What do they mean by this?

Ryan Jackson
Ryan Jackson

"The type of health care patients want"
most people want single payer national health care

What do they mean by this?

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Juan Long
Juan Long

most people want single payer national health care
A

Dylan Price
Dylan Price

I dont care what most people want
I dont want to pay for crap I dont need

Jacob Rivera
Jacob Rivera

most people want single payer national health care
single payer national health care

The whole damn problem with Obamacare was that it let fat assholes sit around and "reimburse" the federal government with 15 dollars a month, when they really need around a million dollars in care.

Single payer doesn't fucking work, just cancel this shit and privatize.

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

Why do you hate your fellow americans?

Dylan Nguyen
Dylan Nguyen

Doesn't work? How so? It works literally everywhere else. Better outcomes, less cost.

Thomas Ortiz
Thomas Ortiz

because probably only 10% - 15% of this country is actually American

Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez

Better outcomes
subjective
less cost.
its a forced fixed cost
In a free market system you dont have to pay anything if you dont want to

Caleb Ward
Caleb Ward

We have a massive obesity problem, extremely legacious culture that causes doctors to use every single diagnostic test if their patient so much as sneezes to cover their own skin from being sued, and an extremely Jewish FDA that creates virtual monopolies on drugs. Health care costs in the America are not going to go down with single payer.

Landon Miller
Landon Miller

It works literally everywhere else

This country has hordes of feral niggers and fatties that constitute the lowest of the spectrum that get healthcare.

When someone like Boogie or another fatass needs over a million dollars in care, the whole single payer doctrine says that they get to "reeimburse" the government, which they aren't ever going to do with their income.

That's why it doesn't work here. There's a shit ton of overflow that the government has to pay for, because no one can or will.

Don't know about Canada, but the population likely makes a difference.

Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

most people want free shit
No way

Jonathan King
Jonathan King

most people want free shit

more news at 11

Connor Jones
Connor Jones

hm, gubberment could ensure better food quality. can't have affordable healthcare with that diet.

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

are they also going to mandate portions and exercise?

Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

You're wrong. Even those economist who believe the most in the free marked, agree that states and taxes are a efficient way of allocating resources, due to economics of scale.
This is simply just an area, where you americans have to admit that the free marked equilibrium doesnt reflect the true social benefit of public healthcare.
You're just cheating yourself.

Nicholas Carter
Nicholas Carter

Most people know national health care isn't free but think treating people should be an obligation they would gladly pay for

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

tax the shit out of crap food, use for healthcare. get rid of food adulterants ("hey, titanium oxide must be in any pizza!") etc.

make your choice, can't have both. sacrificing healthcare is a step back from a modern society. doing that because someone needs their hot pockets, tendied etc. is insane.

Ian Phillips
Ian Phillips

gubberment could ensure better food quality.

Europeans don't really have a good scope of this issue, because the population is sitting at around 320 mil, and over 45% of that is non-white.

Fat poor shitheads and niggers make it impossible for a system like this to work, because of the gibmedats culture and the fact that they can't hold up their end of the single payer deal.

White people that pay their way and live well suffer under public healthcare. Denmark hasn't this concept yet acquired, because it's like 90% original danish whites. If your country was 40% nigger, you'd understand.

Hudson Hernandez
Hudson Hernandez

Add to it the societal/economic benefit of people being able to work because they are treated for medical conditions. The American health care system is completely irrational.

Hunter Anderson
Hunter Anderson

the population

Meaning the US population, clarification

Nolan Ward
Nolan Ward

the true social benefit of public healthcare.
I dont care about social benefit
I dont want to pay for it

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

sacrificing healthcare
If you want healthcare pay for it

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

tfw three month wait for sprained ankle

Asher Fisher
Asher Fisher

it's all about me

Psychotic/sociopathic

Hudson Taylor
Hudson Taylor

Daily reminder that Psychotic/sociopathic is just the secular humanist term for heretic

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

I've sprained my ankle (it turned out to be broken), saw a doctor within an hour. You clearly don't know shit.

Grayson Nelson
Grayson Nelson

You haven't read shit in this thread.

Single payer doesn't work because niggers and fatties want free shit. i.e. I have to subsidize their lazyness. it's not psychotic to have a concern for what this government will hold you to.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

You make a good point. There is no way a single payer/welfare state system will work, if there is distrust between the citizens of the country. Just look at Greece.
You're probably the type of guy who pretends to be a patriot and loves America, but doesn't even want to contribute to the society.

Or you're just trying to be edgy.

50/50

Adam Cruz
Adam Cruz

This. They do dumb crap knowing that everything is covered and there will be no consequences for themselves.

Joshua Gray
Joshua Gray

hurr muh feels

give me a break, leaf

welfare niggers and other degenerates will break the system even further by taking in more than they put out. This isn't hard to understand, it's not even the economics of its sustainability, it's just common sense

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

Again most people know national health care isn't free, but it has the best outcomes and is the cheaper system and the system the majority of people would gladly pay for even in a country where it isn't even put forth as an option or advocated for.

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

You dont know anything about American society
It is not about begging the government to take care of us

Julian Perez
Julian Perez

Again most people know national health care isn't free
niggers and landwhales much like leafs arnt people

Matthew Reyes
Matthew Reyes

the cheaper system
Im am 34 and have have not gone to the doctor since I was a kid
I didnt have to pay anything up until the mandate

Noah Ward
Noah Ward

your gonna go postal, arn't you

Camden Williams
Camden Williams

People just want shit for free. Best thing to do is open up the state lines and allow for sale of policies. Like car insurance. I live in the "stroke belt" of the South. Many people with self induced diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease because they eat like shit and don't exercise.

I worked for one of the major "private" medicaid/care insurance plans. The fraud, waste, and abuse was out of control. I was making good money, more than I ever made and probably will ever make again. I couldn't deal with sitting in a cubical 8 hour's a day and dealing with shitty ass patients who wanted EVERYTHING for free. Some were okay, only using medicaid as a bridge until they got back on their feet. Most of the Medicare patients were decent. But some would cuss you out up and down if they had to pay $30 for an eye exam even though you found them a voucher for free fucking glasses. I quit because I felt that the company I worked for was scamming the government out of a shit ton of money.

Nolan Rogers
Nolan Rogers

Not even to mention that when the government gets involved, costs blossom out of control and the government then just uses its power disparity to make you pay more because it says so, all while ending up having to pay for shit extra or being denied services on top of it even after having huge chunks of your pay taken by the government. Nothing stops people from taking 30% of their income and putting it towards a health insurance plan. The problem with these retards is that they think they get to have low taxes AND good healthcare because they think others will pay for it.

Asher James
Asher James

Denmark and Nordic countries are a good example of why this shit can only work in a cohesive, healthy, majority white (like 90%) society, which is really hard to find nowadays

The vast, underlying reason that this shit will never work, despite what the Left wants, is because the U.S. is just a nation of mongrels now. 10-20% of Americans are well-meaning white people. The rest are poor, fat or black.

White people get fucked because niggers and Boogie2988 get healthcare that they'll never pay for.

Aiden Cruz
Aiden Cruz

muh free market

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

Denmark and Nordic countries are a good example of why this shit can only work in a cohesive, healthy, majority white (like 90%) society, which is really hard to find nowadays

Have you seen their birthrates?
Socialism will always kill the family

Carson Torres
Carson Torres

Denmark and Nordic countries are a good example of why this shit can only work in a cohesive, healthy, majority white (like 90%) society, which is really hard to find nowadays
no, we're an example of that happening, not proof that it can't happen in a more multi ethnic society. nothing in our success proves anything like that.

Jordan Nelson
Jordan Nelson

Again most people know national health care isn't free,
Most white people.

Niggers and spics don't, they actually DO think its free.

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

Healthcare is perfectly suited for the free market because their is no free rider problem
You want it you pay of it

Leo Reyes
Leo Reyes

I hate other people and resent losing 15% of my paycheck to pay for them. If you can afford hoverboards and iPhones you can afford to feed and care for your goddamn self, I make fucking peanuts and I take zero assistance. If liberals want to pay for everybody they can cut a check themselves and stop being so generous with other people's money.

Alexander Martin
Alexander Martin

Yeah the socialism and nihilistic self-hate in those countries are shit.

I'm not advocating for single payer (see my other posts), but it is the only place in the world that it could, just possibly, work, given that the socialists and the guilt peddlers are killed off.

Joseph Long
Joseph Long

Without our 15% black population we wouldn't be even close to the most obese nation anymore. American blacks are one of the most obese groups in the world.

Carson Gutierrez
Carson Gutierrez

gladly pay for
Then why don't they do it?
Here, pay for little sheniquas' heart transplant so that she can grow up to be a single mother of 5 living in government housing in 10 years
stjude.org/donate

Landon Ward
Landon Ward

would you explain further what you mean please?

make a logic scheme for me so I understand what it is that shows that social democracy is impossible in the USA

Dylan Cruz
Dylan Cruz

you not paying for healthcare has no negative effects on me

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

but it does have some negative consequences for me

Jack Kelly
Jack Kelly

what it is that shows that social democracy is impossible in the USA

Niggers and poor, fat people dragging the rest of society down.

Read the rest of this thread, the reason why "social democracy", which is really just pussy communism, does not work, is because people will always want free shit.

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

Thats your problem

Lincoln Rodriguez
Lincoln Rodriguez

people will always want free shit.

this can't be stressed enough. The problem with just wanting free shit means that you're not actually making shit -- you're stealing that shit from someone else

it's disgusting

Noah Perry
Noah Perry

and when I riot?

I'm sure government intervention can help with the fatty problem, which is probably a pretty big chunk of your health care costs.

what kinda gibs can you really get out of healthcare? opiates?

Eli Price
Eli Price

It's incredibly weird looking at pictures like that. These are the same shitty graphcs I see in my silly job during a meeting and they use them for something as grand as running a country

Juan Bennett
Juan Bennett

and when I riot?
I dont live in the ghetto
You come to the suburbs and riot you get shot

Brayden Brooks
Brayden Brooks

and when I riot?

are you seriously threatening with violence if you can't get things your way? that's a nigger's thought process, holy shit sven

Matthew Reed
Matthew Reed

my point is: you live in the richest country in the world and you tell people to their face that it's their time to die now- they're gonna get mad. You don't think the ghetto nigs got guns?

Jack Fisher
Jack Fisher

Most people don't want single payer in America, most people don't want single payer in Europe. So quit your bullshit, Bernard.

Samuel Gonzalez
Samuel Gonzalez

and when I riot?
We'd mock you for not having your priorities straight.

Lucas Rogers
Lucas Rogers

what you people don't seem to understand is that you can't treat healthcare like any other commodity and not provoke "social unrest".

Nathaniel Anderson
Nathaniel Anderson

what kinda gibs can you really get out of healthcare?

Sven, if you really saw what these feral niggers got out of Obamacare, you would understand the outrage over well-off whites having to subsidize their shit.

The poor here get food, money, clothes, and yes, sometimes drugs, because of the welfare society.

These nogs get millions in healthcare, and "reimburse" the governnment with a few quarters, so they never pay it back. The Democrats peddle single payer because the niggers and spics are their voting base.

Nathan Moore
Nathan Moore

A massive leftist uprising being violently put down would be the best thing that could happen to this country

Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

Australia gets left out again

This is bullshit, our healthcare is better and most importantly the closest in efficiency to privatised healthcare. Using our system the abos leeching off it haven't made a dent in its effectiveness.

John Davis
John Davis

in other matters- how is high school treating you?

Austin Cooper
Austin Cooper

and not provoke "social unrest".
I am literally shaking wiht fear

Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell

I'm pretty sure you had welfare before you had obamacare. and I'm pretty sure countries choose to have welfare because it's a greater social cost to have all the deplorables be completely left out in the rain, because they will start trouble.

Benjamin Gomez
Benjamin Gomez

Have you seen the direction western countries are heading now?
How would this be a bad thing?

Christian Reed
Christian Reed

it's their time to die now

They have the choice to work and pay for their own goddamn healthcare, it's not a false dichotomy of just straight up denying these people a chance to live. They can work for it like civilized people

people are commodity. People live, die, and work in between -- their value is how much they put out. Telling yourself you're valuable and telling other they're valuable without actually being valuable in terms of productivity is just a childish level of entitlement. Go be responsible and take control of your own life, STOP making other people into your slaves

Jace Russell
Jace Russell

I am pretty sure this country was fine before we had welfare

Jose Hall
Jose Hall

They have the choice to work and pay for their own goddamn healthcare
the market for which is so functional

people are commodity

Luis Fisher
Luis Fisher

People die
Its a part of life

Jonathan Peterson
Jonathan Peterson

the market for which is so functional
it is extremely functional. You work, get money, and spent it on healthcare instead of stupid shit like the latest iphone, HD tv, and air jordans

not rocket science.

Charles King
Charles King

so compare the rate of increase of american minimum wage with the increase of prices of health care

Oliver Taylor
Oliver Taylor

pre 1965 america was a lot better, but there were still niggers.

The difference was that welfare gave niggers an outlet to be lazy.

Matthew Hernandez
Matthew Hernandez

Why should they correlate?

Carson Watson
Carson Watson

I feel like a lot of things were different before 1965

Oliver Smith
Oliver Smith

muh minimum wage
how about getting a better job?

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

but then who will live in the fly over states

John Miller
John Miller

thats exactly why the US will fail. no more solidarity or cohesion.

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

no more solidarity or cohesion
that is what immigration does to country

Austin Martinez
Austin Martinez

what? you don't have to live there if you don't want to. Likewise, those people can move. They have that choice. If they choose to stay going against their self-interest, that's their problem, not the taxpayer's

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

so you are fine with the US failing.

Brayden Jackson
Brayden Jackson

I think it would, eventually, become the tax payers problem if all of the central USA be depopulated.

to be honest though: in order to have mobility you have to have money, because you have to have enough that you can dare take that risk.

you keep talking like the US is some kind of nigger tier country. this is the wealthies country on earth. why must it treat its inhabitants this poorly?

Jacob Thomas
Jacob Thomas

he's only in it for the shock

Christopher Campbell
Christopher Campbell

I have personally sat in a waiting room after removing a finger(work injury) for 4 hours waiting to see a doctor, I was bleeding through the gauze they game me onto the floor.

I have 3 close family members who work in a hospital, they all realize how broken the system is after working there for 25+ years, I make around $4700 a paycheck and bearly take home $2500 because of taxes here.

Hearing my family complain about seeing the same people day in and day out abusing the system, I have come to realize you are essentially subsidizing peoples bad decisions, drug addicts who are homeless will check into mental health clinics for the winter and leave for the first week of the month with thier welfare checks, binge for the whole week then come check back in for 3 meals and a roof over thier head. Obese people willl come in weekly complaining about "chest pains" and never lose weight, drug addicted parents will drop thier children off in "youth mental health clinics" because they fucked up raising them and spend the time they are there binging on drugs.

And this is coming from one hospital in a town will a pretty low population size, I cant even imagine what its like in somewhere like toronto or vancouver.

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

yippieh, vidya becomes rl.

immigrants subverting the country are probably the lesser ebil than residents with this mindset.

Ethan Garcia
Ethan Garcia

I dont see how "free" healthcare is going to fix our problems

James Cox
James Cox

How about the states fund their own money for their own single payer healthcare

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

Minimum wage keeps people in big cities
Not the other way around

Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

What is wrong with the mindset of not giving a shit about foreigners?

Alexander Fisher
Alexander Fisher

Burgers will never have universal healthcare because the insurance jew and their own culture means no system would work there.

Any system that would work perfectly well in straya or bongland wont work in burgerstan because they would try to exploit it to death then blame anyone but themselves for jewing it into oblivion.

Isaiah Perry
Isaiah Perry

maybe if we privatized healthcare then instead of onr government telling people 'it's time for you to die' you would have a shit zillion healthcare companies screaming 'BROTHER COME TO US IT IS OUR DUTY THAT YOU LIVE! NO NOT HIM COME TO ME! NO ME!'

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

most people want single payer national health care

youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ

Cooper Flores
Cooper Flores

In a free market system you dont have to pay anything if you dont want to

"please Mr medical equipment company let me tongue your asshole, I need it."

lol have fun individually negotiating prices when your life is literally on the line and every party opposite you knows they can leverage that. I will stick with the collective bargaining power of universal healthcare thanks.

Brody Price
Brody Price

It's the blacks mate.

People always try to jew for free shit, but Niggers are experts at this.

Yeah, I don't really get the slogan "repeal and replace" either. Why not just a flat repeal of obamacare?

Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

if all of the central USA be depopulated.
If people leave, then someone else might make use of that property later and come back as things develop and adjust. There's no fixed "people MUST live in X", that's the beauty of the thing, people change, and so does the environment

in order to have mobility you have to have money, because you have to have enough that you can dare take that risk.

that's why you save up money and cut down on unnecessary expenses if you want to raise funds to move

Justin Robinson
Justin Robinson

they would try to exploit it to death then blame anyone but themselves for jewing it into oblivion.

It's the blacks mate.

People always try to jew for free shit, but Niggers are experts at this.

Q.E.D.

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

Why not just a flat repeal of obamacare

A full out repeal would not be politically smart as millions of Americans would instantly lose healthcare. Once an entitlement has been made it is extremely hard to take it away. Thats why the republicans are supposedly going to pass their bill in 3 phases or something.

Jeremiah Diaz
Jeremiah Diaz

If there wasn't such stringent regulations placed on medical equipment companies, it would be very easy for a competitor to come along an undercut everyone, driving costs down

Jeremiah Lee
Jeremiah Lee

Thats strange, because we do just fine with similarly stringent requirements.

John Smith
John Smith

Let's not forget about the fact that USA is continent sized and all the other countries that have socialist shit going on are the size of single states

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

There is more than one way to skin a cat.

And Australia isn't riddled with nigger entitlement.

I care about is best for my country. As AFA has shown, dindus and gibmedats are capable of ruining anything. One trip to an American DMV and you'd know why single payer healthcare will never flourish in the US.

John Barnes
John Barnes

(((they)))

Lincoln Murphy
Lincoln Murphy

Using the standard assumptions of market economics on something as vital and basic as healthcare
implying "consumers" of healthcare are rational price takers when their lives are literally on the line

Single payer is the way of the future

Inb4 some amerilard comes in and blames niggers and spics

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