South China Sea Conflict - Trump surrendered to China

nytimes.com/2017/05/02/world/asia/navy-south-china-sea.html?smid=tw-share

>WASHINGTON — Six weeks ago, the United States Pacific Command requested permission from senior American officials for a United States warship to sail within 12 nautical miles of Scarborough Shoal, a disputed reef in the South China Sea that is claimed by the Philippines and China.

>The Navy had good reason to think the request would be granted. During last year’s campaign, Donald J. Trump labeled President Barack Obama as weak in defending international waters in the South China Sea, where Beijing has started a sharp military buildup to reclaim land, install runways and haul equipment onto reefs and shoals it claims as its own. Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson, during his confirmation hearing in January, called for China to be denied access to the artificial islands. And foreign policy experts and Asia watchers braced for a return to routine Navy patrols within China’s self-proclaimed territorial waters, something Mr. Obama allowed sparingly.

>But instead, the Pacific Command request — and two others by the Navy in February — was turned down by top Pentagon officials before it even made it to President Trump’s desk. More than 100 days into the Trump presidency, no American Navy ship has gone within 12 miles of any of the disputed islands in the South China Sea, Defense Department officials said.

>The decision not to challenge China’s territorial claims represents a remarkable deference toward Beijing from an administration that is increasingly turning toward President Xi Jinping for help amid the escalating crisis in the Korean Peninsula.

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>was turned down by top Pentagon officials before it even made it to President Trump’s desk.
>Trump surrendered

???

>has the biggest Navy in the world
>doesn't dare to sail it
America yes

this is just a delay
lots of posturing and chicken
it will come to a head at some point

I know right?

The US is a laughing stock now.

No wonder the ASEAN has switched sides to China now.

reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-asia-analysis-idUSKBN17X1NE

>Asian nations pulled into China's orbit as Trump puts America first

CHINA CANT JUST KEEP WINNING.

US is done policing the world. Good luck faggots. Trump is done being the worlds bitch. We will drop some MOABS and be done with it.

Let China have all of Asia.

I could give two fucks about any of those gooks.
Fuck gooks.
Fuck Korea.
Fuck Japan.
Fuck Vietnam.
Fuck China.
Fuck Taiwan.
Rot is a barrel of fish heads you dog eating slant zipperhead chink dink Nathanial victor charlie tree line agent orange fat man little boy Hiroshima Nagasaki rape of nanking comfort women mother fuckers.

SIE A FUCKING NORA! Good luck gooks!

Sounds like a liberal journalist making shit up.

>Countries don't give China the finger
>OMG they got anexed by China

That fucking pic. Is there a way to spot shitty people in Chinese society? In the US, there's damn near a uniform, but what about in Beijing?

America has its own shit to take care of, China, and Russia are not a threat to America; again, its time for America to take care of its own bullshit, we've been putting it off for literally fucking decades.

Did Trump anything in his first 100 days outside of pissing off world leaders?

No president has done anything withing the first 100 days, you fucking shill.

Off the top of my head, FDR started his New Deal and Kennedy initiated the Bay of Pigs.

Oh look, presidents in the time of war, and fiscal bullshit, that basicly HAD to do something within the first 100 days, what a huge surprise, not like that was expected at all, right? Woah!

Fuck off.

Yeah, ask if they are Chinese. If the answer is "Yes", you have found a shitty person 99.99% of the time.

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>Mentioning Obama in any good way

We get it, you wish Bernie was president!

Anyone from the mainland sucks. Every one in twelve people is a member of the Communist party, and the population as a whole is ignorant, greedy, vain, and amoral to an extent that they make even the worst states in the US (West Virginia, New Mexico, etc) look like a gathering of philosophers by comparison.

By contrast, Hong Kong is alright. Its citizens have an extremely commercial mindset, but the ones I have met at least have some class.

Taiwan is pretty great. Anyone who has the chance to spend time mingling with the locals in both Beijing and Taipei will immediately know what I'm talking talking about. For whatever reason--presumably because Mao Zedong wasn't able to ruin it--Taiwanese society has retained some of the good qualities of traditional China and the Chinese national character of old. It's easily the best out of the countries with a Chinese majority.

As far as Chinese in the western hemisphere go, there's also an easy way to tell if they suck. Find out the reason they emigrated and what their class background is. Anyone who emigrated for economic reasons rather than political ones sucks. Anyone whose class background is worker/soldier/peasant/revolutionary sucks. Incidentally, most of the Chinese colonizing Canada are these sorts of people.

You move them goal posts faster than most, user. Nobody going to hold you down.

Reagan got his tax cuts through congress within his first 100 days, by the way, outside of war or a depression.

>posting new york times clickbait headlines with no further input

eat my ass

Thats Regan though, can't beat Regan...

>Fuck Korea.
>Fuck Japan.
but theyre like, our 2 biggest allies

I like how clappers seem to think you're doing the world some kind of favor and are some kind of "world police".

The reason the US is so heavily invested in force projection and stationed around the planet is so that conflicts are fought on other people's soil. Its purely born out of self-interest to keep mainland US out of any kind of fighting.

You may not realize this, but turtle the fuck up and all those dozens and dozens of countries that hate the fuck out of you are going to be able to get closer, and countries like China that were hampered by your presence will grow to rival you. Will it fuck countries like Japan? Sure! It'll also fuck you.

youtube.com/watch?v=SMz0iseKLeA

Yeah, he caved because he thinks they'll help him sort out NK.

Spoiler alert: They won't and they can't

And coincidentally, the most ruthless win.

Compare China's power with Taiwan's.

Hell, compare the US, the most uncultured shit country with the most ruthless foreign imperialist policy with nice guy Canada's national power.

China is destined to rule. It's people have the right mindset for it. And all who think this is wrong because Dey Bad'n'shit, deserve to be raped by Mainlanders.

China is pretty much master deal maker.
Didn't compromise, just wait and sit out the US and Japan finishing their fit of rage. Afterwards, both of them realize that China can't be stopped. Then, proceed in collecting all of ASEAN.

Everything just falls into place.

Chinese damage control detected. The people are shitty

HAHAHAHAHA "china will rule"

>Hell, compare the US, the most uncultured shit country

user you clearly never left Kansas. American music, rock, style, TV shows, Movies, and Food are everywhere in the world. People can name American actors, products, all of the above easily. People care more about our elections than their own. The US without doubt has the dominant culture on this planet.

China isn't destine to rule the world because China only sees relationships which aren't boiled down to them the mighty enlightened and the you being the small and insignificant. When a state takes an action they don't want, such as deploying THAAD, they boycott, they hurt trade, they throw a temper tantrum. Who wants to be friends with that? You can do business with them, but make no mistake they aren't you're friends. They only see a vassal and lord relationship.

American labs are filled with the best and brightest from around the world. Among some of our greatest achievements were pioneer by foreigners who became Americans and were proud to be Americans. The same is not happening in China. You will never be Chinese. China is an ethno state which consciously and actively supports it's Han ethnicity above all others within China. It's culture is determined by party members who fear Anime, Kpop, and other outside influences on their people. To tie it all together China's one child policy has helped create on of the largest demographic bubbles which will make Baby boomers seem like literally nothing. Which is why their entire society is pushing men to be able to support not just a wife but four parents.

I applaud the effort but this is a bait thread.

[whisper] hey guys, I think there might be some guano on those shoals! [/whisper]

taiwan and hong kong never had "cultural revolution" where they burn books for 10 years.

It really destroyed manners and decorum

>The same is not happening in China.

Kek.

China is more advanced in quantum tech because the world leading scientist in that field , Prof. Pan Jianwei, came back to China from Austria, a western democracy.

China is strong, because every Chinese can identify with the country's rise , as well as it's suffering. The past hundred years of being subject to Western/White humiliation was felt by every single Chinese person. Only absolute traitors and self-hating, self denying bananas will not heed the motherland's call.
Everyone else remembers the hate, having slept on brushwood and licked gall, as the whites excluded us, casually threw racial insults at us, and did everything to undermine us while we only worked and overachieved in everything. The rise of China is our revenge against the white man's world. For this reason alone we will return to support our country against yours. No one but the PRC is capable of that, because you have already turned all other non-whites into stakeholders of your unjust powerstructure.

t.proud mainland chinese studying nuclear physics in a western University.

>by top Pentagon officials before it even made it to President Trump’s

> Trump surrendered to China

Sniff, sniff

You smell like a shill, you talk like one, you act like one.

Could it be that you are a shill?

And they are slaves to the West, licking their balls and actively supporting the rule of the white man, while selling out their women as your fucktoys.

Fuck your manners. I would rather crush the white man in a savage, babarian way then to bow my head in front of you and acknowledge your domination. Go search for cultural Disneylands somewhere else.
In China, we will fucking flay you alive.

China's science output is increasing at a fast pace and will exceed the one of the USA in the near future.

Half of the American population celebrates anti-intellectualism with the fake news bullshit and aren't even capable of getting basic facts about climate change of vaccine right. They also voted a fucking reality tv star.

Reuters is a shill.

F-five D Chess!!11

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Right in their fucking front page

Hey isn't China the country where the military is prioritized at keeping people compliant? Hopefully that doesn't throw a wrench into your plans, bro?

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

i'm sorry to tell you but your country isn't interested in any sort of vengeance against the "white man", they care about business and making money and will gladly sell out long term allies like the nork's just to keep the US and the rest of world happy.

If you did start a war well then you'd be up against NATO and against NATO you'd just plain lose. Keeping in mind that NATO is responsible for 70 percent of total military spending worldwide

Them chinks better lern its called the America Sea not the Chinese sea.

fuckign chinks think they own the water? fuck them

The US NAVY - GLOBAL FORCE FOR GOOD (it means they are good, and "for good" also means FOREVER, bitch)

NATO wouldn't intervene as it's charter doesn't cover the Pacific

The Philippines renounced America and decided to become Chinese,Taiwan are a bunch of commie faggots, korea can just fucking go to hell with their bullshit national pride by not paying for shit, and Japanese needs to invest in a military.

Honestly, it really should not be an American issue because China is a stronger ally than all it's surrounding countries.

>NATO

NATO is utter shit. They cant even defeat refugees.

Kill the US, and the entire house of cards that the white man has built will crumble. They would compete with each other to suck off China's cock.

Why is the PLAN so perfect.

>The Philippines

Just Duterte and that's because he is on Beijing's payroll.

Beyond him, his cronies and shills the rest of the country is still heavily pro-USA. Even his shills are secretly reaping the benefits from a West/USA alliance but are just too blind and loyal to the resident third world strongman.

Kind of like Kimmy John, claims that he hates Amerikka but is probably consuming American media, food, drink and drives ebil Amerikkan cars.

that shit official?

who is this semen demon.

TrumpTards BTFO

>FDR made a massive effort to revitalize the american economy at its lowest point in history
Thats literally why the first 100 days came to be used as a measuring point. Trump hasnt matched this and neither has any other president since FDR
>Bay of Pigs
Suggesting that this terribly planned slaughter was a "good" thing shows that you need to do some more reading

>what is article 5
>refugees=attack by an outside country

"hous of cards"
dont throw rocks if you live in a glass house.

There are really people on /k/ who defend Trump.

He didn't do things the way people envisioned, but he did do things.

> Suggesting that this terribly planned slaughter was a "good" thing

Your words, not mine. OP simply wanted presidents who did something notable in the first 100 days.

> Stop China currency manipulation
> Got a better deal

Well that part is full of shit. Outside of daily noise, shit hasn't budged since Jan 14th.

The PLAN is actually full of cute girls.

What we you expecting when the Trump administration ended the "Pivot to the Pacific"? That it would help foreign relations there?

>Trump pussing out on his tough China talk is somehow news to people

In two years /k/ will be overtly pro-Chinese.

>NATO is utter shit. They cant even defeat refugees.
That isn't NATO's job. That the job of the EU an the nations in the Med area. Does NATO help yes, but ultimately they take a more support role for the refugee crisis.
>korea can just fucking go to hell with their bullshit national pride by not paying for shit
? they have a super stacked military
>Japanese needs to invest in a military
As does Japan

Like the time he wanted a ban on people coming from certain countries and it being slapped down, so he revised it, saying "it'll work this time" then got promptly shut down again.

Chinese people, particularly from the mainland, are almost universal assholes.

>America must look to it's own interests.
>Missile attack Syria and saber rattle at NK

Daily reminder that if Hillary had won, every single one of us would be busy preparing a "tragic boating accident" for our ARs and AKs before we got Assault Weapon Ban 2.0: Now With Australian-Style Confiscation

>The people ITT obsessed with America

jesus christ. Why are they all so desperate to compete with the US?

Hillary being worse doesn't make Trump any less shit, to be fair.

>the President can now pass laws

inb4 executive order
inb4 can't inb4

>cretins like this said the same thing for 8 years of Obama and fuck-all happened

>Hillary being worse doesn't make Trump any less shit, to be fair.
Yes it does.
>>cretins like this said the same thing for 8 years of Obama and fuck-all happened
Because the NRA and the Republican congress shut him down. You know, while we were off clinging to our guns and religion (or did you think we forgot about that?)

>Because the NRA and the Republican congress shut him down

And this wouldn't happen with Hillary?

>You know, while we were off clinging to our guns and religion (or did you think we forgot about that?)

>implying he was wrong

>bitches about the western world order
>licks the boot of the PRC, a government that chooses who gets to run in elections, will run over students with tanks, and has a domestic bodycount somewhere in the 8 figure range

There's nothing wrong with nationalism man, and I know that you're supporting your homeland just like I support mine, but don't pretend that things are all sunshine an unicorns back home. The economic miracle of finally realizing the potential of over a billion people will run out eventually, and when that happens people will start running out of tolerance for domestic problems. Hopefully your people will break from tradition and not start yet another civil war that kills tens of millions of people.

The Chinese government does. They resent the West for old shit like the Opium Was. And that attitude is indoctrinated (or at least attempted) on the people.

>proud Chinese
>studying in a Western university

China was in such dire straits because the West raped Chian too much. Desperate times called for desperate, radical measures. If China was left alone without any opium war, there was no need for radical intellectuals and revolutionaries to rise up and completely wreck the old imperial regime. Instead, gradual reforms could have been implemented with a lot fewer deaths.

None of us are blaming the Communist. We are blaming the Whites who raped us so much until the country was in ruins, which enabled the communists to take power, because honestly they were the only ones who could throw you white asses out of our country after 150 years of colonization and exploitation.

It was worth the price, for we are now a truly free nation, one that doesnt need to listen to any US embassy agent implanted into our goverment, or host any US base, or sign any Plaza Accord against our will.

I value national sovereignity as more important than political freedoms. Not having to pay taxes to a colonial power and have it control your government should be something the US can relate to. But no, this right only applies to the whites, and everyone else is destined to be their slaves.

>XOs do anything

sure buddy

The past 100 years were Chinese killing eachother and runing their country with a quick interlude by the japs.

>but theyre like, our 2 biggest allies

Now list what they DO for us. We'll wait.

>Come on /k/
>Constantly extoll the virtues of a cutthroat authoritarian country
>Constantly extoll the military might and hardware of a country where there is no fucking right to arms
Why the fuck do you even post on /k/? Why do any of you goddamn fiddy-centers keep coming here and try to make China look preferable to what we have when China has no 2A equivalent? Everyone goddamn week there's China Stronk threads all over /k/, do you guys just get your kicks posting shit on an American board?

Have fun in a nogunz authoritarian shithole. Also your shit sounds like it came straight out of the Mao era. The political climate in the PRC does not reflect that time period anymore.

>Philippines renounced America
You ever been to Flipland? Even if the leadership decides to kowtow to Beijing, most of Filipino culture and a lot of its history has a massive US influence. Other than knockoff Chink stuff I saw on the street most people and family I spoke to would much rather move to the US than the PRC if given the choice.

Obama actively tried to pass anti-gun legislation, and it was only by the skin of our teeth that we shot that shit down. You forget Sandy Vagina and the aftermath from that?

You don't sound like any of the Chinese I met while studying at my Uni. Also for being rather anti-white, why the fuck are you studying in a western Uni?
>Throw your asses out
They were rather quick to open right the fuck back up when Nixon and company opened things up again. You sound like a modern CCP propaganda mouthpiece.

>None of us are blaming the Communist.

Half of China does, because the Communist party is massively corrupt and not capable of managing a liberal economy that doesn't respond to command-style quotas. China has successfully produced more steel, more solar panels and more trains than any other nation on earth yet all it has done is get them slapped with antidumping tariffs making them unable for export (and thus causing an oversupply situation, leading to a price collapse).

Half of the county knows this and would like it to stop. Otherwise, Chinese professionals wouldn't be leaving the country in droves for places where such corruption isn't tolerated.

oh boy I sure enjoy reading about weapons in this thread
83 / 9 / 49 / 2
Why do we always have some bullshit thread shilling for china stronk and why don they stay in the catalog for this fucking long, a handful of shitposters leave a bait reply and all of you idiots come out and spray them with the (you) bukkake they craved, what's the next step of your master plan?

China is just paper tiger.
LARSM alone can fuck whole hinese navy.

Check if they appear to have squinty eyes.

>Crush the White man

Lol, where have you been for the last 300 years of human history? Its not gonna happen mate.

Yet again, Trump gets on his knees before an authoritarian regime. He's not a man, he's pathetic. He's all piss and vinegar when dealing with western democracies, but when it comes to dictators and authoritarian regimes... man, the guy has severe daddy issues. He has to be a closet fag or something, with those blond wives being beards to cover up his limp dick. He couldn't even follow through on his immigrant bans, the 9th circuit said no, the supreme court's there just waiting to strike them down, and he's already given up. It's pathetic.

Trump is a little bitch.

wtf I love the Chinese navy now

this desu. Of all countries in the world they seem to have a chip on their shoulder towards us.

This so fucking hard so hard God DAMMIT I love you for posting this.

Our debt is out of control from the cia false flag wars in the middleast our border is unsecured and we have tons of undecuated morons running around with no skills in this country. We should be solving these problems not fucking policing the gooks whilst trying to police the Arabs too. Destroy isis maybe the norks with missiles only no ground troops and that's it. We are done.

Rest of the world and especially you insufferable euro fags;

You bitched at us for years about being world police now you will get your wish. You bankrupted us and ruined our country. You can all burn in nuclear fire for all I care ya got that fuckers?
Fuck off. USA will take care of its own people from now on left or right doesn't matter interventionism is dead.

Deal. With. It.

>people who reads the clickbait title and jumps to conclusions despite said clickbait being debunked in the first reply
>people who are angry and retarded writing bullshit biased essays about how everything should be
>people who shitpost in the most obvious ways aren't treated as shitposters or don't see themselves as shitposters
I don't know what I expected, go on /k/, click on some random thread that has nothing to do with weapons, see unwelcomed autistic screeching all over the place and leave slightly upset.
>inb4 go back to /safe place/ so shitposters can shitpost in their /safe place/

> I would rather crush the white man in a savage, barbarian way then to bow my head in front of you and acknowledge your domination.

I feel like there's a rather large tract of middle ground in between those two options you've presented.

People also aren't wrong when they say that the J-20 is a sexy aircraft.

Remember warhawk Hillary, lel...

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>Never left Kansas.
Post discarded.

>Battlefield 2042, EU vs PAC.

Non-media-bullshit take on the situation:

>Trump gets China on side on a much bigger issue
>Pentagon stops the now-irrelevant request from getting to Trump's desk
>SCS on hold while Trump and China deal with NK's bullshit.