Humans will never overcome racial, political, and religious tensions in order to function as a cohesive global species

>Humans will never overcome racial, political, and religious tensions in order to function as a cohesive global species
>We will never form a world government and pool our collective resources and knowledge in order to further our species
>We will never use our collective skills and knowledge to overcome disease, hunger, poverty, environmental crisis, etc.
>We will never experience a technological and cultural boom hundreds of times better than any other we've had in our history
>We will never explore the last edges of our planet, or expand into permanently settled space stations, moon, or Mars colonies
>We will never become an interstellar species and get to bone sexy alien chicks
>We will never develop technology so rapidly that we outpace our biological evolution, facilitating the need for artificial modification
>We will never transcend mortality, learning to upload our consciousness onto quantum computers
>We will never create artificially intelligent and evolving simulations, re-creating the beginning of the universe and watching it expand and grow, essentially becoming Gods
>We will never exist until the collapse of our own Universe, and discover if we too are a simulation created by a hyper-evolved species of human, who created us to see if it's simulation could survive and thrive like it did

We fucked up, guys.

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>we will never live in a Utopia

no shit faggot.

now kys

i believe this too. aliens need to wipe us out and start over with a higher average IQ. or the problem will work itself out when all the smart people move to mars on elon musks thing, earth gets blown up and then those smart people continue the human race

>>We will never form a world government and pool our collective resources and knowledge in order to further our species

Fucking delusional as fuck if this is what you actually think globalists are trying to a accomplish with a one world government.

Why the fuck would I want to be in a polity filled with low IQ borderline retards? Africa is separate for a reason.

Why are you so intent on killing off the human race, user?

Here's an even better idea that's a lot closer to human nature we kill all the third worlders take their resources and use it for asteroid harvesting and space exploration

I want to drop that colony on Sydney Australia

Gloabalists are the ones who want to do that

The whites and East Asians are ready. The abos, spicks, niggers, and towelheads are holding us back.

You conveniently leave out the vast genocides that would have to occur for this to even have chance of happening

also leaf

I don't care after i die

Burn in hell.

Certainly Humanity is not going to prosper or even survive with a defeatist attitude.

I think humanity can be saved and can expand into the space, but will have to realize sooner o later that a culling needs to be made, most of the machinery for that is already in place, what if fucking us up is the greed of the ones who control the killing machine.

>hurr durr globalism means the whole world comes together we need each other to make the dream work
Globalism is just a euphemism for (((God's chosen people))) to fuck everyone globally, not just pre-war Germany

Mo monies fo dem progremz, and shit, yo.

Racial, political, and racial tensions are what maintain natural selection and competition, without it we would lose our collective edge and regress into the Garbage Age, just an overpopulated planet filled with people wallowing in filth and detritus with no culture or direction.

fuck off leaf

We could have all of these things if Europeans and European Americans would stop playing nanny to the rest of the globe. We worry about ourselves and turning our people into a space faring race. Everyone else can just be left to their own devices.

The true redpill is that humanity will not survive, unless you consider the monkeys still swinging around in African forests "surviving". Humanity will diverge, with the smartest becoming a new species.

It may turn out that, much like mammals and apes were precursors to humans, humans are precursors to hybrid human/silicon neural nets/brain-machine interfaces. The moment that happens, genetic engineering will explode, and selective pressures will rapidly diverge.

I'd bet most of this takes place on another planet or in space. The reason I think it will happen is that there's nothing to prevent it.

This reminds me of me at 14. Not sure if faggot is larping or not. Here's your (((you)))

Our replacement will be the machines, artificial beings who will take over like a father passing the torch to his son, then legends will be made about us.

However to even reach that point, humanity requires to trim the fat from the species.

>global species
so what?

who do you think you are to presume I would care to live my life in some kind of synchrony with you?

Globalists get fucked.

i dont get this machine meme
you are talking about like in 1000 years right?

China will finish what the white man started

Whites need to grow up of their current awkward phase or else the chinks/gooks will take over as the best of the class in both regards.

LMFAO I LOVE BASED LAURA SOUTHERN I LOVE HOW SHE READS Sup Forums AND POSTS WHAT I READ TO PLACES THAT ARE NOT WHERE I READ THEM

THE MORE THE MERRIER WE NEED TO REDPILL ALL THE NORMIES WITH BASED TRANNY AND NIGGER CUM AND KEK WILLS IT

nupol making fun of nupol doesn't help

> you are talking about like in 1000 years right?

Self-driving cars are driving around California cities RIGHT NOW. They use massive neural nets and extremely accurate sensors.

There are people doing brain/machine interfaces RIGHT NOW. The idea is to each brains how to drive things much faster than these meat sticks we call fingers and these shitty limited webcams we call eyes. There appear to be ways to get information in and out much quicker.

I'm talking 100 years max. If a bunch of top 1 percentile brains wire up to massive neural nets with high speed interfaces and start genetically engineering their offspring, the genetic arms race will have been won by these new super humans.

Do you see how this could happen?

hahahahaha holy shit. That's the best laugh i've had on this site.

>>We will never use our collective skills and knowledge to overcome disease, hunger, poverty, environmental crisis, etc.
Ok, so you are talking about an INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNed future here. What happened to evolution?
>>We will never explore the last edges of our planet, or expand into permanently settled space stations, moon, or Mars colonies
Wasn't expansion of the past related to competion for resources? If we live in a post-sarcity society, there is no need to expand anywere.

>>We will never transcend mortality, learning to upload our consciousness onto quantum computers
That is a fucking huge red flag that the elite want to push

...

pretty much my life already desu

Toasting that feel.

You're right, but we still have to try.

Shut up and do the impossible!

>>We will never form a world government
GOOD! Who the fuck would think a one World government is okay?

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>greentext

shutup faggot

Not saying it's a great thing, but I don't see anyone giving me any reasons it's not going to happen. In fact, all signs point toward HAPPENING, at least eventually.

Also, philosophically, didn't the age of humans pretty much destroy the age of monkeys/primates? And do we care? Worse even, we fucking lock them in glass cages and have our offspring mock them.

Another question is: when has there ever been a true post-hierarchy state? I'm not really aware of one. The least I could say is that it appears to be extremely rare in practice. So why would yet another technological advancement (the same advancement that resulted in us being here, debating on a Kazahk yak washing board) suddenly result in it?

>We will never
What makes you so sure?

WARNING! Carry on reading! Or you will die, even if you only looked at the word warning! Once there was a little girl called Clarissa, she was ten-years-old and she lived in a mental hospital, because she killed her mom and her dad. She got so bad she went to kill all the staff in the hospital so the -government decided that best idea was to get rid of her so they set up a special room to kill her, as humane as possible but it went wrong the machine they were using went wrong. And she sat there in agony for hours until she died. Now every week on the day of her death she returns to the person that reads this letter, on a monday night at 12:00a.m. She creeps into your room and kills you slowly, by cutting you and watching you bleed to death. Now post this in another thread, and she will haunt someone else who doesn't.

This isn't fake. apparently, if u copy and paste this to three threadsin the next ten minutes u will have the best ay of ur life tomorrow. u will either get kissed or asked out, if u break this chain u will see a little dead girl in your room tonight. in 57 mins someone will say i love you or I'm sorry

,>huemans
>leaf

nah i dont think so, everything medical related right now is shit compared with our organic body

for now i only see it as a meme

>Who the fuck would think a one World government is okay?
This. Fuck, not even the EU or UN can function properly. How the hell is a global world government going to work?

I don't want to live in a world where i'm completely dependant on the state to live

I'm a human, not a cog in your machine

>In fact, all signs point toward HAPPENING
What signs are you talking about? Like the star of IBM or something?
>Also, philosophically, didn't the age of humans pretty much destroy the age of monkeys/primates?
I would say no. There are still primates/monkeys on mutliple continents.
> Worse even, we fucking lock them in glass cages and have our offspring mock them.
This is a moral argument. What I want to know is why you believe this 'god'-AI would share your morality?

> for now i only see it as a meme

For now it is, but self-driving cars were a meme 10 years ago.

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>The delusional autists in this thread thinking that we will keep developing technology when we have maybe 50 years of oil left
>Not realizing that humans are smart but are not at all wise
>Not realizing that all this technological progress will be for nothing because we used most of our resources for comfort and easy access for a few generations

Honestly, we deserve what is coming to us. We have eradicated almost all life off this planet with no end in sight, and it amuses me in a cosmological sense that we think we are so smart, had all the potential, and we still won't make it off this rock we call Earth in any meaningful sense. If only we had learned long ago that intelligence is nothing without wisdom, we would likely be on a different path.

Hope all you faggots will enjoy the decline as much as I will. It's been good times, really. But the good times don't last forever, and when the power finally does go out, there aren't enough resources left on the planet to spur another industrial revolution, and thank God for that. Humans were a mistake.

It's not terribly hard to understand. If a great human intelligence (or intelligences), paired with a great artificial intelligence (or intelligences), were to use their power for genetic engineering to increase the IQ of offspring, it might set off a new arms race.

Or, if a specific set of humans were to master human/computer interfacing, and were to adapt such technology at birth, it could mean that practically speaking, these humans outperform all previous humans. The key is the feedback loop, the same feedback loop that resulted in us arising out of monkeys/abbos.

> I would say no. There are still primates/monkeys on mutliple continents.

When something is the "Age of X" it means that X is in charge, at the top of the food chain, or dominant, more or less. The mere fact that monkeys still exist does not mean that they aren't living at our whim, within our age.

> What I want to know is why you believe this 'god'-AI would share your morality?

I make no such argument. I'm just pointing out the horror (from our current perspective) if WE were the ones locked in cages by our new evolutionarily-divergent overlords (in the new age of X, where X is whatever is beyond you and I).

We already lock ourselves in cages due to bad behavior.

If our evolutionary half biological half mechanic has a meaning of "humanity" they will lock us in reservations, or use us as pets due to our charming nature, as seen on tribal nigs who like to dance and smile a lot.

>When something is the "Age of X"
Humans are apes. It is the age of the apes
>if WE were the ones locked in cages by our new evolutionarily-divergent overlords
You are not talking about pure evolution any more. You are talking about humans using the intelligence to design a new future.

Check out how hard I can pee

> You are not talking about pure evolution any more.

Distinction without a difference. Does conscious evolution differ from unconscious evolution in any meaningful way?

> Humans are apes. It is the age of the apes

This is the opposite, you making no distinction yet having a HUGE difference. Sure, yeah, OK, humans are apes, sure. But we all know humans aren't-- they're beyond mere apes. How far beyond may be debatable, but for example, normal orangutans cannot design computer networks that span the earth and allow for real time communications. Bonobos cannot create satellites that correct for relativistic timing imperfections and beam triangulation data to everywhere on Earth to be used for real-time location mapping (GPS).

> We already lock ourselves in cages due to bad behavior.

Perhaps your country's problem is that all of you savages aren't locked up in cages.

>thinking oil is the only energy source

Being this mentally disabled shouldn't be legal

>Does conscious evolution differ from unconscious evolution in any meaningful way?
Yes. You are no longer allowing nature to run its course, rather forcing your course on nature. They are literal opposites of one another.
>his is the opposite, you making no distinction yet having a HUGE difference.
Genetically, humans are members of the great ape family. It is the literal age of the greatest apes right now.

> Believing we need Socialism and the NWO to reach the stars
> Implying we wouldn't already own a planet per family if we had a free society

Nigger reverse the indoctrination, keep fiction, fiction and don't let that shit bleed into politics and blind you.

In my country savages are breed by the powerful in order to artificially keep themselves in power, same with the Dems do with niggers with health care and welfare.

We are what you're heading into if you keep your political class unchecked, doing whatever they feel like and pat themselves in the back after fragmenting your society.

> Yes. You are no longer allowing nature to run its course, rather forcing your course on nature. They are literal opposites of one another.

Everything is nature, including humans. Why do you think humans are apart from nature? We are a product of nature. We are nature embodied, we are what nature created.

> Genetically, humans are members of the great ape family. It is the literal age of the greatest apes right now.

You're being disingenuous. When it is convenient for you, you lump humans and apes together. Yet like above, you separate them at will (monkeys: nature's course, humans: forcing your course on nature).

Can non-human apes do anything humans can do? Anything?

Humans can easily live among apes (weapons + organization + security) were we to want to. Apes cannot survive amongst humans (unless at the mercy of humans) because they cannot use abstract thinking (money, etc), cannot use language (as humans define language), and do not have a highly adapted moral code (i.e., don't take something without paying for it).

To say that the current age is anything but the age of humans is to be disingenuous. All other apes (and probably all other animals) are irrelevant. None could change the course of history even if they had the mental capacity to try.

I miss space elevator threads

>we are what nature created.
I thought humans evolved from enviromental pressure? Also you argued that humans are apart from apes. So you seem to believe humans aren't a part of nature unless it fits you agenda. I'm only using your logic in my arguments. I have no dog in this fight.
>Anything?
Yes. All apes eat and sleep and shit and piss and some like chimp use tools.
>Apes cannot survive amongst humans
Then explain the monkeys surviving among humans in India and the South American Jungles?
>o say that the current age is anything but the age of humans is to be disingenuous. All other apes (and probably all other animals) are irrelevant.
There you go seperating humans from apes again. Another denial of the nature of genetics.
> None could change the course of history even if they had the mental capacity to try.
Except humans right. They are better than anything ever.

Fuck being one. The industrial nations will do all the great things you listed and leave the rest of the planet behind

>time for your autism meds.

we're just as petty, tribalistic, and superstitious as all other himinids/primates, we're just better at lying to ourselves about it

>Implying that becoming a homogenous mass of people with one government didn't fuck the Chinese up

literally only 5 races are needed for scientific/mathematical/medical advancement, arabs/jews/indians/whites/east asians, the rest are useless. Also we got this far without needing to become a single culture/government/people so its hard to say how advanced we'll be if we were all united. This is also globalist propaganda btw but it is kinda nice to wonder how advanced we'll be if we were all on the same page

To be honest I think if we weren't actively trying to kill each other we would have never gotten past the stone age.

Think about it, chimps are smarter than pretty much everything in their enviroment and can survive pretty damn well the way they are. They'd need to compete against other chimps to have any reason to select for increased intellegence or social complexity

Humans are apart from apes in their capacity. Is this a controversial statement?

You're mistaken that I believe humans aren't a part of nature. They most certainly are.

If you can summarize what you're affirmatively arguing, I'd appreciate it. To me it seems like you are one of those people that tries to find some kind of flimsy fault in everything somebody says.

In my replies at the top, I've clearly stated what I'm arguing for (possibility/likelihood of a runaway conscious evolution that creates whatever is next after humans) and why (technological innovations in use or being tested today, innovation in brain/machine connections, and rapid improvement of large neural networks).

>To be honest I think if we weren't actively trying to kill each other we would have never gotten past the stone age.
i think we're getting past this but competition never dies, in the automated world however i'd like to see how competition changes

>implying aliens have overcome any of this shit
>implying there are aliens
>implying being a cohesive global species means literally anything for anybody
>implying spending trillions of dollars to shoot metal into space shouldn't be stopped immediately to pay off global debt in a few years

>possibility/likelihood of a runaway conscious evolution that creates whatever is next after humans
I've pointed it out already. You're no longer talking about natural selection. You're talking about a future that's been intelligently designed. It seems like you are advocating the extermination of humans as an animal species into a technological species on the basis that this new species will be better, when 'better' is most certainly a subjective concept. There is no such thing as 'more evolved'. You sound like a creationist in church in some ways. That's all I'm trying to point out.

> Arabs
No
> Jews
Not worth it!

Do you know a lot about chimps?

Because they are the only animal other than humans known to conduct warfare. That is, they aren't just hunting one another for meat, nor for pure expressions of territoriality (which would result in more posturing than actual violence). They form raiding parties to isolate out rival chimps and tear them limb from limb. After they deplete the enemy numbers enough through attrition, they attack the main group, kill the males, and capture the females. It's unspeakably brutal, but also insidiously clever. The level of social coordination is unmatched in any other non human animal. And what do they do with it?

They genocide each other.

You have a mistaken view of natural selection. Natural selection is really simply whatever is. It doesn't matter if it is "intelligently designed" (given there are infinite gradations in intelligence), or random dumb luck.

I am not advocating anything actually, I'm simply observing what I believe is likely to happen, based on evidence that is all around us.

There is really no such thing as 'better', unless you define 'better' in a strict sense to mean "has increased agency in the universe". I would make the case that beings that have increased agency (e.g., space-fairing beings with high intelligences) are more evolved than beings with lower agency (e.g., housecats or abbos or tanned Germans).

So I suppose we disagree on definitions. Also, are you a woman?

Spare us your Whig history belief in progress and goodness. You can no more move past human nature than to move past human cells. War will always be a part of us, because the animals from which we evolved invented war.

Besides, war is good! War ended the holocaust. War stopped Genghis Khan. War build the Roman Empire. Without war, the entire world would be ruled by Muslims.

> Arabs

Haven't done shit since the 1000's, they can die too

> Jews

More trouble than they're worth

> Indians

Only if they can POO IN LOO

Nope on the woman. You're observations are opinions as well. Especially the opinion that this will occur in 100 years as you stated above. It reminds me of the automation arguments marxist/communists have been make for 140+ years now. The definition of the good/better/best concept is subjective. What is better in your unique point of view as an individual could be drastically different from my definition of better from my unique point of view as individual.
I do have a question:
If some humans don't want to get on board with this blending of biology and technology, what happens to them?

BS. Competition is a key component of innovation. We're better off staying in our separate groups and competing on the world stage for domonance.
Nation y Nation.

>implying spending trillions of dollars to shoot metal into space
wew lad

I suggest you go look at the actual global budget for space-related shit

It is quite substantially lower than a trillion. It goes nowhere near a trillion. It is a tiny budget. Also
>pay off global debt
>implying you have any idea why the debt exists in the first place or how our broken economic system functions

Not with that attitude you pussy leftist.

> implying the iss isn't the single most expensive anything ever made by mankind

We already do this anyway. Competition is good. We are going to be immortal in less than 100 years. No joke.

jews make progress in an array of scientific fields God knows where we'd be if the Jews haven't contributed as much as they have. Arabs however are making individual contributions to science and medicine

Can you imagine Indian manned space flight? What are they going to do, being an entire street up there with them?

I'm not a fag who likes to call things Reddit but this post is really fucking Reddit.

> Toasting that feel
> forcing your course on nature
> Then explain the monkeys surviving among humans
> Except humans right. They are better than anything ever.
> It seems like you are advocating the extermination of humans
> There is no such thing as 'more evolved'
> You sound like a creationist in church in some ways
> That's all I'm trying to point out
> You're observations are opinions as well

You do sound like a woman, unfortunately.

> If some humans don't want to get on board with this blending of biology and technology, what happens to them?

What kind of idiotic question is this? Nothing. They simply become the monkeys/gorillas/orangutans of the next age. They don't as much lose agency as much as a new group discovers that they can leverage more agency and can do whatever they want.

The Jew will sabotage any effort you make with his Jewry. Remember Ethel and Julius (((Rosenberg)))? They helped build the bomb, but then they gave it to the reds. You can't trust (((them))).

As for the Arabs, they are descendents of apes and pigs. Too stupid to bother with.

About $150 billion over 15 years. $10 billion a year.

Now look at the welfare budget or the military budget. It's a drop in the ocean.

Humans will never do this shit. Transhumans may.

Nope. They took the wrong path long time ago.

But hey. Atleast we got subsaharan refugees and kebab.

Stop paying welfare, idgaf. But it's wrong to consider the military budget as just one thing. Anyway, America pays most of the world's security budget, so I don't want to hear it out of you.

Not an argument

fuck off faggot, whites and asians have the only chance to get to space and evolving to humans 2.0

We always tried to accomodate and integrate the others in our society, but we were met with disdain and hatred.
Funds for science are funneled into affirmative action and pop """"science""""", that is making mental gymanstics in attempt to say that there are more than two genders

Give me a call when Tyrone, Laquisha and Mohammed will wake up one day from their mud huts and crackhouses and start developing synthetic augumentations, gene editing and interstellarz spacee, nigguuuuh

Don't need to argue.You're ausfailian.

It was German science that put us on the moon. Too bad you couldn't do it for yourselves and ESA is a failure.

>he thinks it's as simple as forming a one world government
You are a child

You sound like you live in a dream augmented reality; an idealist if you will
I live in a reality augmented by dream and nightmares; a pragamist if you will
>if something seems too good to be true then it probably is
This leaves me skeptical
Rhetorical questions:
Do you really believe that what you describe as advanced technology will passed out to the masses for free?
Do you not think it will be reserved for the elites?
What happens if the tech gets to the point that it can erase memories and implant new programming?
Are you ready to lose who you were?
Would you even know it happened to you?

You don't seem to be taking any of this into consideration in your blind pursuit of progess which is illogical imho.

If humanity only consisted of whites and Japs, we would.

> Do you really believe that what you describe as advanced technology will passed out to the masses for free?

No.

> Do you not think it will be reserved for the elites?

Of course.

> What happens if the tech gets to the point that it can erase memories and implant new programming?

We may already be there.

> Are you ready to lose who you were?

I already have multiple times in this life.

> Would you even know it happened to you?

Which timeline are we in again?

> your blind pursuit of progess

It's not really MY pursuit of progress, it's just that I seem to be the only one noticing it and its repercussions. The rest of you live in a fucking dream world where nobody notices.

If there was only aryans and.honorary aryans we would've already had a space imperium,just saying......

That's why I picked them, my wording could have been better though. They only improve because it helps them kill and avoid being killed