Is IB the ultimate redpill for education?

Is IB the ultimate redpill for education?
>Offers Theory of Knowledge, which challenges preconceptions about truth
>150 required community service hours
>Encourages civil discourse
>Focuses on benefiting the student as a learner instead of just someone who wants to go to graduate

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Hey I take the IB. Doing my final exams this year, infact, as we speak right now.

>Theory of Knowledge
Although this gives the students the option to redpill themselves, as in, they are given the option to question the legitimacy of the material they learn in other subjects once we start taking historical perspectives into consideration. I don't think this is a redpill program but I can see how it can be one. I will talk more about IB and redpilling later on.

>150 required hours of community serves
fuck this shit. It's just forcing kids to do after school activities when they wanna go home and play games.
>encourages civil discourage
I will have to utterly disagree here. I go to a british school in HK and they heavily enforce leftwing liberal narratives into the students and every essay... ill talk about this later.
>Focuses on benefiting the student as a learner instead of just someone who wants to go to graduate
I agree but it comes with a huge cost. Unless you naturally have over 140IQ you're gonna have to work your ass off if you are to gain anything meaningful from the IB.

Let me talk about the IB and "redpill".

This education system is honestly one of the most anti-redpill education system out there. Every english essay i write is just on sexism, patriarchy, misogyny and oppression and kids are taught to fucking hate themselves in this. They really force one side of the story and the "community service" part only heavily enhances this ultra anarcho-libertarian identity that they grow into people.

Another thing about the IB is that it is arguable the most soul crushing education system on the planet. Even harder than local HK education, especially if you take the IB in Hong Kong. Kids here do not have sex. they don't have many friends. They work 12 hours a day because the IB is so demanding and its the most demonizing and soul crushing experience of high school that I never want to go through again.

yeah.. I know a guy who went to IB... he's now a Frankfurt school marxist.
Redpill my ass

Maybe it's because I live in HK and go to a very good school where the average kid is easily over 110IQ so people here aren't fucking mentally retarded and have the ability to think, articulate and discuss.

Although the societal atmosphere within my school seems to play along with the leftist narrative of "equality for all" and "lets give females all the male rights" and other bullshit and whatnot. I find that when I talk closely with these people, they fundamentally don't agree with a lot and think it's more or less a joke but play along with it because they have to live up to some social expectations.

This made me sort of live in a bubble where I thought everyone was kind of aware that the whole left argument (jewish conspiracy) was a total joke and no one took it seriously but looking into the west, I am scared that people actually do take this shit seriously.

I graduated this shit together with a non meme, swiss highschool diploma. I'll put it mildly, the IB is close to useless. It's probably okay for third worlders who want to move out, but if you're white do something useful with your time.

This.
I fell for the IB meme here in the US and its completely fucking useless.
It prepares you for college extremely well but no colleges here give a shit about your diploma.

Take AP tests and sat subject tests instead

t. full diploma thats going to a worse uni than ib associates kids

I heard US colleges don't give a shit about the IB as well. It's more useful in the UK and the likes.

Every kid I know thats taking the IB with me and wants to go to the US does take the SAT because they know US doesn't give a shit about that diploma.

Wish i could go back in time and do AP

IB taker here

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It's better than Norwegian education, because the IB language classes just involve reading a pile of classics and writing analytically about them, whilst Norwegian language classes has shitloads of memorization like when muh national famous cultural treasure author was born and where he lived.

This will differ by university.

Basically, find a university that appreciates the IB.

Might not be that many in the US.

>Might not be that many in the US
thats exactly the problem

>is the IB the ultimate redpill

In short, no. Now don't get me wrong, the general structure of the IB is a great one, however, as it stands today it is only going to broaden people's horizons within the scope of what is currently acceptable.

By this I mean that while it does help you develop critical thinking skills, it does so while channeling you towards two specific mindsets. These two being Marxism and Liberalism in the context of politics. During my time in the IB I fell into the former, as did my entire circle of friends.

Now I'll admit that the IB did help me in my "redpilling" process by teaching me how to think critically, but that was only after having left school. I am now a lonely fascist lost in a sea of liberals and champagne socialists.

have fun being slowly absorbed by the mainland hong kong bro.

IB is trash, it is a cancer that afflicted my youth, and it helped shape me into the hate filled man I am today. ToK was worthless, the forced community service and other activities outside of class assignments destroyed any chance of a social life for myself, it encourages leftist ideology, and I didn't learn a single damn useful thing in any of my classes that couldn't have been subsituted with their AP correspondents. I'm glad I took so many god damn AP courses back in high school, because those were the only courses worth a damn in college.

I took it, but for me it basically felt like AP just with more essays. TOK was fun, though.

everyone I know who took IB was a conceited nigh-suicidal asshole whose entire personality was taking the course instead of regular classes

I agree when it comes to language it really takes you down a new path and another dimension of analysing language. I mean legitimate analysing the language used in a given text.

IB really forces you to use your brain doesn't it? I feel this education should only be optional to you if you are of a standard though

>while it does help you develop critical thinking skills

It helps you to bullshit constant lengthy papers about nothing substantial. That's the only skill I took from it that helped with college or any other part of my life.

By the time I was a senior after just one year I was already starting to prefer the "non-IB" students for friends over the people I spent most of highschool with.

I am not going to stay here any longer. I hate being in this caged city.

I guess it depends on your school. My high school im Switzerland was fully dedicated to the IB, with no real alternatives.

worth it, TOK actually taught critical thinking, the diploma gave me a year's worth of college credits. More work than your usual US high school experience (more than AP classes), pays off in long run.

by reading comments from other americans it seems the IB should not even be an option in america. I can totally understand why people can act so condescending if they take it (especially americans) but I dont think this education affiliates with and to an extent - work ethics. (also US doesn't need it in the first place with unis)

I mentioned this earlier but there are only two cases where anything meaningful can be drawn from the IB. Either you're a naturally gifted god or you work away your entire highschool life, social life and happiness into the IB, treating like your life and passion. It's pretty fucking disgusting.

Agreed, it does require a lot of critical thinking. Definitely not suitable for everyone.

And the "not recognized by US universities" issue is a very legitimate complaint.

Another positive about it: no religious education. Only six subjects - one of which can be art, or another science subject.

I'm really happy I went through the IB, but then again, got IB-sympathetic universities.

My high school was about 50/50. Ironically the only way I could attend that school was if I was in the IB because it was out of my area, but looking back I would have been better off with a more local normal school even if it wasn't quite as good. All I would have had to do is take the same AP courses as I took in the IB, which are basically standardized US courses and tests for college credit in high school, and I would have benefitted the same while actually enjoying my life.

I was pretty edgy in high school and I went out of my way to annoy the IB coordinators. I was a bit of a hero for that and I enjoyed it.
>stopped speaking spanish in my fifth god damn year of the class because I was sick of it
>turned in a history IA in front of the entire class 3 weeks late
>turned in a higher level math IA with just the intro, it was one page long, got a 2/20 and still got above average overall with my final test score
>threatened to not even do the extended essay, because back then if you had enough total points from other classes you could graduate without it, ended up turning in a piece of trash for a D
>repeatedly got called into administrator offices, one time the principal and vice-principal pretty much begged me to just do the math IA and I told them no

I consider myself pretty gifted in school. I did very well on my grades and tests. IB has no purpose in the US with AP courses and it's just worthless busy work.

I got the Diplomma from the IB. I have to say that the IB is far better than other Mexican High Schools but that's not saying much.

I made my Extended Essay about National Socialism in Mexico and my ToK presentation was about the Islamification of Europe as a for of modern Jihad. Those things are graded by 3 professors from 3 different parts of the world. The essay got a B (breddy good) while the presentation was a D because a team mate sucked quite honestly. They didn't seem to have a big left-wing bias. Maybe it is all about multiculturalism in the developed world but I thought it was great.

>150 required community service hours
Top kek, not really. I did make like 300 hours of valid stuff but that's not what I reported on. You have to make a daily report on your activities so a bunch of us went camping a couple of times and turned those reports in. We just drank beer and did stupid shit but in the report we lied quite heavily. They also are not community service hours. You can practice dancing, martial arts, or whatever and it counts. You can really just drink beer as long as you falsify the reports.

Also, I believe the IB diplomma is next to useless if you don't move to Europe.