Now tell me Sup Forums: why do you hate feminism?

Now tell me Sup Forums: why do you hate feminism?

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cause it hates us (men)

women want to have their cake and eat it too. they want to have all the privileges of being a man, but none of the responsibility

this is what feminism is

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It's followers are dogmatic man-haters because apparently being oppressed is the coolest thing ever. The cold truth is that men and women already have all the same rights and opportunities, the only problem is women still suck because they have no accountability. So instead of realizing they are the problem they pick at media and video games saying it's sexist and THAT is the reason why they can't get ahead.

"No, MANSPREADING! MANSPLAINING!! Those are the reasons I'm fat, single, and poor! It has nothing to do with me!"

Hmm I wonder why black people do not like the KKK...

How can a thing about equality be called feminism? What kind of bullshit it is? It can't be called feminism if it's a belief in equality. It could be equalism or some other shit, but not feminism. Feminism by definition is all about females.

Feminism was NEVER about equality. Even the first feminists, in the times when women rightfully had no eight to vote, believed in women's superiority or entitlement, they just couldn't hope to achieve that when women didn't have the right to vote. Now that they do, feminism moved on to promoting what it was about from the very beginning - emasculating and subordinate men, so they can push us around, which in turn would lead to the collapse of civilization and probably extermination of human kind (that is, assuming that men would not come to their senses at any point). The "feminism is about equality" meme is a lie.

That's why I hate feminism.

Women already have equal rights and opportunities in the west.

What can a man do that a woman can't? What are feminist fighting for at this point? I guess they can't be drafted, but most women don't seem to mind this. Otherwise, I'm hard pressed to think of anything women don't have the right to do.

Because women and men are not equal

Total and utter unawareness


>it's like feminists are 5 yr olds


I wanted to help but not with you cunts

Men and women are not equal.

the only people who hate feminism are bitter white men who want their daughters to grow up with no career

Because tards tell them feminism is something else.
>they are tards
>they believe anything that allows them to hate

If she works hard she will be paid the same amount as him

Because it is run by (((Them))) and women dont deserve equality unless they start inventing shit and going to war while being good at doing so

>The dictionary defines "feminism" as
every time

that's what feminism is about though

it makes the learning and working enviorment better for women.

what is your problem with this?

Feminism is a euphamism for misandry

Women are horribly biased against boys.

It is systemic worldwide statistically significant and reproducible.

cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-gap-boys-lagging/

Feminism has destroyed the world. Islam now!!!

i fully support feminism. men and woman have equal rights right now, and that's great. but womens rights are definitely under threat with mostly muslim third worlders pouring into europe. islam is completely opposed to womens rights and the number one enemy of feminism is muslims. i fully support feminists in this battle.

>cbsnews.com/news/the-gender-gap-boys-lagging/


no you idiot

huurrr wome are doing well so I want a backwards religunnzz to come and blow things up :(((((((

virgin

Because it's not implemented as (((equality of opportunity))) but (((equality of outcome)))

And I don't support equality of outcome. That's anti-meritocratic.

because they are tools of the jew subverting our societies, making women hate men and vice versa, destroying the nuclear family and lowering our birthrates

also, they're fucking insane and don't care about inequalities where men get screwed, or foreign women such as mudslimes

>No equal pay for equal work anywhere in the world.

HRNG
I think I just died inside.

>huurrr birthrates

no, women having rights doesn't fuck up birthrates at all

how does it fuck up birth rates?

The working environment already provides a perfect opportunity for both men and women to work on their career, wages are already equal, working conditions are already equal (but only where women want it, not, for example, in quarries). Women already have equal opportunities. Yet feminists keep demanding. That alone should make people suspicious - if everything is fine and people still "protest", why the fuck do they do that? What is their agenda? And if you actually don't live under a rock and you read what feminists write, listen to what they say and watch what they do, you will see that they"re a retarded female supremacy fascist movement that aims to emasculate and subordinate men for the sake of women's ego (and to their demise, so the opposers of feminism do a service not only to themselves, but to women too).

Men and women do have equal rights and opportunities in the West, and have for well over a generation now, except in places where Islam has taken over.

Literally the only threat to feminism as it is defined there is Islam. Also according to this definition, almost all self-proclaimed feminists aren't actually feminists in any way.

yes but women aren't earnin g as much as men in general. I see no problem with encouraging boys/men to drop careers and take up thing with less pay.

what is your problem with this?

Because it's no longer about equality, it's about misandry.

Equal rights and opportunities impossible because men and women are fundamentally different. Similar to Whites and Blacks, the difference is largely genetic at this point and not environmental.

But since they're not equal and the schools, media, and even business preaches that they are equal, this causes great anger and resentment. It's a casus belli, a reason for constant anger that liberals, Jews, and even cuckservatives can whip up against hated foes.

It's one of the biggest cloak and dagger scams in the world. The cloak being equality, the dagger being the destruction of Western civ.

It's not about equality. It's about control.

Feminists:

Don't want you to approach a girl/say hi to anyone you do not know

want every female in a company to make more money than every man. A female janitor in their eyes should be paid more than the CEO.

Believe if a woman offers an idea, that's the end of the conversation.

Should be able to have sex with whoever they want, marriage irregardless.

Want just her word in a rape investigation. Fuck DNA, and a trial, she promises!

and much much more. Every thing they march about has been addressed legally at least 40 fucking years ago.

They say it themselves: They want to dismantle the systems of oppression.
Those systems are courts, armed forces, law enforcement, education, healthcare, entertainment, literature, concepts of gender, of nationality and a family.
And the people stand and clap like brainwashed lemmings, because they never think about what that phrase means.
Feminists are just bolscheviks in skirts, nothing else.

>Women need more money because women are too fucking stupid to pay less.

if men and women hate eachother, they won't be making babies very often will they?

if women are busy having careers and earning lot of lovely shekels, they won't be having many babies, will they?

you can't see the link between divide and conquer on men and women, and the breakdown of the nuclear family, and lower birthrates?

noticed you didn't disagree with the rest of myt post huh? and what do you make of the vast majority of influential feminists being jews?

Because Men and women aren't equal

why do we need women to work at all? wouldn't they prefer to keep house and look after the family?

who benefits from women working? in the 50s/60s a family could be quite comfortable on just the mans salary, they could buy a house, take holidays etc. what changed, and cuo buono? who benefited?

is working some noble thing now? or just some necessary thing done to survive, despite being boring and unpleasant?

>if men and women hate eachother, they won't be making babies very often will they?
who says anyone is hating each other? where did you get this from?

>if women are busy having careers and earning lot of lovely shekels, they won't be having many babies, will they?
there's million of women and it only takes 9 months.
the men should look after the babies at home, maybe? maybe the men should do it

>you can't see the link between divide and conquer on men and women, and the breakdown of the nuclear family, and lower birthrates?
how is it divide and conquer? women just wanted some basic rights, and if men have a problem with that, then maybe its the men who are doing the divide and conquer here

>why do we need women to work at all? wouldn't they prefer to keep house and look after the family?
maybe they want to better themselves in life instead of sitting at home like a loser?

>who benefits from women working? in the 50s/60s a family could be quite comfortable on just the mans salary, they could buy a house, take holidays etc. what changed, and cuo buono? who benefited?
I don't see the problem. women can have careers, be free, go travel the world and better themselves. what is the problem here?

>is working some noble thing now? or just some necessary thing done to survive, despite being boring and unpleasant?
it's called bettering yourself. men take careers to better themselves, so why shouldn't women?

>women just wanted some basic right
Women deserved them as much as kids

cuz they dont want equality, they want to dominate

Because it provides women with countless legal ways to screw men over and encourages doing so.

Feminism is all about making women into man-hating lesbians. No more needs to be said.

Women's liberation has destroyed the nuclear family, and women have been getting less and less happy ever since.

The people who practice feminism threw out the dictionary a long time ago.

>who says anyone is hating each other? where did you get this from?
you haven't seen the news lately? there are many militant feminists who spread hashtags like #killallmen, #allmenarerapists etc. if you watch videos on them you can see the anger.

>there's million of women and it only takes 9 months.
are you denying that women are waiting longer to have babies, not having as many babies, more women in the past never have babies.

our total fertility rates are below replacement levels of 2.11 children per woman. what is your opinion on the cause?

>maybe the men should do it
you don't think women are better with young children? when you fall over and skin your knee, do you go screaming for your mum or your dad?

>women just wanted some basic rights, and if men have a problem with that, then maybe its the men who are doing the divide and conquer here
you claim there is no divide and conquer, then say if there is it is men to blame. interesting, everything is always mens fault hmm?

theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/19/international-mens-day-women-sexist

>maybe they want to better themselves in life instead of sitting at home like a loser?
yeah, because work is FUN!! omg, you are such a moran. women had it so much better a few decades ago. sit around in a nice home, with wonderful children playing games and teaching them

>I don't see the problem. women can have careers, be free, go travel the world and better themselves. what is the problem here?
don't dodge the question, I asked you who benefits, and what changed. please answer

Because men and women are not equal.
The pretext for feminism is a delusion, and the women involved with it don't stop at equality.
They want men to submit and become the lesser gender of the two, a role-reversal if you will.
That's not gonna happen.

>tfw it already has

Because they don't generally follow the dictionary definition.

>he thinks women can't invent things
>he thinks that all men are somehow geniuses while women are all sheep

Duluth model.

That is all I am going to tell you, twat. Educate yourself.

>Educate yourself.
You sound like a feminist, i'm just saying

>Now tell me Sup Forums: why do you hate feminism?

Campaigns against fathers rights, for parental alienation, for murder via family courts, for murder via abortion, for inequality via 'positive discrimination' in politics and the workplace.
.

And after a lifetime observing 'liberated' women in families and the workplace and the misery, social chaos and economic damage, I assure you OP that all its underlying pretexts are false. ultimately there are two routes or a society infected with feminism

a)A tidal wave of family collapse, increased crime rates due to fatherless homes, increased drug abuse, increased suicide rates, increased prostitution ('right to be a slut'), collapse of traditional religion, collapse of morality, collapse of traditional economy farms, businesses, increased bureaucratic and unproductive jobs in larger business hr, marketing, diversity advocates, project management etc etc jobs or the girls), economic stagnation, commercialisation of child care(crèches etc), abortion, depopulation. Death, poverty, chaos.

b)Rejection of feminism

Maybe if they fucking believed in equality I would. I realized a long time ago however, that the only thing they care about. Is to have all the power and privilege that men have with NONE of the responsibility. Fuck them

>Are you a feminist? Do you believe in feminism?
Well not really, I wouldn't identify wit-
>The dictionary defines "feminism" as the belief that men and women should have equal rights an opportunities. Do you agree that they should?
Yes, I do, b-
>So you're a feminist then. Glad you're on board with literally killing all straight white men, erasing them from history, removing them from science, and giving all their jobs to undocumented POC women. Thanks for your support.

>strawmanning
Women are more stupid on average
Even though there are some smart women it's 1/5 compared to smart men
and I will not let the weak sex take care of serious things because some can as much as I would let niggers come in my country

Because egalitarianism isn't how nature functions. Evolution of both species and culture is by definition unequal

educationnews.org/k-12-schools/students-can-detect-teachers-gender-bias-boys-suffer-most/

>Recent research suggests that teachers tend to be tougher when grading the papers of students of the opposite gender – but that boys in particular suffer at the hands of female teachers.

You don't get it dude it's straight misandry designed to destroy boys. It sets them up for failure from the earliest ages they are attacked for being male. Redpill yourself didn't Glasgow do a longitudinal study on adverse outcomes for boys and discovered it was all correlated to female teacher bias.
>That by objective standards the boys were outperforming the girls handily
We need objective standards back in schools and we need women back in homes raising children.
>there is no greater economic force in the world than the white man. And yet the Jew and the feminist conspire to destroy him desu

why?

are you trying to say that workplaces are not in womans nature?

you haven't seen the news lately? there are many militant feminists who spread hashtags like #killallmen, #allmenarerapists etc. if you watch videos on them you can see the anger.
dude you're talking about radical feminists. not normal women or normal feminists

>are you denying that women are waiting longer to have babies, not having as many babies, more women in the past never have babies.
>our total fertility rates are below replacement levels of 2.11 children per woman. what is your opinion on the cause?
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they should just find themselves a houshusband then. maybe men should raise the kids at home
>you don't think women are better with young children? when you fall over and skin your knee, do you go screaming for your mum or your dad?
everyone is different, weather they're man or woman. not all women are fucking hivemind, and neither a men

>you claim there is no divide and conquer, then say if there is it is men to blame. interesting, everything is always mens fault hmm?
well the only people who seem to be against feminism are men. well just white men anyway.

>yeah, because work is FUN!! omg, you are such a moran. women had it so much better a few decades ago. sit around in a nice home, with wonderful children playing games and teaching them
so why do men work then if working is hard? why do they choose to have a mundane career? and how is it any different to a woman choosing a career in the same path?


>don't dodge the question, I asked you who benefits, and what changed. please answer
maybe it doesn't benefit your little fantasy of ''muh nationalismzz;'', but normal people don't give a fuck about nationalism and silly religious ''gender values''. and yes, working benefits the women herself who want to travel the world and spend shit on what she wants

I bet you hate seeing a woman in a business suit and high heels dont you? *-

>why do you hate feminism
It's just another face of gommunism

>not all women are fucking hivemind, and neither a men
Nice try white knight,women always judge others by following what their friends judge
Did you even tried to hook up ?

>muh evolution
Would you be okay with someone killing your children and taking your stuff?

Because men and women are not equal.

And as said, in practice it just fucks men over.

There's a based Dutch Calvinist party that wants to remove women's suffrage (one of the biggest mistakes the west ever made), because while men and women are of equal value before God, they are not equal. That is, they have specific duties to fulfill.

but YOU need more position in companies that involve doing nothing worthwhile and have maternity leave.

You need families eliminated, abortion, state control of infancy, drug addicted suicidal fatherless children taught to hate and devalue their fathers, you need higher crime, you need more prostitution, more promotion of people based on factors other than being the most apt candidate, you need the elimination of family businesses and farms, you need chaos dislocation and your grandchildren in abortion buckets.

you need all this. you need feminism.

>"The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race."
I feel like she's not picturing how that would go down correctly. Imagine being in a group with 99 other dudes and 900 women. Not just temporary, but for life. How little work the men would have to put into getting laid.

I suppose she'd believe the men would be doing hard labor, but we're talking about eight-hundred women with pretty much no hope for romance. If the males are kept in slave-like conditions, how hard would it really be to convince a female to unshackle you so you both can run away together?

holy fucking shit, and you think men don't follow trends and fasions either?

do you even realise that most retards in this world are men?

how do you feel knowing that there's women paying for these retard males to live?

(You) almost had me there, but then I realized that not even roasties are this retarded.

>I feel like she's not picturing how that would go down correctly. Imagine being in a group with 99 other dudes and 900 women. Not just temporary, but for life. How little work the men would have to put into getting laid.

however you will be doing this in an environment of criminality, prostitution, infanticide, no property rights, no freedom of expression, economic collapse, food supply collapse, barbarity and chaos.

>"Fem" comes from "Femenine"
So why is equality again?

Because they need to be in the kitchen making me a damn samwich

corporations benefit from doubling the size of the labor pool

nice argument

what is your opinion of islam, especially treatment of women in islamic nations. do you support importing more islam?

That isn't what 3rd wave feminism is about though is it, equality of opportunity isn't the same thing as equality of outcome & 3rd wave feminism wants the latter & then some.

>the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities

the definition is why i hate feminism

>do you even realise that most retards in this world are men?how do you feel knowing that there's women paying for these retard males to live?

No looking at divorce statistics it is men who transfer wealth to women who squander it abuse kids by separating them from the father, drive fathers to suicide by unequal closed family courts, raise suicidal kids who don't even know what sex they are or are in jail by 25. Raise daughters that view life as a giant brothel.


In the end the feminist experiment is already over. Its final act being the introduction of legalised infanticide on demand.

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Yet you faggots push this obvious bait to the front page.
Nice. Stay classy.

>Women are more stupid on average
We are the same on average, but the standard deviation is larger for men, meaning the extreme retards and extreme geniuses are usually men

Again, in the last half; Convince a chick that you'll love her forever if she helps you escape. Follow through or ditch her for someone else as her personality dictates, and go live in the forest hunting for food.

Not even getting into the argument of if a women-only society could function, because it's irrelevant. If either gender became 10-percent-population scarce, you would have members of the opposite gender bending over backwards to get a mate. And suddenly, the 10% gender people have a lot of power individually than any member from the 90%.

Its initial goal was to give women the same rights as men (i.e. to help women). Hence feminism.
Now they help women in a different way, but they get away with everything by riding on their former glory.

Because they act for everything BUT that, here's why


Funny, my captcha is "close zion"

Because modern-day feminism isn't about equality, it's about women wanting to live life on easy mode. Gotta make Google have more diversity quotas so I can get a six digit job immediately after graduation with my gender studies degree.

>you have discussion about a thing I dislike
>autistic screaching
Yeah, let's not duscuss anything

Women tend to vote and act with compassion being their highest virtue.

Politicians have capitalized on this and it has lead to terribly huge expansion of government, waste of money, Nanny states, forced equality which lowers standards. Most of all lower or non existent standards because standards aren't nice. This is just off the top of my head. Women's rights has been a nightmare for our once great republic.

>abuse kids by separating them from the father, drive fathers to suicide by unequal closed family courts
maybe the husband/father shouldn't of been such an arsehole in the first place
>Raise daughters that view life as a giant brothel.
why do you hate female sexual liberation? do you struggle getting women to sleep with you?

>Convince a chick that you'll love her forever if she helps you escape.

This is your best defence of a feminist future, complete collapse back to an animal state with the addendum of a virgin neets fantasy of getting laid?

You can already sleep with a prostitute for less than a days pay.

However with no families, morality, no family farms or businesses and inevitable collapse and mass poverty and infanticide. You'll have a lot more to worry about than fap fantasies.

There is a reason the roots of feminism were a subversion system to destroy nations.

Feminism was invented by MEN and its roots are MONEY interests
- Quackers in England, 17th century (I don't know why, but they were theologically egalitarian)
- Parisian bourgeois revolutionary clubs, with the first divorce law in 1792
- The New Republican Party created in 1854, later Lincoln's party ; big business interests
- jewish marxists litterature, social-democratic parties
- the CIA psy-ops

Liberalism relies on equal rights.
But to expand those equal rights, liberals and revolutionaries need to have you believe in "real equality".
Even though it doesn't exist.
Even though it looks silly and inharmonious.
Call it salami tactics. Or dialectics.

Archives arguably demonstrate that opponents to every feminist wave, in every country, were right for 160+ years.
But feminism won anyway.
Only the power of business interests on society can explain that.

Indeed, women's movement is an ideology that justifies the market's supremacy over all human beings - men and women.
Everything in society had to be transformed.

In the end, our world rests on a lie, that begets unhappiness, but at least, commerce is FREE!

Dictionary definition is never practiced.

feminism international sing is an inverted cross with a fist in red
Communists + statanist

Female "soldiers" are the absolute epitome of the absurdity of feminism. Gotta fight like the men but WADDYA MEAN I HAVE TO CARRY A PACK THAT WEIGHS OVER SIX KILOS THIS IS OPPRESSION. In Israel there's one brigade that accepts female soldiers for combat roles, after much pushing from feminists. all they've ever done is patrol the calmest stretch of the Egyptian border (a country we have a peace treaty with) and they've never been deployed for combat anywhere in any conflict. And yet the feminists don't seem to mind this. What they WANT is to be cool combat soldiers without actually having to do any fighting.

We have had actual feminism here for a 1000 years. The movement calling itself feminism today isn't about equal rights but dismantling social structures that have been deemed "oppressive" (all of them). It's the easily exploitable marxist oppressor/victim narrative being used to justify a revolution. It's a purely destructive movement, nothing productive about it.

and apparently Ayn Rand is a writter that empowers the right and sucks

that's jusy psycial crap. of course women are weaker than men

but why does this want you to raise a daughter with no ambition for a career?

That is not the dictionary definition. The dictionary definition of feminism is advocacy for women. In fact, you don't even need to refer to a dictionary to understand the meaning of feminism. Words aren't just made up sounds that are given meaning, we have roots that make up the words. Feminism clearly shows that it is female advocacy, and has nothing to do with equality. If females are oppressed in a society then yes, they would TECHNICALLY be advocating for equal rights, but that would only be because equal rights would be a by-product of the feminist plan to advocate women at all times, which would result ultimately in matriarchy.

Equal rights is an early step in the feminist agenda, not the ultimate goal.

>>abuse kids by separating them from the father, drive fathers to suicide by unequal closed family courtsmaybe the husband/father shouldn't of been such an arsehole in the first place

And there you have it. IT is up to a woman to judge what being an arsehole is. Of course this is never ever applied to women themselves who will even praise mutual infanticide and child abuse.

(You)>Raise daughters that view life as a giant brothel.why do you hate female sexual liberation? do you struggle getting women to sleep with you?

Sexual liberation? By the feminist definition rats fucking in a barrel is sexual liberation, the problem being a society like that also live like rats, eating their own young, producing nothing, spreading disease and living in squalor.

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Women generally are not earning as much as men because they generally don't do as good a job. And the fact that you see no problem in encouraging men to handicap themselves financially and productively in work for the sake of making women to feel stronger and more able than they are, which (doing a worse job and not pursuing one's goals out of "gender guilt") would lead to the decrease in overall production/effectiveness of a given industry or office or whatever and to economical fall, which would in turn impoverish the whole society, including women... well, that's very telling of how much of retarded cuck people can be.

>being a mother and producing many many children for future wars isn't a career