as he placed the body of christ on my tongue i detected the pungent odor of the altar boys taint
Nathaniel Phillips
Any idea who will be our next pope? I'm gettihng fed up of this one.
Isaiah Martinez
Very glad to hear it, Polebro
Will be conservative, I think. Although Pope Francis gets a lot of criticism, one of the areas where he hasn't been disappointing (with the exception of a couple of egregious US appointments) is in appointing Cardinals. But probably not one of the prominent ones who've spoken out, like Cardinal Burke. Probably someone like Cardinal Oullet of Leafland
Zachary Gonzalez
I hope for Cardinal Sarah. He is beyond based.
William Perez
How long do you think pope Francis has left? While I don't hate the man, I do not like the liberty he takes when telling the world what a "True Catholic" should be doing, like the whole Refugees Welcome support and what not. He seems to want to take care of Muslims in the middle east rather than Christians getting persecuted across the world.
Connor Edwards
Good to see a Christian leader with a pair of balls for once. So sick of this watered down 'nice guy' act the church has going at the moment.
Samuel Nguyen
Could anyone tell me what confession is like? I need to do confession, but I wouldn't know how to confess as I am quite ignorant on it.
Camden Powell
Difficult to tell. He looks noticably unsteady on his feet & needs help up & down stairs. But the body can give up long before the organs. Regardless of what he's said, if he, as is looking likely, is the Pope to bring SSPX back in to the fold, the pontificate will,in my opinion, have been a success.
Since you like Pole's pic of Cardinal Sarah
>“The Church is gravely mistaken as to the nature of the real crisis if she thinks that her essential mission is to offer solutions to all the political problems relating to justice, peace, poverty, the reception of migrants
On average Pope serve 6-7 years. And he is already served 4 African Church is surprisingly based. Probably because that your only neighbors are Islamists and literal pagans.
Robert Peterson
“Thus, a good man, though a slave, is free; but a wicked man, though a king, is a slave. For he serves, not one man alone, but what is worse, as many masters as he has vices.” ― Augustine of Hippo, City of God
Wyatt Miller
>pope gets saved by stem cells
Oh the irony.
Justin Taylor
>Go in >Hello father. It's been [last time you went to confession. If never, just say it's your first time] >These are my sins >Say sins >Priest: ok, here is some guidance & your penance to do. Now say act of contrition >Act of contrition: pic related >Priest: I absolve you of your sins through Christ our Lord
Jacob Martin
Let me give you some tough love: Catholics are cucks. The current pope is a joke. Your brand of Christianity is dying because it's weak and pathetic. Adjust yourselves accordingly if you want to change those facts.
Samuel Adams
Yeah, yeah, you can leave it where we usually leave something that we heard ten times time in past half of hour aka trash can. Say hello to Anderson when you will leave.
Julian Williams
To add to that, there are five really important thing that you have do to make your confession good. 1.Examination of conscience - My sins against God, others & self 2. Act of contrition -Being sorry for what I’ve done -Real sorrow 3. Amendment -Promise not to do our sins anymore -trying to avoid temptation 4. confession - to tell the priest our sins -Honest acceptance of our mortal & venial sins 5. penance -Doing what the priest told us to do - prayer & resolutions -Renewal of life
2&4 are most important.
Grayson Hill
>Catholics are cucks They literally conquered your whole continent and defended Europe from incessant attacks >Current Pope is a joke Not an argument against Catholicism >Your brand is dying Church membership in 2007 was 1.147 billion people (17% of the global population at the time), increasing from the 1950 figure of 437 million and 654 million in 1970. On 31 December 2008, membership was 1.166 billion, an increase of 11.54% over the same date in 2000, and slightly greater than the rate of increase of the world population (10.77%)
Cooper Lee
just leave the thread if you don't like catholics, it's not because the Pope and some churches communities shout the loudest that it defines every catholics as cucked
Charles Ortiz
Thanks, but I don't know how to bring my sins. Do I have to explain them?
I'm autistic so I get quite anxious over little things that I can't plan.
Michael Ward
>Romans Kill Jesus >Monopolize his legacy + use the church to oppress the masses Jesus was again'st Establishment Religion guys
Landon Johnson
>Everyone is welcome.
Easton Davis
You have to say them, yes, but you don't need to 'explain' them. If you're autistic & it'd help, you can even write them down and take the paper with you. The priest can't see you
Charles Davis
Thanks for the help, this is usefull
Jeremiah Powell
what's that supposed to mean ???
Levi Nguyen
Being welcomed does not mean that you can walk into our living room and started to shit on our carpet. And you wonder why you have illegal immigrants.
Owen Murphy
bump
Michael Perry
Bumping with churches
Jayden Lee
Last posts: Dubs Dubs Trips Quads?
Noah Ward
Catholicism is a corruption of Jesus' true church
Ethan Price
That's why we are in perfect harmony with Scripture and earliest accounts of Christian life like Didache?
Christian Collins
>Here are the keys, Peter. The gates of hell will never prevail against the Church I am entrusting to you *2,000 years later* >Jesus wasn't serious. I believe everything he said except the part that means I'd have to actually commit to something
Lincoln Reyes
>>Here are the keys, Peter. The gates of hell will never prevail against the Church I am entrusting to you
he didnt say that though
also >jesus set up the catholic church and said we can decide what is and isnt christianity >t. the catholic church oh how convenient
the catholic church preaches just war theory
the early christians were executed for refusing to serve in the army
but yeah the catholic church is SO true to christianity amirite
and lets not even get into the burning of heretics
Adrian Gonzalez
Paul wasn't condemned for being a soldiers, but because he persecuted Christians, which is what those early Christians would have had to do if they enlisted in the army. Pls understand just war theory better
Jordan Gonzalez
You sound like if you didn't read Maccabees.
Angel Bailey
go read the entire sermon on the mount and then try and justify murder in a christian context
oh right
you cant
incidentally that is all war is, murder on a mass scale
you sound like you didnt listen to jesus
Angel Young
i dont know what Paul has to do with anything by the way, i never mentioned him and he has nothing to do with the christian prohibition against murdering your neighbour
Elijah Adams
definitely gonne bea juice
Ayden Brown
You cited early Christians refusal to enlist in the Roman army as a sign fighting is against Catholicism. It's not. Persecuting your fellow Catholics, as the Roman army did, is
Parker Richardson
Does anyone know any good books to recommend to a self proclaimed "secularist" who follows guys like sam harris and molymeme? I've been in talks with this guy, a real bright kid, who honestly believes you can have morals despite him admiting that with his own idealogy there are "no absolutes." He also denys free will and frankly having talked to him about that I realized I need to read more on the church's proof of free will, so any books on that would also be great.
Have a blessed day.
Levi Evans
Personal private lessons from an SSPX priest (assuming they'd be willing to teach a NEET like me) or RCIA? The closest novus ordo church is a 15 minute walk. The only SSPX parish is way downtown.
Christian Young
RCIA.
Ayden Miller
>he didnt say that though Matthew 16:18-19 (KJV) "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven" Yeah, sure he didn't say that.
Alexander Fisher
Honestly user, the best argument I've seen on that topic was in C.S Lewis' Mere Christianity. Nobody says you can't be moral as an atheist. What we say is that there's no reason to be moral as an atheist. As C.S Lewis says, for a relativist 'I ought' has the same compulsive power same as 'I itch'.
Connor Collins
Thanks user, I'll be certain to recommend it to him.
Austin Peterson
Any reasons why?
Kayden Flores
You can always find traditional churches and orders with the Catholic Church proper and still remain in full communion with the holy see. Moreover, while I certainly understand the rejection of parts of vatican 2, it still offers some good things and as such wholesale rejection of the church both causes one to lose out on those and that many benefits of the Church, and also prevents one from actually changing the bad parts of Vatican 2. Rejection of the holy see prevents any real changes: it's a powerful symbolic move certainly, but the protestants didn't get any changes of Church doctrine by leaving the Church and neither will groups like SSPX. Rather, by remaing in full communion, one is able to enter into the Church's internal discourse and thus has a chance to change the rejected parts of Vatican 2 from the inside, something that can never be done by rejection of full communion.
Cooper Hill
>What is FSSP
Angel Sanchez
Friendly bump. I'm no Catholic, but I appreciate what you do.
Kevin Lee
Disappointing to see this thread so far down in the catalogue.
But it's amazing that Sup Forums, a board for non-mainstream views and political incorrectness, is actually fostering a Catholic community devoted to Love and having a healthy family and soul.
Is the world really so far gone that traditional Catholicism, focused around having a healthy family, virtuous life, and doing the right thing has become politically incorrect?
Owen Stewart
It's not made by a Catholic, though I still hope you will enjoy this spiritual and pure music.
>Is the world really so far gone that traditional Catholicism, focused around having a healthy family, virtuous life, and doing the right thing has become politically incorrect? In many ways, sadly yes. But it's changing I think. Granted, this is purely anecdotal, but I've seen a lot more young people coming to mass lately, and I've been going to mass near the crack of dawn all 22 years I've been alive, so I'd assume that in the later masses there is even more people.
Guess people are finally looking at what secular society brings, and realizing that it hasn't fulfilled that inante human longing for the fulfillment only God can bring.
Aaron Phillips
You're right. My experience is also anecdotal, but I figured I'd share.
I was raised by liberal progressive parents, and raised as a militant atheist. But seeing everything around me at my school, and in other places, I felt like life had no meaning. I was missing something, and no one else around me seemed to care about what they were missing. Eventually this pushed me to starting to go to Mass, reading early Catholic books, and eventually converting. Now I'm in university, away from my parents, and a healthy Catholic.
The degeneracy around us is certainly prompting people my age to turn to religion, especially Bill Nye's new show, I would assume.
Levi Baker
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Asher Sullivan
Are there any good videos or books on proper toe sucking? There are some Muslims at my uni and I want to make them feel welcomed the Catholic way.
Juan Torres
i am happy these threads exist, i finally managed to awake for mass this morning, happy Sunday of the Shepherd brothers.
Robert Peterson
Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
Colton Butler
This is very nice thanks belgian bro i like your country but i have only been to Ypres
user on here recommended Guillaume Dufay last week. Thaks!
Angel Morgan
Took my family to mass today, we have enjoyed returning to church after recently moving away from our families and living in a new state.
What is your favorite hymnal? I grew up with Gather and miss it.
Blake Ross
Thank you, friend!
I've been to England a few times, and Scotland once. Your countryside has some beautiful little chapels, and pic related was amazing to see in person.
Owen Collins
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Cameron Stewart
Salisbury Cathedral and Christ Church Oxford, those blew me away
Kevin Bell
>Took my family to mass today, we have enjoyed returning to church after recently moving away from our families and living in a new state. If I'm understanding this right, does that mean you didn't go to church before you moved? Not judging, just wondering if I got thst right, and if so what about the move caused you to return to the church.
Jason Rivera
A selection of books from my formal theological studies for any fellow Catholics or people curious about Catholicism:
Called to Communion - Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Sacramental & liturgical theology) Truth and Tolerance - Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger (Ecclesiology / Catholic Identity) The Meaning of Tradition - Yves Congar (Liturgical Theology / Reform) The Shape of Catholic Theology - Aidan Nichols (general theology) The Trinitarian Controversy - William G Rusch (Christology) A Key to the Doctrine of the Eucharist - Abbot Vonier (Sacramental theology) An Introduction to the New Testament - Raymond E Brown (Scripture) The Cambridge Companion to the Gospels - Stephen C Barton (Scripture) At the Origin of the Christian Claim - Luigi Giussani (Christology) Early Christian Fathers - Cyril C Richardson (primary sources from the Early Church.
Austin King
went to latin mass for the first time today we were 13 people in total and I was kinda lost the whole time it being in latin and all it was also 20 minutes longer, which I didn't expect
Angel Mitchell
That's great user. And frankly, it wouldn't be hard to learn Latin so you could understand the mass. It's easy enough for an English speaker to learn, and I would imagine even easier for someone who's native tounge is a Romance language.
Colton Morgan
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Mason Peterson
it was also sung in its entirety
it's definetely a strange sensation to think the 13 of us were the only people in the entire city (barcelona) who listened to latin mass today
Jason Garcia
What is wrong with burning the heretics tho? They were asked to convert themselves everytime
Joseph James
Posting here for help because I genuinely don't know where else to ask.
I was raised Catholic, and left the church in my teenage years during an edgy atheist phase. After a lot of reading, soul searching, and contemplation, I am firmly theist again. I studied philosophy in school, familiarized myself with some of the major Catholic thinkers, and fully support the church as an organization and fountain of European culture. HOWEVER. I do not know if I am willing to rejoin the church and attend mass again. After reading and properly studying the Bible and Christian philosophy, it saddens me to think of how intellectually bankrupt my initial exposure to Catholicism was. How could I not become an atheist when I was given a shadow of real faith to work with? I think back to the priests chastising my very working class town for leaving one dollar bills in the collection plate, and hearing gospel readings with zero context and zero relevant homilies. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
So, what do? Bite the bullet and rejoin? Continue to study and appreciate as an outsider? Third option I'm not thinking of? Idk man
Cameron Barnes
What does Ecclesiastes mean to you?
Anthony Gomez
Hello my brothers and sisters.
I went to mass at Saint Patrick's Cathedral in New York City for the first time, and it is by far the most beatiful building I've ever been in. I'm going to the vatican next month and it makes me very excited. The homily was very beatiful about knowing the difference between right and wrong internally. I hope that all of you had an equally nice mass! Take the day to reflect on that little voice that tells you not to sin, and take heed to make it louder than the voice of Satan.
In other news, to blog a little, I go to probably the most liberal university in New York City, and I brought a conservative, qt Christian with me to Church today! She identifies as baptist, but she is baptised and (presumably) confirmed in the church. We had a great time. Is this how I make it bros?
Eli Turner
Honestly, in many cases there were probably better and more moral answers than burnings. Like exile and complete isolation from society until one recants there heretical claims. Thst said, the vast majority of executions of heretics were done by overly zealous lay people and leaders, not the church or clergymen.
Kayden Anderson
What school user? NYU? Fellow NYC here, St Patricks is an absolute joy.
Christopher Long
That is correct. My wife and I were both raised catholic but never participated in church together. Our children are 3 and 1. After moving away from our immediate families returning to church was a way for us to find a new community of people that we could trust and share similar values with.
Also, the degeneracy of the regressive left has shown me the importance of raising my children as Catholic and conservative. This is an issue I was completely ignoring until recently.
Im down at the Cooper Union NYC bro. Graduate next year, hoping to go to NYU for grad school
Hudson Smith
I am a confirmed catholic, and am wondering how to refute liberation theology. Is it not a correct application of christs teachings? I fear for the church being corrupted by this marxist co-opting of the faith.
Michael Gray
> what do my catholic brethren think of eastern orthodoxy? How do we mend the rift in the one holy apostolic Church, the Bride of Christ?
Cameron Davis
Wonderful, what are you studying?
Ayden Cooper
Wayward for political reasons, with made up theological reasons following shortly after. It is quite sad, but I don't see them bowing to papal authority anytime soon.
Currently Civil Engineering, but I hope to continue my education in pure mathematics. I am thankful that we have a very well educated classicist professor who has been an absolute joy as well.
Luis Howard
I have several really great pics of a French Cathedral, Ill see if I can find them
Praying for France
Carson Taylor
I have 0 contact with eastern orthodoxy desu lad, I don't really know what the differences between us are, but the whole multipatriarch deal seems a bit cucked, especially with one having seat in a muslim turkey and the other one from the former soviet union
Thomas Torres
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Joseph Richardson
>I do not know if I am willing to rejoin the church and attend mass again. After reading and properly studying the Bible and Christian philosophy, it saddens me to think of how intellectually bankrupt my initial exposure to Catholicism was. How could I not become an atheist when I was given a shadow of real faith to work with? I think back to the priests chastising my very working class town for leaving one dollar bills in the collection plate, and hearing gospel readings with zero context and zero relevant homilies. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Unfortunately, that is one of the biggest issues with many Christian institutions today. People are just told to believe but never taught the why, just the what. This is why we see both a rise in atheism and so many people who remain faithful being zealous and angry at any rejection of the Faith. People don't know why they belive what they believe, so they either abandon it at the first challenge to their faith, or become so stubborn and zealous they never want to know the why, and end up making fools of themselves. Having gone through a Diocesan grade/middle school, a jesuit College prep school and now studying at ND, I look back on how religion is taught at the k-12 level, and I think it needs a whole lot of changes.
That said, the Church is still the truth. While some of the people who make it up may fail (as to be expected, even the apostles weren't perfect), that doesn't mean you should abandon it. Rather, you should embrace it and rejoin it, and seek to change those issues within it, working to make it better. You clearly have the knowledge and will to do it, perhaps that is why God has given you those gifts: to go and set the world on fire as Saint Ignatius said, to work to change those very real issues of the church.
Cameron Rodriguez
Go back, the practice of being present at Church with people who will not share the exact interpretation of your beliefs is good for the health and growth of your spirit and your community. I get the impression that you will enjoy participating.
If you feel called, you can eventually provide some leadership about the issues that concern you with the people that matter most, your fellow parishioners.
James Bell
>teenage years during an edgy atheist phase But as a le refined 20 year old with a P E N C H A N T for the lamb i'm rdy for hiz graces xD. You are a heretic.
Adam Price
throwing stones
Camden Robinson
Wish we would end schism soon but that ain't happening, not until older clergy, both from our and your side die off. Plus I kinda grow up with EOC. Feast of Saint Anthony every Summer in near EOC parish is big cultural festival in a shitohle where I live.
Blake Garcia
Jesus was talking about illegals going over the border today
Adam James
Not 20, far from it, and technically I'm an apostate, not a heretic. At least get your terminology right my dude.
>people don't know why they believe what they believe This exactly. What you are saying is encouraging though, thank you.
Thank you for your response
Michael Lopez
What do you guys think of Jordan Peterson? I know he has described himself as Christian, but has he ever specified whether or not he thinks the resurrection was an actual event or merely symbolic?
Landon Phillips
Gee user, that sure sounds like a Christian message. It's not like even Peter denied Christ three times, that Paul started out as a persecutor of the church or that many of the saints were originally very amoral people
Benedict XVI's Liberation Theology: Preliminary Notes is a good place to start. In short, while liberation theology does raise some good points, it has an ingrained tendency to end up viewing any and all heirarchies as a form of opressesion, which is highly contrary to Christ's teachings, since He, as God, is King of kings and inhernetly above all others. It also can put emphasis on the poor to the point of ignoring the Church and Christ, which goes against Christ's teachings that "the poor will always be with [us]" and we shouldn't let that get in the way of glorifying God.
