Yfw you realize internationalist, feminist, anti-racist communism is the final...

Oliver Martinez
Oliver Martinez

yfw you realize internationalist, feminist, anti-racist communism is the final REDpill.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_asymmetry
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism
youtube.com/watch?v=jk1kX-Tdi1Y

Josiah White
Josiah White

The final redpill is my throbbing red dick penetrating your piehole

Henry Fisher
Henry Fisher

fpbp

Lincoln Smith
Lincoln Smith

Sweden is the final redpill

David Lee
David Lee

Sweden are capitalist, imperialist shills.

Dominic Howard
Dominic Howard

You guys keep spamming this shit but it doesn't ever make it true.

Jackson Long
Jackson Long

Back to /leftypol/ you go

Isaiah Cruz
Isaiah Cruz

National Bolshevism is the final redpill

Ian Murphy
Ian Murphy

Classcuck comments
Check flag
USA
Of course.

National Bolshevism is just one step on the road to being a true enlightened class-conscious social justice warrior.

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

Get out of here (((CIA)))

Adrian Perez
Adrian Perez

mfw realising Karl Marx was a jobless faggot.

Brody Davis
Brody Davis

CIA
Advocating for communism
Do you not remember that the was invented specifically to stop communism?

It's where the Sup Forums helicopter meme came from.

To be NEET is to be elite.

Colton Hill
Colton Hill

jew

Brody Allen
Brody Allen

kek

uninstall your life OP

Noah Mitchell
Noah Mitchell

wat 4 fuck

get out

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

Denmark is just as bad policy-wise, only whiter

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

To be NEET is to be elite.
This is why communist societies collapse kike.

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

How can every nation be expected to live as one if they're so different?

Gavin Robinson
Gavin Robinson

Also the CIA hates black people.

Noah Walker
Noah Walker

Well no. The USSR isn't around any more because the party figured out they could make more money by selling the country to the highest bidder rather than actually trying to make life better for the Soviet peoples.

It didn't collapse, it was deliberately privatized.

Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

Good job on explaining the reasons why you believe this. You've given no supporting information, thus you have proven nothing.

Leave the shitposting to 'Straya, because you're not good at it.

William Garcia
William Garcia

He was a journalist.

Zachary Lopez
Zachary Lopez

It was privatised because economically it went shit. China privatised in the 1980s before soviet union and China's still around.

Dominic Foster
Dominic Foster

True because it eventually collapses on its own weight and dies which allows actual good ideas to rule.

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

Journalist
Job

William Sanders
William Sanders

Well for two reasons
1. They aren't that different at all. Human beings from any part of the planet have far more in common than they do in difference.
2. Internationalism doesn't necessitate living together in big 100% diverse communities. It necessitates having solidarity with each other. If we had one international workers state most people would probably continue to live where they always lived with the friends and families they always had.

Elijah Peterson
Elijah Peterson

It had some internal problems though.

Nathaniel Cox
Nathaniel Cox

yfw you realize that cancer, cancer, cancery cancer is the final CANcer.

sage

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

economically it went to shit
This is true, by the late 1980s the economy of the USSR was dogshit. But by no means dogshit enough to collapse a country, right this second there are shittier economies out there trundling along with no end in sight. By all statistics it seemed like had the party not decided they would rather be oligarchs than politicians the USSR could have survived and indeed people wanted it to.

Additionally China wasn't privatized like the USSR was. The USSR decided to just let capitalists fuck their shit up and privatize everything. The Chinese economy is still largely state-run and markets are only allowed insofar as the party allows them. It's also worth noting that the Chinese "communist" party never stopped crushing all descent whereas Gorbachev let any dissident say whatever they wanted.

Not defending Dengism by the way, just pointing out that Chinese restructuring was very different to how the Soviets did it.

Connor Martinez
Connor Martinez

t. fascist kulak

Ethan Brooks
Ethan Brooks

The USSR economy was always dog shit, in the 1970s the USA had a economy nearly triple the size of the Soviet Union. Soviet Union industries consumed double the amount of electricity than US ones but the US had double the size of outputs produced. Without the role of profit and loses in a Communist system, why increase efficiency in production?

China is a regulated market, better than no market, in the 1980s, they gave some of the means of production to private businesses and thats when it saw an average growth rate of 9 percent during the 1980s.

Even Vladimir Lenin realised communism did not work near the end of his life, he introduced an economic policy that would be a progression towards state capitalism, but was scrapped by Stalin when Lenin Died.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy

Ethan Cooper
Ethan Cooper

Wrong, the final redpill is death.

Hudson Gonzalez
Hudson Gonzalez

This

Easton Howard
Easton Howard

If we had one international workers state, then communists would be pilled in the ditches, since they are not workers.

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

A few things
1. The Soviet economy wasn't always dog shit, it expanded massively from virtually nothing following WW2 into being the second biggest economy on the planet.
2. The USSR did have a role of profit and loss. The USSR essentially functioned as a massive private organization with a monopoly on everything within their borders, the profits went to the state and the state participated in global markets.
3. Calling China "a regulated market" is a gross understatement. Germany is a regulated market. China is state capitalism.
4. The NEP did not exist because Lenin decided communism didn't work, and a planned economy isn't "communism" anyway. The NEP was because Russia was severely underdeveloped and barely emerged from feudalism, feudalism>capitalism>socialism>communism is material dialectics 101.

Sebastian Perry
Sebastian Perry

Workers are not workers because they subscribe to a certain school of thought.

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

mfw I realize gassing all the communist is the final FINAL redpill

Henry Parker
Henry Parker

Ancapism is only like stage 3 of the redpill.

Git gud.

Jordan Turner
Jordan Turner

implying implications

Luke Harris
Luke Harris

Step 1: Liberalism
Step 2: Libertarianism
Step 3: Ancapism
Step 4: Nationalist conservatism
Step 6: National Socialism
Step 7: Strasserism
Step 8: Internationalist socialism
Step 9: FULL COMMUNISM

Lucas Gonzalez
Lucas Gonzalez

lol ok kiddo

Justin Gomez
Justin Gomez

CIA shills get oot me thread.

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

1.The Soviet Union switched from a feudalist system to a modern socialist system, of course it would have a boom, but one limited by regulations and the system itself. The bigger your population the bigger your economy, if the economy isn't shit.
2.The profits going to the state is the reason why communist economy is shit. A state having a complete monopoly on everything meaning no one to compete so they don't need to improve their goods or services, do you really think government businesses are under threat from losses, no, they just bail them out, but in a capitalist system a private business that operated as a government one would go bankrupt because they are misallocating resources.
3.Germany growth is 1.7%, China over 6% thanks for proving my point senpai.
4.Lenin knew that capitalism has better economic growth than communism, the bigger the economy of a nation the more advanced the nation (expect india because they just have a lot of people).

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

feminist
Identity politics only divides the proletariat.

Hudson Campbell
Hudson Campbell

Communists are not workers because they do not work. Sitting in 200k college class with white professor and then pissing off to your suburban to have barbecue with the rest of your upper class pals is not work.
I know you are just emulating all the communists that came before you, but don't be surprised when the actual workers can't stand your guts.

Angel Rivera
Angel Rivera

cia
beep beep little redditor here come the real spicy memes

Carson Cox
Carson Cox

Is this a list sorted from the least shit to worst shit. That is quite self-reflecting coming from a communist. I applaud you, tell your butler to make you a smoothie, you deserve it.

Nicholas Hill
Nicholas Hill

anti-racist
Karl Marx
ok user

Hudson Evans
Hudson Evans

You can't be communistic without being racist or anti-feminist, that is the RED pill right there.

Aiden Hernandez
Aiden Hernandez

cuckunism is the ultimate blue pill, faggot

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

Pinochet was a CIA puppet that sold off his country to foreign investors.

Jonathan Walker
Jonathan Walker

Economy, productivity and efficiency are capitalist concepts.

Bureaucratic socialism like USSR is only concerned with management. It is not a real economy. In fact things like efficiency may be purposefully stunted for other ideological reasons.

Lenin's late movement towards petty capitalism was a placeholder necessity to compliment a relatively new and incompetent bureaucracy. It was not intended as a long term policy.

Josiah Morales
Josiah Morales

1. Naturally but that doesn't really relate to my argument.
2. Dude, do you know anything about communism or capitalism? I'm going to have to take a microscope to this one

2.1 You don't understand what a "communist economy" is. To begin, it's not soviet planned economies. Communism is stateless, classless and moneyless.

Soviet planned economies are a form of socialism. And not the only form.

2.2 Except here's the thing. The state DID have to compete as it was participating in the global economy. Economics are bigger than the state's borders and especially considering the USSR was in the middle of an economic (and another literal) arms race with the western world it was vital that they were able to improve their efficiency. Not that they managed to do it very well however.

2.3 Did you think about this point for more than 0.1 seconds? If the state IS the business then it can't bail the business out, the losses are directly state losses. If the business takes a hit the government has to eat the loss, this is a big part of why the planned economy system doesn't work. When a global recession happens capitalist economies are able to use state resources to bail out private interests as the two otherwise function (somewhat) separately. In a planned economy there is no such option. This is exactly what happened in the 1980s when the oil market crashed. The west was able to bail out private industry and make the people eat the loss with austerity. The Eastern bloc since the government was the oil company had to just try and sit tight which as we know didn't work out very well.

3. If that's what you meant why did you think China being better than Germany at economic growth was a point worth raising?

4. Did you even read what I said? Lenin instituted the NEP because material dialectics. Look that up and come back to me.

Depending on the quality of your net argument I may or may not reply.

Tyler Taylor
Tyler Taylor

Nick please stop.

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

I took one hit of this pure, uncut black tar ideology and died.

I agree, classcucks are bluepills.

Dominic Campbell
Dominic Campbell

That's very funny because I come from Ireland.

Connor Smith
Connor Smith

So you're a potato nigger

Luke Nelson
Luke Nelson

Yup.

And I've probably fucked more French girls than you have.

Dominic Scott
Dominic Scott

i'd rather deal with fascism than you limp wristed commie fags any day. good luck perpetuating your unsustainable way of life

Ayden Jenkins
Ayden Jenkins

don't be surprised when the actual workers can't stand your guts.
Well no shit. Academics and bourgeoisie are always first to the Gulag.

Characterising every Marxist like this is a cop out.

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

tfw OP ignores my post how Marx was racist because he doesn't have any argument

Jaxson Roberts
Jaxson Roberts

Never heard that, kek.

Chase Hernandez
Chase Hernandez

Marxist deny a lot about everything we've learned in the past 150 years.

Matthew Wright
Matthew Wright

Well Marx isn't god and contrary to what some Marxists believe we don't need to believe everything he says and interpret his works like religious texts.

As a matter of fact Marx himself shat on this mentality.

Michael Collins
Michael Collins

*revisionism intensifies*

Andrew Bell
Andrew Bell

The most important book about Marxism

Charles Hill
Charles Hill

Marxism
a word that was made from the name "Marx"
doesn't believe everything he said
posts a meme picture of him
?????????????

Gabriel Myers
Gabriel Myers

Communism is stateless.
Nigga, equality is forced by government, it's not a natural idea.

arms race with the western world it was vital that they were able to improve their efficiency.
Improve efficiency in weapons but not in goods and services for the public.

The State is the business then it can't bail itself out.
State vs private business, private creates more efficient product because they are more pressured by profits and losses, government loses a business open new one, CEO loses a business good luck getting back in the market. In 1991, India began freeing the market, at the time, the HMP watch brand by the government dominated. After free market, it now only has 13 percent of the watch market.

Simple, China has better economic growth than Germany because china is state capitalism like you said.

Ayden Kelly
Ayden Kelly

Cringe. I have a legit question to the Commieposters today, what exactly is the point of this?

I get that you like making people mad, and bravo to that,trolling is an art I respect, but I also know that /leftypol/ is enormously self important. All Leftists are. These pushes are concentrated, every week or so there's like fifteen "hurr ask me about gommunism" threads in one day.

What is the motive? Do you think making people feel deep, atavistic hatred for you as invaders is helping your case?

Don't say you're here to start dialogue, because that's false. In Spain's Marxist Leninist thread I have been asking a genuine question about dialectics for fucking weeks now and I have NEVER gotten an answer, just more shitposting.

I have to know: What is the aim? Is this just what you do on a Saturday night instead of hanging out with friends?

What's the deal? Why are you doing this? You aren't making headway, and it's not possible for Sup Forums to be MORE butthurt than it always is anyway, so what's the point? If it isn't niggerdick posting it's really makes you think posting, we're always mad about something, why do you want us to be mad at YOU specifically?

David Cruz
David Cruz

Could someone tell me why anarcho-communism is bad?

Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

tfw seeing das kaiptal #1 seller trending
tfw buying them in bulk and selling them at a loss to educate my fellow comrades

Jacob Harris
Jacob Harris

It's funny because that's not even satire. I was on a socialist forum the other day and there was a trending thread about the situation in Venezuela, and people were literally blaming the crisis on the country not being socialist enough,

I was speechless.

Ayden Morales
Ayden Morales

Also I don't support government bailouts to private business, let them die.

Carson Brooks
Carson Brooks

Its not communism if it isnt gay.

Brayden Jackson
Brayden Jackson

Because it doesn't work due to humans not being able to live in a perfect fairy land of equality without someone starting a business or a state.

What are humans?
Humans are Animals
What do animals do?
They compete. So, humans also naturally compete since we evolved from animals.
What happens when you introduce humans into an environment where competition is not allowed?
They compete with each other anyways because that is what humans do.

Marx didn't know all this because the Theory of Evolution wasn't widely accepted at that time (to his credit).

Anthony Evans
Anthony Evans

Did you say something about Gay Communist?

Asher Murphy
Asher Murphy

Kek
Typical though...

Nicholas Richardson
Nicholas Richardson

OK ignoramus.

There are several examples of competition in the USSR including worker productivity and designs for government contracts.

Remember when working took skill and workers took pride in their product?

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

This.

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

There are several examples of competition in the USSR including worker productivity
You mean gulags?

Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

anti-racist communism is the final REDpill.
are you retarded?
also who are you quoting?

Jaxon Moore
Jaxon Moore

You mean gulags?
No.

Leo Price
Leo Price

FPBP

Thomas White
Thomas White

Weird, because that's the only place where people in USSR competed in work.

Connor Price
Connor Price

yfw you realize the ULTIMATE ultimate Redpill is a future where energy and matter are interchangeable, all wars have ended, everyone pursues a life of education and exploration, and we explore space and everything is swell
Gee, this is easy.

Okay, now you guys do some.

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

believing in supply-demand meme
most of consumer commodities has literally infinite supply, especially digital commodities.

Classic "wild" capitalism as you imagine it already died many years ago. The only difference between capitalism and socialism now is who take the profit and control the means of production: 8 jews or all people

Really makes you think

Sebastian Flores
Sebastian Flores

Solzhenitsyn was a traitor and a liar, writing his books by CIA contracts.

Mason Brooks
Mason Brooks

So the ruling intelligenstia of the poliburea decided capitalism was the way to move forward?
Who knew?

Jayden Russell
Jayden Russell

Because there is no such thing as "anarchy" and communism is a false ideology. i.e., societies do not evolve into classless societies

Adrian White
Adrian White

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_asymmetry

Cooper Hall
Cooper Hall

All of the times, we live in permanent anarchy, but cheaty people are used flags and words to make you believe its democracy/republic/nation. While fooling others this real anarchists making a profit from less smart.
Thats it.

Blake Johnson
Blake Johnson

That's incorrect. See 'Stakhanovite movement.'

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

Yeah, but that took place during the war, so they probably did it for their homeland.
Outside of war nobody would ever want to compete.

Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

Can someone tell me how is "anarcho-communism" not redundant?

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

There's different kinds of anarchism, and not even all of them are leftist.

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

Again, incorrect. After WWII was the Space Race and Cold War. For example, Soviet Design Bureaus were some of the best in the world.

Matthew Myers
Matthew Myers

Space Race
Cold War
both were controlled by the government and society didn't gain anything for it

Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

You're 100% retarded, the space race was responsible for a huge technological boost, but you won't admit it because it was done by DA EBIL GUBNMENT.

Charles Morris
Charles Morris

moves goal posts

Nathaniel Robinson
Nathaniel Robinson

Hi there
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National-anarchism

Kayden Sullivan
Kayden Sullivan

Exactly.
First man in the space was Yuri Gagarin.

Jordan Bell
Jordan Bell

huge technological boost
society couldn't experience it
I didn't.
People worked with the same amount of productivity as before, they just did it for different reason.

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

Come on comrades! Let's show these edgelords how red it gets!

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

You initial argument was that there was no competition within the USSR and that is false. If competition did stop, when, and what are the indications this is true?

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

translation: I am Jahans

Easton Miller
Easton Miller

everyone got the same "rewards" no matter how much they worked
That's probably why

Carter Moore
Carter Moore

Well at least their doing something right

Lincoln Rogers
Lincoln Rogers

Space Race and Cold War
memes of US propaganda

Xavier Peterson
Xavier Peterson

feminism
not wanting to put benis in bagina
the final red pill
Wrong the final red pill is national spurdoism

Andrew Jenkins
Andrew Jenkins

Have you never taken pride in your work? Gotten satisfaction from a difficult task? Been happy after you learn a new skill?

Are you a robot? Ironic.

Ethan Gutierrez
Ethan Gutierrez

Good question always kept without answers.

Chase Roberts
Chase Roberts

Yes, yes, that's Sup Forums need

youtube.com/watch?v=jk1kX-Tdi1Y

Lucas Lopez
Lucas Lopez

memes of US propaganda
To an extent. However there were tangible results from the international tension. Call it whatever you will. Soviet Rocket technology was only surpassed as recently as 2011.

Bentley Young
Bentley Young

There is retarded people, who's not. Socialistic evolution will filter em out.

Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

Canada is the new land of the free. Donald will suck Justin massive cock live on CBC before the end of the decade.

Noah Roberts
Noah Roberts

The final redpill:

Lincoln Lewis
Lincoln Lewis

Why would I take pride in something I was forced to do?

Andrew Campbell
Andrew Campbell

reluctantly draws air
Then stop breathing you insufferable faggot.

Cooper Cooper
Cooper Cooper

uninstall your life OP
lol that would be a good meme.

Lincoln Ward
Lincoln Ward

You are weak and deserve it, if you forced to do something.
Socialism is about doing, what you wanted to do.

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

I don't take pride in breathing air.
Are you proud that you breathing?
And the only thing you want to do in socialism is working it seems.

Owen Parker
Owen Parker

Are you proud that you breathing?
I would say that I am thankful, not resentful because I am 'forced to'.

Robert Gutierrez
Robert Gutierrez

Oh wow, I sure am thankful that I am forced to work in a job

Luke Harris
Luke Harris

By robber baron jews

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore

Yes. Individual agency was a mistake.

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

The hundred of thousands of man who died pointelessly because under the soviet union would say otherwise

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

you're still hinged on the assumption that surplus theft has been proven to exist, it has not

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

You've no face when your slide thread is saged and hidden. Spotted the Brockpuppet.

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

Trillions Stalin killed himself, yep.

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

More over - you are talking about state burocracy capitalism, not socialism.

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