Thread for discussion of Italian Fascism, and other forms of fascism, Mosley, Codreanu, Falange, etc. Also for sharing fascist literature and information.
NatSocs GTFO
A Fascist general for Fascists and those interested
Be respectful and please try to keep conversations relatively "intellectual"
Good fascists/similar or influential people to get an introduction
Oswald Mosely Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera Benito Mussolini Adolf Hitler Stepan Bandera Corneliu Zelea Codreanu Salazar Ramiro Ledesma Ramos Ettore Ovazza Gaetano Mosca Friedrich Nietzsche Charles Maurras Enrico Corradini Filippo Tommaso Marinetti Johann Plenge Alceste De Ambris Gabriele d'Annunzio George Lincoln Rockwell Juan Perón Giovanni Gentile Julius Evola
Types of Fascism
Italian Falangism National-Syndicalism British Union National-Socialism Strasserism Meme futurism Clerical Fascism Brazilian Integralism Peronism
"[Fascism] was an explosion against intolerable conditions, against remediable wrongs which the old world failed to remedy. It was a movement to secure national renaissance by people who felt themselves threatened with decline into decadence and death and were determined to live, and live greatly."~Oswald Mosely
>philosophic conception Fascism is thought and action. It is action with an inherent doctrine which, arising out of a given system of historic forces, is inserted in it and works on it from within. It has therefore a form co-related to the contingencies of time and place; but it has at the same time an ideal content which elevates it into a formula of truth in the higher region of the history of thought.
Benjamin Anderson
Can somebody redpill me on Salazar?
Jeremiah Cruz
I really like Mosley desu senpai, shame his movement didn't go any farther
Isaac Jones
>spiritual conception To Fascism the world is not this material world which appears on the surface, in which man is an individual separated from all other men, standing by himself and subject to a natural law which instinctively impels him to lead a life of momentary and egoistic pleasure. In Fascism man is an individual who is the nation and the country. He is this by a moral law which embraces and binds together individuals and generations in an established tradition and mission, a moral law which suppresses the instinct to lead a life confined to a brief cycle of pleasure in order, instead, to replace it within the orbit of duty in a superior conception of life, free from the limits of time and space a life in which the individual by self-abnegation and by the sacrifice of his particular interests, even by death, realises the entirely spiritual existence in which his value as a man consists.
Ryan Gutierrez
>ethical conception This positive conception of life is evidently an ethical conception. And it comprises the whole reality as well as the human activity which domineers it. No action is to be removed from the moral sense; nothing is to be in the world that is divested of the importance which belongs to it in respect of moral aims. Life, therefore, as the Fascist conceives it, is serious, austere, religious; entirely balanced in a world sustained by the moral and responsible forces of the spirit. The Fascist disdains the "easy" life.
Levi Reed
>religious conception Fascism is a religious conception in which man is considered to be in the powerful grip of a superior law, with an objective will which transcends the particular individual and elevates him into a fully conscious member of a spiritual society. Anyone who has stopped short at the mere consideration of opportunism in the religious policy of the Fascist Regime, has failed to understand that Fascism, besides being a system of government, is also a system of thought.
Jacob Howard
yeah our corrupt government arrested him, WW2 ended his career, he honestly could have won
Jonathan Ramirez
>NatSoc's OUT OUT OUT > Includes Hitler as a good fascist
Fascism is just another form of le civic nationalism meme
Angel Watson
What exactly happened with Mosley and his movement? How/when did it form? How fast did it grow? How big was it at it's height? Did he participate in any elections?
Dylan Long
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Michael Jones
1/2 Reminder that Idealism is the official metaphysics of Fascism
Giovanni Gentile, the "philosopher of Fascism", he was influential in providing an intellectual foundation for Italian Fascist thought, and ghostwrote part of The Doctrine of Fascism (1932) with Benito Mussolini.
He was involved in the resurgence of Hegelian idealism in Italian philosophy and also devised his own system of thought, which he called "actual idealism" or "actualism", and which has been described as "the subjective extreme of the idealist tradition"
Caleb Reyes
>NatSocs GTFO >Types of Fascism: National-Socialism What did he mean with this?
>In philosophy, idealism is the group of philosophies which assert that reality, or reality as we can know it, is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or otherwise immaterial.
What are the biggest differences between nat.soc. and fascism?
Gavin Hall
Nat soc is a form of Facism,
Thomas Cruz
fascism is not founded in racial divisions, basically, but more culturally
Luke Ross
So it's cucked? Thanks for clearing that up.
Matthew Sanders
Didn't fascist Italy have racial laws as well?
Robert Barnes
The reason why it's not founded on racial divisions is because no one could possibly comprehend the levels of kikery we would be subject to, I.e. They never fore saw immigration as becoming a problem
Anthony Collins
Waiting for Antifa lurkers to throw a tantrum ITT...
Oliver Diaz
Clerical Fascism is the only way
Connor Gonzalez
obviously depends of a few factors, like history background of the nation it wants to be established, its culture and so on.
In my case I'm talking about the spanish fascism, more concretically of José Antonio Primo de Rivera, founder of Falange. He claimed a spain united with lationamerica and portugal, because the spanish race as something pure, both genetically and historically, would make no sense at all, it is diverse. and he criticized nationalsocialism for his irrational or radical hatred against jews.
Liam Bennett
>irrational DROPPED
Nicholas Green
Explain clerical Facism, please. t. Very interested fellow
Jonathan Williams
If you could give arguments and actually try to debate we could discuss it properly. The hatred against jews in the nazi germany is very polemical, it can be viewed as both irrational, or just radical, and also deserved.
>Germany takes Jews in during 1800's >treats them as equals >they are happiest and most successful in Germany while still being despised in the rest of Europe >ww1 comes around >international jew press support germany for a while >the moment they detect that they can steal Palestine with British help, they backstab the only people who had treated them with kindness >the smear campaign against Germanic people hasn't ended for now over 100 years
Kill every last kike, they are turncoats by nature
Christian Gonzalez
NatSoc > Facism
Jeremiah Ross
Far right nationalist one party authoritarianist state with laws and society informed mainly by religion (orthodox Christianity in my ideal state)
There is a reason of why they have been expelled and persecuted through all the history. And although I personally believe that the jewish ''elite'', call them zionists or whatever you want, must be completely destroyed, but there has to be a better way of dealing wih them besides simple genocide of every jewish person independently of who they are.
Let's be rational, their ''problem'' can't be something genetic.
Henry Clark
We already had that in Spain with Francisco Franco, but with catholicism instead. It was pretty great.
Jacob Gonzalez
Stop trying to divide Fascists and NatSocs. Stepan Bandera disapproves of your post OP.
Josiah Murphy
until they convert and practice truthfully, they are part of the jewish nation wreckers club and cannot be trusted. there is no soft answer to this question in my mind. either they will wipe us out or we will do the same to them
Juan Mitchell
forgot pic not that it matters
Jace Reyes
Spaniards today have nothing to work for, no pride, just EU welfare babys. Nationalism revitalizes the spirit of a country and it can be seen in all levels, economic and otherwise
Jaxon Bailey
test
Hudson Stewart
(WTF, why am i getting a connection error trying to post pic related, but posting other shit works fine?)
Zachary Barnes
I agree, but it doesn't happen with only spaniards, it spreads to almost every single country.
Globalism and all his ramifications: socialism marxism, capitalism... they make sure to eliminate any purpose beyond living, consuming and dying. As you said, there is no romanticism, no idealism, no pride, nothing.
What you say makes sense, but again, I think it has to be with something more culturally related in my opinion.
Grayson Peterson
Franco destroyed Falangism, created a frankestein with Falange (Jose Antonio), JONS (sindicalism, non-political party, "direct action"), carlism (anti Bourbons monarchy), catholicism and traditionalism.
It was weird, but it worked.
EU destroyed our industry with the cuotas system. We exchanged credits for sovereignty, and eventually we'll pay a greater price. People it's ok with EU, they even feel pride... It's disgusting.