Why do NEETs who've never held a job complain about unions on the internet?

Why do NEETs who've never held a job complain about unions on the internet?

probably because unions are just so bad, everybody knows it. they ruin employment AND wages simultaneously, and coddling them has put a huge dent in property law, too. there's literally nothing good about them, and they should be dealt with using defensive violence consummate to that which they enact on property owners.

i hope this helps. after all, you're just a canadian.

NEETs are unhappy with their life and the current state of affairs so they will bitch for absolutely anything

Also sauce/more.

Lurk moar newfag

Thicker than a bowl of oatmeal.

same reason liberal kids who've never held a union job say they're the best

they're destroying the country, you don't have to be an amazing political analyst to figure it out

>I don't mind being treated like shit as long as it triggers le liberals XDDDD

THICC

Unions are an invention of the kikes to collect shekels.

it would be easier to get a job without unions

It would also be easier to lose a job

I've heard mixed things about Unions. Don't know if I should join one, once I'm a qualified Tradesman.

Unions are shit, it turns a workplace into a communist shithole

>guy works hard
>cant reward his diligence because there are three lazy shitheads that have been working longer than him that would need a raise before you can give one to the good worker

>also you cant fire the three lazy fucks

>try to force everyone else to join and pay dues to their shitty union

>bitch about the job, instead of finding a job they like more they strike and try and keep others who are perfectly happy with the working conditions from being employed

>unions are a tool of greedy kikes

The list goes on

t. Machinist

Because they've been told Unions Are Bad, m'k. Don't do Unions, m'k.

same reason all these 18 year old rural and suburban retards on their parents health insurance plan rail against single payer

So have you fags ever even been in a union or are you just spouting shit you learned in your 5th grade history classes

Cynically over time, they turn into another layer of management. But sometimes company management is that incompetent and needs assistance to manage their own worker bees.

I don't think they're good or bad, more like a necessary duct tape and bailing wire to keep a broken system going.

Unions undermine the free market by artificially inflating the wages of the employees.
Free market capitalism is essentiel for development and increased living standards. We would all be having a personal AI driver transporting us around in a luxury flying vehicle if it wasn't for the unions.

This basically, I used to anti-union but a few times our union has helped friends of mine against corporatist bullshit, I'm not even a member of it just understand its benefits

Checked your triple double.

>cant reward his diligence because there are three lazy shitheads
Lol. Like management ever knows who it is who's doing the work to begin with. Usually management only figures out who was actually doing all the work, when that person leaves for another job and all that's left are the parasites. Don't see how a union affects that one way or the other. Management still has their head up their ass. What I've seen, they just want to keep the door closed so they can fap to porn.
>bitch about the job
Every wagecuck does that, union or not.
>unions are a tool of greedy kikes
no argument there

This

A corporation cant function without workers, don't work for shitty bosses and they'll go bankrupt. Unions are entirely unnecessary.

>muh free market.

Listen retard, you will never have a free market, it doesn't exist outside of theory. In the real world markets are not free, and banning unions doesn't make them "more free", it makes it "less free" by outlawing free association among individuals.

Taylor Darling

Sometimes it's not easy to change jobs. Especially if it's a company town.

That's might all be true for multinational companies. Unions screw over small to mid sized companies in which owners do know who work for them and also nurture those workers so they can grow the company.

>Dude, just go live on the street. Fuck that shitty boss! Who cares that people more desperate than you will continue working for them anyway!

See
If your management is that incompetant, quit and work elsewhere, for every shit company there is a good one that highly values a skilled worker that shows up to actually do their job, not just coast through the day, bitching about having to work all the while.

And I would counter small companies engage in excessive nepotism, which a union would provide protection from.

I work for a huge corporation, it's nothing to do with shitty bosses when its filled with bureaucracy, big companies have the luxury of being able to wait months for new employees but for the people themselves going moving jobs is not so easy

because they're always on strike and they make me fucking late to everything, or just ruin my day entirely. replace them with robots. fuckin fags.

That's true actually, can't blame them though. Since they most likely don't sell shares in the market they need someone to run the company when they die.

>for every shit company there is a good one
I would counter that the ratio isn't 1:1 but more like 10:1

>people more desperate than I will replace me

Good, more power to them. I've never hesitated to quit a job. I've never been without a job for more than 5 days either.

If you are good at what you do, you are an asset. If you are great at what you do, even if it is something as simple as digging holes, youll always have a job.

If you are shit at what you do, git gud or learn to enjoy working with the rest of the mediocre slobs.

Because why not

i'm a NEET with money worth around 1.5million in stocks faggot, i will literally be all my life NEET. Kill yourself wage cuck, work hard for the shekelburgg he will pay you good that's what capatalism is copntroling the fucking wagefags. you're literally slave and be happy for that slave. THIS IS CAPITALISM

There are pros and cons to both sides. Just know that unions are very cult like. And I mean that literally.

>>guy works hard>cant reward his diligence because there are three lazy shitheads

literally me. But this month I was just booted off my parents insurance.

>tfw no insurance.

Im a factory worker, i make 1mil every 8 years. Big fucking deal, it isnt the 1920s anymore millionaires arent the big fish they once were.

You're part of the investor/rentier class to be more precise, not exactly a NEET although I suppose it is an interesting way of looking at it :)

Yeah, if you're a shitty union worker maybe.

some union demands are reasonable, others are not

there i saved you lots of time

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I'm a NEET and I've never really given a second thought about unions. I know they were necessary in the past because rich people in Britian saw their workers as tools instead of humans, but I don't know if it's needed in today's world.

QUESTION: If we got rid of all unions and government regulations on workers rights, would it and up as heaven or hell? I'm scared that we'd immediately revert back to 0.40$ per hour their wages and no one would ever get raises type stuff while the CEO and higher ups start laughing manically like the devil. What do you think?

Um no, sweetie

kek, you understand what stocks are? I'm getting around 15-30k back from stocks every month, pay little get money back and this is automatic. easy life, however money don't make me happy

>tfw work in trades for non union company
>tfw on job where every other trade is union
>tfw working near pipe insulators
>tfw the guy working was skipping every vertical pipe, looked retarded
>tfw asked why and he said he only insulates horizontal pipe and vertical is someone else's job
>tfw union efficiency

> has all these things
>dick
Ruined my chances of being a top tier ayrian goddess

Serious Question. I-Is that a tranny?

You don't need unions when you have contracts.

this

like how automation is more efficient? who will you cry to when you're replaced by a robutt? unions will fight against that too.

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WAGEKEKS BTFO

>Bosses make workers work for slave prices.
>Workers have no money.
>No one buys services.
>Owners go bankrupt.

I thought people stopped being this retarded after Henry ford.

You aren't as THICCC as she is. And remember fat is only fat.

You realize that 100% automation at near 100% efficiency means that no one has to work and is free to pursue intellectual and artistic interests all the time, right. It's basically perfectly sustainable large scale ancient Athenian lifestyle.

Unions are a bunch of fucking mobsters who use dumb cunt workers as leverage to get fat kickbacks from companies and governments.

Always has been like that, always will be like that.

Why bother building the automation if you can't gain from it? Who's funding the start of that? Big statist government? Top kek m8, maybe in 300 years.

This.

Exactly why no sane business will push for full automation. Low skilled union workers need not to panic.

>stocks
will go to zero
just like your fiat currency
you have no skills and will not survive the 4th turning

Robots arent cheap bud.
You also not going to be producing the same product all the time.
Even slight changes in the design of your product can force you reprogram your entire assembly line and test run it so it actually makes what its suppose to without error.

Or you can tell Joe "This hole is 1/2" to the left now"
"Ok. not a problem" said Joe

fpbp

Yes, I was arguing that, ultimately, low skilled workers have nothing to worry about in terms of automation because full automation doesn't yield optimal profits in the long term.

If youre a fascist technically you arent against Unions, you just want the state to be a Union.

No clue, always thought they were a decent thing until I experienced them firsthand. Now I hate them with a passion, they're vultures that try to lure you in riding on the back of that one major benefit they managed to squeeze out of the management ages ago. Now it just sees use as a barrier to keep shitty employees from being fired after (x) period of seniority

>Boss raises salaries and in turn prices to cover the additional cost.
>The workers buy from companies that still pay slave wages due to lower prices.
>The companies that were paying good wages go bankrupt.

Yes people are still collectively retarded and regulation is the only thing saving them from it.

Please name a company town the type of which you speak.

They are necessary evil. Simple as that.

ahh sorry bud.
I get enraged when I see people say robots are better than people in the workplace.
I run CNC equipment and I fucking hate them because everything will be running smoothly and then it will suddenly attempt to plow through 10 inches of steel because someone used "Inches per Revolution" instead of "Inches per minute".
Robots have a place and make my life easier but I would never replace a worker with one.

1.5 mil doesnt go as far as it used to man, i got about 3 mil in real estate so suck it bitch.

>someone used "Inches per Revolution" instead of "Inches per minute".
>it was the robots oy veyyy

i also think non trades people underestimate how much manual dexterity, bending / twisting, crawling through extremely small openings, climbing across trusses, etc. Sure a robot could probably do some, but i'd be sincerely impressed if they had robots now capable working with the same efficiency as a human

>All these unemployed retards who have never been in a Union bitching about organizations which vouch for YOUR rights against greedy corporate oligarchs.

You fuckers are beyond hopeless. Even Hitler created a nation system for Unions/worker's rights.

I am an electrician and I love my Union. They stand up for us against the corporate elite. My wages are higher, and I have great benefits.

Anyone ITT saying unions are bad are not in a Union and are probably not even employed.

The time and cost spent on programming for a new or updated product is recouped quickly due to quality control.

You can tell Joe to move that hole 1/2" but he can't do it repeatedly and accurately.

you dont think they will have mini bots for those hard to reach places? cmon man

Eat shit Cletus.

Unions vouch for your rights against the corporate elite. They ensure you have livable wages and rights while employed. You fucking neckbeards have never worked a say in your life.

i'm in a union. was fucked with and threatened by mangement til i joined up. the threats were little shit like if i didn't come in on off day to clean up i would be written up.

because it is not difficult to understand how unions function over time and wind up killing the host employer

Does working an entry level shit job provide you with some sort of insight and otherwise unattainable understanding of how things work?

t. currently working shit job and it's making me none the wiser

You wouldn't have that problem if AI was doing the program. What you described is simple human error.

If by "I run CNC equipment" you mean you fixture a hunk of metal and push a button you are in grave danger of being replaced by a robot.

why will those thighs never crush my puny neck?

this universe is full of dissatisfaction, user. we must all deal with it.

THICC. S-sauce?

union is euphemism for extortion and monopoly

buy ethereum dumb nigger
you'll be a billionaire

Go read some antitrust law literature. Collective bargaining rights are regularly abused by unions but they are a necessary evil to keep monopolies and bad faith corporate actors in check. The world is full of unscrupulous businesses making unlawful implicit horizontal agreements between themselves to treat workers like shit, and union laws act as a remedy against this

One day you'll learn that your liners professor was full of shit and a bubble inhabiting moron. In law and policy there is never any black or white position, everything inhabits grey areas, but the current rules and regulations are geared as much as possible towards the free market system

>Anyone ITT saying unions are bad are not in a Union

I had no idea I had to be in a union in order to be allowed to talk shit about them.

I used to work for Southwest, and they're unionized.

>nearly impossible to get fired while in a union unless they fuck up BIG time
>everything in the union is based almost entirely on seniority, making it pointless to work hard and stand out because they're stuck on the same wage track for as long as they work there
>union workers just sitting in the breakroom watching movies for hours on end before going out to unload baggage from a plane


Unions are for lazy fucks. Enjoy doing grunt work your whole life.

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You know fine well that's bullshit. Going back to Ford again, he basically poached all the best workers and forced other companies to raise their wages also or even up with just leeches.

Fuck, if everything was run by a Ford, everyone would be amazingly comfortable.

why the fuck havent you sold yet nigga?

>1500000 in stocks with say 5% dividends.
>75000 a year income.

If you cannot live off that you are a greedy fuck.

Don't really see a point to them in first world countries like Canada where labour law is well developed and they generally perform the job of protecting workers well enough. Not to mention the legion of lawyers who will work for free to represent you in a labour dispute case.

In white collar workplaces they seem useless at worst, but they seem to really impact the ability for blue collared workers to make any headway without being one of the very few who get into a union.

>75000 a year income.
That's a salary of a hobo in New York

Why the fuck would you live in NYC if you weren't working there? It's a massive shit hole.

1.5 million danish Krone to dollars = circa $200.000. Good luck living off that. And further, you are a shit liar. Even assuming all your stocks are dividend paying and each company makes enough profit to declare dividends and assuming you are a genius stock picker with no losses, you are looking at a 3-5% return on 1.5$ mil, not exactly living like a king money. You may fool your fellow 16 year olds with your larping but not the adults who pay taxes and know finance