna turn into one big battlefield, and you will have all the memes that you so much love and watch this country burn from your bed, and we both know this is what you want, because you're mentally ill and your life has turned into a extreme sado masochist ordeal.

Get better.

>aggressive strategy was the right idea
no it wasn't. her ideas are dominant in the country, she doesn't need to bite all the time. she just had to work on her project instead of preparing a list of low blows. as she says we are facing a choice of civilization and she didn't show any sign of a preferable civilization with her childish behavior

wtf I love redditors now.

>Swiss
>knows France better than the French
k

am in Paris, can confirm its that bad.

Honestly dudes outside of the tourist areas there are hardly any white people.

Most of the white people in the centre are either rich French , foreigners living here (lots of white americans) or foreign tourists.

Once you get out past Place de Republique white people go from 70 percent to maybe 5 percent of people you see.

why are you afraid of people with a darker complexion?

I'm truly fucking happy to be on your side, user.
Keep on the good fight.

The BBC are saying that Macron won.

Lurk moar newfag

Thanks.

I hope we can both have good life.

You fucking leftists

Go live in Africa if you like being raped and murdered. Niggers and arabs are fucking animals and you know it.

Also, you're underage, get the fuck out of here.