Would Bernie Sanders have beaten Donald Trump?

Would Bernie Sanders have beaten Donald Trump?

Bernie is a better person than Hilary but his views are radical socialism. kinda iffy about wether he'd do better.

No, he couldn't even beat based Hilldawg

socialist jew beating a white american? Absolutely no chance, maybe in 20 years.

too close to tell

but that vector is closed now.


The problem as I'm sure you're well aware is that Obama gutted the democratic party, as typical of corrupt black politicians.

You need to get off the virtue signalling sjw kick. Find someone close to center who also wants borders and jobs and can turn into a fireball when debating, and run them on the dem ticket.

Absolutely make sure they can take a beating as well as they can give it.

the same "rural suburban retards" would've still voted for trump and he would've still won the electoral college because of this.

Bernie Sanders couldn’t even win a Bernie Sanders rally.

yes

yeah probably, the debates would've been outright disastrous for Trump.

easily

no. absolutely not. he would have to win states. getting redditors jazzed up is not a good indicator of broader appeal.

hahaha all the shills in this thread.

Bernie would be a pathetic old man on the stage unable to attack Trump in the slightest, just like he failed to attack Hilldawg on anything. Trump would have torn him apart on stage like pay per view UFC. God I wish Bernie got the nom so I could watch that level of murder on live television.

Easily. The only reason Trump won was so Hillary wouldn't win.

>Bernie is a better person than Hilary
Doesn't take much to be better than her. He is still a lying kike.

no

Bernie was a cuck in every sense of the word

>1.22 MB PNGBernie Sanders couldn’t even win a Bernie Sanders rally.

lel!

1. Yes.

2. But the democrats would never ensure he was nominated. He is too much of a threat to their corporate interests. They'd rather go with Hillary and lose.

Not a chance. Trump is an Alpha he would have wiped the floor with Bernie. Guy had some nice ideas but never feasible.

definitely

No, not even close. You know how Hillary's support was all focused in the liberal strongholds? That would have happened to Bernie too but with the added drawback of doing even worse in the South than Hillary did.

not a chance

>Radical socialism
What has he ever said that isn't already happening in Europe? Last i checked, there's no radical communist countries in Europe.

Yes but your jewish masters didnt let him run.

No, though I think the electoral map would have looked different.

We all know the DNC cheated to support her

And 3 million less Democrats wanted him.

The Ted Cruz future doesn't look so bad right now.

Yes.

Bernie was and is a push over.
He doesn't have the ability to verbally defend himself unless he has a canned response.
Hell, when he announced his running on Bill Maher's show he had a hard time even getting it out.

Yes. If only because "muh free shit".

I think it would have been closer, but I still think Trump would have won.

I unironically think Trump is a genius, like 150+ IQ.

Sometimes he speaks unintelligently but I think he does that in order to be more relatable or even underestimated. I've seen a few interviews and snippets where he's extremely well spoken and masterful. There's a lot more going on behind the scenes, and in his mind, than people want to give credit for. Some people are just natural winners and some are natural losers, Trump is without question a natural born winner.

I've made this argument before, but if Trump is as bad as the liberals claim (stupid, childish, dumb, puppet to Bannon or Putin, etc) then how did he win the election? In a nation of over 300M people, they're saying Trump was the best Republican to step forward, and no Democrat had the power to stop him? And he's a dumb child? Really?

Trumps strength is exploiting weakness, and Bernie has none.

Bernie IS weakness.

WHY?

Sanders would have easily beaten Trump in debates. He's objectively more intelligent, more well-spoken and understands what's happening in the world.
He still would have lost the election because he isn't good at using fear and ignorance to rally hordes of gullible morons to follow him. That was the only thing Trump knew how to do, and he did it well.

The Democrats would have taken the same approach the Neocons did agains Trump: try to knife him in the back, let the other guy win and hope he fucks up enough for you to run whoever is "next" as a proper puppet candidate.

He espouses the philosophy of the weak, he caters solely to the weak, and proved time and again how weak he is during his campaign.

Why is he this way? I have no idea.

Sanders vs Cruz would have been interesting from a political standpoint

But i guess most americans dont really understand politics, so they just elected the candidates that talk the least about politics & the most about eachother...

Thankfully we will never know due to the DNC rigging the nomination. Thanks DNC.

YOU SEEM LIKE A MEANIE

No.

There'd have been a swarm of 18 year olds coming out to vote, and most other democrats would have kept home.

He's worst than Trump and he would have put us in the right track for economic failure.
But given the situation back in late 2016, yes Bernie would have beaten Trump for sure.

>Run ads of Bernie saying he's a socialist.
He didn't have a chance

No bernies debates would have been laughable

Hillary knows hot to debate, she has been refuting and deflecting her actions her entire career

because his whole platform was based on how its okay to be weak, how the weak will be cared for and nurtured. It's pathetic really. Trump campaigned on strength and pride. I think any nation would rather see themselves as strong and proud rather than caregivers for the weak and pathetic

No way. Socialism is a dirty word here, and Bernie isn't anti-SJW.

No, but it would have been a close race.

Bernie should think about breaking away from the DNC.

All of Europe with the exception of Hungary and Poland is an SJW college campus.

He is weakness but he has no weakness. Hes a lazy jew and used that to propel himself through politics

He should join the Green Party. It's a great place for kooks who hate the establishment and are too left for the Democrat Party.

>Sanders vs Cruz would have been interesting from a political standpoint
While I didn't particulaly want Cruz, I agree with this. Their town hall debate on the future of the ACA was pretty good, though it made me seriously question how Sanders has a following to begin with.

Sanders has a following because we allow 18-year-olds to vote.

sad but kind of believable.

>muh city peeple voted for hillary hurr durr

Green party is controlled oppostion to pass de-industrialization.

No.

No doubt Bernie would've lost, the real question is would he lose worse?

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Fuck that little pussy ass nigga, he's a bitch. Hopefully he dies before 2020.

I love how he cries about corporate taxation and low tax rates for the rich, when he owns 3 homes and paid less than Donald fucking Trump.

Bernie wouldn't be able to turn swing states.

>jewish masters wouldn't let a literal jew run

No. Democrats weren't radicalized prior to Trumps win. He would have won in the state that Trump flipped, but most Democratic voters didn't at the time think is was possible for a radical to win anything. "He would push the centrists away."

They (the voters) learned too late that Centrists are completely irrelevant when the Status Quo is unpopular.

The DNC still hasn't learned that same lesson, and is largely concerned with trying to neutralize it's radicalized Progressive base behind closed doors.

They should've gotten someone else to argue for Obamacare.

We'll never know thanks to the corrupt DNC.

Is that Diablo 3 artwork?

Honestly, as someone who predicted Obama winning, I think so.

He has an appeal to mass uninformed normies. Free college gets a ton of poor riled up.

lol if he would've he would've

Watch the bernie vs cruz debate.

All bernie does is say shit like "the one % should pay their fair share" While cruz keeps trying to explain to him why it wouldn't work.

Extremely high probability since all Hillary's supporters would have fallen in line to support Sanders just like they did to support Obama in 2008. However Sanders would have had a much stronger presences in the Midwest, especially in states like Wisconsin and Michigan which he won in the primaries because his economic populist message resonated with white, working people as well.

Considering how it only came down to a 100,000 votes in those states. There's a damn good chance Sanders could win. Don't forget that Trump wanted to debate Sanders and when Sanders called out his bluff, Trump ran away.

You misspelled "the one pahsent should pay theh feh sheh."

Yeah, at several points he was arguing against it without realizing it.

Friendly reminder that Bernie is /ourguy/

No

Yes but it was impossible for him to win vs Hillary due to inner circle works within american political elite.

>"hmm i can probably win the election, make all the changes i want to see and avoid a disaster i am so sure of happening, but i'll throw in my towel with another candidate and give her all the money i raised for my campaign"

redditors actually believe this

Wow, I'm a Cruz missile now!

I'd like to try to address all of those points, user.

>I think it would have been closer, but I still think Trump would have won.
This is unfortunately true, just because of the corporate interest invested in Hillary. If the DNC's funders didn't want him pushed through, how would the larger scope of the country's?

>I unironically think Trump is a genius, like 150+ IQ.
Why? A broken clock can be right twice a day, but I legitimately want to know why you think he's more capable than he's been letting on.

>but if Trump is as bad as the liberals claim (stupid, childish, dumb, puppet to Bannon or Putin, etc) then how did he win the election? In a nation of over 300M people, they're saying Trump was the best Republican to step forward, and no Democrat had the power to stop him?
He won because of the electoral college situation, but, ultimately, the reason he one was because Republican voter turnouts are nothing if not consistent. I don't have the graph, I wish I saved it, maybe another kind user will post it, but in the graph, you can see that Republican turnouts over the last 20 years have more or less stayed the same. Practically the same amount every election, while the Democratic turnouts have varied tremendously. This election had the lowest voter turnout in the past forever, period, so much so that Trump's honest-to-god voters only counted for 25% of the country's population. Some voted for Hillary, some voted for third-party shills, but the rest simply didn't vote. They didn't care to associate with either candidate. That alone speaks volumes of America's political situation. The Democrats should never have run with Hillary, but there is no reason to think that Bernie was the better option. The Clintons have been political kryptonite for years now, half the result of their own fuck-ups (there are way, way worse politicians out there) and half the result of successful smear campaigns, culminating in the strategic timing of recent election events.

Bernie probably some kind of horrible skeletons in closet.

BIGLY.

Wtf I love letting Jews cheat and steal to make money

that's because Cruz is a master debater

I want to the Berniecucks to leave. Your senile faggot couldn't win a primary against someone that is largely a Republican in the Democrat party.

>muh superdelegates
Clinton still won more regular delegates.
>muh voter suppression
Clinton won more open primary states than he did, where Sanders shined were caucuses which are horribly unrepresentative.
>muh DNC meddling
The DNC certainly did have a clear favorite, but at the end of the day 3 million less actual Democrats wanted Breadlines Sanders.

>I unironically think Trump is a genius, like 150+ IQ.

LOL

>Political career goint back to 1981
>No one had ever heard of him in 2013
>Spews Occupy Wall Street talking points
>Should be President
Reddit believes this.

this

the old commie couldn't even win fucking Commiefornia

>living in a hypothetical world because you lost

sorry to burst your bubble but trump still wouldve won

If facts were completely changed, and Bernie hadn't been a Democrat sheepdog--also eliminates The Globalists and their agenda--then no. Trump wouldn't have faced the brainwashing onslaught that initially poisoned his well.
Instead of being a racist he's have a bit of a nutty conspiracy theory that Mexico, like Cuba, empties their prisons into the U.S. which the data seems to backup.

People think so, but I don't. He'd have done better than HIllary in the states she carried for sure, but most states just don't like Commies.

My best guess is we'd be looking at the same electoral college victory with a slightly bigger spread in the meaningless popular vote.

>I unironically think Trump is a genius, like 150+ IQ.

This has to be bait

Thanks for taking the time, but honestly your explanation as to why he won sounds like the usual liberal sound bite.

Really break it down, if Republicans are historically consistent, then that's no mystery to anyone, the Democrats would have known the Republicans would vote consistently.

If the Democrats really hate Trump as much as they seem to, with all of the protesting, the unrelenting media and pundits lambasting him, the riots, the protests, the general widespread hate, then wouldn't that have motivated the Democrats to vote in force?

And back to my original point: if even a fraction of the criticism against Trump is accurate, if he is stupid, childish, ignorant, imbecilic, if he is just a mindless puppet for Bannon or Putin or some other shadowy figure, if Trump is so awful, then why didn't a better, more intelligent, more likable, more presidential Republican candidate get the nomination instead? And if Trump really is all of these things as the media and general public would have us believe, and if no one really cared about Hillarys emails, and thought that Hillary actually was more likable and more fit for the job, why did she lose so miserably? Or, why didn't the Democrats find someone better to run against Trump? I mean if Trump really is all of these things, it shouldn't have been difficult for the Democrats to find someone that could heave EASILY destroyed him, right... right?

I ask these questions and all I ever hear are the same sound bites over and over again. Explain to me why if Trump is so childish and idiotic, he somehow was able to bumble his way into the Presidency? Doesn't that prove Democrats ineptitude more than anything? I mean they can't even beat an alleged retard!

bernie willingly threw his support in for hillary

nobody stopped him from beating hillary fair and square and then taking trump to town

Cruz's future looks cool as fuck. Love the Victorian setting. Hillary's future looks cool if could make it as a judge like dredd

Hillary got the conservative vote in some places. Trump would have won Nv, Nh, Nm, and maybe even Vermont.


Bernie would have gotten more votes in states that hillary had already won.

Easy Trump victory.

Trump would have made a deal with the establishment (The Art of the Deal!) to keep Bernie the "democratic socialist" from taking their money. Then he would have demolished him in the debates. Then a lot of Democrats wouldn't have voted without a man of color or strong womyn candidate.

I don't know. Would rural retards choose Sanders over Trump?

>let's play sonic

He's going to be 79 years old in 2020, there's no way he will be running again.

He'd have done worse in the south but maybe been more competitive in the rust belt. Still the same result.

>Last i checked, there's no radical communist countries in Europe.
>what is the EU

no