NET NEUTRALITY

Should we save it?

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the fuck can we do except shitpost

i don't even know what it is

underage pls go

Guys... Tell me he didn't post up our site on his show

I would help but net neutrality coming from him gives me a bad taste in my mouth.

It's already too late for that. The left just has more subversive means of doing it (shadowbanning, doxing, fake news, etc)

It is current year

John Oliver is a propagandist but must occasionally pander to rationality

I know this sounds wierd, but John Oliver is right on this issue.

>Guys they can sell your search history!!!!

They've been doing this for years

>They will limit the sites you can visit

VPN's would stop this and any company that tried this would be commiting corporate suicide. Not to mention it would also counteract the whole "selling of data" if they limit what you do

What is current year man's end game?
also that url they bought is funny.

he's right about most

Time warner owned puppet

I don't trust him, there's something a foot

I know this sounds weird but I'll call my congressman if John Oliver domes himself on live TV.

honestly this user got the point , though as resourceful as we may be at times ... i think we have to come to realization this site is a release from a world where , mentally we are being left behind .. keeping it alive here is important but let us not lose grasp that times are changing niggers traps jews fake news etc etc got the steering wheel for now till another culture revolution happens , same as the 60's were just seeds planted for what exploded recently witht he left , we are the seeds that in a few decades will reclaim in a radical way , it happens all the time , but lets remember we arent nazi's that shit is fun too say and shit talk just for the lulz , i think i understand we just want social order and we'll go back to being a political and fuck with everyone untill we need to pick once more between a semi working culture vs a craze antifa like mind one but we are just finding out about net neut. which means the engineering for it has long been in process peace

Yes. This is one thing that shouldn't be a partisan meme.

Damn that's a big bitch.

You mean should you get it. Right now you don't have it.

Considering Sup Forums is on (((their))) top list of bannable websites, I actually agree.

No, let it die. Letting it be eradicated is the better option. Government out of the fucking Internet.

>we aren't nazis

Speak for yourself, shlomo.

I know he's right. I just don't like it that he is. But there is a first for every thing.

Correct. It's better that people like Soros control access to this website.

Government acts a bulwark preventing ISP's from completely and utterly obliterating the Internet as we know it

Net neutrality is government out of your internet. Right now they are in your internet dumbass. They are selling your data, limiting what is allowed, banning hate speech, banning torrents and other sharing sites.

he'd finally clean up this filth so im for it

why is the tall bitch wearing 8 inch heels

>(You)

>thinking only the left does this

wow. get out of mommys basement and read a book

No he isn't.

The only filth is your stupidity leaf.

It's a question of whether you'd rather have the government or corporations in your Internet, and I'd much rather have the government because corporations have no goal other than make more money.

Government and ISP are both Soros' financial partners, question is only how much control is Soros(and similar people) allowed to have. There's a government law that decides what's the bandwidth and what kind of cables. If you want specifics that's actually international ISO standard many times, but they shouldn't be standardizing every shit, especially not what customers do online.

This is the opportunity, libtards will listen to him. If the "right" and the left say that they want to keep net neutrality the fags that run your country might listen.

shut up brother

you know it is our duty to uplift these savages

>Committing corporate suicide

Fantasy land:
Yeah because as we all know when you don't like your current isp you can just Willy nilly switch to any company you would like

Reality land:
Oh wait there are like 3 isp's In the whole country and in most areas you are restricted to just 1, these companies don't give a shit what you think of them if they have you by the balls

Government should break up monopolies, to ensure competition, else prices are going to get too high/spying..etc. and responsibility of ISP shouldn't go beyond their modem. They shouldn't decide/limit anything in what you do. Problem is that once you have leveled field of 1 oligarchy that controls smaller ISPs, then they all in same boat and there's no privacy any longer or competition, so then private investors start to think: what more can i get? And they will start selling your data and government will agree since they are on paycheck of ISP's investors.

Enjoy paying 20 bucks for the Sup Forums pack

I'm sorry Sup Forums pack is no longer available but we do have the reddit pack its basically the same thing you'll love it.

Fuck this stupid request from this stupid snaggle-toothed assclown.

If he were owned by time warner he would be shilling against net neutrality, like the fuckwits in these threads all day.

Shitpost on the FCC's website

>But there is a first for every thing.
This is literally his second net neutrality piece

If you're against Net Neutrality, you're a corporate shill who wants to start paying more money to use Sup Forums.

But Trump supporters are a bunch of corperate shills. but Trump supporters use Sup Forums. Oh, your hypocrisy is making my head hurt again Sup Forums

rename it NEET Neutrality, and you have yourself a winner

Remember to buy enough reddit gold to promote your post.

I feel like both sides are lying through their teeth about Net Neutrality. I have no idea what the fuck is true about it.

Can anyone here give me an unbiased

Q U I C K
R U N D O W N

"Net neutrality" gives over control of the internet to the government. Not a fan.

The problem with Net neutrality is only a question where does responsibility of ISP/government start and end to ensure neutrality in internet, which means basically that they won't analyze/inspect your internet traffic like they do today. So when you buy intetnet you buy internet speed and that's it, you don't buy a bug in your line and you don't buy police cop in your line and you don't buy government bug in your line. So it's more how ISP/government should work, not if you eliminate either of them.

Were all poor why would he have any use for us

You have to agree with current year man on this unless of course you're cucked by (((Media Companies))) and their Copyright attack dogs

Good to see this thread again though. Good psyop. Tell your masters the goyim know.

Net neutrality = u cant charge more to give access to different data/sites

Net neutrality is the idea that an ISP does not distinguish between packets of data based on what the data is.

Without it Mr. Shekelstein could make access to some data easier than others as long as they could pay to "fast track" the data.

In practice losing net neutrality means MSM will have priority again over content delivery.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality
>Net neutrality is the principle that Internet service providers and governments regulating the Internet should treat all data on the Internet the same, not discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, website, platform, application, type of attached equipment, or mode of communication.

So this also means that when you download from ftp they won't know it's ftp or if they know they shouldn't care. This also means torrents aren't banned.

If we actually had a choice in providers, it wouldn't be necessary.

It's not even the problem, bots are

look at this place

Sounds like a bullshit slippery slope you're trying to sell slovak. Things like telecom is not a market where a small business can just jump jump in so the lie of the free market doesn't matter. Also you seem to forget how corporations will collude between themselves or push policies that benefit their subsidiaries.

This is a thing where you need the government to play as the referee to keep the playing field level and NOT let the telecoms pick winners and losers. There is objectively no good argument to be against net neutrality, especially see as we currently have it now and it's pretty damn good. why do you want to fuck that up other than for corporate greed?

Thanks niganon and britanon.

Really jogs the noggin when you see posts against NN here of all places, then.

Popular screwing around by ISPs is done to private customers, while on other hand with large companies they never screw. So when ISPs lines are overloaded, they cut your private internet to ensure big companies having enough juice. Net neutrality of course forces ISPs to buy more processing power, so every customer has a steady working internet without interruptions.

And give it to private companies instead..

Also something for self interest, do you pirate stuff?

If you do and an ISP flags you, expect them to demand YOU pay a lot more for their services and throttle your connection. And if you think you can just go to another provider, good luck with everyone else not doing the same thing to you until you have no one left.

>Tripdubs

If no one listens to reason listen to KEK atleast

Telecoms should just buy enough computers so that they don't need to think about which line they going to cut to ensure other's line advantage. You even improve internet overall, since you get less problems with overall internet backbone.

You're talking about something complete separate from net neutrality. And the government already gave the telecoms a fuck ton of money to imporve their infrastructure to create a better system. All they did was pocket the money.

If anything you just made an argument that the government should start their own telecom company to force competition and companies to keep up with the rest of the world.

>I feel like both sides are lying through their teeth about Net Neutrality.

A S T U T E

The vast majority of it is really out of control hyperbole and misunderstandings, some of it intentional for lulz.

Basically the government wants to control the Internet using Title 2 of the 1930's Communications Act and run it as a public utility under their thumb.

Some people think this will keep different ISPs from treating different data differently, but there is so much more to the issue that gets ignored.

Largely, the problems that net neutrality is supposed to fix do not happen to the extent the hysterics claim, and anti-trust laws are already designed to punish companies that try to unfairly keep competitors down.

So because some companies are lame, the government is somehow some noble savior? What world are you from?

>where does responsibility of ISP/government start and end to ensure neutrality in internet

Don't favor one content provider over another. Pretty damn simple. If the ISPs do something shady you can bet the content providers will be running to papa gubment to tattle.

You know why they throttle? Because they don't have enough processing power to go around all customers. When you P2P then you can download from 1000 people at once and that breaks their outdated computers.
Come on now ISP faggots, we got fiber internet now, they still using old lines. USA has fallen in speed behind Romania btw.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Internet_connection_speeds
They don't want to advance, they are happy how it is.

Net neutrality was born mainly from the fact some use traffic more than others and those who use it 24/7 are likely to be limited in some way by ISP, unless they pay some little more money. And the fact is, you won't know when ISP is going to limit you, they might as well go beyond simple limitations and block certain sites, might be your site, since it just happens to be competition of some child company of ISP.

>and anti-trust laws are already designed to punish companies that try to unfairly keep competitors down.

yeah, but this will enable them to do much more than just keep competitors down. they can literally make you pay extra for faster netflix. with net neutrality they can't.

net neutrality has zero downsides for pretty much everyone except the ISP's, and the only downside for the ISP's is that they can't be as immoral and greedy as they'd want to, which i think we can agree is a good thing.

net neutrality is basically a good thing in every single way and if you are against it you're an idiot.

They throttle not because of limitation with their network, they throttle because they can gouge money. Repealing net neutrality is just going to make that problem a thousand times worse.

We need government intervention to force our infrastructure to improve seeing as the private sector refuses to innovate.

It was born to keep the internet equal for everyone because of the power it represents and how ISP's are gate keepers who can easily abuse that power.

You should also add that because of Republicans and how the laws are written, anti trust laws are rarely enforced.

Look at how AT&T was broken up decades ago and now they've slowly but surely were allowed to merge back together.

>we arent nazis

But that's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>AT&T was broken up decades ago
It disgusted me that they were allowed to merge again

well first of all i wouldn't bring parties into this because i don't live in a place that's one step from a dictatorship so i don't give a fuck about republicans and democrats.

however, i agree with the rest of your statement, but even without it net neutrality is basically a near perfect thing. it is good in absolutely every way, i didn't feel i'd need to write more.

>net neutrality is basically a near perfect thing
what a fool you are it's no wonder why since europeans seem to love fake socialism

Not a quick run down but anyway:

Pro net Neutrality means that ISPs cannot prioritise or refuse to carry traffic passing through their networks. They might want to do this because they are affiliated with products from one source e.g. Netflix than another e.g. Hulu and gain kickbacks from using their subscribers to one product over another e.g. by making

At the moment this is guaranteed through legislation and enforced by the FCC that also provides the consumer's grievance mechanism in the case of ISP fuckery e.g. artificial restriction or monopolisation.

The new changes proposed by ex Verizon heavy weight and FCC chair to completely remove net neutrality from legislation on the service seem benign. Aijit Pai is basically saying, less legislation is a good thing and that governments shouldn't interfere in markets.

However, this is concerning because it means the ISPs and media companies will create their own code of conduct and "enforce" it while having a mechanism (Terms of Service) to eventually threaten carriage should they wish. The main things however is that the grievance processes is put back into the courts, which of course when pitted against big media, the consumer cannot hope to win in.

Secondary issues concern safe harbour and prosecution of Copyright infringers i.e. the usual dipshits like RIAA etc are very keen to "disrupt carriage" to torrent sites etc via the courts rather than the Government regulator.

Pai says the FCC should make the rules and can't enforce them anyway so they should get out of the game. He should STFU and return to his designated shitting street realising that he is a public servant and should do exactly what he is fucking told.

In aus we have a Telecommunications Ombusdsman's office to enforce "local" net neutrality but obviously with the interconnection of the Internet and the amount of US content we use this is an issue for us as it is all people over the world.

Biggest problem is always with what you don't know and you don't know when they going to limit your internet and you don't know when they going to sell your internet traffic. With Net Neutrality you don't have to worry about those two unknown things.

To be fair, both parties are corporate whores. Just one party only lets corporations get away with half the shit they want while throwing some bones to the poor and the other party wants corporations and the rich to run the country and turn the country into a oligarchy.


There are times men need to be governed because if you give them unchecked power and authority, they will inherently abuse it. Net neutrality is one of those things.

making* shit slow from the less favoured provider

So the choices you lay out is, they might not fuck you, but they are allowed to fuck you. And the other choice (net neutrality) They are not allowed to fuck you.

I fail to see how the former is even acceptable.

>implying governments are any better than companies

If there was a Dem in and they banned "hate speech", Current Year Man wouldn't be talking out against it.

There is certain possibility they will always fuck you, but you can say that's not allowed and maybe sue them.

The later (net neutrality) lets government regulate the internet

LEAF

Yes

The usual arguments against regulation:

>stifling innovation
>market interference
>big government
>nanny state
>corporations are gud bois and dindu nuffin (leave them alone)

you can't handle the truth

>John Oliver desperately realizing that we are memeing the shit out of him and this is his way of grovelling to us saying "no, please stop memeing me. I don't hate you goys! Even though I called you Nazis! I didn't mean Sup Forums! Please stop goys!"

Nope. Net neutrality is more needless regulation for a problem that doesn't exist but possibly could in the future because of other needless regulation that was put in place.

Why do people here love being fucked up the ass by corporations?

That's what current year is asking of you. He's asking you to shitpost on the FCC website.

The newfags weren't a give away?

Oh NOW they want our help?

if this guy is for it then maybe its shit

>Really jogs the noggin when you see posts against NN here of all places, then.

You must be joking. Sup Forums has done nothing but attempt to self destruct for the past 2 years. How else do you explain trying to get retards elected?

I don't in fact I want both Comcast and AT&T split up. You can stick you NetNanny pipe up your ass and smoke a turd.

At least its not taco bell

>John Oliver is a propagandist
full stop. Look at the politicians who support net neutrality.

>We

Lurk more newfag

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>Not knowing about a ToS.
Have you read what you get right now? if they kill Net Neutrality, I'm sure the updated ToS would have them outright say they can cut your internet off and you're still forced to pay for the entire year of service. And there is shit all you can do since telecom is not treated as a public utility like electricity and water.