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Noice. Can't wait for the SJWs and Trumpfags to get fucked.

lmao I can't wait to take away healthcare from poorfags LOL!! Praise Kek!

it doesnt take it away, it just makes it so i'm not legally required to purchase a shitty plan

>passed by the house
its literally nothing

Isn't Obamacare for poorfags anyways? I honestly don't know anyone on it but I don't hang around niggers or white trash trailer park people.

>liberals act like medicaid never existed
>liberals act like literally every hospital doesnt have its own in-house options to reduce the total price or find you a local organization to help you pay

it also required you to have insurance in the first place and penalize you almost $1000 when you pay your taxes

Wait is this a straight repeal or another obamacare lite?
>Captcha = select all the trumpets

know what your talking about before you post shill

Shareblue on suicide watch.

lol what the fuck? How did such a shitty ass system pass?

ask the obamatards

Dont forget:
>pretend they leave you to die if you dont have obamacare coverage

its also single handedly the reason why jobs cut hours because it was required to offer health insurance to anyone who worked more than 20 hours a week

by poor brother was all for obamacare.
that is until he had to pay a huge fine when he did his taxes this year, made him sing a different tune.

>all these butthurt hollywood celebrities on twitter
I'm going to send Trump a thankyou card.

muh socialism
we must pay our fair share of reperations for enslaving black people
why do you think obamacare passed

hospitals can't deny you aide if you go to the emergency room.

>What is fake news.

Pls, stop. I'm reminded now why I stopped coming to this site.

>Obamacare
>socialism

It's a right-wing faux-universal healthcare plan which lined the pockets of insurance companies.

there was always charity care, all hospitals were mandated to give 1/3 of care for free. Obamacare took all that away and fined you for not buying insurance. A stunning amount of Americans just don't know how to get this. I saw a piece on CBC showing a family from Kentucky that voted for Trump but are now scared that they are going to have their healthcare cut off.

No they just put you in bankruptcy. ~80 percent of American bankruptcy caused by medical bills.
Get cancer get fucked.

What the House passed was 90% Obamacare with 100$ billion extra spending for welfare rats

The optimal decision now, for those of us with insurance, is to choose the cheapest option available to avoid the penalty, but do not pay for plans that actually cover you. Its not worth it since the taxpayer is bailing out the poor anyway.

Once we get something serious, we will bitch and moan about muh pre-existing condition and not fair, and then make the US population pay for our medical care.

fuck off nigger supporter

No, they can just charge you out the ass for their services to the point that you may as well have died.

I dont think you read properly. You get a 30% penalty once you are over 61 days of no insurance.

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I was lazy af writing this and was wrong about the defecit number, but the point stands.

you have to be 18 to post here

>why cant I buy this house insurance after my house burns down

The ebullient Trump even found time to troll Joe today

Maybe if you actually looked into news instead of spouting off memes you could actually learn something.

this is meaningless

celebrate when congress passes it dumbass

New bill cuts Medicaid.

>Get cancer, insurance pays, and then can deny you when you try and renew.
>Now can't get insurance anywhere because pre-existing condition.
>Bankruptcy like millions of other Americans.
Number one cause of bankruptcy in America is because of medical bills.
You don't care until something happens to you or the people you love.
I think nobody should be bankrupt because of medical bills.

Very funny way to describe this bill as "repeal". The only net positive things are:
-the individual mandate is no longer mandatory but instead becomes a tax you must pay if you ever lapse in coverage and want insurance again
-planned parent stops getting federal funds
-some medicaid expansion gets rolled back

that's literally it. everything else stays the same or swaps an old tax for a new one.

im talking about before fucking niggercare started dumbass

there are so many shills on this board that shills are taking shills seriously

at least it used to be JIDF v FBI

>Isn't Obamacare for poorfags anyways?
No, medicaid is for poorfags.
Medicare is for oldfags/disabledfags.
Commercial insurance is for wagecucks or selfemployedmasterrace.

Out of 320 million americans, Obamacare was designed to force roughly 10 million uninsured healthy americans that previously chose not to buy insurance (read: could afford it) to go out and buy it, in theory to drive down the costs for everyone else. (These guys were called "Free Riders" people getting by on a "free ride," having access to ERs and other lifesaving medical facilities but not paying in hundreds of dollars a month to the health industry ponzi scheme.)

And Obamacare plans were designed to be worthless with $6000.00 a year deductibles. Perfect for the healthy person that will never go to the doctor anyway and is only buying the plan at gunpoint to subsidize everyone else.

Except when you create artificial demand in an industry as corrupt as health insurance, every is S H O C K E D as premiums continued to rise resulting in no savings for anyone. Mostly because the only people they compelled to buy the crap plans were people that S H O C K I N G L Y were actually sick and made health claims. And if you go back and listen to the guys that designed Obamacare, they knew it wasn't ever going to work, and it was all designed to fail.

1. Obama's team passed the law in 2009 and crafted it so no major components actually kicked in until 2016 and he was already out the door.
2. The entire mess was supposed to be delivered to the next DEM president/legislation so they could "fix" it by converting it to single payer.
3. They dun goofed and Trump predinet now.

So shit like forced coverage still exists?

>1 time penalty

still better than the pile of horse shit we've been stuck with.

the first part is the only one i cared about

my job just offered me healthcare at the beginning of the year

a fucking 6000 dollar premium, which means only once i spend over 6000 dollars in various coverages do they actually start to pay off

i had a fucking ER visit when i had hypothermia about a year ago, needed the ambulance and was out within a few hours but got billed like 2-3 thousand and a life leason to recognize the symptoms and realize in the future i should have just kept drinking warm water with the heater on an would have been fine.

after wards i contancted the ambulance company an the hopstial and got 1 completely thrown out an paid half on the other

eitherway, if i paid it off in full i still would not even halfway to getting actual benifits

i checked all the private options too and their premiums are all similar, the lowest was maybe around 3-4 thousand which is still ridiculous, first ER visit in over a decade doesnt equate to me wasting almost 200 a month for "insurance"

healthcare is a scam, atleast for now i'll have $1000 more at the end of the tax year

>Chairman, President, Reverend Father Donald J. Trump
>no relations

>cbc
>"former drumpf supporter here srsly"

its not a one time deal. its any time you enroll in a new insurance plan:

"Late enrollment penalty (30% of otherwise applicable premium) applies for individuals
buying non
-
group coverage who have not maintained continuous
creditable
coverage.
Current law definition of creditable coverage
includes group health plan, health
insu
rance coverage (including short
-
term non
-
renewable coverage), Medicare,
Medicaid, TriCare, Indian Health Service, state high risk pool, FEHBP, other public plan
coverage, and coverage for Peace Corps workers.
Continuous coverage is assessed
during a 12
-
m
onth look back period prior to the date of enrollment in new coverage.
If individual had a lapse in coverage of 63 consecutive days or longer during the look
back period, late enrollment penalty applies during the plan year in which the
individual enrolls
in new non
-
group coverage. (For SEP, penalty applies for the
remainder of the plan year). Late enrollment penalty is effective for special
enrollments during the 2018 plan year, for all other enrollments beginning with the
2019 plan year.
Private healt
h plans continue to be required by law to provide
certificates of creditable coverage; however, no requirement for governmental
programs (e.g., Medicaid, CHIP, state high
-
risk pools) to provide such certificates."

That's what they should do. They should let us use Health Savings Accounts where we just put a portion of our own money into dedicated funds for health use in the event of an emergency. Then there should be a la carte medical services, instead of nuts bundles that they have now. Because the insurance company pays everything anyway, doctors just order the most expensive things and bill them. That's why it's as expensive as it is.

its called the healthcare taxes they take out of every paycheck

nobody gives a fuck faggot, the people who hated obama care dont want to throw money away into a fake insurance company

we're never going to sign up so the fake tax penalty means shit

>The ebullient Trump even found time to troll Joe today
HAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!

Our President is a hoot. Not only is he doing what he can when he can, he is trolling as it happens and in real time.

Brilliant!

I don't give a fuck what kind of hater you are, who wouldn't want the president of the USA to officiate your wedding?

no it's not.

Man, I'm tired of politics. It's in everything now-a-days. Why can't soros just unleash his sjw-anifa fags and start this civil war already. I'm sick of this fake shit.

>>TFW You realize all this complicated shit could be gone by just having Universal Healthcare

I hope this repeal and replace plan purge out some of you filthy disgusting cousin fucking white trash.

Someone is clearly 20 & hasn't learned much of taxes or payed attention to a check stub .

You know those taxes they take out?

Think of taxes taking out 50% of your check, letting in refugees that hop on government care & you work for these cockroaches.

That is your future.

ok. so you are 12 years old now. but eventually when you get a job with heath insurance I am sure you will turn it down (get it deducted from your paycheck but not actually be enrolled) or when you have kids I am sure you won't get them insurance just so you don't have to pay the penalty.

>all this complicated shit could be gone by just having Universal Healthcare
>80% of people were happy with their healthcare prior to obamacare
>lets just give the federal government total control of 1/5th of our economy and literal power over life or death because "it's complicated"
>let's pay european style taxes that are 5 to 10 times our income tax rate to pay for it
>for deeply substandard care
Good thing you'll never be in charge of anything in your entire life. It would all be too "complicated" for you anyway.

Which tax, specifically. How much is it? What is the law? How does it work?

shariablue

GOOD RIDDANCE.
FUCK OBAMA.
FUCK LEFTISTS.

Shills BTFO (Again).

POORFAGS ABSOLUTELY AND UTTERLY BTFO

>The entire mess was supposed to be delivered to the next DEM president/legislation so they could "fix" it by converting it to single payer.
T
H
I
S

LOL

It was passed by the house and the senate refuses to even vote on it.

GG.

Anyone remember that quote from Cruz saying "Repealing Obamacare will not be easy"?

No insurance for 11 years. Never paid more than $500/year for any medical/dental issue.

Lets assume that I have a great price of medical/dental for $200/month. Just a bit under $30k more equity in my home than in some insurance companies account. I am not paying into the scheme.

Do not live a retard lifestyle and get drunk and injure yourself. Don't have STD sex with random girls. You do not need to see a doctor every time your asshole itches or your tummy hurts.

get a job you nigger

>>Deeply substandard care
Must be why every 1st world country in the world has it except us. Oh and they have more money. How do you explain that?

>a great price of medical/dental for $200/month
No way you're getting medical and dental for 200 a month.

>no insurance for 20 years
>i've been to the doctor exactly 3 times
>paid out of pocket all three times for a total of less than $400
Gee, I wish obamacare could have forced me to buy $400 worth of health insurance a month for the last 20 years with a $6000 deductible meaning I'd still have to pay all my own doctor bills anyway. I didn't need that $96,000 dollars anyway.

Whoops, I meant $96,400.

HAHAHA BASED!!!!

FUCK THE WORKING CLASS AMIRITE?:DDDDDDDDD

best post in thread

What would you know about WORKING class?

>Oh and they have more money.
They pay literally 5 times our income taxes, retard. You could buy a $1,000 a month insurance plan in the US and STILL be paying less than a brit.

Tell you what, dipshit. Go get a 200k a year job and give me half your paycheck. I'll make sure you have a good insurance policy, moron. You'll love your healthcare, guaranteed.

>drudge report

exactly.

30yrs old.

4year degree, no debt
own 250k home outright
100k in assets

Not amazing, but what I do have, in part is due to refusing to play nigger games like health insurance

OMGGFF FUCK YEAHHHHH TAKE THAT LIBERALSSS!!

WE WON AGAIN!!!

If this passes in any way close to the current form in the senate, i can finally get insurance again.
All my feed is filling up with people bitching about how hypothetical other people might lose insurance.
No one gives a fuck that obamacare has cost me thousands in fines, and left me uninsured for years.
Like, they legit think that doesn't happen.
I think they legit think obamacare os doing fine.

>get it deducted from your paycheck but not actually be enrolled
You cant do that actually.

>Isn't Obamacare for poorfags anyways?
No it's for parasite fags. If you're a poor person who works you're just forced to buy really shitty insurance you'll never be able to use.

.
You got fucked with the worst high deductible plan... I have one as well but my employer is pretty cool and gave us the lowest deductible irs would allow while still being high deductible. I put 100 pre tax dollars into my HSA per month and my company matchesnot50. the deductible is like 1600... So I've gotten to the point my HSA would totally cover all deductible expenses and almost up to my total out of pocket if I got really sick. You need to at least utilize your hsa and do your best to stay away from using it until you've accrued some cash in it

SOMEONE GIVE ME A QUICK RUNDOWN.

I AM GETTING FLOODED WITH
>mUH HEALTHCARE

I already know that you were fined if you didnt have niggercare and it was expensive as tits but what more?

>SOMEONE GIVE ME A QUICK RUNDOWN.
In 2009 dems passed ACA, requiring everyone in the US buy health insurance plans and expand medicaid in some states. Less than 10% of the population didn't have or didn't qualify for government insurance at the time, but MUH HEALTHCARE vocal minority of socialists got Obama and cronies to pass the ACA as a stepping stone to nationalizing healthcare aka singlepayer.

The bills passage was instantly so unpopular that hundreds of democrats lost their jobs. And hundreds of GOPs were elected to repeal the bill. Obama, trying to not look bad, designed the bill not to take effect until he was out of office. The bill has never been popular with a majority of americans.

The GOP tried repealing the bill for the last 6 years but Obama vetoed any attempt. After Trump got elected, the GOP attempted to replace Obamacare (the ACA) with Ryan care, a kind of Obamacare-lite. That got shot down by the "freedom caucus" who are GOPs that were elected to repeal obamacare.

Now, after much negotiation, it looks like the repeal/replace is actually moving forward.

>I AM GETTING FLOODED WITH
>>mUH HEALTHCARE
"Elections have consequences."

No only that we subsidized europes health care through military and healthcare R&D spending. America doesn't have the logistics for universal health especially since we would collapse healthcare systems if we did.

What are the ins and outs of the protections for folks with pre-existing conditions being rolled back. I feel like a retard trying to figure out what the fuck is going on here.

Yup. And if you overnight converted US healthcare down to government healthcare reimbursement rates you effectively close nearly half the hospitals and clinics overnight.

Or they'd manage to stay open paying everyone drastically lower wages and offer staggering lower care (longer wait times, less coverage, etc). Just like good old euro woulda done.

Once obama was elected, and dems had control of house and senate, they legit thought they were ending the republican party forever and so when they put that awful stuff in the bill and every republican said no, they passed it any way.
Then they lost seats over and over and now Republicans control all three houses.

Cause you became used to it, and had to go to other, blacker sites to get off?

...

FUCK YEAH

>caring about someone who is about to retire and live entirely off checks form taxpayers money

Its not a tax
The gov isn't getting the extra money you have to spend to get coverage. The company covering you does.

>The entire mess was supposed to be delivered to the next DEM president/legislation so they could "fix" it by converting it to single payer.
>3. They dun goofed and Trump predinet now.

yep

but Trump dont know shit about shit so there's that

senate is disregarding the house monstrosity right now and getting started on their own bill

>And if you go back and listen to the guys that designed Obamacare, they knew it wasn't ever going to work, and it was all designed to fail.
you act like this was the lefts plan you nigger. the right forced consessions out of the bill until it was shit enough that they knew they could get away with repealling it because you would swallow their thick 1% cock.

Wait, so it's only over 2 months of the last year?
So the following year, no penalty?
Thats a great fucking deal.

>64 year old making $26,500 a year
>in the workforce for 46 years and climbed the ladder exactly no rungs
Missing the mark with the sympathy arrow.

>

ok, 2-3k for ambulance ride and 1 hour in hospital with nothing major and no major treatment.

so get in a car accident with major internal injuries and multiply that 2-3k times 100, good luck saving up in your HSA for that sucker

This thread needs more boogie posters to remind everyone that we will no longer be subsidizing FAT LARD GARGLING CRISCO DRINKING FUCKS lifestyles.

Wtf is alaska doing, getting paid more than they lose.

Lazy ass shareblue cuck can't even format is copy paste right.

I earn more as a lab technician with no education and only 1 year of experience. How the fuck you make less after 40+ years worth of experience I know not.