How did we lose? All my personal logic falls that Le Pen should have won. The terrorist attacks, the migrant crime, banking reform, rational trade agreements.
You Macronites... explain to me why Le Pen failed so hard. & Don't give me a short meme answer, keep memery down to a 49%. I want an actual answer.
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She didn't propose any good alternatives, she just talked shit and said she'd have some miraculous solution that solves everything.
After Trump, people aren't so ready to fall for that bullshit line again.
This. Trump killed everything even remotely nationalist with his insane levels of incompetence. Fucking faggot. Trump truly is literally Hitler.
Because the populism spike crested
Right wing populism is always short term, this time it only lasted like a year and a half, it died in the Netherlands and now in France.
Don't worry in another 80 years there will be another populism spike and you can try to make up ground then, right now just sit back and enjoy the EU not breaking up.
But the UK is breaking up so scotland and Northern Ireland can rejoin the EU.
RIP populism
France will serve as an example when the caliphate is established. Europe will either change her ways, or die.
It was all just a meme to destroy the anglosphere
The gullible retards fell for it
Sup Forums exaggerated how bad the situation with Muslims is in France.
>not French
>thinks all politics and cultures work the same as America
Stop worrying about other countries you fucking cringelord faggot
Cont... don't get me wrong, it's bad, but it's not "vote for a right-wing populist" bad.
They said the same thing after Brexit and Trump still won
Don't you know your history? France ALWAYS cucks. You can always rely on them to bend over.
> This much damage control
This is what always happens to Americans here. They think that Europe is on fire but instead muslims are pretty much a minor nuisance on the grander scale, for now at least...
>How did we lose?
It's fucking france, son.
"Cheese eating surrender monkeys."
They don't deserve freedom.
If you were living in france you should have known that literaly everyone except the FN were against her 35% is a good score with all this oposition
France abandoned God, as did Sup Forums.
He is simply punishing it.
While there is still time, turn to the Lord. Though the world may burn around you, you will have peace, and be granted a place in eternity with our God in Heaven.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
>minure nuisance
>literally a terror attack every month
o-ok
Because we are not savage, we are educated.
Unfortunately it was easier do do a brexit, it had no party, it was easier to elect Trump he was the republican candidate but Le Pen is unfortunately getting a lot of malus, her party has the worst reputation of the western world, nd since the 70' it became cultural to hate it. I still voted for her but propaganda worked to well. But there's still hope, he can lose his majority next month. But now, let me introduce you the president I recognize
maybe stop using other countries as proxy for you domestic problems and actually look into the politics there next time
oh, and cut the conspiracy crap. makes you look like niggers
You forced the meme, you never force the meme. It must happen naturally. For these transgressions, Sup Forums shall receive divine punishment. Your feeble attempts at meme magic shall twist and contort in response to you until you realize the ways in which you disrespected the meme.
wtf is this picture?
Why are half of the signs in english?
Why is it Sarkozy? It seems like they have ISIS symbol, while ISIS did not exist in 2012 or barely did
Looks fake
Yeppp
In a fight or flight situation, historically in modern times US and Britain have always been fighters and are often themselves the aggressor.
France was so cucked that they lost half of their country to Hitler before crying to the allies for help, causing the deaths of hundreds of thousands of troops due to their cuckery so there you have it.
Not to mention French women are slutty as fuck and voted for whoever they would rather open their legs for than with their cum filled skulls.
>All my personal logic falls that Le Pen should have won. The terrorist attacks, the migrant crime, banking reform, rational trade agreements.
Maybe your personal logic is too detached from what's real and maybe you look at imageboards too much and at your fellow French too little.
Saying the country that still exist because of france help to be independant
160 dead French in a year wasn't enough I guess..
Rigged elections.
The Front National wasn't as vigilant as Trump and the Republican Party.
Terror attacks don't really involve that many people. 100 people died in Bataclan, they have maybe 1000 close relatives. Thats's like 0.0015 % of French people involved in a terrorist attack.
Because both the french electoral system* and the french voter as a rule fucking despise populism.
And then there's of course all the small things, like Le Pen Sr. being himself or Marine trying to go full Trump during the debate when french vters actually expect you to present a detailed program and talk numbers. (Like, holy shit, even the majority of FN members agree that she utterly fucked up the debate and lost by a mile.)
*Turns out old de Gaulle knew a thing or two about fasist and communist election tactics and how to set up a system designed to cut the legs out from under most of their normal tricks. He must be laughing from beyond the grave at getting another kick in against the spiritual successors of the Vichy regime.
Yes, correct. Thos casualties are a minute percentage of incidents and most regions don't get to deal with muslims too. It's also important to remember that the non-far right wing is also still combating terrorism, albeit less effectively.
>How did we lose?
what do you me by "WE" . we couldnt even vote in the election. your not a citizen of france. how are you attached to the situation?
WE won in america because those nigger faggots in other countries dont have a say in our election. that and canadian faggots got thrown in jail for trying to vote in our election. few thousand waiting for a trial in our prison system right now.
i want to say le weed man demanded we give them back but repeat offenders didnt get released in most states and in 1 election you can be a repeat offender thanks to not all states voting on the same day
BECAUSE MARINE LEPEN IS RETARDED AND NEED TO FUCKING GO . WE DESERVE A BETTER FAR RIGHT LEADER
Add 60 in Niece, put that within 365 days, x2 with the new influx of Muslims, how long until native French die out?
Maybe 1000 years at this pace.
The problem with european alt-right is that they are anti-EU. This worked for the UK, but it does not work for european countries that have already adopted the euro. The European Union is good and "globalism" is the word you use to hide your stupidity.
Instead of trying to fight the EU, you should have tried to consolidate and USE the EU to project your wishes. Instead of dreaming about quitting the EU to stop muslims from entering, why not propose a federal border and stop muslims for ALL european contries. Instead of quitting the €, propose new economic rules to govern the Euro. For every nationalistic proposal, imagine a EU-nationalistic one. That would attract many people, it would create an european-wide alt-right movement that people don't have a reason to dislike.
Because French people are a bunch of fucking wankers
It would require a huge amount of meme energy. Most people don't even know who represents them at the EU.
This her affiliation with her father keeps all the dumb leftist to think she is fascist when her program was more democratic than the macron one
This, changing your entire currency is pretty radical decision and can go terribly wrong. People don't want to take that kind of risks for very little to gain.
normies believe the television.
Merkel never sold weapons to Saudi Arabia.
Trump expanded weapon sales to Saudi Arabia.
Still looking for an explanation why no one likes far-right candidates anymore?
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Talking about leaving the Euro was way too radical. The Euro is a positive for France and Germany.
Because you dumbfucks know NOTHING of French politics
Le Pen carried on the name of her father, who was a fullblown fascist
Meanwhile Macron was NEW. He was a nobody 5 years ago, nobody knew about the guy. One day he joins the presidential election, builds his own party and overtakes the popular vote instantly. For Frenchies, both Macron and Le Pen represented change, but Macron was a centrist, while Le Pen is far right. The choice was obvious.
The EU is an oligarchy, you can't change it democratically faggot. And the Euro is a disaster.
The question was not if she was going to win or not but how she was going to loose.
Le Pen did not make more than 40% because performed bad in the 2nd part of her campain.
Getting at the second part of the election was already a big step desu. Reminder that the system/medias are against her.
In a way she won by becoming the head of the opposition.
She never expected to win that election but with the shitstorm incoming the next one is almost guarantee.
KEK was never wrong: Le Pen WILL win.
Making 27 country moving to your side and having none that reject it because doesnt benefits them is almost impossible for the case of the eu so we almost cannot change things in the eu and if we did it doesnt have high chance to benefit us
It is time for the rest of the French white men to come to the new world to help bolster defenses here. All white men need to leave France and come to Quebec and Louisiana and let France become the Islamic kill machine to fix the Atheism that got them into this mess.
because /our/ candidate is a woman
You didn't beat the crap out of the cucks, they need to be checked from time to time or else stuff like this happens.
Bravo, France
Why not change the EU to more of a free trade area with little to no actual power.
Because basing your entire political opinion on not wanting sand niggers in your country because 5 of them happend to be fucking crazy is not a logical approach
Macron cheated.
>terrorist attacks
The death toll is so low it's not even worth worrying about. If terrorists can't up their game, I'm not giving up on more valuable things.
>migrant crime
I've heard conflicting things, so I don't know what to believe. Personally I've never even seen a single migrant, so as far as I'm concerned, it's not a problem.
Those issues were the core of her arguments, and they were non-issues for most of the voters. That's why she lost.
>Not wanting to pay jizya and have your daughters raped is a bad thing.
It's called the European Free Trade Association, and its separate to the EU.
Extremely well said
lol 5 of them?
You mean 5 out of every 6?
Cuckery at this level isn't factorable. Cucks like being cucks. France likes bein cucked.
>he thinks islam is the only religion with rampant pedophilia
The vatican is literally populated entirely by pedos
Le Pen losing is going to trigger the race. It will probably start within a year or so. Maybe in the next 2 years. If Le Pen had won it would maybe be put off by a couple more years.
All this has done is push habbenings forward.
I hope a lot of you amphibs die in upcoming purge.
You fucking deserve it.
>In a way she won by becoming the head of the opposition.
Haha, nope. After the disaster tonight, the FN are heading straight for civil war. The old guard never forgave Marine kicking out Daddy Dearest and now they're smelling blood.
>Macron was a centrist, while Le Pen is far right.
LMFAO.
Yeah, I know those are the "official" designations, but holy shit Macron is so far left it is not funny. Le Pen is very slightly leaning right, she is not even economically conservative. She is only nationalist, that's her only real right leaning stance.
We arent democrats or antifa
How many terror attacks?
WE WON
(You) LOST
Let that sink in for a while.
Nope. You're fascists. You make democrats and antifa look positively harmless and sedate when it comes to internal power struggles.
LePen was a forced meme.
Don't force memes.
>having the same argument as every leftist in france that only hear the media
En taro adun executor. Now is not the time to get depressed. The reason she lost had everything to do with everybody calling her a far right extremest. France usually leans left with her politics so its no surprise she lost. But the question you ask should not be why she lost but what can we do to improve. Maybe donate money to the next campaign you support if possible or maybe fly over and see if you can do some ground work for their campaign.
I've been to France mutltiple times, from the beautiful outskirts to the Ugly as fuck inlands.
It is that bad.
Ive been on a School exchange to one of the Suburbs of Paris. The entire youth was complete Garbage, Students starting violent shit with Teachers, attacking people.
Mind you that was 4-5 years ago. Paris was already far from the romantic city we all imagine, it already had soldiers guarding the national Monuments to keep all the gypsies from fucking up the place.
I dont even want to imagine what it is like today.
But obviously, they want it. Socialist policies didnt work? Aight, lets have more socialist policies, more of the Same, just like in the EU, maybe itll work that way.
No, I think you just dont know HOW bad it is.
yea those 800 million muslims all want to go on jihad in america and europe. Please inform yourself a little bit about the world. The middle east is FUCKED due to the US and they are not getting better becase the US and russia keep installing crazy dictators. Crime is related to socialeconomical factors. Thinking muhammed wrote a book for an angel does not.
Why does everyone ignore what france did in ww1
Their millitary situation in ww2 wasn't due to that "Hurd ur surrender monkeys" but that they lost the stomach to fight after horrifying casualties in ww1
That's because they are still only a minority group. They are dominating violent crimes, rapes despite being less than 10% and there's a terror attack being foiled every week with an actual attack occurring every 3 weeks.
What the fuck do you think's going to happen to those statistics with ethnic natives having low birthrates and leaving the country at the highest rates ever plus year over year over year mass importation of millions of migrants as well as their incredible birthrates because they are marrying cousins 1-5 not only for cultural reasons but they have economic incentive to do so for more gibs)?
It's going to be too late to turn this around when you try again in 5 years. He's already going to naturalize all the migrants coming in as citizens and they're going to keep voting for these globalist parties that continually appease them. So you've just paved the way for unconditional support for these kikes.
RIP EU lmfao at least we get to Deus Vult.
>we lost
>RIGGGED!
>we don't need to reflect on why we lost, because it was all rigged anyway!
Jesus Christ mate, don't go full retard on me here.
>2007 figures say France is 5-10% muslim
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Yeah, it's just an exaggeration.
>the European Union is good
This is an opportunity. When life gives you lemons, you make lemonade, it's a business opportunity.
I think the thing to do, now, is what Hitler did in Austria. The French need to take over the beer halls, the churches, wherever there are kindred spirits.
Take advantage of the EU's framework and smuggle in firearms and other equipment.
Do NOT use cell phones or computers to communicate, establish a relay system for coded messages, and take over the rural countryside, first. Work together to build new things for your communities, BUILD homes, playgrounds, aid the elderly, engender positive goodwill towards the nationalist movement, and swell the ranks with new recruits.
We know how to do this, we need but only remember how.
How cute, he thinks his country has equal say as Germany.
I think it's close to your naptime isn't it? Just sit back and let the big countries try to win back your freedom for you.
you really can't exaggerate how bad it is in France. Got family over there and recently one of their partners was raped in a school by a teenage muslim boy.
> Arabic music
Well no one claimed Macron was subtle.
She was woman parroting her Father platform.
This was Hitler v.s. Hindenburg
Im poc and I can see the storm comiing...
we are the little girl hearing voices
seldom do the french avoid chaotic upheavel.
give it time
The nature of French people is to surrender, not fight back. What did you expect?
...
Hillary :
>shitton of internet hype
>loses
Lepen :
>shitton of internet hype
>loses
is it that hard to grasp ? Foreigners can't vote for our country, 200 000 000 americans shilling for lepen are pointless if they can't vote
(You) frogs did the right thing today. (You) made Sup Forums cry.
>Libertarians imitating Fascist
An incredibly amusing concept.
I assume the world is going to end soon and France will not be saved because they have rejected God and embraced communism and Islam. I imagine keeping them in the Euro so they can starve when it collapses all around them is part of the plan.
No matter what she tried she could not break her party away from her Fathers Nazi legacy, maybe if she had renamed she would have been able to win over some more voters but too many un-decided voters could not bring themselves to vote for the NF
>Hanz don't disrespect the man who saved Europe from speaking Russian and being Communist Trump is a Jew shill and will do nothing for the people of our nation at least Hitler tried at least he tried....
Macron is a strong leader who will lead France forward without caving to primitive emotions like hatred and nativism.
>The terrorist attacks, the migrant crime, banking reform, rational trade agreements.
because your logic failed here. The people of Europe dont see this as a bad thing
Except it is worse, have you ever even been to france? It's a shitehole
>he really thinks Scotland and NI can leave.
To quote the rev Ian Paisley 'NEVER. NEVER. NEVER.'
>Obviously haven't seen the homeless niggers on the streets of paris or the trucks of peace every month fucking idiots
What timeline are we in
No likes fucking Nazis but Sup Forums autists like you.
The rest of know that while diversity is difficult, fascism is hell on Earth. You know the Nazis had two stations? How the fuck does that square with Western freedoms you stupid twat?
Fuck you're dumb.
>HURR DURR WHY LE PENIS LOSE?
Anyone who was following the election could see why Brexit and Trump won and why Le Pen lost.
The fact here is that FN is a socialistic nationalist party. So they appeal to nationalists, generally. Le Pen COULD have painted Macron as a rightist who will cut benefits and shit- but it probably wouldn't have helped.
Just look at the 2002 election- Western France, the Bretons and shit, still voted for Chirac and the right-wing against Le Pen. French socialists would rather see all their jobs outsourced and benefits privatized than vote for a RACIST FASCIST NAZI.
Marine did better than her father and Macron is going to be an utter failure of a president, FN will gain more seats in the next regional and legislative elections and so on. But the fact is things aren't bad enough in France yet for Le Pen to win, the economy isn't shit enough and there aren't enough shitskins yet.