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Agreed

(As long as they're white)

Niggers should be treated by witch doctors and not by white man medicine

It's called not an argument

>uses term free healthcare
>immediately ackowledges it isn't actually free
please just use the right terminology

But... That poor old man in nova scotia still has to pay for his fucking medicine. It's just a reduced price. Heart medicine is still fucking insanely expensive.

Because I don't want to pay for
>retarded chain smokers
>fatties
>people who can afford their own treatment easily
>inferior treatment for myself and others

Hehehe and our system will keep getting more backed up with all the niggers and shitskins were bringing in.

>taking care of your people
What if only ~60% of the population are your people?

What a dumb cunt. She still can contribute and give her money to some sort of charities. Being forced to pay for someone is fascism and taxes are thievery.

>be me
>Health insurance is mandatory in the Netherlands
>Still have to pay big bucks for medicine.
>Appointments always take a long time because hospitals are filled with unhealthy shitskins.

Fuck universal care.

This right here.
I don't want to be paying for minorities, it's as simple as that.

>poo is brown! icky poo poo people!

>poonig! dont tuch me poo im cumskin Beautiful

>u a poo. ur skin a poo

Why is Sup Forums so obsessed with propping up the status quo? The fucking millionaires who bought the White House want health care to stay private in USA because, surprise surprise, single-payer health care only benefits the poor, not the wealthy.

Every first-world country has health care for all of its citizens. We also have conservative parties who want to KEEP it that way. So it's not even a bipartisan issue here, because we know that it fucking works.

Stop being useful idiots and playing into the fucking fat-cat Republican party line. Even Donald Trump when he was campaigning said he wanted to keep health coverage for pre-existing conditions. He even promised it and it's a huge part of why he won the primary. Why are you cheering him on now that he's backing down from the positions you lauded during the election?

i feel the same way!

This is the reality of open border + healthcare

In my mental breakdown NEET days I willingly starved so I could help my mother pay for her medicine.

Fuck the big pharma kikes, man, race war when

It took billions of years for humans to reach 2.5 billion people.

It only took 70 years to triple it, Whites can do whatever the fuck they want, they earned it.

I'm ridiculing you, menstrual-flag.

>free healthcare
>pay extra taxes
Hmm.

people with preexisting conditions somehow got healthcare before obamacare (America existed before 2011), stop buying into hysterical liberal bullshit

She's got a point though. Only a monstrous human bean wouldn't want to pay for my half-black autistic triplets' gender reassignment surgeries.

Exactly. There should be a tiered healthcare insurance, not universal.

Americans are bred to love conflict to adore destruction. Socialism is opposed to our very souls. In fact we won't be really happy until we are tearing across the galaxy in conflict with the various intelligences that inhabit it.

For the average shill everyone is "his people"
This is what globalisation does to you.

>not getting obvious sarcasm
i think the average iq of this board may be a bit outside the grasp of your tiny, shitskin mind.

>free healthcare
>I dont care that I have to pay more in taxes for it
Why is the left so retarded?

Niggers and spics aren't "my people".

Healthcare is provincial so even then she supports paying taxes to support a specific group of people

well I don't want to pay taxes.
What are you going to do, shoot me?
Oh wait, yes you are, because we live in an authoritarian police state

I'm glad my country thinks people should be punished for keeping themselves healthy and out of the hospital.

This is why I LOVE my country.

Socialized medicine only works in Canada due to it being 85% white, with most of their minorities being Asian. America is only 63% white, with +30% being black or hispanic. Socialized medicine is completely impossible here, baring it be based on a national socialist economic model where the rich pay high rates unless they have a lot of children.

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE YOU PIECES OF SHIT

SHADUPP, JAMAL, MUHFUGGA!

*blapblap*

There's nothing wrong with conflict don't be such a pussy FUCK YOU FAGGOT DIE

I don't want the status quo stupid leaf, I want to change my healthcare to completely private.

I don't want to pay for fat people and smokers. Make them pay more, and maybe I'll be on board.

Oh-emm-gee right?? I saw John Oliver® do a great segment on this on HBO®. Why can't these Drumpfftards join the Resistance™? Down with the status quo!

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Worst part is that shitskins get free health care with no own risk. if you get a pass to stay in the netherlands you get higher gibmedats and totally free healthcare. So all those fucktards that dont know how our hospital system works and go straight to intensive care when they have a bloody nose dont even have to pay up for their fuckup.

While I agree with you in theory, I think people would eventually reject such a system if they felt they were being "opressed" by socioeconomics. The ethicality of socialized medacine is debatable, but one has to admit that as nations progress and become complacent the lower classes will begin to rebel against social structs that they see as limiting their access to goods

Come on now dude, everyone knows money isn't real! The government can just print out as much money as they want and put it into them programs. The only reason they don't is because those evil white men are keeping it for themselves.

I have better use for my money than paying for a triple back surgery because some idiot drove his bike into a wall at 70mph

>if you want to live in this nation, you must pay taxes
OMG STATIST! Fucking fascist authoritarian police state trying to take away my rights! Taxation is theft! Muh helicopter rides!
>if you want to live on this large chunk of privately owned land I inherited and have never since developed, you must pay rent. Also unlike the state I have no accountability through elections, so if you don't like my policies you have no means of recourse and I can kick you out at will
This is totally different than a state. What a based property owner who pulled himself up by his bootstraps.

If you want to pay for retards to have medical procedures, go ahead. There's nothing stopping you.

Just don't take my money, because I don't want to pay for anyone else's medicine.

U jelly?

>no digits
>not an argument

The problem is it's usually not the elderly man in Nova Scotia, or the little boy in Alberta. It's mostly the single mother in Toronto who pays no taxes and in also on multiple social benefit programs, or the illegal immigrant who works tax-free and somehow receives welfare despite being an illegal.

And how the fuck are sanctuary cities a thing? Isn't that the most illegal, unconstitutional thing possible, a city where the government officials directly ignore federal laws and hide illegal immigrants from the authorities? Should we be able to sue and fire every single government official who's involved with sanctuary cities?

#1 doesn't benefit me, #2 does. As for accountability, there's a little thing called profit, usually it evolves people voluntarily giving you their money.

The less US-Americans there are, the better for the world. They're a disease to the world; full of sin.

Exactly and this is from someone who has universal health care. I'm all for REAL pre-existing (children born with diseases, emergency surgery, etc) but not for treatment through fault of my own. That list of coverage is getting smaller by the minute.

We'll see how that virtual signaling dip shit feels after the barbarians are done draining whats left out of it. Say hello to 80% tax rates.

I am glad I have to wait 6-8 months for a Cat Scan. It makes me a happy canuck that I have to get on a waiting list of 1 1/2 years to get my surgical procedure.

burgers are the weakest race

It's free but I have to pay an extra tax for it.

If you advocate for statewide healthcare then you also ought to advocate for a culture of healthiness as well. After all it's only morally right that if you're going to be apart of a collectivized system of healthcare that you also do as little as possible to strain that system. But of course the people who advocate for free healthcare are always, without fail, those who are rich enough to afford it or those who are unhealthy as fuck, either through their own actions or inherently so, and demand that someone else pay for it. Furthermore higher taxation leads to class stagnation and means that those in the middle and lower class are either too taxed to accrue generational wealth and advance their wealth or simply content to live as they are. This in turn creates a codependency on the government and makes people much easier to control. Voice your dislike over something your government is doing? Uh oh, looks like the free healthcare you've grown dependent on is now on the chopping block. Better keep your head down like a good pleb.

Essentially I oppose free healthcare because it robs people of their agency, responsibility and makes them slaves to the state.

It works in societies that are not overburdened by freeloaders. Best example is Sweden, where the taxpayer has the option between public healthcare (that he has to wait in line for) or get private care while Ahmed and his friends either cut through the line for public healthcare or get private care (paid by the government kronor).

System is fucked and I can't blame US for not implementing free healthcare - basically white people paying for black people's health bills

It's true, though. Without social measures to make sure all nationals are entitled to basic living needs, the whole nationalist song just turns into Jewry. Fuck NatLib, they are krypto-kikes and deserve the gallows.

>decent person
She obviously has not been to the states. We shove our cocks down each others throats. This lady has no idea what she is talking about.

Well then pay for it, what's the problem? You don't have to pay for the entire thing, just donate a couple of bucks (ever heard of gofundme)?

Why do you need this middleman called a government that takes your money by force, wastes about 75% on administrative costs (ie themselves) and uses the remaining 25% to pay for the surgery. Isn't it 100x more better just to use a gofundme and have a middle man that takes 1% at most?

Its your migration policy thats fucked, not universal healthcare system. Europe has this system for decades and it worked OK till we started importing shitskins en masse.

Of course it works. We're paying through the nose for it in taxes. Take that 10-15K (the difference if we were paying average US income tax rates) and shop around to insurance companies. Then tell me how great our shitty health care is. Its already starting to fail based on wait times and pissed off doctors wanting more cash.

You still need private coverage to supplement a surprising amount procedures because its been trimmed down over the years. The only advantage we have is our drug rates.

If people spent 2 seconds looking through the nonsense covered in Obamacare you might change your mind.

>True cost of health care to average family is $11K per year - ctvnews.ca/health/true-cost-of-health-care-to-average-family-is-11k-per-year-report-1.2525114

>police force
>roads
>public services
>legislature
>does not benefit me
Kek
With no government, how would the owner in #1 stop a gang of mangy nonwhites from burning his land and raping his wife? Sure he could hire private police, but then what grounds would these police have to arrest anyone? What if the gang had their own police force that supported their behaviour? Their own private courts? States work well, and are necessary, so long as they preserve ethnic homogenity and do not support degeneracy

It's not about free healthcare or little kids or old faggots. The issue is that we don't trust the government to be the facilitator of healthcare. Taking care of those who cannot take care of themselves is a role that needs to go back to the church.

>a gang of mangy nonwhites from burning his land and raping his wife?

That shit happens all the time. So obviously, government isn't stopping shit.

A pertinent question to our times is, with a government, how do the people stop a gang of Molech worshiping pedos from infiltrating their government and selling them out?

This is a great point

America pays more for their system tham other Western nations.

What Libertarians and Republicans need to realize is that healthcare isnt an elastic good. People NEED it, so they'll be forced to pay the large prices.

>NEED
theres alot of things i need...
universal healthcare forces the governments to go full socialist bc of costs, healthy citizens = cheaper, then u got all these stupid people that should be dead already.
The government starts to control peoples private life choices because they provide for health service, then the citizens become cattle for the government, work, pay taxes, dont die, eat healthy, dont do drugs etc etc. See it in sweden, people live so they can pay taxes...

I believe in free healthcare.

I believe if you're a criminal in a country with free healthcare you should be excluded from free healthcare.

I believe you should pay more depending on the severity of the crime you committed.

Stop calling it free healthcare its not.

except in america its

>pay extra taxes for
>McBeetus to get his beetus treatments
>Boogie to get his heart transplant
we're not paying shit for you retards.

I can kinda see this kind of thing working in an ethnically homogenous nation, though "free healthcare" is still a misnomer.

Yeah, and I'm sure all of the people whose taxes skyrocket and can no longer afford to live like a decent human being will be greatful too

THIS.

Maybe stop cramming the country with people who don't speak my language and don't share my values and telling me they're 'mine' to now take care of for the rest of their lives.

Univeral health care sounds less socialist

lel, she thinks "universal healthcare" covers open heart surgery... LEL..... I have lived in Aus and Greece, both have universal health care, but NOT FUCKING WAY is a major surgery part of that. You pay.. you fucking pay... "heart medication" is only subsidised and not free. so fuck this whore. You still must fucking pay. And in Australia you never EVER get your money back from the bogan fags stealing from you. And greece, debnts. IT DOESNT WORK.... FULLSTOP... whore thinks she is decent human being when she would rather see entire humanity collapse from gimmedats

>taking care of your people
>now they want nationalism
>when whitey pays for genelets

HAHAHAH keep these threads coming on the daily boys nothing better than genelets getting BTFO god bless america

>it doesn't work in greece so it wouldn't work in the US
You make some valid points, though.

A little boy from arabia more like

>it only works in white homogeneous countries
>therefore it would work in the US
woooooooooow

I'll pay for my people all day long, because I value my community. But I would throw those "refugees" straight back into the ocean and let the sharks eat them because they mean nothing to me.

Lets not talk about the "free" healthcare in different countries that are crumbling because of people leeching off it. (Shitskins in the case of the UK, Combined with unemployment)

Services that should be life saving are now life threatening if you go through the NHS, if its an illness other than a common cold i go to the GP, anything else its Private. There are Queues forming in the A&E beacause there isnt enought doctors and nurses to handle the load. And they dont even get paid that much, a half arsed electrician can earn more than a nurse or a doctor who works in A&E.

Its fucked.

Pay for Boogie's health care it's a human right

There already is

Funny coming from a Jerry

america is too diverse to go for single payer. its the reason conservatives oppose it even tho they are to much of a bunch of faggots to say it out loud

this fucking five year old

>smug anime girl laughing.gif

>legislature inherently beneficial
I agree with everything else but public services (i.e. disabled transportation), come on though, don't tell me that a legislative branch passing new laws is by and of itself a good thing.

Also obviously ancap is retarded, but don't pretend a socialist republic has any leg up on them. I'd rather a quick, painful death, then slow, numbing, drudging horror followed by fear of a lack of release, until the monotony forces my hands around my own neck.