It's not about being religious.
If we lose Christianity we will lose one of the last pillars of our culture and civilization.
I don't know any christian who's a liberal , i was wrong the entire time.
Even though i will never be religious myself , i want to apologise to all Christian members of Sup Forums
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I'm going down this road too soon. Looking forward to it
>i want to apologise to all Christian members of Sup Forums
Apology accepted, now all you need to do is accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior.
So I can call myself a Christian and still do drugs, have casual sex, etc..?
Cool.
you are forgiven
You can do anything you want, but this will lead to eternal damnation.
Prove it
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>I don't know any christian who's a liberal
God I wish Massachusetts was the same. The churches around us have the LGBT flag outside their doors. I am not joking. Nuke us.
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All glory unto Yah! Find the love of your Elohim in your hearts, brothers! Cultivate restraint for decency, strike degeneracy asunder with the sword of truth!
>Even though i will never be religious myself
>I just took the Christian pill
You have taken nothing.
THESE.
>I don't know any Christian who's a liberal
You've never listened much in church have you? Just being anti gay doesn't make you not a shitlib.
You're one step away from home, and God is hoping you take it. Everyone can be saved and accept the gift of grace.
John 14:15
Protestants arent christains though
Conservative ones are. You probably aren't acquainted with us. Would expect that side of the world to have much experience.
Man, churches are being turned into hip special beer bars and hostels throughout Europe.
It's all meant to end. Embrace it
The church is full of apostates. Matthew 7:22-23
The majority of christaind here are luthran aka protestant here
Based curry
>the bible proves the bible
>Ask for proof of God's word
>Show God's word
>"lul that doezn't meen anyting"
>the bible is the word of god, because the bible says so
Lutherans are Catholic-Lite.
Baptists were never part of the Catholic church so it is impossible for them to be Protesting the higherarchy of that pagan church.
Learn what words mean before you throw them around like an 19yo sjw shitlib.
Catholic here. Feels good to be in the true church of my ancestors.
I advise everyone here to go to mass once a week.
How do you get into Christianity? At what point can you call yourself a Christian?
What denomination is best? Does it matter?
>How do you get into Christianity?
Just read the bible, start with the new testament for faster results
>At what point can you call yourself a Christian?
You will know this, hard to describe.
>What denomination is best?
Preferably something similar to protestant
>Does it matter?
Eh, not tooo much, but definitely avoid (((Catholicism))) and other really weird things like that. (protip: if they use their own special version of the bible, run away)
Thanks mate
Everyone who believes in Jesus as the messias is a christian desu. But believing is simpler said than done.
Catholicism is the best imo, although it is in a pretty bad shape. Don't believe anything Sup Forums says about catholicism and think for yourself.
>Implying Eastern Orthodoxy isn't the only reasonable denomination
But yeah, avoid Catholicism, read Dostoevsky's Grand Inquisitor for better understanding
Check out some of the youtube vids from Bishop Barron on catholicism, they are pretty useful.
Can you think of God or Jesus as existing inside all human beings and not outside it and still be considered Christian? Do I have to believe he is his own entity?
Np I try to be helpful, I hope I'm correct tho
Not to shit on catholics but eeehhh nah
>avoid Catholicism
I knew I wasn't alone
>rare flag
>existing inside all human beings
Actually this isn't tooooo far off from what is in the bible
>inb4 gib passages
I wish I had it all memorized but I'm a lazy bastard, sorry.
>Do I have to believe he is his own entity
Pretty much, it comes naturally desu
Also just to let you know, you are the most civil I've ever seen an kiwi
Most of the time they are total fedoras, like canada-tier
fuck off hillsong faggot
Jesus is the Word made flesh according to John 1:14, so He is definitely his own entity.
calling yourself a christian wont make you christian
once you get saved the holy spirit is going to convict ur ass so good luck smoking those drugs and fucking those sluts and thinking ur not going to hate yourself afterwards
Don't worry, you catholic schmucks, orthodox Christians will save Christianity. You will be converted to islam anyways. Deus vult!
>schmucks
Gee, I wonder (((who))) is behind this post. :^)
Glad to have yuh, I guess. Come to the light
But I'm not saying that you are wrong in believing that He exists inside you.
Reminder that any religion that mutilates genitals is not a good one
Catholicism is the true church built on the rock of Peter of whom the pope is a direct descendant
Luther was about Bible alone, shame nowhere in the Bible does it say Bible alone
Jesus didn't leave us a bible, He left a church (with apostolic tradition)
Protestants love literalism until they get to the part where Jesus says "this IS my body, my blood"
Protestants are in the orbit of truth, but Catholicism (specifically Eastern Catholicism-- where priests can marry & Divine Liturgy of St. John C is prayed) is big brain
I think that's the hardest part, thinking of Jesus as an entity outside of humans. For comparison, it's like thinking emotion exists outside of humans as something physical
I like to think I'm the better of the lot haha
I know plenty of Christians who are liberal.
And conservative.
What you have to understand is that it's not that Christianity isn't liberal, but that individualism opposes religion as a thing. Especially the powerful religion. Christianity is memed as the most powerful religion, so individualists signal against it.
Cucked christianity is a very real thing, and it's going to reappear time and time again.
And if you want to be Völkisch, you have to start thinking hard and asking uncomfortable questions, like:
> Christianity isn't the original religion, so why should you go for it?
> Would an earlier pagan religion even be possible, and if it is, would it be desirable?
> What is it that you really want from religions?
And you have to come up with your own answers, and you have to think about them until you see again, what lies behind the curtain.
>i just became christians but not really
>look at me *rubs hands*
Would you say that there exists a true order in the world? Something that exists outside of our minds. For instance: some acts are more valuable than other acts.
Sex for the purpose of creating a family is good.
Sex for the sole purpose of satisfying your desires is bad.
>I don't know any christian who's a liberal ,
I've seen some Christians who are liberal, but actually the thing is, I don't see many liberals who are Christian.
Christopher Hitchens was once asked whether or not, if he had it his way, he would have eradicated Christianity and other theologies from human history. With a sizeable nod to Christianity, of which due to the culture he was brought up by, he said he wouldn't change it. He, like myself, appreciates the values Christianity taught people and the architecture that followed the monotheistic throughout time. Shit happens in all walks of life, and in every religions history there remains some very dark black spot, Catholicism has comforted my grandma through the passing of my grandfather and she believes she will see heaven. How anyone can say that religious ideology is ALL bad is ridiculous.
BS.
Intelligent humans have existed much longer before the idea of Abrahamic religions was even thought of, and there was much less degeneracy there than now.
How would you repent if you did said things ?
wow, I'm shocked and appalled by this slave morality from Sup Forums
A true übermensch would forge his own destiny, learning from the old masters by all means but not being constrained by them either, which I am sure they would not want.
Literally every major religious figure from buddha to jesus were humble, jesus washed his disciple's feet as a demonstration of this to stop them fauning over him so hard. They would not want you to be intellectocucks.
Those thoughts are pretty common here in the Netherlands, especially amongst the anti-islam crowd. They say that religion is a cancer, period.
I used to be like that too, but since easter I have returned to church and have since made an effort to convince all my friends to turn to Jesus as well.
Btw, just look at the number of christianity posts atm, amazing.
That's a might large question, it's hard to comprehend outside of the mind.
I can see the logical implications behind procreation and mindless satisfaction, but a divine order the guides everything, or a natural order (outside of humans) that isn't barbaric is a but much. I can more readily believe that God came to deliver us from chaos, but why would he create us in chaos?
Amen leafbro.
>mfw
That's the exact mentality that eventually accepted the roaches in, what the fuck?
no
the bible is the word of god, because god says so
>being part of a religion that worships a jew
>trying to get friends to turn to jew
The blue pill is strong in you
>Jesus he knows me
Do you know him personally?
prove it's god's word you fucking faggot motherfucker
reminder that the kikes killed Jesus because he exposed the jews
>I can more readily believe that God came to deliver us from chaos, but why would he create us in chaos?
According to Genesis God created us in paradise, but then we fell and have been in a fallen state ever since.
God sent his Son to the earth to save us from chaos and for us to overcome the death of Adam.
What religion are you part of? Or are you a materialist like (((Marx)))?
I'll pray for you to see the light, Sweden. Jesus is the embodiment of truth.
Seems as though I should read the bible. It was a good chat mate
I've also been a bit into this lately. I understand and agree, the loss of the church as a pillar of society and spirituality/faith as an aid in personal development has been detrimental to the west.
However, same as you, I'm unwilling to accept faith and dogma outright from an organization, and I also saw a documentary the other day about christianity etc where the narrator said something like: "It is amazing how an obscure sect of Jews came to such influence over the Roman Empire in such a short time". I can't get past that, he literally summed up the repeated story of the Jews in one sentence. So, how do I know that the faith isn't (((christianity))) - similar to what I've realized about (((democracy).
How do you christcucks reconciliate the fact that at some point you're going to have to trust the word of a bunch of jews?
I am an atheist. I do not believe in your hoola boola Jesus crap, you can keep that circlejerk to yourself. Catholicism is literally heresy, unless you actually see the popes as part of the divine of God, which is anyway heresy.
Tell me, do you believe in the end times?
I wish you well in your path to God, Christus vincit!
just ask God in prayer to receive the holy spirit. I got it instantly after asking, but once you have asked you will receive sooner or later.
I have no religion whatsoever, so I care not for its progression. However, its values should be held onto but more people.
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>muh christianity
When will you learn to oppose this system of control and simply embrace the Christian cultural aspects (which are basically anupgrade of the older traditions)?
I'd join the church again if it gave up the lie of God. But that isn't happening.
All gods will eventually die, we can delude ourselves into "preserving Western culture" only so far with contradictory neo-Hebrew filth. What we need to do is to outgrow these forced desert rat traditions and cast away the false kike corpse god in favor of Divinity of Man.
European man with an IQ above 100 can't have faith into a collection of Jewish fanfiction which were rewritten too many times to count, let alone compete on a spiritual level with low IQ sandfolk who honestly to gods believe that a bedouin flew on a magic winged horse and split the moon.
Why fight a losing battle for a foreign corpse god, when we can define the paramaters of the Long War for soul of Europe?
Christianity is for Jews, not gentiles.
t. Jesus
In what do you believe if it is not God?
Only good thing about Christianity is it's less shitty than Islam. I'd take Buddhism or Atheism any day.
Christianity might not even be better than Jewism. That's right, faggots, it's better to live as a Hebe with Hebes than as a Christian with Christians. The only reason you've done so well to behave yourselves in the last few centuries is because the deists and agnostics (ahem, atheists) of the Renaissance grabbed your bloody nuts and dragged you into modernity.
Sick of this oh thank you Christianity bullshit. If the religion hadn't changed so much on so many whims it would have died in the sewers with its original cult members. Not exactly a beacon of stalwart ideological consistency.
If "God" exists in a natural form, it would be in the form of nature - which is by definition chaotic. The real God is chaos.
Order is created by man, through thousands of years of philosophy. Including Jesus, who was a great philosopher.
Why not embrace the system of control of the church when it leads to salvation? It protects you from other systems of control like the liberal state that leads us to damnation.
People are sheep and always will be sheep, it's the duty of the church to hold people on the right path.
In the human species. The success of the species should be the foundation of our culture.
In Scotland, they turned one Church into a gay bar which allegedly had a BDSM dungeon. It was called "Sin".
Not making this shit up.
Man cannot create something out of nothing.
It doesn't protect you from anything, it's just brainwashing you and stealing from your pocket. A bunch of mobsters teaching people about how to live good lives.
>man can't create
Do you even read what you write?
You are on the right path, user. I was in that place, too. Now it's time to accept Christ as your saviour, pick up a bible and a sword in order to be truly ready for the fight against the enemies of western civilization.
Faith is what drives Christianity. If Faith was replaced with compliance Christianity would dissolve into a tyranny the like you have never seen before.
You fucking idiot the church allowed for the liberal state to exist, they allowed for this degeneracy to come to be. The church consists of people = the church of SHEEP which you follow.
I remember when I was a little atheist like you and considered myself extremely intelligent, a man of science and expert debater. Then I grew up and took the ultimate red pill. I can tell you only this, lads, life before and after is incomparable.
Don't feel sorry. Also if you are an atheist or agnostic and support Christian traditions or the belief, you're not Christian. I know that many Europeans confuse tradition with religion. If you are secular, you are already against the teachings of Jesus and most of the bible.
>I don't know any christian who's a liberal , i was wrong the entire time.
>3hrs
Well, certainly better spend time than watching another porn, I guess. See you later.
Exactly. But reformed Christianity has its perks, like I dunno medicine a cell phones.
Start applying biblical teachings to your life first and I gurentee you will find faith later because once you realise how right the bible is and see the change in your personal life you will understand and humble yourself before the Lord, then even those things you previously saw as absurd "fairytales" etc. you will come to understand the meaning and significance of.
Man can't create something with nothing, you can't create a sword without the right materials.
Man cannot shape order without a divine order already existing, which is the Logos (the Word).
Sweden, I doubt uou have a good view of the church because of how secular Christianity is in your country. Tons of your "Christians" are atheists or agnostics.
Exactly the same for me. Blessings upon you, brother.
christians make me want to throw up
they all think that just because some black nigger or sand nigger or any non white is equal just because they are christian
it makes me want to vomit
Can literally say the same thing about any major religion and come to the same conclusion as yours.
Christianity in western Europe is sugar-coated degeneracy. Reverting back to the religion that spawned the very degeneracy you are against is unbelievably foolish and dumb.
Simply no. Order comes from chaos. There is empericism to all decisions that come from chaos and a local equilibrium of order is established. Man is designed divinely in its ability to discern to intelligently shape the world.