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Hahaha I was at a museum and there was a cuck holding an anti-trump sign and the kids were cheering "we love Trump!"

Oh boy, yet another sageblue divide and conquer thread.

The truth about immigration by the numbers:

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Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide

The plan to eliminate the white race:

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Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade:

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Cultural Marxism & Social Justice Explained:

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Why are we in Decline - Cultural Marxism:

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also see

The facts about slavery in North America:

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Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale:

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Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52)

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N-no goyim, don't increase minority support goyim!

Lol, Stormfags.

Bump!

so long term, you want america to be a non white country? how is this any different from what the far left wants?

i guess you are nicer about it, that's the only bonus

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No. The election is OVER, what fucking support do we need??? That excuse does not work post-election.

Stop and think. If he was secretly /ourguy/ he's ALREADY in power, what are we waiting for??

If you want "minority support", but don't want what's happening to our nation to be reversed, then how are you different from a leftist??

Of course gen-z is redpilled, it is what is considered to be the 'counter culture'

America was a 90%+ White country when it voted for all these destructive libtards policies.

Unless you can show that going back to that white level would somehow thwart the exact same thing from happening again, white supremacy is dead on arrival, not the least because the white race doesn't actually go for it at all.

Go yell 1488 and get back to me when you win any office in the land.

(((Schwartz)))

winning office won't mean shit if you are going to promote left wing lite policies, which is all "conservatives" have done for the past 50 years.

>oh guys, we are against illegal immigrants but we want lots of legal immigrants! they are based! the dems are the real racists! based black man!

i'd rather yell 1488 than have my kids grow up in an english speaking brazil, which is where your policies lead to.

i know that as a whole, america isn't going to be 90% white. i'm not wanting that, i'm just wanting an area of the country where we can exist as a people. i could care less about the mestizo states like CA and TX, they are lost causes already. but places like the north should remain white.

>Gen Z
>Red Pilled
Nah

These posters have never built anything, let alone a contest-winning rocket, but they want an all-white safe space.

Trump is the fucking man
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Your ID sounds like a condition

Hey OP. Can you just come out and say you don't like white people?
Say it. Say you don't like the fact that white people want to live among their own.
Say you don't want white countrires to exist.

I want to see you ID type this out.
Tell the truth, stop obfuscating the issue, stop hiding behind this civic cuck meme.

Preserving the white race doesn't mean alienating all the non-whites, dipshit. People are naturally attracted to their own kind, so as long as the media doesn't promote race-mixing the white race will survive and will be able to peacefully coexist with non-whites.

You don't seem to understand what civic nationalism is at all.

It's not "let in the minorities!", I want the immigration clamped down too and have been calling for a border wall since Bush attempted amnesty, 10 years before Trump came along.

Civic nationalism is a dual pronged approach at bifurcating the leftists minorities block with nationalism and at the same time removing the white guilt mental dilemma that caused the US to drop from 90%+ White in the first place.

Trump has put the leftists on a cliff because they bet everything on identity politics and still lost. If that card can be taken away from them, the competition between the parties becomes a purely economic debate, which they can't win at, hence their reliance on identity politics.

In the end, civic nationalism is the only way to ensure a white majority, you go out there and yell at white people about white genocide and they don't do anything. They've been staring minority status in the face for decades and haven't budged at all. They're far too cucked by white guilt. Without solving that, there is no hope of saving the US.

ENDLESS DESAHT WORFARE ARE THA NEW COUNTAH COULCHA

>digits that speak
hail victory brother.

Stormfags need to fuck off.

This

My grandpa used to fight nawtzees!

What's inherently wrong with any of those arguments?

I expect an actual, well thought-out reply.

Implying nether the left or the right want to help american.

You realize politics are an ongoing thing. To be successful you must always be running for office, even in the off years.

There's also the fact that full-blown National Socialism is a retarded ideology that simply won't appeal to normies at all. Civic nationalism is something people can and will get behind, and it's definitely working.

you fucking retard, i fucking hate all of you who think like this
>FUCK NIGGERS AND KIKES KILL THEM ALL 1488
you realize ethnic cleansing is no more than a fucking pipe dream nowadays? do you really think we're gonna get nazi germany 2.0 all of sudden, after years of being cucked by jews? all we need is for white preservation to be accepted and for race mixing to stop being promoted by jews, I could give two shits if people racemix or not as long as white people keep having kids, people breed with their own kind by nature anyways, the only reason there is so much racemixing is because of kikes promoting it and promoting white hate
civic nationalism is literally the only chance we have but of course you stormfags have to behave like children

You cannot out-sneak the Jews. You cannot convince non-whites to vote non-tribally.
The "Economic argument"?? The democrats demolish you on that, they're GIVING them free money taken from mostly white taxpayers.

The other MAJOR concern is the lack of criticism for Trumps actions that are totally anti-white or anti-nationalist. I'm still willing to give it a 5% he's secretly redpilled or whatever, and that he's going for the long con, but WHAT IF HE'S NOT?? When will you pull the plug and admit that he's co-opted by the (((neo-cons))) IF that undeniably proves to be true, where is your red line??

>Amnesty/no wall?
>Another foreign war/boots on the ground?
>Large debt increases?

When do we stop "sneaking/getting support" and when do we start fixing the goddamn country?

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If you shitpost "stormfags get out this is a pede board now XDDD"
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Yes, there is a semi sizeable portion of autism here that wants nothing less of an American Reich , with all the lampshades and gas chamber , and anyone else not on board is
>leftist
>shill
>Cuck
There's no middle ground for them.

>mfw next generation is extraordinarily more right wing than both mine and the previous generation
>mfw my generation is going to be the one that desperately tries to destroy that generation's chance at having any influence at all

No we want a white nation, fuck off with your kikey lampshade bullshit. Nonwhites get deported. Only a hook nose would get his dick hard thinking of how to exterminate people. Go ride your Ovencoaster™ elsewhere

things change. 50 years ago most of what the left stands for today would've never been accepted. but they fought for what they wanted, took over the institutions, and look at all the things they accomplished. and notice that leftists, even moderate ones, do not punch to the left. but righties attack each other all the time, it's a big reason why we've had trouble holding left wing advances back.

trump is a good start. but if your long term goal is preserving the status quo but being nicer to white people then you may as well go vote for democrats. because in the end, conservatism and liberalism will lead to the same end result, a non-white country.

if you told some white man in the 1950s that men in dresses would be going to the bathroom with his daughter, or that homosexuals would be openly praised and have the ability to marry he would've never believed you.

I hate to say this, America is already at 60-40 and unless we get to deporting beaners we are going to be far worse off. Civic nationalism might be the best bet America has, Europe still has a chance and needs to go full ethnostate.

If we do civic nationalism short term in the US and stop 3rd worlders from coming to the US we can raise immigration from Ethnostate Europe to help raise the white US populace.

And yet the Jews couldn't convince non-whites to vote more tribally either.

Identity politics has come to an end. If you still want to play that game, you're just asking for doom.

The country as a whole right now is has a crisis of identity. The first ones to fill that void will be determine the future.

>you fucking retard, you'll never preserve your people, may as well accept your country becoming another mexico, hey, at least you can still post memes and make fun of SJWs!

we aren't getting any ethnic cleansing or nazi germany, i get that. i wouldn't want that anyways, just a spare bit of land for us to exist on in north america. that would be fine by me.

as for mixing, i'd say the latin american experiment has thus far proved a failure. trying again probably won't yield much more success, regardless of our constitution (which we can't even agree on what it means nowadays anyway)

you are assuming everyone wants the same thing you want. also the pic you posted is stupid. of course if you count white women and minorities they will make up the majority of the trump coalition because there are more of them total than white men! hell, there are more white women voters alone than white men.

that's like saying mexicans make up the majority of trump supporters in el paso, no shit, they are the most predominant race there.

Imagine if in theory Trump is /ourguy/ and is actively trying to take down the hooked nosed bastards ruining our earth.

Israel could nuke the ENTIRE PLANET if ANYONE so much as rocks the boat. You have to literally play 1488d chess to get anything done.

The tide doesn't seem to be shifting that way though. Mainstream "conservatives", who coincidentally seem to be taking control of the culture war, are starting to become more accepting of homosexuality and transgenders. In a sense the Trump conservatives are what liberals used to be.

And from what I've seen, moderate leftists DO punch left. Often, actually. Look at people like Dave Rubin and Phillip DeFranco. Even Reddit, a site that's become infamous for its liberal bias, has several anti-SJW subs that circulate the front page on a regular basis.

also identity politics is a product of diversity. people crave identity, it is very important to them.

american as a term has become meaningless. anyone can be an american, it has lost it's special meaning due to the mass waves of immigration. what used to be a western nation is now a global nation.

when you have such a broad identity, expect smaller identities to form. people like to distinguish themselves.

so in order to save conservatism, we must become more liberal. that is what has happened the past 50 years. i guess when you are part of an ideology that continually gives up, that is all you know how to do. no wonder you support civic nationalism, civic nationalism is mostly left wing principles with an exception on perhaps gun rights and illegal immigration.

and folks like dave rubin have a very small voice when it comes to the general left. most moderates are not out there with dave rubin protesting against SJWs, they could care less. they'll still show up to vote dem and that's all that matters.

Your argument is invalid because it's completely based in rhetoric and not basic math.

With the same minority turnout that Obama got, Trump could not have won. With this in mind, the worldwide media yelled for 2 years that the man was Hitler. You saw CNN crowing about a 'Brown wall'. You dismiss those numbers idiotically, whereas a leftist seeing those before the election would've shat their pants. No one was predicting that Trump wouldn't lose a single minority compared to Romney.

And not only that, no minority turned out against him. We have the data now, it's clear as day, minorities either stayed home or in the case of the Blacks, collapsed, even after Obama debased himself yelling about his legacy. Whether you like it or not, Trump ran as a civic nationalist, and civic nationalism worked and WON. Identity politics has come to a head.

I'm tired of this utter nonsense, white supremacists only win in their own minds, they've accomplished nothing and have repulsed their own race towards its doom. Show supporting data or fuck off.

The various policies of left and right are becoming increasingly irrelevant. Immigration must be controlled IMMEDIATELY, there's only one party that's willing to do it and there's only one way of taking control of that party and forcing this issue. And it's not yelling about white power.

FUCKING BASED

LE REDPILLED BLACK MAGAPEDE

It's not giving up, it's making accommodations. Feel free to provide me with counter-arguments, but I don't see how things like racial equality and LGBT acceptance can't exist within the bounds of mainstream conservatism. If anything, it just creates more potential allies. Black Pigeon Speaks has a good video on this very topic. I truly think we've reached the boundary with regards to how "liberal" we can get, however.

Also, about the moderate left, need I remind you of the 20% of Obama voters who voted Trump?

You consider winning 8% of the black vote, 29% of the latino vote, and 27% of the asian vote winning? Sure it is good enough for today because there are enough whites around. However if you replay those numbers in 2020 there's a good chance we lose.

And of course Trump did better among minorities than Romney. Obama wasn't on the ticket (he was a big inspiration to get blacks out to vote), and Hillary had a lot of corruption, which probably depressed some of her turnout.

Looking at numbers without looking at the various reasons behind them will get you nowhere. You are playing this "minorities are natural conservatives" canard in your head, which has statistically been proven false election after election.

my counter argument is that these things are not conservative. why should i support non-conservative policies under a conservative label? if you are going to push liberal policies under a conservative label, we are still getting liberal policies and the country moves further leftward.

what do you even wish to accomplish? it seems like you want more left wing bullshit just without the SJWs involved.

also those moderate leftists who voted trump were probably working class union guys or blue collar folks out of a job. you saw a lot of these swings in ohio, michigan, and iowa, which consequently saw a lot of economic downturn over the past few years.

White Supremacists gave us Stormfags and Spencer and civic nationalism gave us Congress and Trump.

Pretty clearly one is working better than the other.

In the beginning, not even the white race was given a place, it was carved out. As an asian white nationalist sympathizer, I understand that I may not belong in America, but I will do the same as has been done over and over again; I will carve out a place for myself. If I am unable to, then my children will, and if not my children, then the rest of my family will. The entropy of the universe threatens to consume us all, but instead I will consume it, and anyone should strive for the same. It just happens that the group of people who understand this struggle the most are white nationalists, and I hope to be allies who share the same destiny, but I understand that we may become enemies.

Hail victory.

>when you see it

>white guilt mental dilemma that caused the US to drop from 90%+ White in the first place
white guilt had nothing to do with the corporate desire for lower wages.

lol at minority turnout being shit against fucking trump after 2 years of "dats raycist" campaign.


so not only did the democrat's anti-white-male campaign destroy their working class white vote they banked on since fucking FDR; it didn't even win them the minorities.

jesus, they failed so bad...

>it's okay if we turn into niggers but only if it's done legally

Hi. I hail from an Mestizo/Hispanic and catholic country and I want to make this very very clear for you:

HISPANICS
WILL ALWAYS
VOTE FOR
WELFARE STATE
AND
OPEN BORDERS

Unless you kick out the millions you already have (and their children) within a generation or two, no candidate that isn't basically a democrat will ever win an election in your country.
Maybe with a military dictatorship of some sort.
But even then it'll begin to sway back to neo-liberal-neo-socialism within a generation. Look at Chile, 30 years passed since Pinochet gave up power and now they are turning into lefties again. They learned nothing.

You cannot beat mestizo-Hispanic genetics with ideology.
You cannot beat mestizo-Catholicism with ideology.

You need go full 14/88 before 2050 or you are done, you are over, welcome to Argentina buddy. That's your future in the best case scenario. In the worst: Brazil.

Its too late for us.
Its not too late for you or Europe.

Didn't Trump get a fairly large portion of the Hispanic vote?

Civic nationalism and all that other stuff you love are products of Western or European culture you can't have European culture without European people. Enjoy your English speaking Brazil

He got 35% same as every other republican candidate. Probably because those are the White hispanics who don't want the US to turn into Brazil.

Whites are the only group that vote republican. For every 3 Hispanics that enter the US the dems get 1 vote. THAT is the problem. We need to stop nonwhites coming in and send the ones already here back including anchor babies which are only here because of a a 1980's court case which could be overturned. This is the only way for republicans to win going forward. Trump flipped MI, PA and WN by like 30k votes. Beaners reaching adulthood will easily overtake that number in eight years if not four, especially as older whites die off.

I can't see what's funny

This isn't and will never be funny.

Making fun of civicucks like yourself is funny. Bullyciding is an act of love.
It's a jew-nose

...We elected Trump. Do you really think we didn't know? Even so, they didn't turn out against him.

Also, Pinochet was a moron and you were never White anyway. lol, Falklands.

The Republican party will always be majority white, but you can't win without solid minority margins. I'm not arguing for more immigration or amnesty, I'm saying Trump has shown us the way forward to campaign and you faggots want to go back to the old models where you lost every time. You idiots are as good as leftists.

Again, either show math or GTFO.

lol Stormfags

Civic nationalism not only works... It's absolutely devastating to the left. A paradigm shift has occurred and the faggots on both sides are trying to fight the old wars.

Leafs giving anyone political advice...

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None of those graphs are enough to offset white people being 40% or eventually 30% of the population.

That's being taken care of, but it'll take a while.

The true recovery won't take off until the burden of the Boomer hippies is finally excised from the Earth.

>Feel free to provide me with counter-arguments, but I don't see how things like racial equality and LGBT acceptance can't exist within the bounds of mainstream conservatism.
Because it's not CONSERVING anything when you change stuff

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I just don't get how you don't understand this, conservatism is about CONSERVING the status quo, not progressing. Back to the family, back to a white America that made all of this possible. If you start fucking changing everything and accept faggots and trannies then what makes everything else not liable for change, oh look you find yourself in progessive liberalism again

Generation z coming to rid us of millenials

And dems have definitely lost part of millennials forever.

Hard times create strong men.
Strong men create good times.
Good times create weak men.
Weak men create hard times.

The cycle is simply falling it's normal course

>A 2016 U.S. study found that church attendance during young adulthood was 41% among Generation Z, compared with 18 percent for Millennials at the same ages, 21 percent of Generation X, and 26 percent of baby boomers.

You're acting as if the acceptance of homosexuality and non-white races that exist peacefully alongside white America will somehow undermine the white family unit. If we discourage race-mixing and homosexuality but not leave the latter completely out of the question, we may just be able to coexist peacefully without damaging white society. And homosexuality definitely isn't something that's going away.

LE CIVIC NATIONALISM XDDD SO MUCH FUN LOOK HOW THESE MUSLIMS NIGERIAN NIGGERS INTEGRATE XDDD

>In 2013, 66% of teenagers (older members of Generation Z) had tried alcohol, down from 82% in 1991. Also in 2013, 8% of Gen. Z teenagers never or rarely wear a seat belt when riding in a car with someone else, as opposed to 26% in 1991.

not an argument

Also nobody likes muslims.

Teens are being pushed to Sup Forums and shit by:
>gamergate
>annoying nigs
>sjw ruin their shit

They see liberals as the esablisment and want to resist

thats just how I see it.

This is your future.

I mean, it's the future Whites gave us.