How is poland going since Andrzej Duda was elected ?

How is poland going since Andrzej Duda was elected ?

Leftist in France start using Poland as an exemple to why we should vote for macron, especially on Facebook.

Can i have some point of view from real Sup Forumsish that i can use against them ?

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>Duda
Presidents in Poland don't mean anything. The prime minister is the shit here.

So ... nothing has changed basically ?

We're the safest country within the EU and the second safest in the world with Japan on top.

Our economy is growing by 3.6%, unemployment is at a all time low.

We took in something like a million Ukrainian refugees.

All the shills who cry "muh democracy" and paid for by the banks.

Yet Duda is a meme just like all our previous presidents, at least he is representative and knows how to spell words correctly unlike Mr.Bredzisław Komorowski ie a glorified idiot and a pro Eu faggot.

They are actually right if they do, but Duda is a meaningless person, even his supporters will agree he's just a puppet.

>tfw not living in Poland

somebody swap places with me quick

Well, basically things are going for the better, our economy is showing significant growth, there are some issues with military, polish birth rates have apparently shoot out, still too little for replacement rate, but we are getting there. But then again our Right wing party is old one and estabilished one. I mean they have been around for a while and been ruling Poland in 2006 something. Thanks to them we got opt-out from Lissabon treaty so not that bad. Also they do have lot's of think tanks and pretty clever people behind them, not sure if FN has them. What I'm trying to say PiS is alternative an establishment party (disagreements within elite how country should be led), FN isn't.

You're still better off economically but I wouldn't want to be anywhere near an arab nieghbourhood.

There also extremly stupid decisions goverment is making, like giving extra money for second child and every next. If family incomes doesnt stand to certain level they get that money even for the first child. And becouse of that the number of unemployed has raised due to people who gave up their jobs to get money for just having a child

Literally nothing has changed, just another, more socialist gang rapes Poland, considerably increases taxes and debt, but some are happy because of getting more "free" monies for babies etc. We may not have niggers, but nigger mentality is strong here, especially in the eastern parts.

What's an average polish paycheck like for in euros? (maybe median is more telling)

Andrzej Duda, and more importantly Law & Juistice Party are socialists with catholic narrative. They keep Poland independent though. And are anit-globalists

You can't be a Socialist if you're anti-globalist.

The portrait you guys are making is so far from what the leftist are pushing here in France .

i could give you exemples but basically they make it sound like Poland is now a fascist authoritarian country.

>Leftist in France start using Poland as an exemple to why we should vote for macron
Because Frenchies have the mentality of jacobins and Poland is now a very different culture from that of France

The fact is that we still have excessive welfare state, bureaucratism with wide array of licences, permissions etc. We're not different in those terms from Europe

The difference is that in Poland we still have more or less influential catholic right-wingers, pluralism in the media and patriotism present in the public space. And this is why there's this harsh attack on Poland because stands out a little from those western jacobins

"average paycheck" is about 830 euro but like 70% of people earn minimum wage or little more. Which is about 470 euro. Also strip 1/3 of that as taxes and compulsory insurences. But hey, everything is way cheeper then in Sweden. Like litteraly food is few times cheeper

I live around >Rotterdam. Two of my real life friends migrated to Poland to do meh work. They're not rich. Yet they say they are never coming back, one of them is there for nearly three years now. Depends on what you want in life I guess.

Are they Dutch or Polish?

Ethnic Dutch. But I am an ethnic Pole albeit born here. Top fucking kek amirite?

uhh are you a refugee? You literally can live in Poland if you are EU citizen

poland needs to remove kebab again
youtube.com/watch?v=eWkrQQly6xU

You work for 700 euros a month you polish fucks

Currently it's a countdown to 500+ biting us in the butt. Poles are suckers for free handouts.

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Well, let me put it like that: after that idiot Macron compared today's Poland to Russia even our most stringent opposition said that he's totally exaggerating.
It's pure nonsense and propaganda.

>i could give you exemples but basically they make it sound like Poland is now a fascist authoritarian country.

That's technically correct. The checks-and-balances system has been dismantled.

Except that so far, this has had no direct impact on the life of an average person, so the people here are telling you nothing happened.

But given the legislation currently in the pipeline, 2018-19 is going to be interesting.

it doesn't matter if cost of living is low and i don't have to live around roaming niggers

What the fuck are you talking about?
How is putting your people in Constitutional Tribunal 'dismantling it'?
And when PO did it it's suddenly not dismantling it at all, it's improving it.
You're just spewing partisan propaganda, you leftist fucker.

I make almost 5k Euro. If you're smart, you can make money anywhere.
If you're a stupid peasant, then you should kill yourself anyway, so it doesn't matter how much you make.

Just post the map with the terror attacks of the last 5 years.
I don't have it. Maybe someone does.

Nah, I would say not much changed since previous center-lefit government. Well only now we have lefitst demonstrations instead of right ones, and far more of them actually

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>if cost of living is low

That not the case in Poorland. I assure you.

What's the median salary in Poorland please?

Well, to be more correct nationalist country with authoritarian style democracy (which isn't inherently bad thing, despite muh Hitler). Meaning that while the people elect the representatives and government, these people now have more powers. Regarding courts, there is a need for reform, and of course ruling party just like in any other country tries to change the system more to their liking, which isn't inherently bad thing. There is a bit of legal battle, but issue is that the laws, which have been passed to protect the legal system are vague enough to give room for various interpretation.

He didn't even insult France. What's with the butthurt?

I make 45k a year in euro. Poland is fantastic you stupid cunt

>he fact is that we still have excessive welfare state, bureaucratism with wide array of licences, permissions etc. We're not different in those terms from Europe
This. You even need a permit to chop down your own little tree.

>How is putting your people in Constitutional Tribunal 'dismantling it'?

Kek. All lawyers agree that Przyłębska has been nominated illegally, so all rulings of said Tribunal are null and void.

It's a win-win for PiS, really. On one side they have a Tribunal which will rubber stamp anything, on the other it does not matter because these rulings are illegal anyway :)

> What the fuck are you talking about?

The courts reform. Judges nominated directly be the executive. THAT one is going to be a really fun :)

what job
I don't know what to do with myself

I'm fucking sick of Polish posters bragging about their fucking shithole ... since 1 years, we see bunch of Polish faggot posters always bashing or mocking UK/Germany/France and trying to persuade us that their country is fucking good, their economy etc ...

I don't know the median, the average salary is sth around 1k Euro as far as I remember.

Where are they living nederbroeder?

T. Dutch refugee to polska

>since 1 years
are you trying to persuade us your spelling is fucking good?

Honestly, I don't want to brag, you bring it up. Most Poles just want to farm memes in peace and enjoy things on our own and yes, FUCK OFF WE ARE FULL!

What makes you so mad, they are quite an exemple compared to what France is becoming. it's fair

I don't get why people are asking for how much is salary here or there.
If you're a skilled individual you can have a high-paid job in any of the bigger cities and live wealthy.
Why not look at job offers on the web for people like software devs?

the cost of living is very low actually.
Polish posters aren't really bragging, other countries are comparing it to the rest of the world, no need to be so salty about that. Start making your own country better so you can brag about it too.

>I'm fucking sick of Polish posters bragging about their fucking shithole ... since 1 years, we see bunch of Polish faggot posters always bashing or mocking UK/Germany/France and trying to persuade us that their country is fucking good, their economy etc ...

The work pays shit, but the apartments are cheap, so this compensates, and the lack of diversity is priceless... :)

It's just a bunch of French niggers or arabs, not actual frogs.
They have to deny every single positive news about Poland in relation to France, UK or Germany, because if they don't, people might caught up on the fact that societies without shitskins tend to progressively get better in contrast with those that have tons of shitskins.

Warehouse management

watch out bois, we gotta a prime example of retarded pis supporter in here

>Start making your own country better
>say fucking Poorland

You first Krukowski. Tell to your compatriot to stop immigrate en masse in UK or Germany, this wiil be a good first step

Median is 3291 PLN (2016).

how can you assure anything, you dont live there you fucking frog

Cyka youtu.be/qXTmAkJKikI

>All lawyers agree that Przyłębska has been nominated illegally
Not true. Literally a leftist spin, zero facts.

>Judges nominated directly be the executive.
Exaggeration, and btw that's a good thing. There is no more corrupted group in Poland right now than fucking commie judges.

I visited this shithole. Washing machine, food etc have the same price in France

> software devs
> skilled

Overpaid, yes. Skilled, not really. (Seriously, read up on the UTC leap seconds fiasco.).

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>"On the second round i gave a null vote. I regret it . For our defense , we had no idea what it was like to live in a country ruled by far right populist."

How high the bullshitometer rise

Yes, so pretty fucking low.
Fix your shithole

> and btw that's a good thing.

Kek. Wait until PM's driver crashes into someone again and we have those new judges... :)

Western "polish" should just do everyone a favour and commit mass suicide

Very high. PiS can hardly be said to be right wing at all, never mind far right.

lulz

>FUCK OFF WE ARE FULL!
As long as your remain a socialiast-lite state run by catholic kikes, you don't have to worry about us diaspora coming back.

>Fix your shithole

No way. You see, that's our secret weapon against The Diversity (TM).

Who gives a fuck. What is the chance that pm driver crashes into me? Literally less than a fucking lighting striking me ten times in a row.

Polish Lithuanian commonwealth 2.0 when?

>You even need a permit to chop down your own little tree
Now you don't since the so-called "lex-Szyszko"

Good for you.
But you have thousand of young Polish youth that leave your shithole so that not a smart idea.

Colonize. You knew how to do that once.

Macroni Macroni outsource me another fabriconi

Nearly half of it is now inhabited by the niggers of Europe - hohols.

No thanks.

>Who gives a fuck. What is the chance that pm driver crashes into me? Literally less than a fucking lighting striking me ten times in a row.

Yeah, just like the chance that a random slut you're fucking is a daughter of a politician, or the chance that a random business partner has connections, or the chance that a random dude you hit with your car... You get the idea.

Poland have shit demography and birthrate anyway. You had one of the worst birthate of Europe :^)

I never implied that software devs are skilled, I just said about being skilled as a person - in any of the fields

>far right populist
this whore's life probably hasn't changed in the slightest after PiSs came to power

I only wish they wouldn't mess with the media, like tv. My grandma keeps watching the bullshit served on TVP Info and she's since become a fucking pis drone.

The only births in france are niggers and mohammads you retarded frog.

Get real , France's high birthrate is not due to French population

That's true Pierre, but at least 99.9% of newborns are white. Cannot even imagine how shitty it must be in your meme country.

And you are the biggest benefitor aka leecher of the eu.

Perfect image Polbro, im stealing this one

Tell your babcia to make more pomidorowom zupa

When the so-called state of Lithuania is no longer able to form any kind of military, which may be closer than we expect. Seriously, I'm concerned mostly with the Vilnius county.

This is the reality now. Except instead of PiS being in power, local cliques are. You're delusional if you think it isn't that way already.

to answer your question: current polish government is a retarded autocracy-wannabe full of russian useful idiots, just idiots or braindead zombies in positions only because of nepotism.
Basically solely run by 70 year old autistic gay virgin from the back seat who fully control his puppets (including president and prime minister) and few years ago killed his twin-brother (and a president back then- a really weak one desu) to create some kind of mystic cult he's the main priest now. Each month they organize some very special kind of mix of a mass and political rally to "achieve the truth about plane catastrophe from 2010" (or "assassination" as they claim) even despite the fact that it's well-established it was just a catastrophe and in the meantime all those families accepted shitload of money from insurances.
tl;dr they are disgusting.

Explain me the high birthrate in place like Britanny, Normandie then?
>That's true Pierre

Then explain why you have shit demography? You keep bragging about your country being safe, with no muslim, no terrorist, good economy... What happened? Why? Kek

so?

One important difference though.

Previously if you got fucked by the clique, you'd get your justice in court. After 10+ years, but you would. See Roman Kluska.

Under PiS, once you're fucked... you're fucked.

Soros influences trying to subvert poland. My gf is already pregnant so im doing my part.

Judges are part of the clique, you morron.

has you covered, I heard in the news in Gdynia some dark skinned gentlemen were asking about buying some ak47s but the store owner house arrested them and waited for the cops to take them off.

Andy is Jarek Kaczynski's puppet and I wouldn't blam him for the wrong nor praise for the good that the govt does. However I respect him and PM Beata Szydlo for promoting Polish national identity, culture and pride, like they did on the 2nd march, which was the day of Polish flag or something. That's nice and I like that the government figures finally promote Polish identity and pride in Poland, even if politically they're irrelevant.

As for the question, it's hard for me to say. Kaczynski's govt did a lot of bad things already, but at least they do a bit of good, especially regarding the promotion of Polish identity and sovereignty, as well as anti-immigration politics. This is enough for this govt to be a large improvement over the liberal govt we had for 8 years. Sure, besides those two things they mostly suck, but it's not like we had realistically a better alternative. Of course Kukiz 15 got a lot of votes in elections, that I must admit, but not for one moment did I delude myself that this would be the breakthrough in Polish two-party political scene. Maybe in the next elections something will change and we'll finally get a govt other than PiS or PO, but I think it's unlikely.

hey mr macron.
hows that 70 year old pooonani l m o a

this map is a lie, as we had a terrorist attack last year, luckily a failed attempt- but what else can you expect from alt-right Korwin supporter lol

>Implying the disapora aren't the biggest supporters of the Polish government even amongst educated people

It's like you don't know anything

If you want to use Poland in discussion, look at the economy (structure, exports and major owners) and show your fellow amphibians, how a german takeover ends for a country. We're a goddamn colony and the US military protectorate.
Should do for more independent-minded Frenchmen.

Explain to me how Kluska got justice served to him again.

This. Poland consists mostly of large multinational companies and anyone with a good paying job is usually working for a German.

> Judges are part of the clique, you morron.

That's why the appeals were invented. Chance that a Supreme Court judge in Warsaw is paid by clique in Pcim Dolny is pretty much nil. The SC judge may be paid by some Warsaw mafioso, but then a Warsaw mafioso does not do business in Pcim Dolny so that's not a problem for a citizen of the latter.

PiS wants to solve the problem of judges being paid by various cliques by having all judges paid by one clique, that is, PiS.