There seem to be 2 ways of looking at this issue and you may point out who is the "shilling" side if you will.
The first one being: AnCap/Libertarians that fell for the "Traffic oriented preference" meme that Corporations like Comcast have put out, where essentially the point of Net Neutrality is to restrict a company's ability to provide better service to those clients who are accessing generally more demanded web services.
^ This, of course, is bullshit and has no basis.
The second being: Large corporations have monopolized their business by essentially bribing local governments to cater to them, forcing millions of people to be stuck with a shitty service, which will eventually end up costing much more because of "Service Packages" that include things like: -Netflix and Entertainment package -News package -Gaming and Entertainment etc.
Net Neutrality affects all of us and should not be glossed over or not talked about on the grounds of Shill LARPING.
Please post some wicked sources to combat the "I'm a trumpcuck and I think net neutrality is fucking stupid!" Meme on this General.
>Government grants ISPs basically monopolies in certain states >US ISPs cuck their customers all day >Government forces them to abide by Net Neutrality
Net Neutrality is the TIP OF THE ICEBERG
Im a free market guy all the way but the issue is government is always somewhere and the cronyism lingers around
Once you plant the seed of government and regulation you will never get rid of this cancer.
I hate John Oliver for forcing people to petition the government for MORE GOVERNMENT but seeing how cucked the US is and how corrupt there probably is no other solution.
It is sad really.
Caleb Bell
Aye, dear kraut
Jeremiah Reed
>city in Tennessee offers 1 gigabit fiber in home for 70 bucks a month with no fees >the telecoms that you good goys support sue them
OY VEY GOY! YOU CAN'T DO THIS! DIS IS SOCIALISM!!!!!! I'M SUING YOU
I'll be very to the point about the situation: Cable companies don't like people dropping their expensive TV subscription with them so they blocked Netflix as well as they could. They didn't violate NN for this, btw., just were unwilling to give them normal contracts. The telcoms don't really have much motivation for innovative change with packages and such, they're mostly just blocking off change because they want to stick to their old business model.
Grayson Ward
it's true, comcast sued the city for giving the goyim gigabit internet for 70 dollars a month, these companies are evil and the trumptards are retarded for supporting them
Is appointing Ajit Pai, who will gut net neutrality and return the Internet to the people, the Obama administration's greatest accomplishment?
Adrian Collins
it's good, one of the few good things osambo did
Adrian Green
It's neutral
Hunter Ross
They are more or less natural monopolies just like power companies.
Jason Barnes
He has served in various positions at the FCC since being appointed to the commission by President Barack Obama in May 2012, at the recommendation of Mitch McConnell. He was confirmed unanimously by the United States Senate on May 7, 2012,[1] and was sworn in on May 14, 2012, for a five-year term.[3] In January 2017, President Donald Trump named Pai to Chairman of the agency.[4][5]
Appointed to commission by Obama, named Chairman by Trump
None of it fucking matters, can you stop being autistic and focus on the issue at hand instead of trying to blame a retired dude for every current issue?
Click on express, and tell them that you support net neutrality.
Thomas Ramirez
Oy vey Herbert Hoover did the Great Depression with the help of no one else.
Xavier Jenkins
Being neutral is GOOD fat lobbyists trying to get rid of net neutrality is bad. Gofccyourself don't repeal or change net neutrality
David Collins
>natural monopoly
doesn't exist pal. In AnCapistan everyone can just buy ground and lay down fiber if he wants to.
Aiden Torres
Pretty sure Texas now has their own free market electrics now, haven't really kept up with how good that was doing though, we still have a monopoly on the west coast, still affordable though
Jack Cook
The internet is a service, not a right, if you force equality on it then you're taking away Capitalism's right to compete for a product.
BTFO Bernie scum, stop trying to socialize everything.
Blake Ward
>Mexican thinks he knows shit about american politics Build wall. As for net neutrality fuck right off. I didn't vote trump so that my ISPs can legally fuck me over and for current year man to synonymize me with reddit. Foreign fucks like you make everything worse and trump being fooled into hiring that pajeet jew is the root of these problems. Get off my website.
So then yes. It will be Obama's greatest accomplishment. Thank you for confirming.
Benjamin Kelly
>The first one being: AnCap/Libertarians that fell for the "Traffic oriented preference" meme
The libertarian perspective is to have a less oppressive government. Taking away the government's ability to regulate the internet is one step toward that.
Isaac Taylor
Yea but utilities are talking about the Internet line itself the cos of speed etc, these aren't the changes being discussed... If you think trump or anyone else for that matter can't see that having websites/companies pay top dollar to give more ease of traffic from their domains and through the ISP to slow down info from other companies, that they wouldnt?
Ayden Edwards
Amazing how much power ISP's have in America. They own the shit. Politicians and judges.
I don't want net neutrality laws for Americans so i can buy some sweet sweet stocks. Maybe i should start buying right now.
Julian Cooper
The right to compete has already been removed though. ISPs are, by and large, monopolies. They need to be reigned in by someone.
Mason Howard
>gut net neutrality and return the Internet to the people This is an oxymoron.
Joseph Scott
Giving Corporations tools to fuck over monopolized states through bribery stifles the free market. Onward you go little bird to finding the truth
Angel Cooper
Net neutrality is indeed very important. There is already ongoing abuse by the service providers, it's not new, but it shows that even with the "title 2" protection. The article said something along the lines of an ISP slowing access to an MMO, in this case, League of Legends.
Second thing that NOBODY mentions are the restrictions for new service providers to enter the business. "The decision to allow a new ISP to be able to operate, belongs to the pre-existing ISPs" So Comcast and Verizon don't have much competition because they simply say "no" when a new provider shows up.
This is the perfect example of American Idiocracy at play. Like this idiot "muh free market". The market is not free. And if there is no regulation and/or corruption, this is exactly the mess you end up with.
So think about it for a second, anons. The first sites to go slow will be the ones like Sup Forums and the servers of your favorite vidya.
Everybody should be pisses. I mean, it's like non Americans are more scared than the Americans themselves.
Cameron Johnson
so when will the exclusive deals for public internet be repealed?
Owen Hernandez
the point is they'd be free to throttle traffic as they please cause they are FREE to do so
however companies that do this should get fucked in the market place because people wouldn't put up with this
the problem is that these ISPs have complete control over certain areas due to cronyism and thus you can't give them the freedom they deserve
Camden Young
So we should be oppressed by corporations instead of the government? Literally we should be run by jews instead of people we can actually vote into office. Wonder who's behind this post.
Gavin Sullivan
Wrong. FCC is in the pocket of lobbyists anyway. That's how we ended up with the recently repealed regulation that gave preferential treatment to companies like Google and AMZN with respect to anonymous user data collection.
Jacob Myers
right. You can't give them the freedom they don't deserve. Don't deserve because free market means nothing to them, only personal benefit.
Camden Martinez
When was the last time you voted for the FCC, idiot? Sage because you are that stupid.
William King
So I get to choose between being abused by companies or my government? Delicious
>Literally we should be run by jews instead of people we can actually vote into office
>he still believes in Voting
lmao! I thought the jews run the government?! Well what is it then
It is clearly easier to not give a company money than trying to get rid of some fag others voted in
>only personal benefit.
which they secure through the government ... yeah i always say Free Market is anti corporatism but people don't believe me. At least you get it now
Grayson Long
I don't know, but I'm pushing for that, too.
The reason companies have monopolies in some places is because of the government. The government makes it illegal for anyone except the ones who pay them enough money and enter a contract to provide cable service.
Hudson Moore
C# is microsoft pooshit though, not elegant at all
David Hernandez
I always got it pham.
Lucas White
Please tell us the ways corporations can oppress us without the government's help.
Gabriel Campbell
>NYT, Time, and John Oliver shilling this hard for it wtf I'm a net neutrality loving goy now
Juan Nelson
yeah. Different means to exert power over you, similar effect
Eli Taylor
Please folks answer me this question is john Oliver /our guy/?
Justin Jenkins
>however companies that do this should get fucked in the market place because people wouldn't put up with this Okay dumbass, let's talk about the market. Remember when television was free? of course not because you're underage. But there was a time where you didn't have to pay for channels. What changed? well corporations decided that they'd all charge you, but not only that, they'd charge you, bar you access from other channels, then charge you again
So what's to stop ISPs from barring Sup Forums unless you buy the [controversial content] pack? and torrenting? over. "buh buh buh muh market". Corporations can all agree to set up a fixed price point across all of them so that you literally have no choice. This is why we need government regulation, because jews are crafty bastards. You're giving them all the freedom they need to attack you from a point a safety and you're too fucking stupid to even realize it.
Benjamin Wright
On net neutrality yeah. On virtually everything else no.
Wyatt Roberts
>It is clearly easier to not give a company money than trying to get rid of some fag others voted in
You know why we had net neutrility laws in the NEtherlands as one of the first countries? Because ALL mobile carriers tried to ban messaging apps like Whatsapp at the same time. So people would continue to use SMS instead. SMS was a mayer income for them. This free market shit is a myth. They are organized.
Jaxon Sanchez
Yes. Mr. Oliver is a man all good goys can look up to!
Juan Hill
>Remember when television was free?
i live in Germany my dude. We don't do no cable cuckoldry here.
Pay-TV utterly failed in germany because people didn't pay for this shit.
Adrian Reed
Not the current argument in place though. The question is whether Joliver was right or not? Fact is, net neutrality is in place. Look it up. Should it be trusted that correct changes will be made? Or should we be OK with the current situation? I don't see an argument about monopolies. There are laws against it, should more companies come up and give cheaper prices? Yes but that isn't happening at this current moment and the changes wanted to take place aren't for or against that. Don't make the mistake of reading into an opposition for something that has been just fine.
The Internet isn't all fios and t3 lines in the u.s. rural and even urban places still have one ISP with
Zachary Walker
>recently repealed regulation that gave preferential treatment to companies like Google and AMZN with respect to anonymous user data collection. yeah, now all ISPs can collect and sell your data. You sure showed them by giving them even more power over you, you dumb fuck.
Christian Baker
Those channels are still free, faggot
t. Has a digital antenna
Nicholas Watson
hell no
we love the internet just as much as the liberal millenials, though
Kevin Ross
They always could
Cameron Ramirez
Even though I know your being ironical, I seriously fear his susceptible people are to comments like these
Michael Peterson
This
just look it up on youtube. Antenna channels are just underappreciated so much most people don't know they exist anymore
Gavin Richardson
>The internet is a service not a right Wrong. It is a right. You CANNOT compete in the global market or any part of modern society without it. Take your head out of your ass. We need someone to break these monopolies or reign them in somehow. Don't be daft.
Leo Clark
I'm not being ironical :^)
Justin Foster
Different markets. Merrica got their hard on for HD everything as soon as the dvd came out
Michael Garcia
>We don't do no cable cuckoldry here. Then why the fuck are you speaking on american issues? No wonder you have no idea what you're talking about. Get out of this thread faggot.
>10 channels for free >buy cable for more channels >have to pay again for the channels they don't want to give me >have to pay AGAIN for all my channels. >People want this for the internet What you're saying is essentially "haha I my Jewish overlords still let me use google for free, suck it.
He called us reddit. I agree with him on this, but I'll never forgive him for that bit of shitposting. The fucker.
Christopher Reyes
we also pay a TV fee like in the U.K. Since you're already paying the market is already pretty "saturated" as is
Parker Morgan
It's amazing how much control (((they))) can exert on you lot by threatening to take your porn and anime away. You're no different than the gibsmedats.
Jace Harris
The jews haven't made it available in my country, Oy Vey!
Luis Bell
>Then why the fuck are you speaking on american issues?
>your people voted with their money to cuck companies >americans can't do that >the government has to step in and fix it
lol
Evan Howard
>you again
please go on about how national socialism is the same thing as communism again and that jews are totally okay
Jordan Myers
Can you just TRY to not be retarded
Robert Thompson
No, what I'm saying is that those free channels you were masturbating over are still there, except now we also have 1000 other channels which you can choose to buy or not.
Kayden Edwards
No, they couldn't. They needed to ask you explicit permission before you idiot and even if you were right that doesn't make it ok. How can you be such a fucking cuck? We should be pushing for more personal liberties like internet privacy not forking over our rights so Shlomo can buy his third yacht.
Ethan Price
Do you trust corporations to not disadvantage their rivals or neutrals in order to make more money?
If so you should support former Viacom VP and current FCC chair in removing net neutrality laws.
Ryder Gomez
I know germany hasn't been the smartest country since the rest of the world knocked the shit out of you so hard you went from the farthest right to the farthest left but are your people really this retarded?
There were more than just those 10 channels. Like I said, I know you're underaged so you don't remember a time when there was more to basic cable. The vast majority of those channels switched over to paid only because of jewry and now you're giving them the power to do it with the internet. Can't wait for next election to roll around and all right wing sites are unreachable because good goy, give us your freedom on the internet so you can really be free. You're the worst kind of shill, the covert one.
Blake Mitchell
All they did was remove the special treatment granted to some companies over others. Full stop. If you want to argue about privatized data collection in general, that is an entirely different discussion. Also, this is an 18+ board.
Christian Jenkins
It is still all the same utility provider with a hard wire in the ground, these other companies pay American Electric Power to bill people for their electric use.
The only reason net neutrality is even a debate is because the internet is a newer communications technology and so we don't have laws for it that are up to snuff.
All the same polices that apply to things like phones should also apply to the internet.
John Phillips
>are your people really this retarded?
yes we are retarded for not falling for the cable tv jew .. yes goyim we don't pay $150 a month for stupid cable packages! we are the retards here hehehehe
reminder to cut your cable cord if you want to make a real change in america
Adrian Bailey
Is this really it? Is there more to net neutrality? This seems to be the only thing the right, us and the left agree on. The (((Mass Media))) is pushing net neutrality... What do they have to gain from it? What do we?
James Cruz
Oy vey, god forbid the US gets rid of net un-neutrality and the internet becomes mad max style wasteland that it was back in... 2014?!
Wait what?!
Oh yeah, that's what these shills (probably finance by pacs owned by google/facebook/netflix etc.) are not telling you. NET NEUTRALITY DIDN'T EXIST BEFORE 2014 AND EVERYTHING WORKED FINE.
William Parker
Holy fuck how can one person be such an idiot?You think corporations won't work together?If all the corporations work together to equally fuck the citizens whilst raising prices,we are all fucked.I can't believe someone is actually defending fucking isps
Dominic Allen
Except it didn't.Before 2014 everyone hated isps even more than they do now. Go to twatter archives and you can see normies whining about their service provider
