Taxing childless people at higher rates

What would happen if we started taxing childless people at higher rates? Childless people are benefiting from the system while not putting a fair contribution into it.

What I propose is taxing their incomes at a rate which is 15% higher. For each child you have, that amount goes down by 5%. After having 3 children, you will not be paying the additional tax. This would incentivize people, especially those who are upper middle class (smarter people), to have more children.

This additional revenue generated from the tax will be used to promote and subsidize child births. For example, mothers will receive additional aid from the government for every child they have. Russia did something similar to this and saw an immense gain in births.

usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-04-05-russia-baby-boom_N.htm

But we already do that you fucking idiot. Clearly you've never paid taxes at all.

I would leave society for good
>not putting a fair contribution into it.
so all other taxes are not enough?
fuck you international jew, I am not breeding another goyim for you to make bank account and be just another set of numbers for you to give loans

>be single
>more of your money goes to some nigger who divorced her husband and had 12 kids

or how about just cutting benefits on childless people in the first place rather than a convoluted scheme that incentives more degenerates to spawn degenerates to avoid tax

That isn't true at all, especially in America. Having kids is so costly. The amount it costs to raise a kid for a middle class family has been estimated at $200,000 a year.

It's no where near 15%.

Bye.

>cutting benefits on childless people
what benefits do you speak of?

>no children/dependants
>claimed 0
>have child/dependant
>claim 1

But we already do this.

>tfw I still wouldn't have kids

all of them

You can't tax someone for NOT doing something you fuck. Having a child is a choice, not a requirement.

That's the issue. America is too far down the line. This would work best for a homogeneous society. Capitalism is what made Americans neglect society and resort to displacing themselves for a few extra bucks in the bank.

The plan is interchangeable. It could be benefits, taxes, etc. It needs to be something.

This.

Childless couples get way less out of the system, you get a shitton of benefits when you have kids in most Western countries.

Also, we don't need more people. We really fucking don't. T. Earth.

We already have this. You get benefits and tax exemptions for having kids, dipshit.

>Also, we don't need more people. We really fucking don't. T. Earth.

False, we need more Europeans. We don't need more chinks, Jews, pajeets, or nigs.

>stupid ideas posted on Sup Forums

No. I'm already paying for single mothers to open their legs and pop out other little gib junkies. Look into Australia's welfare system. It's a fucking joke

Not to a far enough extent. Having children is very unaffordable, and this tax would alleviate the costs.

Yes you can. Your emotions don't change the facts, darling.

>What would happen if we started taxing childless people at higher rates?
We technically do dopey. They don't get that fuck huge deduction. It's unfair too, since childless people use less government resources.

>Childless people are benefiting from the system
How?

>has been estimated at $200,000 a year.
It's was estimated by somebody really really bad at math then.

>confirmed to never be a single taxpayer

There are none you fucking nunce. Everything we get, we earn

not an answer
use examples or fuck you
not only childless people get less out, there are hidden problems like workplaces bullying childless because
>you have no kids or wife, you can work on saturday, yeah? Maybe I will give you bonus, you are so good worker, he he he

So what you're really asking for is a race war.

What about genetically inferior people who shouldn't propagate their genes? Will they still have to pay high taxes if they don't make genetically defective babies?

Implying anyone with brain doesn't already work off the table. You'll tax me more just so Tawanishqawbla and her eight crotchgoblins will have mo munny fo. dem programs? Kek.

aren't we all asking fo race war?

That's not the solution.
Instead of punishing people without children, you should make having successful children more lucrative. If your child is doing great at school, you should get some returns.

Only if you add a tax for the dumb fucks who have 5+ kids.

>not only childless people get less out, there are hidden problems like workplaces bullying childless because
>>you have no kids or wife, you can work on saturday, yeah? Maybe I will give you bonus, you are so good worker, he he he
I have literally never seen this happen outside fiction.

It would have to truly encourage healthy, functional families though. Not just encourage the wrong people to have kids in the wrong circumstances.

As long as I can fight on the white side I'll be cool with it. You can put a bullet in my nigger head after the war is over if you want.

This. Fuck knows what side deals families must have because they're surviving and maybe 10% of the population is earning $200k and above

you live in trinidad and tobago, there are many things you literally never seen, like snow or good vodka
it happened to me until I quit the fuck out of that company

Come on dogfucker, you know the latter is exactly what will happen. So when middle, upper-middle and upper class has more kids they will make a new excuse saying that we gotta help the minorities and tax you even more do deshaquanika can get her nails done and buy a new weave.

You dumb nigger, that's the estimation from birth - 18

>Taxing childless people at higher rates
No, fuck that. The women are the gatekeepers of sex so don't punish me for not finding a partner.

Taxes aren't the probalem. I'm not breeding because of the taxes. I'm not breeding because I don't want to have a child that's half a piece of shit.

I've seen snow before. I've fucked a white bitch in the snow before because she was expressing her tolerance like the stupid cow she is. I've also had Greygoose, the best vodka in the world according to (((THEM)))

With all the tax breaks you get for children, especially if you're a single parent, childless people are ALREADY PAYING MORE than parents.
You're a tard.

>What would happen if we started taxing childless people at higher rates?
You'd get more shit parents and welfare junkies.

>Incentivize people by not robbing them more

>Instead of making sure they will not bury their career with the child making.

I am statist to the core, but even for my standards it's too burger and retarded.

Individual Mandate.

>i'm a fucking child who's never had to pay a property tax bill

Here you get tax cuts per child. Having 3+ kids you dont pay tax

This is very important. Degeneracy taxes should replace all other taxes, if you want to be a self-indulgent piece of shit then you pay the taxes so the rest don't have to.

>200000$ a year per child
Nigger, I think you mistyped.

>taxes are the solution

fuck off you commie

What if instead of making childless couples pay more taxes you just deduct tax from the families with children?
oh wait

The fact that it'll incentivize people to have children is exactly why that is a bad idea. The world is overpopulated, we need less child birth. I say we give tax breaks to people who get sterilized. I say we subsidize the condom and birth control industry. I say we make abortions free and anonymous so teenagers can get them without their parents finding out

We don't need more nogs and spics.

>The world is overpopulated
With niggers.

>What would happen if we started taxing childless people at higher rates?
We'll be even poorer and will never money to have children.
Meanwhile brown people will still shit kids.
Taxing "childless people" is codeword for "taxing white people".

I'm already taxed higher than someone with a child. I, as a single man who works and has no dependants get absolutely no tax breaks or benefits from the government. I pay rouchly 30k a year in tax and get back maybe 1-2k if i'm lucky.

I am the governments cash cow that they milk to fund shitskin migrants and single mothers and yet I am not allowed to complain about it for fear of being locked up. I'm pretty sure the yanks fought a revolution over this very thing.

I unironically agree with you.

So are you just a child or are you retarded? Serious question. Clearly, there is no way you are beyond your teenage years at most.

>work full-time
>25% of my pay is taxed before i get it in hand
>pay local and state taxes on purchases on top of that
>have to pay for my own health care on top of that
>some bright spark now wants to tax me @ 40% of my take home pay for not having a kid
>being middle class with an education and skills I pack my shit and emigrate to a less oppressive country.

Congrats! Instead of 25% tax, you now get 0% tax and 0 children out of it. This will happen en mass, an exodus of the middle-class workforce and all you're left with is a depleted, increasing unskilled workforce and crippled tax revenue.

see
But yes, I agree with you. But only for shitskins.

great, moar government, exactly what we fucking need.

I can't afford kids.
I don't have a partner.
I can't have kids cause I'm in debt up to my eyeballs and I can't take time off from work cause I might lose my job then.

So I don't see that really fixing the situation.

It´s easy, you just need progressive fertility tax.

If your fertility rate is too high (dindus, spics, pajeets), you get a tax raise for every child you gain.

If your fertility rate is too low (whites, nips), you get a tax deduction for every child you gain.

We just solved everything.

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>tax people for not polluting the planet with more unwanted kids
cool idea dummy

This will benefit people who irresponsibly have 8 kids and are already bleeding the welfare system dry. Unless you want to incentive reckless child birth this is a dumb idea.

>What would happen if we started taxing childless people at higher rates?
People would have babies that they don't care about or intend to care for just to get tax breaks, you fucking imbecile.

Welfare queens already have children for tax breaks and increased handouts so the theory of taxing childless people basically already exists anyway.

We should be incentivizing the production of valuable members of society by raising children to be successful and have good opportunities, not giving breaks to families that have 8 kids who will drop out of school to get a job to support their disfunctional parents and siblings.

that makes no sense, you complete retard.
you gotta be somewhat financially sustainable in order to even think about getting a new family in the first place.

you got it all backwards, faggot.

Exactly the same here for single people meanwhile lazy breeders shit out 5 kids and get handed loads of money to do nothing.

That's fine but I think the tax should start going back up for having too many children
IE 4 5% 5 10% 6 15% etc etc
Stop niggers squirting out a horde of shit worthless niggerbabies

We do this already, child tax credits. Niggers love it.

They already do. See "dependants"

Basically 2-3 kids per couple is optimal, less than 2 you risk under populating, more than three you're a burden on the welfare system. If you have less than 2 or more than 3 kids, your tax rate goes up.

Well, guess I'll start killing babies.

And the breeders are always the worst kinds of people to. We entered an age where natural selection is NOT happening. The future of our race will find out why the natural order is in place, but likely far, far too late.

Most people don't even make $200k a year retard.

kys fake American. What we need is more American bred whites born and raised. Eurocucks are even worse than chinks and pajeets because they insist on policies that bring even MORE of them over and worse like mudslimes and nignogs! There was a fucking Swedish filled town in like WI that tried to get their local government to take in droves of refugees. Tell me it's not a European problem. Europe must be quarantined and denied any entry into the US. American whites just have to breed more.

Your heart is in the right place, however such a tax is only alleviating symptoms, and not attacking the disease directly.

We need to attack urbanisation and the notion that career is the most important thing. 99% of mankind is a result of unwanted pregnancies, and at the same time we're thinking that unwanted pregnancies are bad and must be solved. Society's general attitude towards pregnancy and motherhood needs to be fixed, taxing childless people is only going to provoke them into becoming more militant.

FUCK OFF SOCIALIST

>american education

jamal , what are you doing?

Yeah, I've had similar thoughts.
Also childless people being pushed back for retirement. For example, 401k or Super not being accessible until later and taxed at a certain rate.
Also being ineligible for the pension/aged care payments until average life expectancy.

maybe its made to somehow oblige white people to make kids desu senpai

>go cemetary
>dig up 3 dead kids
>store them in freezer
I found a loophole already, retard.

I thought commies don't pay taxes as everything they own is owned by the government.

Okay Shlomo, well send our Muslims over to have 9 kids and not pay taxes.

This effectively already happens, people with children are given tax breaks. That said, at least in the US, having more population growth would be a bad thing.

Fucking this. I don't know why people give India so much shit, most of them know what the fuck is going on.

You are fucking mental, lad. You'll be sitting with 260 million niggers in that country by 2030 Don't incentivize getting children. Niggers and spics will out breed you. They have nothing better to do.

We already do this here, it's a fucking travesty

But all the retarded breeders and old farts love it, so it will never go away

>tax
KYS

>I say we give tax breaks to people who get sterilised
I say make it a one off payment so niggers are more likely to take it. A tax break would only work on successful people, which are precisely the people you don't want being sterilised.

I'd like one government-issued white gf, please.

Would lower the sexual market value of men.

This would futher isolate pre-existing families from anybody who wants to join the middle class.

Instead make child support payments voluntary and get rid of de-facto

Offer new homeowners a 25% reduction in loan repayment per baby they pop out. (hitlers model)

It would further incentivize opting out of society. If you don't work, you can't be taxed effectively.

It would also further incentivize tax evasion of all kinds.

Smart people who are having trouble financially would still not have kids - They cannot afford to have the kid just for the 5% tax break. Raising a kid would still cost far more than that 5% savings on taxes. To have a kid, you first need to have the money to have one and start raising it. If you are taxed into poverty, you cannot afford to have kids.

Dumb people, however, have kids whether they can afford them or not. It would just be a wealth transfer from medium intelligence and above people to idiots and niggers.

This. We don't need more spawners.

Also don't you get child tax credits or some shit in America? Or claiming a dependant means you get more money back or some shit?

Here we have enough problems with sprog cannons, government is trying to reduce the number.

>make people work even harder and longer to afford a living
>make it impossible to find a partner due to lack of time
>make it impossible to build a home due to a lack of money
>make it impossible for the middle class to grow, fucking up future generations even more while disstributing their wealth to the top and a few nigger tier parents shitting out kid after kid with fetal alcohol syndrome

Sure, that's a great way to make sure you don't have a fertility problem in your population, if your population will simply die out.

We don't need more people, we need more smart people and fewer dumb people. The main problem is the underclass. They're a drain. If they're allowed to multiply, eventually it will be the end of the US as we know it. They will recreate Brazil here via democracy.

Long term, it's more important to reduce the underclass than grow the upper class. The underclass is worse for civilization than the better people can make up for.

We have to stop paying dumb people to have kids. Pay people to not have kids and get sterilized, and make it an attractive deal for the underclass, including minors. The ideal is a shitskin female getting sterilized as soon as she's bleeding. Pay triple or more for that.

Couples whose IQ averages 105 or higher should be incentivized to have kids. Improve the country, don't grow it into a bigger Brazil.

no, fuck off with that stupid shit

You can stay, but you aren't allowed to breed our women.

Pay more than my share already. Fuck you.

listen sister, I'm not paying for your fucking kid

That's a cost to pay the child's living costs not extra cash that you are taxed for having the child. If anything childless individuals are already taxed at higher rates. They pay school taxes yet reap absolutely no benefit from it.

And what's with that wildly wrong estimate? Did your chimp brain think of that too?

Are you fucking retarded?

They aren't just given tax breaks, but refundable tax credits as well. Meaning people with children can earn back more than they put into the system and effectively have a negative tax contribution.