Why are Republicans so intent on screwing over MILLIONS of Americans...

Why are Republicans so intent on screwing over MILLIONS of Americans? How much interest does Cheeto have in insurance companies? Sad!

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>Republicans aren't into freedom because they don't want to force into a health insurance plan you don't want.

>Republicans believe in freedom but not freedom to take a shit in public

You can walk into any hospital you twat

>freedom to universal healthcare

what plane of reality am i on

Congrats, fool. You wasted your digits. I hope you're happy.

freedom to positive rights is an oxymoron.

>freedom to universal healthcare
that's the opposite to freedom though.

also please dont use my waifu for political memes

Freedom to universal healthcare is the same as freedom to slaves. Someone else has to pay for your shit and that is tyranny.

These shareblue threads gets worse and worse with each rendition
Remember to sage and slide

This is not the sort of mind broken Froppy I can enjoy.

Trumps was just praising Australias healthcare system. Hes a neocon puppet. If he stuck to his core beliefes wed have universal healthcare. Trump is lame.

You have freedom to buy healthcare, your freedom ends where freedom of others begins, such as when you try to force others into paying for your healthcare. saged

My private insurance offers me much better coverage. KYS

stop making tsuyu say stupid shit

They also hate "new free car every 3 years" freedom along with "buy muh a new fucking iPhone" freedom.

They are just freedom hating assholes.

>Republicans believe in freedom but they don't believe in the freedom to take away peoples freedom

>Freedom to universal healthcare
That ain't freedom, that's fucking forced.

>freedom to universal healthcare
First, stop butchering my fucking language. Second, you don't have the right to take anything from anyone without compensation. That includes my tax dollars, and healthcare professionals labor.

The "freedom to healthcare" is like "the courage to use facebook" it makes no sense as an expression.

What about the "freedom to murder," "freedom to go untreated," "freedom to be oppressed" or my "freedom to the contents of your wallet or you will have the freedom to have your brains splattered on the sidewalk"?

I believe in freedom to all of your money and you r wife, so you have to give them to me now

>Democrats claim to believe in freedom
>But they don't believe in the freedom to not sell a cake to someone

Doesnt even matter. Senate confirms the bill is dead

>I HAVE A RIGHT TO YOUR LABOR AND MONEY
>TAKE CARE OF ME

No (you) for (((ironic shitposting)))

Because that's enslavement of doctors

Yeah! Or how about my freedom to get a free lamborghini!? Fucking republicans! Freedom-hating bastards

freedom give you the oportunity to get things by working for them
demanding free shit is nigger tire behavior

Large population + large welfare state = universal healthcare will never work.

What if I don't want insurance? What if I'm really healthy and don't mind paying out of pocket? Can I be free to choose?

Negative rights versus positive rights bro. You have to right from government doing xyz, not right to cuz.

I've figured out OP's meme structure. It's the "win argument by intellectual pun" meme.

>Freedom to universal healthcare
>Freedom to restrain others freedom
>Freedom to have an authoritarian regime

>doctors are people
>you are not entitled to the labor of others, that is freedom.

READ ECONOMICS faggot retard

Most economists agree that free public healthcare is the best system.

Lol it's not for free, they still would get paid but through taxation. This is literally the most retarded argument I have ever heard.

>Republicans are against freedom because they won't force doctors to provide you with their labour.
Wewlad

How is it the best?

I hope for OP's sake this is bait.

and then everyone is poor under heavy taxation, "true" equality at last.

Find the definition of freedom. Explain how forcing me to pay for your medical bills is freedom. Then kill yourself faggot.

>republicans claim to believe in freedom
>but they don't believe in freedom to rape your neighbor

hey look i can do it too

>freedom to universal healthcare

Better services and less costs. The insurance system is set up so that doctors are incentivized not to cut costs but to raise them. Hospitals are incentivized in hiring numerous bureaucrats to wrestle with insurance companies and this raises costs too.

This healthcare bill is basically two things: tax cut for the rich hidden inside the healthcare bill plus a gift to large employers who do not have to cover their employees now.

Basically Trump gave himself and his millionaire friends a bunch of money on the skin of the rest of americans.

Daily reminder there's fewer people with health insurance now than before Obamacare. A fact the media fails to ever mention.

>they don't believe in freedom to other peoples money
yeah that sounds about right.

Appeal to authority.

>muh right to the product of someone else's labor
Democrats never change.

most informants agreed Iraq had WMD's
most experts agreed Hillary would win the election
appeal to authority is valueless.

democrats claim to believe in rights

but they don't believe in the right to pay for your own healthcare?

A family on average pays 15% of their income on health insurance.

So the private system is basically like having a 15% extra tax on your income.

You would probably need just a 5% tax increase to afford nationalized health cared, thus actually saving families 10% of their income.

Plus even if you have insurance you still have to pay for copays and deductibles (some as high as 5k for a family), so actually the saving from socialized healthcare would be even higher!

The only people who gain from this is the insurance companies and extremely rich people who make their own companies buy the health insurance for them.

STOP MAKING THESE THREADS RETARDS
PAY FOR YOUR OWN SHIT
SAGE

He is the guy who said to read economics, economics is written by economists. So if you read economics you would find out that private healthcare makes no sense.

I need healtcare but can't afford it as a college student
Capitalism is the epitome of Zionist societies. The wealthy only seek to deepen their pockets at the expense of the working class.
You're all being played by the economical Jew and you don't even realize it

I am a White Supremacist, I believe universal health care for all Whites tax paid, that is the Social in National Socialism. The Aryan worker should not have to shell out their money for some drunk boon lipped nigger yo get patched up after sone gang gjn turf war or stabbing, these people are our hated adversaries we dkn't want to pay for these foreign fucks.

Jason Chaffetz is quitting.

Hahahahahahahaha

This line of thinking is a mental illness

This

I don't think OP understand the meaning of the word "freedom". Freedom does not imply you being entitled to fucking anything.

And besides, you are still paying for it, the difference is just that you all put it in a big box and then whoever needs it takes it.

You might as well pay each for their own, especially because as someone who lives in a country with "strong" universal healthcare, I can tell you it doesn't work for shit.

It is extremely expensive in taxes, and the service you get in return is very poor quality, so much so that if you actually care about your health, you will end up going to a private doctor/clinic anyways. On top of almost 50% fiscal pressure.

Not to mention you might not need to use it for years at a time.
So don't cry about it, it is the better solution in the long run. It might require you to be wise about your own money, but it is the better overall system.

It makes sense if you don't want Bernie Sanders masturbating into your wallet.

You do realize that we don't give a shit about your number crunching? We just want the government to GTFO of places where it doesn't fucking belong, even if that means I have to pay a little more for healthcare.

Immigrate to Europe if you want more government intervention, you cuck.

America needs to be broken up into 3 countries anyway. Northeast, North West and then the south can have their shitty 3rd world dictatorship of they want.

Freedom......to universal healthcare?

Do you know how retarded that sounds?

Anyone who wants healthcare can have it if they have the money or insurance. Its the opposite of freedom to force others to pay assloads in taxes just so some drug addicts can go into ER everyday to score some pills

This

>paid but through taxation
eliminating competition. it's like you want shitty 3rd rate doctors for everyone except the rich.

The people who needed free health care were not productive members of society, no.

If you paid taxes, you'd be fucking sick and tired of supporting leeches too.

Funny thing is, the leeches seem to be in favor of supporting useless leeches, always, and in ever increasing amounts.

>muh pigment
get out of here, you're just as bad

>Democrats claim to believe in workers rights

>But they don't believe in freedom to choose work below minimum wage

democrats are racist as fuck

No. We just want a system without the middleman mucking things up and people being able to get what they need without the infection of conservative interests.

go in france and go paid what we paid for the welfare nigger and other gypsie euroshit oh and don't forgot muhammad and jamal

but a higher ratio of black/mexicans with health insurance and lower ratio of whites with it so this is why Obamacare is good. Now it's going to go back to systematic intersectional racism

Freedom to be forced to pay for someone others problems. Dam actually i don't believe in freedom. thanks you opened my eyes

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>still posting in here
You guys are retarded.

What I don't understand is how many right wingers claim to be for freedom and then demand that gays not be allowed to marry, and that burn outs not be allowed to purchase their intoxicant of choice.

>Just a bit more to pay for x, it's only a small increase.
That's what's always said.

You do know that there is already no competition. The doctors contract the prices as a cartel through the AMA and the insurance with the biggest contractual weight is Medicaid (the government) because they have the most people insured.

Actually competition between insurers = higher prices, because insurers accept higher prices from the AMA or otherwise doctors won't accept their insurance.

So the private system actually screws the consumer by inflating medical costs.

Freedom FROM taxes is better

Here's the best form of UHC

>basic maintenance tier stuff free, checkups, glasses, teeth, flu shots, minor surgeries on referral
>businesses no longer required to provide health care but can elect to for a tax writeoff
>which is good because of paying for every individual they pay a flat, but cheaper tax, which, if they elect to pay for coverage themselves can turn into complete negation or even a plus
>this kind of corporate reward behavior is supported by a "health" tax on people which is less than the cost of the maintenance coverage
>people can elect out of their coverage which makes them exempt to the tax
>additional taxes on junk food
>disqualifier for morbidly obese

>dessert is the same as deadly weapons

You do realize that gays wanted marriage, not just "civil union," because of their drama-seeking passive aggressive behavior?

You do realize that marriage isn't as popular today because the family as a concept is being actively destroyed?

Ideals, wealth, place in society, are all passed down through family, so of course the left-leaning political party will want to water these concepts down. Ideals, wealth, and place in society is something leftists want to be controlled by the state.

So basically you are cutting your dick off to spite your wife?

I think you are the cuck my dear friend.

You: spend more money, get a worse service, only because rich people want to make your money. Do you also invite millionaires from wall street to fuck your wife? Do you lick their cum after they cream pie in her? Do you like the taste of their sweaty millionaire balls in your mouth?

I guess you do or you won't defend their interest at the cost of yours. That's what cucks do.

The only rights we have are the bill of rights, get it through your thick head commie.

>freedom to universal healthcare
lel

>Australias

Australia doesn't have 30 million mexican parasites leeching off of it.

The average rural republicuck is so dirt poor they cant think or fathom beyond their next paycheck. They have no concept of going bankrupt because they cant afford health care--they just want that extra $50 for a carton of smokes.

I'm perfectly OK with them destroying their own communities from within, I just wish my yankee tax dollars werent being funneled down there to pay for their food stamps.

millions of people die of sugar induced diabetes every year, more than die from guns.

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>You do realize that marriage isn't as popular today because the family as a concept is being actively destroyed?

50% of marriages end in divorce. This isn't a problem from gays getting married, it's a problem with how easy it is to get a divorce.
Woman actually have many financial incentives to getting a divorce.

Gays getting married won't do shit to make marriage any more of a flimsy sham than it already is.

It's not like people are using the cake to force feed others. If guns were used exclusively for suicide I wouldn't care.

The fact that you constantly demonize rich people betrays the fact that you're a "socialist" on the surface, but secretly fancy yourself a nice, intellectual communist.

This has to be one of the most stupid questions I've ever seen posted here. Back to t_d.

US life expectancy falls for first time in 23 years, with rises for 8 of the 10 leading causes of death (2015)

telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/08/us-life-expectancy-falls-first-time-23-years-rises-8-10-leading/

Life expectancy is US flat lined when obamacare was phased in and is now starting to fall.

This tells you all you need to know about how well Obamacare works.

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>>Australias
>Australia doesn't have 30 million mexican parasites leeching off of it.

yeah, we're actually really good at keeping it in check.

our child care rebate system is a complete disaster though. fucking champagne socialist bullshit. dont copy that; it'll tank the labor market with women and hand all the kids to the state

Australia is the last country I would want to emulate

>You do realize that evangelicals want gays to have "civil unions", not "marriage", because of their drama-seeking passive aggressive behavior?

As you can see this works both ways when you're talking about a total non-issue. Evangelicals are cancer and should be exterminated in work camps.

that pic is just pure word play
>if you believe in freedom, then you must believe in the freedom to not be free.
complete bullshit argument
go kill yourself

universal healthcare is not a freedom, it would be considered a right. Rights only exist in society that can enforce them. Rights are given and voted on by a majority. The majority doesn't want universal healthcare in it's current form because your forcing people who don't need it to pay for people who do. That's not freedom, that's communism.

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>>You do realize that marriage isn't as popular today because the family as a concept is being actively destroyed?
>50% of marriages end in divorce. This isn't a problem from gays getting married, it's a problem with how easy it is to get a divorce.
>Woman actually have many financial incentives to getting a divorce.
>Gays getting married won't do shit to make marriage any more of a flimsy sham than it already is.
ehh; that goes both ways though. if it's a sham, why both letting gays have it? its just a religious thing anyway, and they worship dick, not god.

>not wanting a rich guy to fuck you in the ass is "demonizing him"

So you really ARE a cuck. Is your wife into it also or does she just cheat on you? Must be tough being an effeminate loser.

You want a soda, it's only 2.99 for 128oz!

lol, even from a European...this is stupid and cheap bait

Is this some sort of "arrogant, flawed logic" meme?