yfw you realize internationalist, feminist, anti-racist communism is the final REDpill.
Yfw you realize internationalist, feminist, anti-racist communism is the final...
The final redpill is my throbbing red dick penetrating your piehole
Sweden is the final redpill
Sweden are capitalist, imperialist shills.
You guys keep spamming this shit but it doesn't ever make it true.
Back to /leftypol/ you go
National Bolshevism is the final redpill
National Bolshevism is just one step on the road to being a true enlightened class-conscious social justice warrior.
Get out of here (((CIA)))
mfw realising Karl Marx was a jobless faggot.
Advocating for communism
Do you not remember that the was invented specifically to stop communism?
It's where the Sup Forums helicopter meme came from.
To be NEET is to be elite.
uninstall your life OP
wat 4 fuck
Denmark is just as bad policy-wise, only whiter
To be NEET is to be elite.
This is why communist societies collapse kike.
How can every nation be expected to live as one if they're so different?
Also the CIA hates black people.
Well no. The USSR isn't around any more because the party figured out they could make more money by selling the country to the highest bidder rather than actually trying to make life better for the Soviet peoples.
It didn't collapse, it was deliberately privatized.
Good job on explaining the reasons why you believe this. You've given no supporting information, thus you have proven nothing.
Leave the shitposting to 'Straya, because you're not good at it.
He was a journalist.
It was privatised because economically it went shit. China privatised in the 1980s before soviet union and China's still around.
True because it eventually collapses on its own weight and dies which allows actual good ideas to rule.
Well for two reasons
1. They aren't that different at all. Human beings from any part of the planet have far more in common than they do in difference.
2. Internationalism doesn't necessitate living together in big 100% diverse communities. It necessitates having solidarity with each other. If we had one international workers state most people would probably continue to live where they always lived with the friends and families they always had.
It had some internal problems though.
yfw you realize that cancer, cancer, cancery cancer is the final CANcer.
economically it went to shit
This is true, by the late 1980s the economy of the USSR was dogshit. But by no means dogshit enough to collapse a country, right this second there are shittier economies out there trundling along with no end in sight. By all statistics it seemed like had the party not decided they would rather be oligarchs than politicians the USSR could have survived and indeed people wanted it to.
Additionally China wasn't privatized like the USSR was. The USSR decided to just let capitalists fuck their shit up and privatize everything. The Chinese economy is still largely state-run and markets are only allowed insofar as the party allows them. It's also worth noting that the Chinese "communist" party never stopped crushing all descent whereas Gorbachev let any dissident say whatever they wanted.
Not defending Dengism by the way, just pointing out that Chinese restructuring was very different to how the Soviets did it.
t. fascist kulak
The USSR economy was always dog shit, in the 1970s the USA had a economy nearly triple the size of the Soviet Union. Soviet Union industries consumed double the amount of electricity than US ones but the US had double the size of outputs produced. Without the role of profit and loses in a Communist system, why increase efficiency in production?
China is a regulated market, better than no market, in the 1980s, they gave some of the means of production to private businesses and thats when it saw an average growth rate of 9 percent during the 1980s.
Even Vladimir Lenin realised communism did not work near the end of his life, he introduced an economic policy that would be a progression towards state capitalism, but was scrapped by Stalin when Lenin Died.
Wrong, the final redpill is death.
If we had one international workers state, then communists would be pilled in the ditches, since they are not workers.
A few things
1. The Soviet economy wasn't always dog shit, it expanded massively from virtually nothing following WW2 into being the second biggest economy on the planet.
2. The USSR did have a role of profit and loss. The USSR essentially functioned as a massive private organization with a monopoly on everything within their borders, the profits went to the state and the state participated in global markets.
3. Calling China "a regulated market" is a gross understatement. Germany is a regulated market. China is state capitalism.
4. The NEP did not exist because Lenin decided communism didn't work, and a planned economy isn't "communism" anyway. The NEP was because Russia was severely underdeveloped and barely emerged from feudalism, feudalism>capitalism>socialism>communism is material dialectics 101.
Workers are not workers because they subscribe to a certain school of thought.
mfw I realize gassing all the communist is the final FINAL redpill
Ancapism is only like stage 3 of the redpill.
Step 1: Liberalism
Step 2: Libertarianism
Step 3: Ancapism
Step 4: Nationalist conservatism
Step 6: National Socialism
Step 7: Strasserism
Step 8: Internationalist socialism
Step 9: FULL COMMUNISM
lol ok kiddo
CIA shills get oot me thread.
1.The Soviet Union switched from a feudalist system to a modern socialist system, of course it would have a boom, but one limited by regulations and the system itself. The bigger your population the bigger your economy, if the economy isn't shit.
2.The profits going to the state is the reason why communist economy is shit. A state having a complete monopoly on everything meaning no one to compete so they don't need to improve their goods or services, do you really think government businesses are under threat from losses, no, they just bail them out, but in a capitalist system a private business that operated as a government one would go bankrupt because they are misallocating resources.
3.Germany growth is 1.7%, China over 6% thanks for proving my point senpai.
4.Lenin knew that capitalism has better economic growth than communism, the bigger the economy of a nation the more advanced the nation (expect india because they just have a lot of people).
Identity politics only divides the proletariat.
Communists are not workers because they do not work. Sitting in 200k college class with white professor and then pissing off to your suburban to have barbecue with the rest of your upper class pals is not work.
I know you are just emulating all the communists that came before you, but don't be surprised when the actual workers can't stand your guts.
beep beep little redditor here come the real spicy memes
Is this a list sorted from the least shit to worst shit. That is quite self-reflecting coming from a communist. I applaud you, tell your butler to make you a smoothie, you deserve it.
You can't be communistic without being racist or anti-feminist, that is the RED pill right there.
cuckunism is the ultimate blue pill, faggot
Pinochet was a CIA puppet that sold off his country to foreign investors.
Economy, productivity and efficiency are capitalist concepts.
Bureaucratic socialism like USSR is only concerned with management. It is not a real economy. In fact things like efficiency may be purposefully stunted for other ideological reasons.
Lenin's late movement towards petty capitalism was a placeholder necessity to compliment a relatively new and incompetent bureaucracy. It was not intended as a long term policy.
1. Naturally but that doesn't really relate to my argument.
2. Dude, do you know anything about communism or capitalism? I'm going to have to take a microscope to this one
2.1 You don't understand what a "communist economy" is. To begin, it's not soviet planned economies. Communism is stateless, classless and moneyless.
Soviet planned economies are a form of socialism. And not the only form.
2.2 Except here's the thing. The state DID have to compete as it was participating in the global economy. Economics are bigger than the state's borders and especially considering the USSR was in the middle of an economic (and another literal) arms race with the western world it was vital that they were able to improve their efficiency. Not that they managed to do it very well however.
2.3 Did you think about this point for more than 0.1 seconds? If the state IS the business then it can't bail the business out, the losses are directly state losses. If the business takes a hit the government has to eat the loss, this is a big part of why the planned economy system doesn't work. When a global recession happens capitalist economies are able to use state resources to bail out private interests as the two otherwise function (somewhat) separately. In a planned economy there is no such option. This is exactly what happened in the 1980s when the oil market crashed. The west was able to bail out private industry and make the people eat the loss with austerity. The Eastern bloc since the government was the oil company had to just try and sit tight which as we know didn't work out very well.
3. If that's what you meant why did you think China being better than Germany at economic growth was a point worth raising?
4. Did you even read what I said? Lenin instituted the NEP because material dialectics. Look that up and come back to me.
Depending on the quality of your net argument I may or may not reply.
Nick please stop.
I took one hit of this pure, uncut black tar ideology and died.
I agree, classcucks are bluepills.
That's very funny because I come from Ireland.
So you're a potato nigger
And I've probably fucked more French girls than you have.
i'd rather deal with fascism than you limp wristed commie fags any day. good luck perpetuating your unsustainable way of life
don't be surprised when the actual workers can't stand your guts.
Well no shit. Academics and bourgeoisie are always first to the Gulag.
Characterising every Marxist like this is a cop out.
tfw OP ignores my post how Marx was racist because he doesn't have any argument
Never heard that, kek.
Marxist deny a lot about everything we've learned in the past 150 years.
Well Marx isn't god and contrary to what some Marxists believe we don't need to believe everything he says and interpret his works like religious texts.
As a matter of fact Marx himself shat on this mentality.
The most important book about Marxism
a word that was made from the name "Marx"
doesn't believe everything he said
posts a meme picture of him
Communism is stateless.
Nigga, equality is forced by government, it's not a natural idea.
arms race with the western world it was vital that they were able to improve their efficiency.
Improve efficiency in weapons but not in goods and services for the public.
The State is the business then it can't bail itself out.
State vs private business, private creates more efficient product because they are more pressured by profits and losses, government loses a business open new one, CEO loses a business good luck getting back in the market. In 1991, India began freeing the market, at the time, the HMP watch brand by the government dominated. After free market, it now only has 13 percent of the watch market.
Simple, China has better economic growth than Germany because china is state capitalism like you said.
Cringe. I have a legit question to the Commieposters today, what exactly is the point of this?
I get that you like making people mad, and bravo to that,trolling is an art I respect, but I also know that /leftypol/ is enormously self important. All Leftists are. These pushes are concentrated, every week or so there's like fifteen "hurr ask me about gommunism" threads in one day.
What is the motive? Do you think making people feel deep, atavistic hatred for you as invaders is helping your case?
Don't say you're here to start dialogue, because that's false. In Spain's Marxist Leninist thread I have been asking a genuine question about dialectics for fucking weeks now and I have NEVER gotten an answer, just more shitposting.
I have to know: What is the aim? Is this just what you do on a Saturday night instead of hanging out with friends?
What's the deal? Why are you doing this? You aren't making headway, and it's not possible for Sup Forums to be MORE butthurt than it always is anyway, so what's the point? If it isn't niggerdick posting it's really makes you think posting, we're always mad about something, why do you want us to be mad at YOU specifically?
Could someone tell me why anarcho-communism is bad?
tfw seeing das kaiptal #1 seller trending
tfw buying them in bulk and selling them at a loss to educate my fellow comrades
It's funny because that's not even satire. I was on a socialist forum the other day and there was a trending thread about the situation in Venezuela, and people were literally blaming the crisis on the country not being socialist enough,
I was speechless.
Also I don't support government bailouts to private business, let them die.
Its not communism if it isnt gay.
Because it doesn't work due to humans not being able to live in a perfect fairy land of equality without someone starting a business or a state.
What are humans?
Humans are Animals
What do animals do?
They compete. So, humans also naturally compete since we evolved from animals.
What happens when you introduce humans into an environment where competition is not allowed?
They compete with each other anyways because that is what humans do.
Marx didn't know all this because the Theory of Evolution wasn't widely accepted at that time (to his credit).
Did you say something about Gay Communist?
There are several examples of competition in the USSR including worker productivity and designs for government contracts.
Remember when working took skill and workers took pride in their product?
There are several examples of competition in the USSR including worker productivity
You mean gulags?
anti-racist communism is the final REDpill.
are you retarded?
also who are you quoting?
You mean gulags?
Weird, because that's the only place where people in USSR competed in work.
yfw you realize the ULTIMATE ultimate Redpill is a future where energy and matter are interchangeable, all wars have ended, everyone pursues a life of education and exploration, and we explore space and everything is swell
Gee, this is easy.
Okay, now you guys do some.
believing in supply-demand meme
most of consumer commodities has literally infinite supply, especially digital commodities.
Classic "wild" capitalism as you imagine it already died many years ago. The only difference between capitalism and socialism now is who take the profit and control the means of production: 8 jews or all people
Really makes you think
Solzhenitsyn was a traitor and a liar, writing his books by CIA contracts.
So the ruling intelligenstia of the poliburea decided capitalism was the way to move forward?
Because there is no such thing as "anarchy" and communism is a false ideology. i.e., societies do not evolve into classless societies
All of the times, we live in permanent anarchy, but cheaty people are used flags and words to make you believe its democracy/republic/nation. While fooling others this real anarchists making a profit from less smart.
That's incorrect. See 'Stakhanovite movement.'
Yeah, but that took place during the war, so they probably did it for their homeland.
Outside of war nobody would ever want to compete.
Can someone tell me how is "anarcho-communism" not redundant?
There's different kinds of anarchism, and not even all of them are leftist.
Again, incorrect. After WWII was the Space Race and Cold War. For example, Soviet Design Bureaus were some of the best in the world.
both were controlled by the government and society didn't gain anything for it
You're 100% retarded, the space race was responsible for a huge technological boost, but you won't admit it because it was done by DA EBIL GUBNMENT.
moves goal posts
First man in the space was Yuri Gagarin.
huge technological boost
society couldn't experience it
People worked with the same amount of productivity as before, they just did it for different reason.
Come on comrades! Let's show these edgelords how red it gets!
You initial argument was that there was no competition within the USSR and that is false. If competition did stop, when, and what are the indications this is true?
translation: I am Jahans
everyone got the same "rewards" no matter how much they worked
That's probably why
Well at least their doing something right
Space Race and Cold War
memes of US propaganda
not wanting to put benis in bagina
the final red pill
Wrong the final red pill is national spurdoism
Have you never taken pride in your work? Gotten satisfaction from a difficult task? Been happy after you learn a new skill?
Are you a robot? Ironic.
Good question always kept without answers.
Yes, yes, that's Sup Forums need
memes of US propaganda
To an extent. However there were tangible results from the international tension. Call it whatever you will. Soviet Rocket technology was only surpassed as recently as 2011.
There is retarded people, who's not. Socialistic evolution will filter em out.
Canada is the new land of the free. Donald will suck Justin massive cock live on CBC before the end of the decade.
The final redpill:
Why would I take pride in something I was forced to do?
reluctantly draws air
Then stop breathing you insufferable faggot.
uninstall your life OP
lol that would be a good meme.
You are weak and deserve it, if you forced to do something.
Socialism is about doing, what you wanted to do.
I don't take pride in breathing air.
Are you proud that you breathing?
And the only thing you want to do in socialism is working it seems.
Are you proud that you breathing?
I would say that I am thankful, not resentful because I am 'forced to'.
Oh wow, I sure am thankful that I am forced to work in a job
By robber baron jews
Yes. Individual agency was a mistake.
The hundred of thousands of man who died pointelessly because under the soviet union would say otherwise
you're still hinged on the assumption that surplus theft has been proven to exist, it has not
You've no face when your slide thread is saged and hidden. Spotted the Brockpuppet.
Trillions Stalin killed himself, yep.
More over - you are talking about state burocracy capitalism, not socialism.