Universal Healthcare works

If it didn't, why is it successful in so many other countries?

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Each month I am paid around 1800€.
Actually I'm not, I only get ~1400 out of these 1800 because the State takes away taxes to pay the welfare of parasites, the pension of boomers and the medical bills of sickly weak retards.

I'm never sick myself, why should I pay for them when they don't pay for me?
I believe that if you get a severe sickness then it's too bad but people gotta die at some point anyway. I also believe sickness doesn't happen randomly. Sick people are people who don't eat meat, who eat too much fat, too much sugar, drink alcohol or smoke. Fuck them they deserve to die.

To be fair it kinda sucks in Canada

>successful
>6 month waiting period to see specialist about a pain in chest
>die in 4 months of cancer

If you die, you win!

The US subsidizes defense for almost all of those countries. The money they don't use on military goes to healthcare.

Health insurance needs to collapse. It's a Boomer scam that doesn't work in the modern day and incentives people to not give a shit about their health. It'll also give a taste of what's coming from automation to anyone in the FIRE industry. Best it hits the affluent people who live in Fairytale Land rather than blue collar professionals.

Canadian health care system is spending millions on junkies instead of normal people

also

hospitals filled with
>immigrants
>refugees

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What do you mean "works"? I just started out with my career. Fresh out of school. I would be making 850 Euros but I pay ~150 Euros for health insurance, so it leaves me with 600 bucks. I am never sick and I don't need this bullshit. Fuck you, "it works".

How many if these nations will die in the next 40 years?

All of the white ones.

850-150=700 not 600

people on this board are retarded in the simplest ways I swear.

Except it sucks in most of those countries and I know someone whos had their healthcare suck so bad it nearly literally destroyed their dick. Now they only use private healthcare

My finger slipped, asshole.

Wipe Ahmed's cum off your fingers then

"Works" is subjective. The current US system works fine if you're rich.

>am Canadian
>have eye condition
>apply to see specialist
>have to wait 3 months to get an appointment
>scheduled for 9:30 am on a Tuesday morning
>get to doctors office and there are literally 100 brown people sitting and standing around in waiting room
>have to call into work sick for my 2 pm shift because I still haven't seen to doctor by 1

He forgot to mention his 100 euro holohoax reparation tax

it's not successful adn it's not free.

Right, it's the right form and wrong content. Healthcare is for people who deserve it, not niggers.

It's 500 you fucking retard. Stop posting.

What happens if there are not enough doctors? Legitimate question.

Most of these countries don't have as many niggers as the US

>Switzerland
We HAVE to buy our insurance much like you had to do in the US until yesterday.

hey at least Justin turdeau was declared the sexiest leader in the world

Macron is hotter than Trudeau.

>why is it successful

Successful at what? Driving up prices and killing people with long wait times?

>too much fat
user i have some news for you.
>don't eat meat
Depends on which meats

This is a meme.
A fallacious meme.

The VA works too, it just fucking sucks. Here's B-Shap with more than I know.

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>trampling on the rights of people
>"successful"

I sure love spending one month waiting for a letter postponed until the maximum possible latest date giving me an appointment within the 3 months limit they have (also latest possible date there) only to have the specialist come in, take a cursory glance at you, then have the appointment interrupted by another doctor asking if we're not done with the instruments yet.

There's a reason private health care is big business in Norway and everyone with enough money will go there. Companies also have arrangements with them.

The other countries are ran by somewhat competent governments. So they can conceivable implement some basic universal healthcare. Our government is African tier. The only reason we were ok is because they had no impact on an average citizen. If you give these people any task, there is 100% chance it will be niggers running it, and it will be unusable. Its best if the US government does less.

We have no accountability of our government, we have no feedback. There is no mechanism for adjustments if they do anything wrong. Universal healthcare by the US government will be an expensive disaster.

You should know better dude, unless you were brainwashed in another country with 'free' healthcare

or people who've lived and worked in a country and paid taxes for generations and contributed to the culture and society that gave the country so much extra that they could then take in all the shitty people from shitty countries....maybe take care of them first before they all die off and you're left with another 3rd world shit hole with no postal service....

>pro tip, Canada post is dying and they're thinking of stopping door to door mail services

>The other countries are ran by somewhat competent governments
No they're not. Our government is run by cucks who will do anything your government tells them to.

>basic universal healthcare
It's shit, never ending queues. Just seeing my GP will usually take 2 hours past appointment time. The GP is a glorified specialist in writing letters to actual specialists with our system. If you want something diagnosed, you tell your GP, he'll write a letter to a specialist he thinks might be vaguely in the right ballpark, cue 3-4 months of waiting, one appointment, "sorry, we can't help you", back to the GP for another round of "write a specialist".

The grass is not greener.

America spends more than any other country, this is the problem. Too many tests, the best treatment for any disease.

It costs more and so it means not everyone can have it.

Top kek

At least oil is paying for most of your country's extravagances

God help you poor cucks when it runs out. You'll be Venezuela Part II: Nordic Boogaloo

By the time that happens, I'll be dead and gone.

Probably while waiting for a diagnosis.

AMERICA WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTRY REEEEEEEEEE
THAT WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT FREEDOM FUCKING COMMUNISTS FUCK YOU
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You have no concept of what US government is. Our government is dysfunctional, unmanageable, and unaccountable. European governments have a history of running government owned enterprises. We don't. If anything we did well in spite of the government. They outsource stuff if they really need it to work. Google government cheese if you want to see US government in action. They managed to make the worst cheese in the world. You don't understand that US government is literally incapable of doing anything. And and I really mean it. It's known here, but for some reason outside the country there is a romantic noting that our government is this benevolent force. Our government is Ghana tier with only exception is that they lack the power to do the same shit they would do in Ghana. And they still try. And it's mostly niggers who will be running this healthcare, so you know how that will turn out. It will not be lines, they would literally kill people, sell body parts and try to cover it up. Fuck this shit. Its best they stay away entirely from anything life threatening.

Where's Health Care Leaf when you need him?

>Our government is dysfunctional, unmanageable, and unaccountable.
And you think the above doesn't apply to ours? We have a fucking overclass of career politicians running the shit show and once they get too unpopular, they're off to some well paid job somewhere else in Europe because they paid off the right people with our money.

Our biggest part is the Labour Party, which consists of rich fucking cunts who have never had to lift a finger in their life, they've been groomed since childhood to become the next generation of rulers. The so called hard right Progress Party's leader is a whore for the Bilderbergs who claims we need to reduce immigration, but we can't leave the EEC and Schengen treaty to sort that shit out.

In short, we're just as fucked and the grass is NEVER greener on the other side. It's just another set of dudes doing the assfucking over there.

QQ you had to wait a little bit for a non-emergency

Life is so rough over there

The above applies for the terminally ill as well as long as there's no diagnosis.

None of those countries have over 350+ million citizens like the USA.
None of those countries have 40 to 50 millions niggers like the USA.
Show me the country that has over 9% niggers that can successfully support universal healthcare.

We need to cut that shit out.
I'd rather we nuke them.

Voter ID -- Not a radical idea.

I'm sure your government is incompetent and corrupt. But replace your rich people with ghetto niggers who really hate niggers, and really hate everyone for that matter, and you will approach the concept of what our government is.

The politicians don't even control the bureaucracy. The politicians just are engaged in corruption. Again, the politicians mostly are poor when they come in into politics, you get the idea of the general contempt they harbor to everyone else.

I'm not saying the grass is greener. I'm saying the healthcare is not specifically targeting to wipe out the population. Our government healthcare will have a goal of saving money to steal for themselves and they will really really hate sick people, because they will bother them.

Generally here you try to avoid having anything to do with the government. You see our cops, and they are the good guys as far the government is concerned. They are municipal workers. The Federal bureaucrats are genocidal towards the population.

>The politicians don't even control the bureaucracy
Neither do ours. As a bonus, our bureaucrats are almost impossible to fire as well.

The problem is when you have people with no values and respect for others (niggers and shitskins), leeching off the welfare system asking for free shit all the time without contributing themselves.
Somalis in Norway for example is a huge problem, 70% of them don't work and are racist and disrespectful to Norwegians.

This.
And realistically speaking, our left-wing tendencies would end almost instantly if you were to withdraw that NATO support.

>You'll be Venezuela Part II: Nordic Boogaloo

You'll become Venezuela before Norway, Mr. 60%.

Venezuela is a shit hole for a variety of reasons, most of which it is non-white.

You should receibe some money from the state if you never got ill
I never broke even a bone
They owe me

I don't think you can fire our bureaucrat unless some other bureaucrat does it. I don't think there is any mechanism to even complain. You can sue them, but you will lose in court.

Again, the issue is you have people in government who feel they are a part of the country. Our government workers are the scum who hate everyone, and they couldn't get other jobs (at least it was the case until recently). So we have outright hostile government, where you have agnostic government.

That's why silly things that governments generally do in Europe are not even attempted here. Or done on municipal levels. If the cops were federal government, they would have a solution to preventively exterminate the population.

They are that bad here. The solution is to stay as far away from them as possible. I just want them to be at arm's length from me. Its not socialism that will happen here, it will be NK tier shit if the government gets to run shit how they want. Maybe worse, because they are all niggers. It's a terrible idea to give them any sort of mandate for anything. If anything the mandate should be stripped for whatever they have a mandate to do.

TRUÞ

>feel they are a part of the country
That, we don't have. We do have a boatload of politicians and bureaucrats who sold us to EU for fat jobs when the shit hits the fan at home.

>I would be making 850 Euros
Wtf dude. I get more gibs than your salary.

>I've never been sick, therefore it doesn't work
Why is Sup Forums so full of cretins that need to be hit by a truck of peace?

>only get ~1400 out of these 1800 because the State takes away taxes

To pay for roads, schools, infrastructure, police services, fire departments, health care and yes, welfare services for the needy. Stop being a fag and recognize that you're actually saving money and don't have to worry about the threat of bankruptcy anytime you get sick.

Americans can experience universal health care any time they want.

Take a trip to your local VA or county hospital (the one they send all the homeless with no insurance).

See if you want a government run, state funded hospital.

That's how all the hospitals here are, absolute shit, 9hr ER wait minimum, they make medical errors constantly (no system to sue or report them), non emergency surgery can take years waiting in line, good luck if you have mental health issues - you might get your first shrink referral a year or two after complaining to your doc you want to kill yourself.

Quads confirm free healthcare is shit.

>universal healthcare
>not allowed to make and take my own medications must ask the govt for permission
>can't buy medicines produced in other countries because muh domestic jobs

hmmmm really makes you think

>Universal Healthcare works.
Only until the population reaches a certain percentage of niggers and other shitskins

>needy

based blissful idiot

>welfare of parasites

>why should I pay for them when they don't pay for me?


Where did you get this idea that anyone using a system set up for everyone to use is somehow a parasite and not paying their share?

Universal healthcare eliminates this game between hospitals insurance companies to make the most money and protects people from being scammed out of their money because of technicalities on what their insurance covers.

Not to mention, doctors (since they're paid by the state) make about $60,000/year. Nurses make about $25,000.

Compare that to $250,000 and $80,000 in the US and guess what kind of motivation you're getting out of your medical professionals.

Sweden has an enormous shortage of doctors and nurses because they all just go to school on other people's tax money then move to America to make 5x they could ever dream of making here.

Isn't Varg on welfare?

Let's take a look at the obesity rates in those countries...

Other countries dont have so many fucking fat and willingly unhealthy people.

Wait. Saving money? Compared to what? If a company ran the roads?

Top fucking kek if you think the government is getting this shit done cheaply and efficiently.

You're a fucking retard. Then again, can't blame a leaf for being a leaf any more than you can blame a roach for being a roach.

It does work. The reason it won't be implemented in America is because our country is full of red scare cucks who would rather lick the corporate boot even if it's against their own interests.

Nigger, welfare programs are always exploited to the nth degree by the unscrupulous poor.

Simple example US prisons vs Norwegian prisons. That's the difference between having niggers and not having niggers. I bet you anything US prison costs me more in taxes than your prison costs you.

I know government sucks in Norway, and long term they fuck you up more, because they destroy everything they touch. But it's not instant. Our government makes everything into a fucking prison including public schools, and with Universal healthcare it will be hospitals too. You will have a higher chance of getting killed in the hospital than on the street if they get their way. They are that bad.

Our health care system is going to crash and burn within 20 years if not earlier.

social healthcare only works when you're mono ethnic and have little class difference.

Because your country is overrun by leeches and they will use it to leech you even more. NOTHING works in the US because the US is rotten.

>I bet you anything US prison costs me more in taxes than your prison costs you.

This is because private prisons have created a completely fucked up criminal justice system--which is ironic that you bring this into the conversation since privatization is also why the US health care system is garbage.

I wouldn't expect a trumpcuck to think this critically about anything though. That's why your communities are literal dumpster fires. Do us a favor and die of diabetes complications already you fat hick fucks.

Unless you want to forfeit a majority of your income to the state so it can be sprinkled everywhere... thats why its successful. But no one wants to forfeit that much of their wealth

>Telling another country their system doesn't work
>Spain
>50% "youth" unemployment
>"Youth" is persons under 40

You tell 'em Spain.

If that's your definition of rotten, Spain has already decayed

Go live in Europe and require any medical care that isn't an absolute emergency. Go see if you're still happy paying 50% taxes for it.

Enjoy it.

Then again, you probably would enjoy a nice anal reaming since you're a fucking cuck.

Again, I'm explaining it to you, they probably had to privatize the prisons, because politicians get a cut and because it's possible its cheaper to privatize. Our government is not even created to be functional. It's been created by lolbertarians, and has grown. Thus all this shit. I get the problem. You don't understand what niggers and lobertarian government can do. I'm not even a Trump cuck. I think he was a lesser evil, but I don't think it matters who runs our insane asylum.

I just want to leave the Western sphere, but the other options are just as unacceptable. I'm not a hick either, I'm a 1%er. I'm scared of what will happen here to the point I would temporarily go to some shitty European country while this shit blows over. Would I like it? Probably not. But at least I will not fear for my life. This shit show is headed towards SA results.

My buddy spent 3 week in the hospital just because he ate too much McDonalds which completely fucked his gallbladder. He recovered in like 2 days, but the hospital kept him there for 3 fucking weeks just to siphon more funds from the taxpayers pocket.

Also it takes like 5 hours of waiting in the emergency room just to get help.

There are 196 nations on this planet
>lists 29

Yes, he posted the nice ones you twat. Do you think he'd make much of a point listing the shitholes?

fuck old people. just let them die. YOLO

>UK
>Nice

It's pretty bad that whenever a canadian wants to have a medical procedure done they have to come down to the US to do it unless they want to wait for years to get it done.

we should honestly, aside from poland and the balkan states there doesnt seem like much purpose to put them in france or germany.