Better not get cancer under that new healthcare system, or you'll be paying $140,000 a year for your health insurance

Better not get cancer under that new healthcare system, or you'll be paying $140,000 a year for your health insurance.

better than punishing the healthy guy and making him pay for it

Looks like OP will be paying $5,420

That might sound like it makes sense until you realize that you will most likely get cancer at some point in your life.

Spbp

do you not see the insurance companies pulling out of the obamacare markets? they're losing money because it's too expensive to insure sick people with too few healthy people. the current system is in a financial death spiral and sick people paying more is inevitable.

kek

Except that's not how it works pretty much anywhere else in the world. I don't see canada's or the uk's healthcare system collapsing.

Shut the fuck up

it's either everyone pays a lot more in taxes, or people pay for the care they need. i know which one i'm choosing.

Then I guess I'll just fucking die then huh faggot.

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Guess so. Meanwhile someone in canada gets to live a lot longer than you in exchange for a 5% higher tax rate.

how much did you pay in taxes last year?

The world is a shit hole. I want to see it burn. Fuck people.

This be top Kek.

Good thing your state gets a rebate to cover you then. Im sure placing power in the hands of Washington to add a few more levels of politcally connected 200,000$/year bureaucrats in between you and your doctor has always worked in the past, but lets have the states figure it out instead of washington.

the cancer industry is a propaganda, just go for "alternative" medicine which is just medicine but not mainstream

Good luck beating cancer with wheatgrass smoothies.

more selective bias from leftists, post source and context so people can do their own research and make up their minds.

good luck beating cancer with radiation and chemo

Fuck, why can't I make post like this

There you just wait 2-3 years for an MRI. If you die during that time, we'll that sucks for you then.

>this is what life was like before obamacare
waa

do you want to pay an average of 42% income tax? is that only 5% higher then your paying now?

Nice try, faggot. Did you read the citations? Old data. Try harder, or go back to peddit.

OP hasn't posted since this question. It's easy for people that don't pay taxes and/or get a tax refund from the IRS each year to ask everyone else to pay more to help cover their medical bills.
They they have the gall to call others selfish.

It's funny how people in this thread just """"give up"""" their lives in order to justify Trump bad decision.
I mean, pay a few more dollars to have unlimited medical care... Is this too much of logical stuff for your mind?!

it is not collapsing, but it is severely clogged. My uncle was diagnosed with kidney cancer and it took him 3 months to begin receiving treatment, meanwhile if we sent him to an american hospital he could receive treatment right away but costs a fortune. Personally i believe there should be 2 different healthcare options, such as privatised hospitals and government funded hospitals.

>autistic disorder
>disorder

He did it wrong , He should have gone through a health care broker.

That's how we do it in the UK. I'm amazed the Canadian system forbids some treatments to operate privately.

At least we'll pay for our own instead of someone else's, it's called personal responsibility you commie frickin scum

wtf i hate cancer now?

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Then i'll just die. Yea faggot I would choose to die to prove you wrong.

top lel

>implying that cancer is real

no u

Yah i wish i knew this earlier, he is expected to have 6 months left but he seems to be deteriorating much quicker.

Oh yes, it's so much better to pay for your own, THAT'S what's important here.

enjoy your stupidly high taxes retard. I'll stick to not having my money stolen.

Yeah when you are old, and by then the chance of chemo actually working are very slim. You are more likely to die severely in pain from chemo in your old age than you are to be cured and for that reason I won't get treatment when I'm 70 with cancer, I will enjoy what's left of my short life and die normally surrounded by friends and family.

Don't worry, this is gonna get shut down by the senate. It's impossible to gerrymander senate seats.

Jokes on you OP I want to die. I wouldn't go to the doctor even if I had cancer. I contribute jack shit to society, it would be pointless to waste resources saving me, I didn't even graduate high school kek.

I'm not against health care for all since I don't pay taxes but I get why people wouldn't want to pay for the medical care for someone like me. I snort coke everyday and haven't been to a gym in over a year, I'm fine with society letting me die. They don't owe me anything.

The Broker can get a fixed price that is 90 percent less than what we pay if you are from Canada

Yah the canadian medical system is shit in general, typically the only operations that can be privately funded are non life saving.

Yes in fact that is what's important here in America where I am a citizen and you are not

if you don't like it, leave.

We have massive brain drain to America though because the private system pays way better and we are left with mediocre doctors. Literally 80% of my dads friends from med school went to America right after graduating.

I have heard from my grandparents that lots of canadian seniors travel to florida for better medical treatment.

we will send you some mexicans in return for your generosity.

>going into health care for money

It's funny how 95% of doctors do this but never admit to it.

Wtf I love living in a socialist sandnigger shithole now.

Kek, we do that to every country, at least 50% of doctors I've had have been foreigners. They aren't all good though, my last doctor was Indian and he got locked up for running a pill mill essentially. Dude gave me roxys for neck cramps kek.

based crackhead

A high number of our doctors go to Sweden, Norway or Switzerland.
Meanwhile a very high number of doctors from Romania, Bulgaria, Spain, Italy, Greece, you name it, come to Germany to work and these countries health systems suffer

>Completed pregnancy
Roasties BTFO

That's any industry though. The smart and successful will always ditch shitty countries for better lives in other nations. The nation's they leave will always suffer because of it but short of going full blown anti immigration there isn't much you can do. Most people will put themselves above the success of their nations of origin.

People are greedy, they are going to go where the money is.

I glad. It'll mean more dead Americans.

Exactly less deadbeat drains on the system!

In a economic Union like the EU the problem is inflated though. Our politics give the poorer countries in the EU no choice to catch up to our industrial standards at the same time make it easy af for academics to work in Germany.

>tfw Rheumatoid Arthritis

that's almost half of my income... before taxes.

I'm going to apparently have to survive on 1/4 of my income.

You guys are just doing what is best for your nation at the end of the day. Unless it's costing native Germans jobs I can see the why you'd incentive skilled foreign workers to come.

How could you help other European nations catch up with you short of throwing money at them and hoping for the best? Seems hopeless for them.

What kind of medical attention does that require? How often do you have to go to a doctor because of it? Just curious bro.

I have no idea how things work in US, but aren't there health insurances that cover those costs?

false. All healthcare insurance is a socialized system. It's just a privately managed, for profit one.

If you want to pay only for yourself and nobody else, you would have no healthcare insurance and just make a healthcare savings account.

Otherwise every month you pay your premiums that money goes into a pool to pay for people who are getting treatment for something, and when you get sick, other people's premiums are paying for you.

Could you explain this for me?

it's called u get health insurance b4 u get sick...

btw ftw i got va hc... o, damn fml

I will learn from you, best laugh.

SPBP

Really though, you have to pay for autism in the US? Here, they give you money and drugs. Thinking about it, I should probably go see a doctor for them gibs.

metastatic cancer diagnoses are like 3 months to live scenarios. you would be paying to prolong the most painful, emotionally gut wrenching period of your life, and I'd you somehow go into remission you'd basically be an invalid.

go out with some dignity for Christ's sake

i have health insurance

and the difference with the evil for-profit one is that people who don't pay into the system don't get to reap the benefits of the system

>tfw you wish for terminal cancer so your parents won't blame themselves when you blow your brains out

This.

this is from 2016

They can't get enough people enrolled because Republicans keep trying to kill Obamacare. A few states have been very successful with getting lots of new customers since they aren't retarded.

>Autism

Trump is NOT ourguy

So what Obama did was get everyone else to pay for that without adressing the affordability.
Were healthcare professionals, and their professional investors, getting payed less during Obamacare?

Train more doctors, it should be a lot cheaper to create and operate these days. If you think people have a cash flow problem maybe your economy is too focused on getting film producers nice houses in the hills and dindus a golden globe/ grammy.

yes.. if people have insurance then this list is irrelevant to them

It's easy - If you're thinking about getting cancer.... Don't!

Good luck trying to get any non-life-threatening condition treated by the NHS, first consultancy waits are ten months long. With a private healthcare provider it is next day or within the week for practically all disorders.

Non-UK people love the "idea" of socialised healthcare provided by the government until they realise how poor the service is when it comes to delivery.

I had to wait 14 months for the first consultancy for a deviated septum and another 7 months for the surgery. And to make matters worse I pay 40% tax for this crap service. UK people are cultish when it comes to the NHS.

the purge, cancer edition.

that $26,000 is the price of that health insurance. Out of pocket without healthcare insurance I'd be paying my entire (pre tax) income just to cover my biologic medication.

after taxes I wouldn't be able to afford it at all.

Immunosuppressive therapy. I take Methotrexate (which is only about $50 a month out of pocket) and Humira (which is about $4200 a month out of pocket) to weaken my immune system so that it stops attacking my joints and internal organs. 4x a year I see my rheumatologist though that's a minor expense, about $100 a visit. 4x a year I have lab work to see if methotrexate is trashing my liver or affecting my WBC counts, that's not THAT expensive but you know, it comes at the same time as my appointments so we're looking at a few hundred dollars 4x a year, then finally, I have to get screened for Leukemia and Lymphoma and Tuberculosis once a year because of Humira. The main cost is that biologic medication.

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Insurance will pay if you sign up before getting it. That's how insurance works, btw

Why should everyone else pay for someone who can't pay for themself to recover from cancer? What exactly are they going to contribute after recovering from cancer if they can't afford to pay for their own cancer treatment? How does society as a whole benefit from paying for the poor individuals cancer treatment?

looks like alot of you are going to die,
just as nature/god had intended.

see you on the otherside fags

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No, not at all. If I ever have to get a new job, I'm fucked out of half my before taxes income. If because the Obamacare repeal means that my policy gets "updated" and they void all current ACA based policies and I have to apply for a new one, I am again, fucked.

And there is nothing stopping health insurance companies from voiding all policies created during the ACA, making new policies, and having current customers apply for the new policies, then fucking over anyone who had been getting treated under their insurance for the last few years.

Just do medical tourism.

The hospitals here are all semi-criminal rackets anyway. Only reason people keep sucking that health insurance cock is in the hopes that they won't ever get the hospital dick up their ass.

But I guess you'll tell me that it's your god given right to be a faggot or something and then you'll whine about the cock you're now sucking not being clean, I guess.

Just got diagnosed the other day. He's still right

If you only want to pay for yourself, cancel your health insurance and just make a health saving's account.

See

"At least nobody called me a cuck!" - You, on your deathbed

lol jk good luck

If it comes to that, try calling the drug manufacturer- they can sometimes refer you to foundations that will pay for the meds. My mom has to do this already, to get Enbrel, which is essentially the same as Humira.

Worth noting that this is even with insurance (Medicare).

I think I'd have to lose my insurance entirely to qualify for Patient Assistance Programs.

Nah, she's retired, and has pretty much 0 income. If you are in a situation of financial hardship, despite having insurance- they will accept you. The first foundation that accepted my mom, was in response to a faxed letter she sent them. After that, it was sort of a referral from X to Y to Z foundation (they are different several times a year depending on what their stock is like / how many people were accepted) You just need to get on the ball, and do it early. Start calling and you can get a several month supply in the mail.

With that said, I suspect there will be many months that she will go without her biologic meds in the future. That's why I'm working my ass off rn.

this cancer is a fungus enjoy feeding it with your (((carbs))), Otto Warburg won a Nobel Prize for discovering what caused cancer back in the mid 1940's ... cells don't get enough oxygen and switch to sugar as an energy source