Sup Forums will defend this

Sup Forums will defend this.

>BUT BUT BUT I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH LEGAL IMMIGRATION!!!!

Yes goy! Immigrants are good!!

>curb legal immigration
>legal immigration
>legal

I don't think most of his supporters care/cared about that.
There are enough illegals to worry about, and the wall to be built.

I won't defend this, but /ptg/ and r/the_donald might

The legal migrants are voting liberal as well, friend. But, I guess those cuckservative tendencies are hard to kill in the right, so Trump is probably the best we got.

We'll keep welcoming in people until we are a small minority, and then expect a minority to assimilate the majority peoples. But it won't happen, the whites will just give up and live in gated communities like they do in Mexico.

How'd he backslide on it? I haven't been following. I thought he signed some EOs to help with the H1B problem and he was being cucked by traitor judges when it came to refugees. Isn't "legal immigration" something set by Congress? Trump cant repeal Hart Celler by himself.

Border crossings down 76%, I'm not complaining.

If the legal immigrants aren't from Europe you should care.

increasing immigration of whites from europe would be fantastic.

>il
You dropped this

where did he say he wanted legal immigration to stop?

This is a good point, perhaps we are too far gone but it was a nice effort on Trump's part.

Maybe we just need to accept the fact that America will one day find itself more in line with Latin America than the West. If we get more conservative judges nominated we could probably stave off the leftist assault for at least another generation. By then, maybe more minorities will join the Republican Party and vote to reduce legal migration.

gotta keep the ponzi...i mean economy growing

>1 post by this ID

Got you fuckers are stupid as shit. Sage.

>And they need to speak English as a first language. I'm sick of hearing yabba dabba doo everywhere I turn. This is America. Assimilate or GoTF back where ya came from.

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>legal
Nobody cared about that

You have to understand, American general morality is somewhat to the left. Even most right wingers are heavily impacted by liberal morality. Most Americans will decry racism and we still like to think of ourselves as a nation where anyone can come here and succeed if they work hard.

Maybe we are just too individualistic for nationalism to catch on? At least in a racial standpoint. I figure America will always be a destination for immigrants from around the world (especially the developing world now), as long as we are an advanced nation.

As long as there are those who attempt to divide us, we are going to have a hard time establishing a national identity, particularly when so many cultures coexist here and might feel more authentic to the immigrant. American culture has to improve itself to be more than negro sports, fast food, and porn if we want real assimilation. That's going to take work on our end, rebuilding the greatness we once had. And most importantly, allowing local cultures to flourish over national cultures.

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>I don't think most of his supporters care/cared about that.

Legal vs illegal makes no difference to me.

I want them gone.

Bullshit we are. Who the fuck you think the silent majority are composed of ese?

nice get, checked

>a nation where anyone can come here and succeed if they work hard.
the problem is that meritocracy is a direct result of our European moral code. as both parties become more duplicitous, you see more inequality, more hypocrisy, and more degeneracy.

>Maybe we are just too individualistic for nationalism to catch on?
People's backs are against the wall. Look at Trump--no morals, no principles yet he's an authoritarian strongman outsider, and I think a lot of people really would risk a chance of being "good germans" as long as the the republic and the rule of law were restored. the left has no problem pushing a more and more collectivist agenda. They are shitting on "white men" and American history constantly, and they have created a uniform minority group named POC, which pretty soon will outnumber whites. this is just as likely to lead to death camps, but we will be the ones in the camps.

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I think the silent majority is mostly whites with a few conservative nonwhites mixed in. That having been said, I do believe we have the political wherewithal to get rid of illegals, that seems to be what people want.

But it is very hard to kill off the American legend, that we are a nation of immigrants and anyone can come here to succeed if they work hard. Most right wingers aren't interested in keeping America white, I'd argue white identity is probably last on their mind. Most whites identify more with non-whites living in their states and rooting for the same sports team as their own over another white person living in another state or region.

Southern whites are a great example of this. They are perhaps the most conservative people in America, and yet they would put their own blacks above whites from say New York or Maine. Because those blacks, despite the racial differences, are fellow Southerners.

B-but CNN said no immigrants liked him D=

>Bullshit we are.
Lol, I'd like to see the voting pattern of immigrants in the US, but I don't need to, I already know what it looks like.

Legal immigration is a massive issue, I think it can definitely be argued against it by warning of the oncoming automation that will put low skilled labor (which we actively import) out of jobs, creating a large mass of unemployed wage slaves for the large corporations to exploit. Population density is also a large factor contributing to healthy social life. It doesn't always have to be a race issue, and cuckservatives are more open to such issues. It seems people will import naggers and spics so long as the DOW is up!

I don't think whites would end up in death camps, because minorities, believe it or not, are not entirely united. Sure, they may be united now in support of the Democratic Party, but once whites become a minority I think you will see Asians, Hapas, Latinos, Castizos, Negros, Mulattoes, pick their identities and go with that, while excluding others. You see this in Latin America.

Whites will always have some power in America, just like we have in Latin America. The Mexican ruling class is mostly white, the American ruling class would probably be similar even if we became a tiny minority. The people who lose out though will be working class whites, but even they aren't necessarily hostile to minorities. They just want a society that is fair to them, and the current economic conditions have been proven to not be in their favor.

We still have a lot of room in America, and unfortunately there are people here who are fine living like ants (see your average urbanite for starters).

I think we agree on one thing, as long as we are a prosperous, advanced nation, we will receive immigrants. If that ever stops, then immigration will greatly recede or stop, depending on if there are other quality nations close.

Hes a Russian plant
Putin wants more Mexicans i guess

obvious shill is obvious

Who's Sup Forums? Me? I'm poasting in this roll bread now. Why you gotta assume like a faggot that I suck ZOGpuppet cock? Fuck that fat greasy Cheeto-dusted astroturf-scalp motherfucker.

Yeah, besides the occasional "kill Whitey" protest like you get in South Africa I don't think there will be massive hunts for Whitey, although the vindictiveness of minorities isn't to be questioned. Many bad hombres!

>We still have a lot of room in America
We should keep it like that. When I look on the Mississippi or mountains here in Arizona the last thing I want is more people. Population density and diversity is a cause of many modern neuroses, no point in exasperating our current problems by adding more diversity and larger population. Luckily even the spics seem to stop having as many children once they get a full dose of "American" culture.

>I think we agree on one thing, as long as we are a prosperous, advanced nation, we will receive immigrants. If that ever stops, then immigration will greatly recede or stop, depending on if there are other quality nations close.

We are the only "quality nation" and will remain the only quality nation even as our cities and liberal states like California fall into third world Mexican status, to the whole of South America, so we need to enforce the laws and say no to these people. We literally don't need them, they don't add anything in net benefits.

>The legal migrants are voting liberal as well
I don't know about others, but the news channels here said before the election that according to their surveys, most romanians in the US voted for Trump.

Actually, both Pupin and Drankf are international kike mafia plants, you goddamned faggotbrained cretin

>0.1 cents has been added to your account
ok Vladamir

Romanians are a minority of immigrants, but thanks for the support of your expatriates. Most immigrants we get are spics. Lots of Muslims too, I also see niggers in the city where I live. It's a very diverse place. Sad!

I agree with you that legal immigration should be reduced, my point is that it is not likely to happen, or at least go down to the level that would be good for us.

Americans still have this sense of pride behind being immigrants, and many still feel that good people outside America should have opportunities to come here and succeed. I wish we were more nationalist but I guess you have to take it a step at a time.

You mention mestizos having their birth rates decline once here, that is true. The problem has never been birth rates. America's birthrate as a whole has been at or below replacement since the pill. That will probably continue. The growth is in immigration, and unfortunately with the national story on immigrants being as strong as it is, I feel even conservatives don't want to completely close the door.

I don't think places like Arizona will become too packed, you'll still have room due to congregation in the cities, but I do believe it will continue to be one of the bigger destinations since the West seems to be doing so well.

That may be true. Romanians however are Europeans, and European Americans as a whole tend to vote more conservatively than other groups.

I wish we had more of your people and less of the Chinese, Indians, and Mexicans. But they never ask me when writing immigration policy so I expect us to continue to heavily draw from Asia and Latin America with probably additional migrants from Africa once that situation spirals out of control.

>because minorities, believe it or not, are not entirely united.
absolutely, I think it's pretty arrogant to think that all of these group interests align. but that's what the cultural elite believe--that they are useful tools. and if they can ally all of these groups by convincing them that whitey is the enemy, it's not going to be pretty. I can think of no other reason why they would be pushing white privilege so hard. what does this do to lift up any minority group?

South Africa is a special example because the country is still overwhelmingly black, and unified around that. The blacks nearly all vote for the same party, and carry a strong resentment for whites due to perceived injustice (even though the white migrants made the country a much better place than it would have ever been).

Outside of America (even here to some extent), tribalism is still strong. Enlightenment ideals aren't something you commonly find in the Dark Continent, and I doubt we will ever see it on display.

Fuck off, faggot

NC here have noticed as well as others much less mexicans around. not sure if just moved to others parts of state or another state or just laying low what but it is a grand improvement already here.

Oh, great! I can't wait to align with corrupt shitholes!

White privilege does nothing to minorities but serves as an excuse for failure (particularly for blacks).

Blacks have continued to fail since arriving here, and a lot of this is due to their average low IQ and higher preponderance for violent behavior. There are some exceptions to this rule but I believe in eight or nine of ten cases you'll find this to be true.

I do find it funny that Asians have latched onto white privilege, when in fact Asians as a whole are more privileged than whites are statistically, at least when we look at incomes and residences. I know you can't simplify it that easily, but Asians sadly enough are easily conformed, so once they get into college they soak up the Cultural Marxism like a sponge.

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>Legal immigration is a massive issue
they've done the same thing to immigration that they've done to spending--it keeps going up, but sometimes at a slower rate. it's absolutely insane. People need time to assimilate.

people who can afford to get here legally aren't usually on welfare
that's just speculation
you're just being a retard immigration isn't a bad thing. Abusing the system is.

You too? Can't any of you just stay the fuck out?

There is nothing wrong with immigrants. The most succesful countries are the ones with less white people while countries with 100% white people like Poland, Ukraine, Slovenia, Bosnia, etc. are all third world shitholes.

tl;dr I'm with Trump on this one, diversity makes us stronger not weaker.

Lmao, cucked again, trumplet trash

Watch as all the Confuse The Record shills at TRUMP Corp spam damage control like the good cucks they are

Scandinavia, UK, Ireland, and we were all fine before

This, if anything we should increase the amount of immigrants into europe and America.

I think your attitude is probably the most common on the right.

>Asians sadly enough are easily conformed
in the end, I believe it will be an entire Asian collective vs an entire Jewish collective vs whatever race-mix is left.

im not shareblue you shill faggot

Yeah, I think that we need to turn Trump's start into a movement that will outlast him, with 4 (or hopefully 8) years we will have enough time to shift the immigration debate to more than just illegal and change the Congressman from losers like Kasich and Graham to immigration restrictionists. How we must do that will be hard, but organizing in person, locally and such will be a part, sadly shitposting won't solve all our problems. You seem well spoken and smart, so I recommend you check out MPCdot.com user, it's basically the original "alt-right" think tank. There you can find ideas on how to start turning this into a permanent change.

pic related shows that the liberal states are slowly dying, and if only Republicans weren't born losers, we could easily outbreed them if we stopped importing minorities to fill their ranks. Overhauling the cucks and the corporate interests controlling the Republicans should be the goal of the next 8 years imo. We need to build on this White working class base, that isn't a slave to capitalism.

Yeah, 40 Million "Americans" are foreign born, it's nearly 15% of our population. It's insane, especially who we let in. Muslims? After 9/11? Figuratively, the sign of a suicidal nation.

unfortunately we don't actually have a lot of room in America. Most of the west is not arable, and the midwest is all farmland. Adding more people means more residential areas, which will encroach on farmland, which will require farmland to encroach on forests and other natural area. Legal immigration in the US is a major environmental issue. It's not just an issue of space

Perhaps Asians back on the continent will form a collective, sadly those here assimilate to whatever their college professor tells them.

Not to mention the high rates of exogamy means pretty soon the Eurasians could become as prominent as the Asian populations here.

Acording to a survey, votes from argies in the us went to trump by a small margin, looking for the link right now, the research said it probably was because argentines tend to try to assimilate into us mainstream culture than as a minority

*into America FROM Europe
ftfy

>Legal immigration in the US is a major environmental issue.
Yes, Ann Coulter had a chapter about this in Adios America, I think it's a good point to bring up when arguing with your average lib. It's also good that the conservative wing cares about the environment so that we aren't portrayed as oil barons clubbing baby seals for black gold.

If america is destined to become a multiracial third world nation then i have no desire to try and make it a better place for the foreigners coming here

>all these stormfront shills trying to make conservatives look bad

top kek how does it feel knowing your grandchildren will be brown?

>Muh one post

>Romanians
"Minority" in the USA means non-white. I know we don't consider you white, but the news and Liberals sure do because otherwise they'd have to support you.

>Breitbart
He always was for legal immigration, you dumb fucks.
He never said he would curb legal immigration.

Aside from stormfront fags, i think most americans don't hate immigration per se, but they are fucking tired of people who go there and don't respect the law of the land, or demand being treated different because of a suposed opression that they themselves never felt

Eh fuck you nigger
Im an immigrant and I vote repub / libertarian.

Though I live in NY so my vote doesn't count for shit
>Feels bad man

European morality and civility dies with us, kike. How does it feel knowing your grandchildren will be cannibals?

You are correct in that shifting the debate will take time. But I'm very impressed in what Trump has been able to do in only a year. Here you had a guy who a few years ago I believe was a complete blowhard, and yet when he launched his campaign he was the only one paying great attention to the issue of illegals and the wall.

That is very important to Americans, and I believe we definitely have the green light to clamp down on illegals and deport all we can. Americans believe in fair play, after all.

My hope is that we eventually get to the point of putting our people first, and feeling okay about doing it. We Americans are a very compassionate people. This is both good and bad, as it makes for a high trust society but allows us to be taken advantage of more easily. We need to start focusing on our poor here rather than globally, and I hope that attitudes continue to shift in our direction.

All of my grandparents were legal immigrants so idc

The Merit Based Immigration thing mentioned in the article will replace the Hart-Celler act. Making it easier for Europeans to move here. If whites become a minority I'm leaving this nation and moving to Poland once they fight off the EU.

FUGGGGG

There are immigrants who vote Republican, I never said they are all Democratic. But I remember reading something like 7 out of 10 legal migrants go on to vote Democratic, it is an insanely high number.

Like you said, you may be Republican but living in a global city like NYC, your vote doesn't count against all the others.

Minorities will never vote Republican in the majority. The ones that do vote are mostly elderly. Once we are minority they will actively try to genocide us like in South Africa.

Legal immigration is a bigger problem. There are more people coming here legally than illegally. The legal immigrants are usually smarter and have more money which might lead to a small economic boost but they end up marrying whites. The mexican who hopped the fence is far less likely to marry your daughter than the nigerian doctor is.

I understand that feeling. And I do think that if whites continue to decline we will see a growth of third world conditions. We already see this in a sense in majority black areas, and in some majority mestizo areas. Asians tend to do fine, but unfortunately three quarters of them are voting for the liberals, so that makes them a problem in their own right.

Whites are always going to have some power though. Unfortunately it is the white elites, and the working class gets screwed through this.

Asians themselves have many problems, just because they have high IQ doesn't mean they are model citizens who understand the concept of what America means. Many Asians (especially Chinese) are notorious cheaters. Not even going to mention the disgusting sub-race known as the Indian. (at work yesterday I saw 4 Indians about 5 feet tall, they had massive noses, I'm talking noses that would make a Jew blush)
>mfw this Indian boy had a massive nose + he had some disgusting pustules which made his nose even larger
Made me want to puke.

Would love to see that desu.

Yeah, Trump's contrast to the feckless losers like Romney is astounding, he's proof that all we needed was fighter willing to stick it to the media and libs. The way he shifted the debate in 2 years is amazing, naturally we still have work to do, but after 4 (8) years, the Overton glass ceiling will be shattered. user, make sure to check out MPC, I know I'm shilling it, but it's seriously the next step for intelligent analysis of current politics..

Again, I don't think you can compare America and South Africa.

South Africa was majority black, and they tended to agree with each other about most issues, see their support of the ANC. But in America, while minorities may vote together they often have different interests. I don't see Hispanics and Asians teaming up with blacks to cut our heads off. If anything, once whites are the minority you no longer have one dominant race in America so everyone competes against each other.

well of course
I'm an immigrant, I'm no beaner but clearly as long as we're being productive and not a drain then what's the issue.
people tend to forget that there are still tons of white people abusing welfare too but its hard to convince people of that, we also cant kick them out.

When the fuck did Trump ever say anything about curbing legal immigration? Is Breitbart turning on him?

So I actually read the article and it's based on a gotcha-question during an interview with (((The Economist))), which has gone ULTRAJEW in the past few years.

That said, we need to hold the feet of the administration and Congress and everyone else to the fire on immigration (legal and illegal). That's the only issue that matters.

Do you Civic Nationalist cucks do anything but actively support your own country becoming minority majority? Whites are often discriminated when they're minorities. When we are the minority the non-whites will try their damn hardest to remove us from everything. South Africa was just like that and will happen to us if we don't stop.

>Everyone competes against each other

Explain how that's generally a good thing? We were founded as a white majority country and should stay that way. Trump even said in the article that the Merit Based System that would favor white immigrants and maybe even the RAISE act would replace the Hart-Celler act. Trust me there's no benefit of being minority majority. Most non-whites in America always vote Democrat and will likely stay that way. The only consverative non-whites are older and are going to die pretty soon because of old age. The only ones who will remain are the ones who want us gone. America should not be like South America. We are far different to them and should stay that way. Limiting immigration from the Third World is a great thing. Most of our current immigrants don't even like this country. Why invite more Anti-Americans? There's no point whatsoever. That's why Trump supporting the RAISE act could save us and prevent us from becoming the next Brazil. Because face it, No American Patriot other then Civiccucks who believe in the Based minoritiy meme want that.

our immigration laws are fine. we let in a slow trickle of middle class professionals who have a positive view of the nation and want to work. just 1 family at a time and they assimilate quickly. few have a problem with this.

importing hordes of unskilled 3rd world rabble that form entire communities and never assimilate and immediately start demanding rights is completely different.

then having to deal with the rabid gaslighting from slimy leftists makes it even more frustrating

You should care if you're white. There's no America without a clear white majority.

they just need something to complain about.

Things are running well with Trump.

>people who can afford to get here legally aren't usually on welfare
>that's just speculation

There are statistics which prove the opposite.

There are many issues that are brought in by immigrants, (including Whites) such as a large rootless population, overpopulation as I mentioned up thread, the environmental impact. Than you have the immeasurable decrease in social capital that comes with diversity. These things are hard to swallow, especially for an immigrant. I myself am a rootless quasi-migrant, so I understand if you don't like what you hear.

>Explain how that's generally a good thing?

He never said that was a good thing, you are basically trying to purity spiral, read his other posts before making baseless accusations of civic nationalism cuckery. America will not accept White Nationalism no matter how hard it's pushed overtly, affected US politics is much more nuanced, and Donald Trump is an excellent example of how you make big change in short time.

>our immigration laws are fine
Lol, tell that to all the Muslim trash-bag bitches who stand in the welfare line. The amount of Somali niggers and the like I see in my city is enough to stop all immigration in my opinion, no point in taking chances when that's a possibility.

I'm not a civic nationalist by any means. I don't cream my pants over negroes or mestizos who agree with me. But I'm a realist. At this point in time we have a green light to take on illegal immigration and possibly have a wall as added protection.

But as far as legal immigration, I feel we are still going to draw heavily from Asia, Latin America, and possibly Africa. There will be some Europeans, but skills based does not mean white. Canada has skills based immigration and their white percentage has dropped substantially over the past two decades alone.

Believe me, I'd love to have our old 90% white, 1950s America back. But something like that probably isn't even wanted by most whites. And if they don't want it, how are we going to get it?

Have a bunch of Argie and Brazilian friends from UF. All voted Trump because they hate pandering.

it was legal muslim immigration we wanted to curb. Safe zones in syira was a promise. Saudi and qatar pay for the safe zones mexico pays for the wall america supplys the muscle and keeps the chink flys away

>implying legal immigration dont have illegal immigrants

Are immigration laws are horrible. We deny most whites access to moving here but yet import 1 million people from the third world each year. If anything it will destroy our country in the long run. Trump needs to implement his merit Based Immigration proposal and the RAISE act in order to combat this. That way immigrantion would limit to whites and Asians at the most.

Australia does have skills immigration as well and they still get tons of whites. Canada still gets non-whites because of Eliot Trudeau limiting immigration from Europe back in the 80s. If anything Merit Based Immigration would make it harder for Latin America and Africa.

I agree with you. Honestly, I tend to have bigger problems with seeing so many Asians than I do with your average negro. I know that sounds crazy, but the negroes at least have claim to the country, the Asians are mostly Hart-Cellar Americans. Unfortunately a lot of them want to move here so I expect to see more coming in for the time being. [For the record, I don't want any African migration either, and I hope we keep that number low as we historically have.]

I will be sure and check out MPC, you definitely think about these issues at a much deeper level and it's been good talking with you.

>Muh Based minorities

No fuck you and your friends, Minority Majority hood will not save our country, it will destroy it. The newest immigrants we get are the most America hating groups in the whole country.

legal immigrant here, voted brexit and Trump.
You're welcome.

You white bongbro? What state are you from?

>merit-based
America will be white again lads

that's fine
I just do my best to be a positive impact. This is after all, the land of opportunity. I'll probably stay here until I can get a degree in Computer Engineering. It's a little too expensive where I live. I'll end up going back some day.

they are here because of leftists abusing refugee policy to inject cities with more idiot lifetime dem voters. thats not standard immigration policy tho

Pretty much, Canada only gets non-whites because back when Eliot Treudau was president. He limited immigration from Europe. Australia has Merit immigration as well and still gets loads of Europeans.

Believe me user, I'd love all our immigration to be white, but that just isn't realistic. If Trump proposed that you'd just get more protests and riots. And I doubt the GOP would even promote that, unfortunately there are a lot of cucks still in the party (Paul Ryan and Juan McCain, for starters).

Even with white immigration we have to be careful. Who are we getting? Are we getting good conservatives who would assimilate, or just more white liberals who will end up settling in Portland or Seattle? Things aren't just that simple.

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