Our """universities""" are mindbreaking and desensitizing young, impressionable people

Our """universities""" are mindbreaking and desensitizing young, impressionable people.

My girlfriend is a freshman at a competitive, progressive university. Every freshman has a required visual arts elective they must take in their first year. My girlfriend took one which was innocuously called "History of Electronic Art." It started off harmless enough, they watched some very early, underground documentaries from the 40's and 50's.

As they progressed into the age of the VHS though, the class slowly became more and more disturbing (conveniently after the drop period ended). The pieces the class were shown were seemingly arbitrary, with no connection to mainstream trends in home/amateur filmmaking. They were shown bizarre, avant-garde videos with creepy, sexual undertones, sometimes pedophilic, sometimes homosexual, but always with unnerving imagery.

Some of the videos moved on to showing real, explicit gore-- executions, beheadings. There was a point in the class where they were shown real, penetrative, hardcore pornography.

Many of the themes of the videos include mocking and deconstructing the family unit, white, western culture, and sexual mores. Through the semester my girlfriend has gone through many bouts of depression and anxiety from this class. I continue to ask her what the purpose of anything they're showing is, but she can't seem to find an answer.

How do they get away with this shit? Do parents really not know?

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americancultures.berkeley.edu/students/courses/spotlight-ac-courses
ocregister.com/2017/02/16/occ-student-suspended-for-recording-teacher-speaks-out-files-appeal/
americancultures.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/aces_courses_udpatedmay2016.pdf
youtu.be/detM0cKxWro
youtu.be/oBSvUlkB61s
nytimes.com/2013/08/25/opinion/sunday/does-media-violence-lead-to-the-real-thing.html
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Nobody?

There's few reasons artists love degeneracy.

1) They are humans, and humans are interested in sex.
2) When people recoil they can say that their art had an impact and that the detractors don't understand their genius and exploration of the human condition.
3) If they did conventional art people would notice that they don't have any skills in painting, sculpting, etc.
4) They have a leftist agenda.

>Do parents really not know?
who gives a fuck? not every university has these programs and your gf fucking chose it. it's a goddamned free market, shitbird. if you don't like it, then don't go there

go to trump university if you so choose

All the people you knew were the actors
Well, I'll go to college and I'll learn some big words
And I'll talk real loud
Goddamn right I'll be heard
You'll remember all the guys that said all those big words he must've
Learned in college
And it took a long time

t. real smart teenager

Also the reason they get away with it, is because the art students mostly love the courses since they fit right in.

Nah, it's a pretty depressing topic because leftist cancer is so deeply embedded within the education system that is seems impossible cut it out within our lifetimes. Further, there's no easy response to it, no elections we can use to meme professors out of office. Only choice is to burn the whole damn establishment down or for interested conservative anons to gradually work their way into academia struggling against leftist hypocrisy every step of the way.

Also, it may be a fairly American problem. You guys have a very strong Liberal Arts culture to your universities with these bullshit topics not related to your major. Whereas in Aus and most other countries to my knowledge, you just do what's relevant.
For example, I went striaght from highschool to med school. No premed and certainly no visual arts or SJW electives.

It was a required elective with a course description that did not nearly imply the contents. I'm sure the other required courses were just as shocking and disturbing. They want to desensitize these kids to grotesque sexual deviancy and turn them into younger, numb versions of themselves.

>who gives a fuck?

>How do they get away with this shit?
Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.Take the class,secretly record everything. Now you need a source to disseminate the findings. Start here and branch out to more and more news sources. Tell only the truth and do not embellish.

"Hey OP, I have something to tell you. I stayed after class to talk to the teacher about how I disagree with the videos she's making us watch. We talked for a long time, and she explained some things to me. I don't know how to say this, I started to feel this urge and we started kissing. I'm with her now OP. I can't stop thinking about her pussy. We're going out with her friend Mandingo tonight, she said I'd like him a lot!"

better stay sheltered and cover your ears while in public. make sure to inform your mother whenever someone offends your delicate sensibilities, faggot

>I continue to ask her what the purpose of anything they're showing is, but she can't seem to find an answer.
>Many of the themes of the videos include mocking and deconstructing the family unit, white, western culture, and sexual mores. Through the semester my girlfriend has gone through many bouts of depression and anxiety from this class.

Got to break their spirits when they are young. Get her into Jordan Peterson.

What does this even mean, you stupid cunt? This has nothing to do with "delicate sensibilities". It's just one look into the disgustingly efficient machine that takes in normal, stable, kids in one end and spits out degenerate, blue-haired mental cases on the other end. It's terrifying and sad.

So basically a fat regular dose of Sup Forums webms?

How is this a bad thing? People need to understand the real world isn't sunshine and rainbows.

it's a free market. go to liberty university or brigham young or hillsdale college, etc

stop trying to limit choice

The real world also isn't a series of shitty, overly long, amateur avant-garde art pieces designed to undermine your sense of tradition and morals through repetition and overexposure. The human mind has checks and balances that protect us from outside influence, that allow us to judge certain sources of information with increased scrutiny. That barrier is dissolved when you've been instilled your entire life with a total trust in academic authority, to have that turned on you in your college years.

Actually, she is transferring. I'm sure your daddy's teat is plentiful, but not everybody has the luxury of juggling around from school to school, at the desperate mercy of hoping wherever you land will accept the credits you just wasted tens of thousands of dollars on.

>The real world also isn't a series of shitty, overly long, amateur avant-garde art pieces designed to undermine your sense of tradition and morals through repetition and overexposure.

Sounds like your girlfriend is a pussy.

>Through the semester my girlfriend has gone through many bouts of depression and anxiety from this class.

And cannot handle actual real world things like beheadings and sex.

I hope you know who's behind this.

look, faggot, i paid for my engineering degree with my service to my fucking country. get your fucking fingers out of your ass and you and gf need to learn how to research a fucking school before you sink a fortune into going there

this is your fault for being lazy, illiterate, uninformed and unprepared. good luck in the real fucking world

yea people talk about common core, and I understand that is a problem here in the USA, but you're right... it isn't a one issue thing, it is a demographics issue. the education industry is vastly leftist and some of them are extreme idiot leftists. At UC Berkeley the liberal arts requirements aren't too bad, its like one or two really dumb classes you have to take part of the "American Cultures" and then I think there was an American Government requirement something like civics. They really do not require stuff like this, but yea they trick you and offer it. Edgy pervert art professors figure they can lure lost edgy previously abused/molested kids into the arts department with these classes, that is another motive you may have not considered. It is seriously gross how much "grooming" goes on between teachers and professors in the liberal arts and visual arts departments at major universities.

funny how postmodernism descends into degeneracy, and as usual they're about 10 years behind the actual trend.

recently a student was expelled from California Orange County community college (Orange Coast College) because he recorded the professor ranting about Trump and how Trump supporters are terrible people. He did this because he had already outed himself as a Trump supporter earlier in the semester and this was his only insurance against getting a bad grade and accusing her of bias. He got expelled because he made the recording, its against school rules. Same applies at universities, even if professor gives permission, university does not allow recording.

funny how the scientific method and rational thinking always "skews left"

>He got expelled because he made the recording, its against school rules.
this is actually a federal wiretapping statute. you can't record the audio of someone without their knowledge

quit fucking up the facts

this shit is free market. if you don't like the professor, don't take his class or give him a bad review. if no one signs up they are out of a job

I like the third reason

Get your girlfriend to take pictures or film that shit, user

And instead of loafing around, go talk to the principal about that shit

not at all. the engineering, math, econ, and science departments at UC Berkeley are great. Business school is great. Law school is very liberal and activist, and so are various liberal arts departments. The city of Berkeley is terrible, but there are literally thousands of conservative students on campus, maybe up to a hundred of far right people hiding in the STEM departments. lots of veterans go to UC Berkeley too, and they aren't all non-white.

the american cultures requirement classes are funny guys check this out americancultures.berkeley.edu/students/courses/spotlight-ac-courses
Asian American & Asian Diaspora Studies 143AC - Asian American Health
• Education 190AC, Critical Studies in Education
• Ethnic Studies 190AC, Advanced Seminar in Ethnic Studies
• International & Area Studies 158AC /Peace and Conflict Studies 148AC: Social Movements, Urban Histories, and the
Politics of Memory (PACS)
• Integrative Biology 35AC, Human Biological Variation
• Undergraduate Business Administration 192AC - Social Movements and Social Media

Ignore him, friend. He's a garbage-tier troll trying to derail the topic.

>the class became shit conveniently after the drop period ended
Basically every modern-day university class. It's absurd how common this is.

>this is actually a federal wiretapping statute. you can't record the audio of someone without their knowledge
This is wrong because as the person making the recording AND involved in the class/conversation, at least one party is aware of the recording and consenting to it.

That leaves its legality up to the states, where one-party consent to record is fairly common

not echoing your sentiments is derailing? use your fucking brain
principal? this isn't high school, faggot. the dean is well aware of what the curriculum entails

is there an expectation of privacy in a classroom? i believe it is an issue of campus policy, even if they are using third-party recording laws to enforce that policy. there is a STATE LAW in california about third party recording and that applies both to phones as well as in-person conversations, yes, you have to give people written or verbal notice (sign posted, etc) that you are recording them. it doesn't apply to public speaking ie university lectures. what is a "federal wiretapping statute" for taking out your phone and video recording your professor going on a political rant against Trump? what about all the legitimate students who just want to record the audio of their lectures so they can use it for personal note-taking purposes. California public schools do not allow this, you have to get the state to pay a note taker $35-60 an hour to take notes for you by going through the "disabled students program." some professors will just break the rules but its usually in grad school and smaller classes. for undergraduate education they enforce it due to competition as well as liability reasons.

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just post the article...he was suspended and not expelled. this is just shameful beta material:

ocregister.com/2017/02/16/occ-student-suspended-for-recording-teacher-speaks-out-files-appeal/

if anyone here is interested in seeing a list of the "American Cultures" requirement classes for UC Berkeley, here is a list americancultures.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/aces_courses_udpatedmay2016.pdf

wow okay you are right, he ended up getting suspended not expelled... after getting a lawyer and media attention! he was originally in way more trouble they ended up negotiating down, as clearly he didn't break the law, no expectation of privacy in a classroom setting, unless it is explicitly made so at the time verbally or in writing (or signage). he definitely looks like a beta chad from Newport, but honestly the latina-jew teacher that got him in trouble does a pretty good job of explaining herself...

Orange Coast College student Caleb O'Neil, left, is being suspended for secretly videotaping his teacher, Olga Perez Stable Cox, as she was calling the election of Donald Trump an assault. Among her statements to her human sexuality class: “Living in Orange County is scary, when you know you are surrounded by so many people that are so hateful. But I am optimistic that we are the majority and that we will make a difference.”

Those statutes don't apply in generally public places, such as a public school, and in general only matter when the recording party is not a participatory party, so, for example, I can record a conversation between myself and you without informing you.

yeah, i was incorrect, there was another event that cited the wiretapping statute but the reason most schools do not allow unauthorized recording is that the lectures are paid for by the students and recording them and putting them up on things like youtube is seen as being similar to pirating music. you are basically pirating education

we should compile a list of or rating database of fucked up colleges and to what extent so those of us with children will know to steer them away from the worst of them and not give them any money. Colleges are for learning and sharing ideas, not brainwashing and indoctrination into ideologies. im already steering mine towards STEM or tech schools to learn a trade

>Actually showing up to class
your GFs first mistake right there. freshmen all have this belief that it's absolutely crucial to show up to class otherwise you instantly fail.

it's a fuckin intro level class. all the videos are likely available online, or at least the synopsis of 'em. the exams are probably "write what i want to hear" essays, where it's easy as shit to bullshit together if you have any idea what the prof's opinions are like.

and if the class is really that bad, tell your gf to talk to your prof during office hours about how they think it's fucked, or tell them to talk to the department

and academic conspiracies are generally bullshit. sit in any given department/faculty meeting. everyone's fucked and on their own page doing their own thing. it's usually just looney rogue profs with tenure who are high off their own rented altruist arrogance of what the real world is like, despite never having step foot in it

>t. shia

btw for anyone curious about (((Common Core))), look for Duke Pesta's work

this. based leaf
>brainwashing and indoctrination into ideologies
this is a meme. if you are too psychologically weak and pliable you will fall victim to any kind of teaching whether it's marxism or chirstianity

>Some of the videos moved on to showing real, explicit gore-- executions, beheadings. There was a point in the class where they were shown real, penetrative, hardcore pornography.
So its like Sup Forums then

Looks like i saved some money during my formative years.

>My girlfriend is a freshman at a competitive, progressive university
stopped reading there.

Why do you insist on being such a faggot?

is it the Buddhists again?

>if you are too psychologically weak and pliable you will fall victim to any kind of teaching whether it's marxism or chirstianity

Guess what, buddy? Most people, especially young, impressionable minds, are psychologically weak. Most people are also told they have to go to college today.

What does that lead to? A generation of degenerates rebelling against the "white patriarchal system" of western culture and society. The only thing that's a meme here is you, government welfare queen.

>How do they get away with this shit?

They get away with it by teaching it under the guise of "higher learning". They pretend that they are being objective and unbiased, but all they are trying to do is shape your world view to match theirs.

Source: I took a queer studies course once as an elective, and was forced to read and watch videos about how refusing to acknowledge faggots having sex as beautiful makes you homophobic, and if you don't like trannies but you like women you're a hypocrite.

Honestly fucked up shit.

>shooting at muslims in combat to earn money for college = government welfare queen

really makes my neurons release neurotransmitters

9/10 the professor is a kike-jew. Find out and redpill your girl so meaninglessness and depression can turn to healthy targeted animis against the criminal parasite.

Jew detected

>i voluntarily chose to take a class
>"was forced"

guess what happens to schools that you choose not to give money to? they close

I'm sure you served many tours of duty from the custodial staff, you ingrate.

You can always tell a bullshitter from someone who has actually seen combat, the latter doesn't go around bragging about it and wearing it like a badge of honor. Thanks for helping destabilize the middle east and flood western countries with their fleeing refugees. You really did Isr-I mean, God's work.

Where i can write in?

you're literally 18 years old. you know nothing of the world or combat

>t. rifleman, 3/8 Marines, Kabul '02

>I-I have no argument! Let's call him 18!

Jarhead quality debate skills. And a marine too! How does it feel to be the dogshit on the bottom of the heel that makes up the United States military? Literally everyone gets preferential treatment above you because you're brainless, disposable cannon-fodder. Don't choke on all those government handouts, friendo.

>I-I have no argument! Let's call him 18!
his gf is a freshman so it's logical to believe he is of similar age
>My girlfriend is a freshman at a competitive, progressive university

>How does it feel to be the dogshit on the bottom of the heel that makes up the United States military?
i chose the USMC because it's the least pussy service. i sought hardship

>ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS ARE TERRIBLE, HATEFUL PEOPLE BLARGHAGLDHGOAHGAG

This qualifies as education in Burgerland.

because no one has killed them for it yet? perhaps it will happen if we pray

horseshit

I go to UCLA and it's very similar to how you describe

It's Social Engineering & Leftist Radicalization.

That is what the Colleges are doing.

>oh look im important i risked my life for jewish interests

Daily Dose:
youtu.be/detM0cKxWro
youtu.be/oBSvUlkB61s

>quoting faggot musicians
>faggot lyrics
kys emo kid
>recognizing
I'll kill myself too

WHAT THE FUCK

Can't you just use FIRE?

google "cult indoctrination methods" studied this shit in abnormal psychology. This shit will break most people after a while. leaves them psychologically vacant for reprogramming.

folded and starched jarhead undies in the navy squid?

Not everybody can serve in the military after high school to develop the maturity you fucking moron. You can't ignore what's happening to entire generations of students by pretending to be some macho cunt. Are you actually okay with this kind of brainwashing? Or are you just a worthless troll out to get a rise? Fuck off.

>brainwashing
just stop. it's not brainwashing when you paid and chose to go to that fucking school. these people literally sought out their own path. quit trying to force people to like shit that you like. freedom of choice is one of the greatest things in the US.

Nobody chose to enter a brainwashing course that only showed itself after the drop date passed, meaning you couldn't take another class without getting a failing grade. It was a fucking bait and switch. You're such an irritating prick that I can't believe that you're doing anything but attempting to get a rise out of people. Enjoy getting gassed when these broken millennials decide to put you in camps for your views.

>it's not brainwashing when you paid and chose to go to that fucking school
It's still brainwashing. If you choose to go to a sketchy church and they operate like a cult and thus brainwash you, it doesn't change the fact that they are brainwashing you
>inb4 what if she consent tho
In this case the clear response is that, if what OP is saying is true, then she wasn't given informed consent. She was given a service that was portrayed as something it wasn't. It borders on fraud.
If I offered to put up a fence in your yard, but tore up your lawn in the process and then said "dude you consented to me putting in a fence" that wouldn't be reasonable because I damaged your yard. These people are supposed to be having their minds given tools to protect them from the outside world via critical thinking and are having their minds torn apart in the process.
This sort of brainwashing is especially malicious because it is meant to take away the ability to think rationally. Which is essential for a democratic society to function.

Not when its end goal is to destroy said freedoms and our Nation. Your not a Marine. No fucking way are you a fucking Marine. You sound like a fucking stolen valor faggot.

you are being outrageously dramatic about content in an art class that you are not required to attend even if you are getting credit.

museums in cities all over the world feature and have always featured exactly this kind of work

i guess people that bought tickets should run screaming out of the doors to get a lawyer because
>muh fragile eggshell mind
the course catalogs typically list that disturbing content will be viewed during the course and the student is always within their right to leave class and not participate if at any time they deem the content is too extreme.

fucking grow up. these people are adults now and they can start taking control of their lives and acting like it instead of crying like fucking born victims

get fucked.

>tell some one to grow up
>telling someone else to get fucked
>expecting the majority of people to take care of themselves
Now I know why many burgers hate you pretentious fucks.

i love how Sup Forums complains about SJW's and other such trash that continually cries about being victims but then makes posts about how they are victims because they paid some professor and sat through a 50 minute class where they saw a video of someone shitting on a stapler. this is literally SJW-tier "victimization"

>get fucked.
You get fucked.

You don't get it do you. Your kids if and when you send them to school will be subjected to this.

>women get indoctrinated every year at the university
>their lack of critical thinking skills makes them eat all of this ideological shit
>tfw you realize not giving an education to women is simply the answer to a problem we forgot

Nobody said they were personally victimized by the events. OP referenced his girlfriend, who he even admits wasn't prepared to deal with it. Now imagine that happening widespread across the nation with people ill-equipped to avoid it or endure it. What do you think you'll happen, you hardened cunt? We're talking about the effects on the majority of people, and there's no amount of bragging you can do to dodge the effects of demoralization when your coworkers, your bosses, your politicians, etc., are all brainwashed by this and now wreaking havoc on your life with stupid policies.

No one is forcing your girlfriend to attend this college. If she doesn't like it, leave.

or you could just whine about it on Sup Forums like a little bitch

no, they will be getting a real education in the engineering department. unlike OP's girlfriend i will actually communicate with my children about what to expect in college and how it all works instead of just throwing them to the wolves like an absentee piece of shit. they can see all this art world faggotry plenty on youtube without having to pay for it. in my 4 year engineering degree i had one completely general elective that wasn't departmental or the (socio/psycho/poli) requirement and i chose to take a film class which was excellent. everything else was hardcore education

Also, why is she at college and not at home, barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen? You just let her roam around campus whoring around?

the world should include elements that are dangerous, exotic and different because a monoculture is absolutely uninteresting. it's not my job to put rubber corners on every sharp edge out there to protect the slow squirrels

> with my service to this country
Let me guess you went into the air force?

>stop trying to limit choice
stop trying to enable brainwashing

>post IDs very hard concept
scroll up

>they will be getting a real education in the engineering department
Ohh you think so. What you think and what will happen are two different things. I don't understand how you can be so shut off to the Liberal indoctrination going on in schools. From the cradle to the grave that's their motto.

>brainwashing

no one is buying this meme. these people are free to leave or drop at any moment
you sound like some whiny bitch making a false rape complaint

Claims to be a Marine

>these people are free to leave or drop at any moment
not if they want to get a degree from that place since it's a required elective. Look man, I get it, the gov pays for your schooling. I recently enlisted into the army myself partially for the education benefits. But not everyone has that opportunity nor the time or money to drop everything and go to a new school. What should be being taught to people is not what they are getting. This has nothing to do with free market, these ideas are being pushed.

>museums in cities all over the world feature and have always featured exactly this kind of work
>i guess people that bought tickets should run screaming out of the doors to get a lawyer because
Calling me overdramatic and then making a comparison with no basis isn't very consistent. The difference is the Museum usually is selling the content as something disturbing and is a leisure activity. The primary goal isn't to improve you as a person.
>>muh fragile eggshell mind
Putting "muh" in front of a strawman isn't a refutation. Did the military teach you how not to think?
>the course catalogs typically list that disturbing content will be viewed during the course and the student is always within their right to leave class and not participate if at any time they deem the content is too extreme.
Let's assume this is true and OP is in fact lying. That still doesn't mean that showing this content during what is supposed to be an educational class is good. If the class is supposed to be teaching you, but is, instead, simply showing disturbing content that is still not good.
Let's assume OP is not lying on the other hand. Then the professor is blatantly misleading the students still.
I don't see you defending the teacher's actions. I see you saying "They should just toughen up and leave". Do you consider the professor's actions as good or bad?

Consider that people aren't supposed to see graphic imagery all the time for the sake of their happiness.
nytimes.com/2013/08/25/opinion/sunday/does-media-violence-lead-to-the-real-thing.html

>the world should include elements that are dangerous
But seriously they are poisoning the well. We are seeing good kids going in and coming out all fucked in the head. they are not allowing kids to make their own choices, they are forcing it down their throats. they dont have enough life experience to understand its bullshit.

>look faggot, I paid for my engineering degree by bending over and taking it in the ass from the military-industrial complex. I was lucky enough to either never get deployed, never get wounded in combat, or have some faggy desk job. but yeah I don't get why everyone else doesn't just zergrush into desert countries while politicians and billionaires profit from on the lives of me and my brethren, in exchange for a piece of paper that allows me to get jobs. I mean, it's either that, or being tens of thousands of dollars in debt, or having rich parents, why not pick the obvious option
I wish you would've died in a hole in the desert.

>Did the military teach you how not to think?
I question the fact he actually served, The Corp was resistant on adopting any of obongos restructuring P.C. bullshit. this guy is not Typical.

>you are being outrageously dramatic about content in an art class that you are not required to attend even if you are getting credit.

Actually, retard, class attendance is mandatory. Missing more than two classes is grounds for an automatic F.

>required elective
this specific class is not required. she is required to take an elective from a list of courses and can choose from that subset. this is where it becomes important to start acting like an adult and do your research on courses by looking at reviews of the course online and ask other people that have taken the class

i'm just not buying this "forced" meme

look faggot
not everyone is like you
and she is female, so she is more suspectible to this out of nature

Nice phonepost, jarhead.