Embrace MGTOW

Not the pussy "I still fuck sluts" version. Not the pussy "I still masturbate to porn" version.


Full celibacy. Marriage is fine as long as it is with a virgin and has the intention of procreation. Any other non-platonic contact with women should be kept to a minimum to reduce temptation. All sexual thoughts and triggers should be removed. Any momentary lapses when lust overcomes your defenses should be met with internal disgust and repented immediately after.

Anything else is beta-cuckery and you know it. Anyone who disagrees is a weakling, a married man who has his balls in a vise, or a filthy roastie.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=u51OxZF1ltI
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undateables
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

These should be your guides and examples.

>implying the crusaders didn't rape and fuck whores

lol

>Implying the Christian men of the past were as degenerate as you.

lol

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Faggit confirmed

>Embrace MGTOW
>Marriage is fine
Pick 1

>Marriage is fine as long as it is with a virgin and has the intention of procreation
There are no unicorns

AWALT

They would no longer be MGTOW but I accept that this mission is too difficult for some men and want to give them the hope of an out IF they meet the mythical "virgin".

And?

Blatant kike shilling to reduce our birthrates.

Very pathetic, it must suck being so ugly that you convince yourself that sex isnt fun even though youve never had it. I havent had pussy in 11 months and im fuckin dyin over here. Oh what id do to have my ex's big fucking tits in my face and those puffy little nipples in my mouth as shes bouncing up and down astride my blood gorged cock and shes moaning and throwing her head back and those long lucious brown locks of hair move to the rythm of our love...the screams and helpless little yelps of pleasure she would let out as i slammed her head down and held her arms behind her back as I go power mode and fuck that pussy so hard she starts cumming and you can see it gripping so hard that the lips stretch out with every thrust of my hard dick. The way her eyes look at me like im doing something magical to her as my hands were around her throat and her legs resting on my shoulders and she lays there in helpless ecstacy. I dont get why she left me I fucked her so good.

tl;dr

I have had sex though. It was alright. Not worth it. I know the urges can be very powerful sometimes, and the temptations very strong, but resisting them is a cross we must bear if we are to become more than animals.

That's not fair, user, as I gave you an out for procreation even though I would normally say All In or All Out.

Hey, whats going on big guy?

>>You tripped my wife, I saw you with my own two feet.

Real men self castrate.

>I dont get why she left me I fucked her so good.

Res ipsa loquitur

Wasting it on whores is basically cutting it off.

Artificial wombs are superior for reproduction

>thanksobama.gif

All women in the whole wide world are the same way?
All women are under 5'10. No female has ever been over 5'10. I have never met a female over 5'10. All my friends tell me about girls that are under 5'10.

MGTOW is the superior lifestyle choice for beta males that have self respect and don't want to be sacrifices for manipulative thieving women.

There might be some, but they are obviously very few in number and command a much higher market-value than most men can afford.

This is true, but only if they no longer engage in the pussy-worship of slut-fucking and masturbation. It is also good for Alphas, but they are too stupid to know that.

This is a slide thread. Sage and move on.

> Implying you have no clue about history and are a degenerate

lol

I have engaged in degenerate behavior before, but no longer.

I will sage my own thread with this reply to prove I am no shill, mr 1 post by this ID

That's called Christianity not MGTOW

Christian Warrior Monks are the ultimate end of MGTOW.

You still have your dick? Do you like having a dick between your legs, faggot?

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Your thread isn't worth 2 replies in total. You faggot defeatists just whine because you can't get a decent woman. Just an hero already, you've already removed yourself from the gene pool.

Completely wrong. Surrogacy or other new methods. The eradication of diseases. Be a fucking faggot or go home

>I can't get laid - the post

I said nothing about defeat and there is a very real mathematical reason why most men will be unable to find a decent woman. Of course I cannot attract a decent woman. I am a 6/10 who is 5'11" and I make $15/hr at a hard-labor job. Any actually decent woman could find much better than me and that is a fact. I'm not bitter about it, it's just true. Decent women are maybe 3% of the population of women. I am probably about 50% mark.

Just because I have a hard time finding women who I can respect or who respect me does not make me worthless. I have a purpose. And so do all the other men.

You should not trample on your brothers for the approval of whores.

single fatherhood is immoral and so is faggotry.

I could get laid by slutty women. Hell, I could go to the bar right now and pick up some drunk ass ho if I wanted. Maybe not tonight, but if I put in enough effort, eventually one of them will bite.

I want more out of my life than burying my cock and soul in some used-up, cheap pussy.

You're ignorant if you think AWALT is literal.

Of course there will be outliers
But they are so few and far in-between that the search for them is not worth the risk

Sure you could, faggot.

If the thought of fucking pussy fucks you up so much that you can't get on with your life you're Elliot Rodger tier. Go shoot up some place so we have something to laugh about. That's the most you'll be able to do with your life with those anxiety levels.

>99.99999666% of people throughout human history have been cucked and are headed to hell. We must be overpopulated because of these cucks!

Gtfo, kike shill

Any man who is not complete genetic reject could.

It doesn't fuck me up that bad. Anyway you're dumb. Elliot Rodger wanted pussy, I don't want pussy. He based his entire life around women, but I am suggesting a total rejection of women in general. In fact, my system would probably have saved Elliot and all his poor victims.

I don't really have anxiety anymore, and anyway, what do you gain by attacking me? Who am I? Turn your weapons on the system.

27% of women either lose their virginity to their fiance, or to their husband still, in the 2010s.
I'm going to be honest with you and say that 6/10 will be enough for most of that 27% - you're still above average.
5'11, doesn't matter. You're tall enough for a short girl (under 5'5) to be able to wear heels with.
$15/hr. So long as you can support her and any children you have that's fine. If you can't, find a better paying job. You're in charge of your life.
There are women out there who will respect you - look in places that traditional women go. Soon as you meet her you'll know that MGTOW is not the way to happiness.

MGTOW as the Jewish shill that tells men to give up and become anime-masturbators and constantly beats them down with reverse-PsyOP is not the way to happiness I agree. So let's co-opt it for all the men who are actually searching for purpose and are wandering in this wasteland all alone.

Maybe I can, but there are others who cannot. I will not leave my brothers behind.

Rape is final redpill. You can literally have sex with any woman you want.

>that fucking commercial
youtube.com/watch?v=u51OxZF1ltI

Let me get this straight, you are a 6/10 and you only consider dating the top 3% of women i.e. 9.7/10?

Jesus man, poor, ugly AND irrational is a terrible way to go through life.

Thank you for leaving the gene pool.

I disagree and my wife's pet name for me is "Yes sir".

You're sad little beta boy that will eventually turn to pedophilia or shoot up a theater probably in some job where you can hide your pedo tendencies because adults are too scary for you.

If you have any shred of testosterone of course it does. Though maybe you clipped your balls off, who knows.

There is no system to rage against, humans literally have never had it easier in history. Those fucking crusaders you idolize so much raped everything they could before dying of dysentery at 25. Literally all you need to be successful in life and to enjoy women without getting fucked over is to not be a total fuckwit. There is no excuse to get heebee jeebees around women with the amount of resources everyone has to figure their shit out

You are the closest thing to an enemy because if people follow your advice and opt out of fucking women we're gonna end up like jap herbivores with niggers breeding us out of existence in a generation.

sex isnt the answer, power is

This Eliot Rogers wannabe is only willing to date the top 3% of women.did you catch that? Don't help this faggot. People like this need to live alone.

I believe it should be thrown out entirely. Expose it as the bullshit that it is. Aligning yourself to a 'movement' like this is a terrible idea. Just help eachother find good women, instead of this mens club that glorifies being alone.

>Embrace MGTOW
> Full celibacy

Why do you people recruit? Literally nothing stops you from this lifestyle, so what possible incentive is there to convince others of doing it?

You're fag enablers, just like the supposed celibate monks.

mgtow is a jew concept kill yourself op.

All of these shitposting threats sent my Westwood Federal building in LA being arson'd thread to the archive.

Nope. MGTOW has an entirely separate secret agenda.

Looks don't really matter. I was talking more about their personality and moral behavior. As long as she's not an uber-troll than that's perfectly fine. Most women are cute enough.

I have plenty of testosterone. Of course the urges are very strong. A man should be able to resist his animal urges.

There is a system to destroy. Now who is the defeatist? The holy men of the past were not degenerates, stop believing this idiotic meme.

The Japs are not Christian, so this does not apply. Fucking tons of women does not produce children, as men have more promiscuous sex now than ever before and we have less children than when almost all WW2 vets returning home were virgins. You have been tricked. Come back to us!

See, I don't pursue relationships either, because it's not a fiscally responsible endeavor with my current income, and I'm kind of apathetic about the whole thing anyway. But I don't go around acting like I'm hot shit because of my life choices.

>Less celibacy than ever before
>More fags
>Less children
>Less marriages
>More divorce
>Jews taking over everything.
Wake up.

I think almost all women who are not obese are very cute. I see physical attraction in most women because I'm not brainwashed by the Jew media to only think 9/10 super goddesses are good looking. Almost all girls are cute if they take care of their bodies. I was talking about morals.

t. Moorish mongrel

>>Less celibacy than ever before
>>More fags

More like less marriage, more premarital sex, more fags.

More perverse and ungodly fag enablers like yourself.

That leaves all the lonely and confused men in the wilderness. The whole poiint is that there aren't enough good women to go around anymore, and instead of pretending like there is I think men should begin finding other purposes rather than thinking the only thing that makes a man successful is if he has a woman.

I'm not hot-shit. I'm kind of a loser.

How am I a fag enabler?

You literally just repeated what I said. More degeneracy at a time when there is less celibacy. Maybe the lack of celibacy did not cause the degeneracy (it most likely didn't) but you cannot then say that celibacy causes degeneracy if there is less of the alleged cause but more of the alleged effect.

Stop attacking and think. What is godly about chasing after cheap pussy?

MGTOW is what those lonely and confused men flock to to rationalise their loneliness instead of trying to find happiness for themselves. It's a false flag under a false banner. You are hurting them more than helping them.

Wrong. MGTOW are literally going to crash the system. They need white men to still pay taxes to support the gibmedats and MGTOW will crash the system long before the demographic shift is complete. MGTOW plans on enslaving the daughters of the single mothers when the welfare state is gone

While the conversation on here will steer into shit festivals, the important thing is to remember that sex is ONLY for reproduction. Now there is no shame in the fact that sex is very pleasurable and feels good. However, there is shame if you isolate the pleasure free from it's natural purpose (having children).

Chastisity is the way to go. I haven't had sex or masturbated in 6 months and I've never thought more clearly, quickly, or had as much energy. Most people think I'm on speed (seriously) but I just have a ton of energy and happiness now. It's sort of funny that people make fun of virgins. Honestly I wish I was one. Anyway have a nice night.

>Becoming a genetic dead end at the slightest hint of adversity
>Cult like recruitment for new members

You people are more toxic than then sodomites. I'd rather associate with Blair White than you dopey fucks.

Pictured - the natural conclusion of any MGTOW meetup.

>The system is shit. Guess i'll just go along with it.

The weak will always hold back the strong, enabling the parasites to suck idiots dry.

Your entire ideology is based on you wanting (I'm sorry, being willing to "settle" for) a woman way out of your league while being a loser piece of shit unwilling to improve yourself. Just like the holy men you idolize you sexually represd yourself which is the one thing 100% guaranteed to turn you into a fucked up degenerate like muzzles and pedo priests

You have one life which you were lucky to get at the best time in human history and you're fucking it over for no reason.

And being promiscuous does help you procreate because it teaches you how to get good with women which lets you pick out the woman you ultimately want do shit on your terms. You can no more have a good relationship with a 9 than you can waltz into the gym and bench 300 pounds.

>How am I a fag enabler?

You're literally recruiting lonely men and unsuccessful men into some perverted movement that's all about praising men and hating women, and ostensibly not having sex.

What the fuck does that sound like to you?

Cloisters where men have been practicing what you preach are known to be nothing but closeted homosexuals and perverts since time immemorial. How the fuck are you going to be different than people risking their immortal souls over the same thing?

> you cannot then say that celibacy causes degeneracy

It does. Celibacy is unnatural and immoral. It's against your biological and spiritual purpose. Neglecting that part of yourself breeds degeneracy as much as living a hedonistic lifestyle.

This too is old news, but apparently needs to be restated.

>Stop attacking and think. What is godly about chasing after cheap pussy?

The opposite of hedonism is not MGTOW you fucking retard.

>MGTOW
How old are you, user, 12 years old?

Okay, but instead of telling them:

"Tough luck buddy, go out into the meat-grinder and keep failing."

Why not give them a purpose?

Thank you, this is what I'm talking about.

You don't know anything at all. Silly tool. I already said I think most girls are cute.

>And being promiscuous does help you procreate
Evidence proves you wrong. Get the fuck out, weakling.

he said marriage senpai

>It does. Celibacy is unnatural and immoral. It's against your biological and spiritual purpose. Neglecting that part of yourself breeds degeneracy as much as living a hedonistic lifestyle.
Prove it.

>The opposite of hedonism is not MGTOW you fucking retard.
The opposite of hedonism is chastity. Chastity requires celibacy, either prolonged or temporary. THINK FOR YOURSELF! You are promoting Jew propaganda:

>No goy! You HAVE to give in to your urges!

This is retarded. Open your eyes!

Encouraging them to believe all women are against them is a purpose? You're delusional.
I was a virgin until I got married at 20. Sex is for procreation, this isn't debatable. The purpose of men is to improve themselves so they can attract a good mate and have strong children with her, nothing more and nothing less. MGTOW is contradictory to that.

This is the gayest most commie shit I've ever seen.
Literally can't tell if larping as IngSoc or Muslim, either way please do not reproduce, beta genes like yours are better lost.

>best time in human history

The men of 2200 will mourn that we had to endure lives without waifu bots.

>Prove it.

Like I mentioned, cloisters. If you want to defend the most salient example of the lifestyle you're preaching, start there.

Why are there so many closeted homosexuals in cloisters?

> You are promoting Jew propaganda:

You're the one regurgitating;
DON'T MARRY
DON'T REPRODUCE
CONSUME
as a fucking lifestyle. Are you going to pretend like white people aren't told about overpopulation and the "child free" lifestyle fucking daily?

I never said anything about the motives of women. You are arguing with a strawman. I understand that because I have co-opted the title, you think that I must agree with every single thing they say. I don't. I merely think the title is useful for spreading a similar, but different message.

>I was a virgin until I got married at 20.
Good for you. You have never even come close to dealing with sexual pressure.

>The purpose of men is to improve themselves so they can attract a good mate and have strong children with her, nothing more and nothing less.
The purpose of a man is to gain the approval of women? What kind of nonsense is that? Women do not give a man his value. Neither do children. Sex is for procreation, absolutely. But Man is not purely for procreation. What then for the men who CAN'T procreate (you want to pretend like they don't exist)? Are they just screwed? Fuck them? Who cares about them?

I care about them! I will not leave the most vulnerable and most in need of help behind. I will not sell them the bullshit of

Your only purpose is to have women like you. If women don't like you than you are a failure and you should kill yourself

piece of shit philosophy. Some of those men DO kill themselves and that wounds my soul. I will not be a coward and turn my back on them. They are our BROTHERS!

>weakling

Lets see, who'd have an easier time making a baby with a cute wholesome waifu, someone like me who can pursue as many as I want without breaking a sweat or giving a fuck about any bullshit they put up, or someone like you who can't look at one without feeling like a suicidal pos

>Why are there so many closeted homosexuals in cloisters?
Prove it.

>You're the one regurgitating; DON'T MARRY DON'T REPRODUCE CONSUME
I said the exact opposite of all of that. Why do you have to lie? The Jew is the one who lies.

>Are you going to pretend like white people aren't told about overpopulation and the "child free" lifestyle fucking daily?
Are you going to pretend like all men are not told, from the day of their birth, that their worth is determined by women? That the only purpose they could ever have is to provide for and please women? That any man who cannot attract women is inherently flawed and deserves only death? Look at this thread. Look at the men who will cast their own BROTHERS into the fires because WOMEN don't approve of these men. Who then is the weakling? Who is the Jew?

I suggest a different path.

It's the whole package, dude. You have nothing special to offer and you think you're entitled a woman who does.

That's the sort of delusional thinking I had associated with women and spergs in the past. Do you fit either of those categories?

I don't have any problem looking at women, dummy. I love looking at women. They are all unique and beautiful, like little flowers in the field. Once they open their mouths the beauty fades slightly, but whatever, that's not their fault, they've been brainwashed by the fucking System.

>More degeneracy
>More promiscuity
>Less children
>Less marriage
>Society is failing
The evidence proves you wrong. I don't care what some dumb girl who doesn't know shit thinks about this.

>You have never even come close to dealing with sexual pressure.
I didn't masturbate until I got married either. That's sexual pressure.
>The purpose of a man is to gain the approval of women?
You were born too late to explore the world, and too early to explore space. Any way you can help society progress at this point can be done with a family alongside you. That is what I am saying.
>Women do not give a man his value.
So you are a typical MGTOW.
>Neither do children.
They're not expected to. They are children. Maybe it's for the best you don't have a family. I try to give advice and you refute it because you're a defeatist.
>Who cares about them?
You don't need a shit movement to help other men. In fact, the movement just makes them accept being alone. You're hurting them more.

I really hope this loser's don't make it into the next generation. I dislike people like this immensely.

mgtow should be about improving urself, disregarding whores and marrying virgins.

>I didn't masturbate until I got married

Low T detected.

I literally said that I don't have anything to offer these women and so of course I don't expect them to want me, or even to be open to my overtures. I have accepted that I cannot attract them. If you would pay attention to what I am actually saying you would know this.

No woman owes me a damn thing. I am not entitled to anything. But if I can't attract the good woman then what? Is that where it ends? Is there no other place for me to go, other than: Not good enough for this one thing?

Or would you suggest I go and find women of bad morals and bad behavior? How would that help either me or them? What kind of stupidity is that? Of course good women are out of my league, I never said they weren't! I said they were! But then what? Should not a man have another purpose?

It was a struggle, but it's what I felt I had to do once I got engaged.

>going one's own way
>marrying

>Full celibacy.
Yes, mom.

>I'm not hot-shit. I'm kind of a loser.
See, you say that, and yet you give yourself a faggy label and make threads about how awesome your lifestyle choice is. Nobody fucking cares if you fuck women or men or anyone at all as long as you're not all up in our faces about it, but that's exactly what you're doing.

Are you still here?

>I didn't masturbate until I got married either. That's sexual pressure.
Good. Very good. I tip my hat to you and withdraw my statement.

>You were born too late to explore the world, and too early to explore space. Any way you can help society progress at this point can be done with a family alongside you. That is what I am saying.
What. About. The. Men. Who. Cannot. Do. That?

>So you are a typical MGTOW.
So do women give men their value?

>They're not expected to. They are children. Maybe it's for the best you don't have a family. I try to give advice and you refute it because you're a defeatist.
You tried to argue with a strawman that you created and then get angry and defeatist with me when I tell you I am not made of straw but flesh and blood.

>You don't need a shit movement to help other men. In fact, the movement just makes them accept being alone. You're hurting them more.
So what is your solution? Do you think none of them will have to be alone?

SOME OF THEM WILL BE ALONE! Is it better that they should think they have missed out on the ONLY thing that life is about, or is it better that they should learn to ACCEPT BEING ALONE?

THINK!!!

>You talk about things on the place where things are talked about!
>Nobody cares, yet we feel the need to keep arguing with you!
You're not making any sense.

>What about the men who can't do that?
They don't need a movement.
>So women give men their value?
A family gives men a reason to get up in the morning and make a better life for their family.
>You tried to argue with a strawman.
I didn't make a strawman.
>What is your solution?
I've told you. Let them figure it out for themselves. MGTOW makes them settle with being lonely instead of wanting better. No man is too hopeless to be alone. There are dating shows in the UK for men with low-functioning autism. If they can find a partner any man can. It's a matter of desire.
>Is it better that they should accept being alone?
Read above. You're a defeatist if you believe this stuff.

Do your own thing dude, dont worry about women if you dont need nor want to. I agree with you that seeking women is not a good enough purpose for anyone. And as we come closer and closer to various artificial reproductive methods, human enhancement through genetic modification and technological augmentation, and AI, humanity will become obsolete anyways, as will the need for traditionally attractive males or females. There is nothing wrong with any of this. We must not cling to humanity existing in an endlessly primitive state just for the sake of continuity.

>What. About. The. Men. Who. Cannot. Do. That?

They are irrelevant. Adapt or die.

>So do women give men their value?

No, not objectively. From the female perspective yes, but their perspective is irrelevant.

>So what is your solution? Do you think none of them will have to be alone?

About 40% of all men who have ever lived havent reproduced. Male loneliness is completely normal and natural. There is no problem that exists, people just think there is a problem because they dont understand reality. Incels have always existed in not insignificant quantities, they continue to exist today. It is normal.

>SOME OF THEM WILL BE ALONE! Is it better that they should think they have missed out on the ONLY thing that life is about, or is it better that they should learn to ACCEPT BEING ALONE? THINK!!!

Yes. They must accept it, otherwise they become unstable.

>There are dating shows in the UK for men with low-functioning autism.
I kind of want to know more, but at the same time, I kind of don't

mgtow is for worthless faggots, stick with it though, its better you don't pass on your faggot coward beta genes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undateables

They obviously need a movement. They are crying out for a movement and if good men don't give them one then the System will invent a subversive one (like classic MGTOW) and they will fall into that. Your idea that they will "figure it out" is stupid. Not all men are leaders. Some men are followers. They need to be a part of something.

>No man is too hopeless to be alone. There are dating shows in the UK for men with low-functioning autism. If they can find a partner any man can. It's a matter of desire.
That's just clearly not true. Unless you are suggesting that these men need to marry "reformed" turbo-sluts than you have to admit that some of them will be left out in the cold. And if you are suggesting they "man up" and marry the turbo-sluts than you are part of the problem.

Your taking your personal life and projecting it onto everyone. Well guess what, most of us didn't get married at 20. Most of us are well past 20 and not only are we weirdos, but the vast majority of girls around us are slutty and irresponsible and quite frankly are not suited for marriage. That's not me being entitled either. It wouldn't be good for them or for the man. Look at the divorce rates. Bad marriages are worse than no marriage at all.

You have a wonderful family. That is awesome. God bless you for it! That's not a future that lies in store for every man. Pretending like it actually is and these guys just aren't "trying hard enough" is a cheap-ass way of keeping your fellow brothers down so you can act like the "real man in the room".

I'm not concerned with impressing everyone with how manly and aloof I am. I don't need to shit on people because something completely out of their control, or point my finger at every little flaw they have and pretend like the world doesn't have SOME part to play in this.

Your acting like women don't have a choice. As if every man will instantly find legions of willing, good women. Not true.

>I'm a pathetic little follower that can regurgitate pathetic little insults like a good little boot-licker.
>Don't ask me to think for myself though, because I'm just a boot-licking dog that can't do anything but bark when I'm told.

>Artificial wombs
Science fiction is not an answer to real problems.

>Incels have always existed in not insignificant quantities, they continue to exist today. It is normal.
Okay, so play the "I'm aloof and don't give a shit" game. But then get the fuck out of here and be aloof. Don't try to convince us all your so aloof, just be aloof.