Why aren't there any frequency of documentaries and shows based on the Jonestown Massacre?
What few times it's referenced, it's made out like it was an extreme religious cult, instead of a radical leftist cult that used Christianity to indoctrinate people in to Marxism and then kill themselves in protest of an unfair world.
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Except that's not what happened at all. Jesus. Take a fucking break from Sup Forums for a while.
Jim Jones did nothing wrong.
>radical leftist
KYS
There's at least 5 different documentaries on Youtube alone.
Sup Forums is an elaborate false flag operation by leftists to make rightwings look like retards.
>extreme religious cult
>used Christianity to indoctrinate people
totally different to the Sup Forumstard brainwash victim
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except that what was happened. It originally started as a church with hints of Marxism, but then he realized he could do anything he wanted because over half his congregation was uneducated blacks. Then he dropped the religion part, proclaimed himself an atheist and there was no going back after that.
>Then he dropped the religion part, proclaimed himself an atheist
No, he didn't.
Rev Jim was BASED and /fa/ as fuck
I own this Integrity shirt but I've never worn it in public.
The Sacrament was a good movie, even though it was basically just "When VICE Docs Go Wrong!: CULT SPECIAL"
Oh what in the fuck are you on about
Jim Jones was CIA
>extreme religious cult
>cult that used Christianity
Are you simple boy?
why aren't there any movies that show the japanse boming pearl harbor as a result of liberalism and obama? because that's what really happened
David Koresh was killed and the ATF burned men, women and children alive. Sure.
but as far as cults go the Jim Jones thing was legit. The people people that survived it can confirm that it was.
this, it literally was leo ryans fault for sticking his fat face where it didnt belong
Nobody would know who that is
I'd like to make a black comedy about this. I mean, it would be both blackly comedic and about the joke that is black people.
what's some cult leader kino?
I'm just dissapointed that shit like WACO and Oklahoma City bombing aren't taught every day in our public schools to show how shit of an ideology the right is.
Re educate the children
There was one on Reels channel literally yesterday. Also they usually mention the marxism and his involvement with marxist leaders in those documentaries.
>en.wikipedia.org
>She stated that, as early as age 18 when he watched his idol Mao Zedong defeat the Nationalists in the Chinese Civil War, Jones realized that the way to achieve social change in the United States was to mobilize people through religion.[21] She admitted that "Jim used religion to try to get some people out of the opiate of religion" and had slammed the Bible on the table yelling, "I've got to destroy this paper idol!"[21]
Those homies have been riding a comet since 1997.
From the same notes on the bottom of the page.
> The Temple openly preached to established members that "religion is an opiate to the people." (Jones, Jim. "Transcript of Recovered FBI tape Q 1053." Alternative Considerations of Jonestown and Peoples Temple. Jonestown Project: San Diego State University.) Accordingly, "those who remained drugged with the opiate of religion had to be brought to enlightenment – socialism." (Layton 1999, page 53). In that regard, Jones also openly stated that he "took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism." (Jones, Jim. "Transcript of Recovered FBI tape Q 757." Alternative Considerations of Jonestown and Peoples Temple. Jonestown Project: San Diego State University). Jones often mixed those concepts, such as preaching that "If you're born in this church, this socialist revolution, you're not born in sin. If you're born in capitalist America, racist America, fascist America, then you're born with a big dildo in sin. But if you're born in socialism, you're not born in sin."(Jones, Jim. "Transcript of Recovered FBI tape Q 1053." Alternative Considerations of Jonestown and Peoples Temple. Jonestown Project: San Diego State University.) Archived February 13, 2011, at WebCite
I don't go on Sup Forums but having researched that whole thing a pretty good amount it was definitely, definitely about communism. You can listen to (or read) the death tapes yourself, jones called them communists. They tried to give millions to their "comrades" in the USSR during the suicide.
It was at one point a "religious" cult, but definitely turned into a marxist movement. hence the commune in the middle of the fucking jungle. maybe you should read into it yourself
yfw their website is still up
heavensgate.com
literally the first line on wikipedia
>James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was an American communist and cult leader.[1][2] Ordained as a Disciples of Christ pastor, Jones founded and led the radical leftist Peoples Temple, often described as having cult-like qualities.
dumb liberals acting like communism isnt a cult and a mental disorder
So he was using pseudo-religion to sell a pseudo-socialism which was actually religious in nature.
> a big dildo in sin
Literally what the fuck did he mean by this?
>Planet Earth About To Be Recycled
I always liked that phrase. It's 100% apocalyptic, but also friendly and doesn't made it sound all that bad.
Well this is the point, he was a raving lunatic who was no more a coherent socialist than a coherent pastor, but as he referred to concepts like sin and used his personal mystique to rule it as a cult, it's a cult, and thus ultimately more religious than political in nature. Anyone trying to debate Marxism with Jones would have got profanity-laced word salad in response.
I watched that whole tape a couple of times. Up to a point, it's very calming. The fact that he basically did it after flipping his lid when his girlfriend (yes, girlfriend) died is kinda romantic too.
except if you actually read about what happened in jonestown, you'd recognize that it was basically a north korea in the jungle. it was a microcosm of socialism at the time.
non-existent threats, jones blaring himself over a loudspeaker constantly, not allowed to leave, everyone worked for nothing, a few guards who threatened people with violence or death if they acted out
and this is completely ignoring the fact that jones himself said his end game was communism. it has the same results everywhere it's practiced. educate yourself
Jim Jones was a con-man obssessed with power. Back then, socialism was the way to reach young, easy to impress people that had money. Maybe today he'd start a Kek cult to con some NEETs.
Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple is fantastic.
Also yes, Jonestown was definitely a communist and believe it or not also an atheist. Although most of the church's members weren't atheists and he only started being open about that in Jonestown. You can listen to the sermons he did in Jonestown, it was 80% communism/far left ideology, 15% Jones rambling about how big his dick was and all the women he fucked, 5% religion.
Thank you, I've found my life's purpose
The resurgence of socialism/communism in the past 1-2 years is really grating
It's like 90% of reddit and 10% of Sup Forums went to first year uni and fell in love with Marxism, and the rest of us have to endure this cliche cycle that's been repeating since at least the 50s
Even his living children testify to the fact that he was a crazy psychotic leftist.
b-but it looks good on paper!
I learned about both of those before I ever learned about the Jonestown massacre. The media tries to cover the whole thing up.
timmy did nothing wrong
INJECTED WITH A POISON
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Yeah.
Almost as grating as the rise of white nationalism and populism.
Oh wait, only the latter two have gained power in recent years.
Outlast 2 was supposedly based on the Jonestown massacre, but goes all in on the "CHRISTIANS ARE CRAZY" thing instead of commies being crazy.
What the hell does that have to do with literally anything I said?
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White nationalism and populism gaining power was a direct response to leftists gaining power. The SJW movement started the whole thing, and the pendulum swung back hard.
but if we don't act like [the other] is the source of all of society's ills then its harder to rally the mob into a frenzy!
>he thinks there's a pendulum
All that's happening is political ideologies are being converted into mindless mobs so as to prevent them from ever being able to influence anything.
yes, when crazy people crown themselves supreme rulers, the end result is always the same.
Without referencing a Jewish plot, can someone tell me why 16-20 year olds think Marxism is the opposite of white nationalism
Eat shit cunt. You are the liberal. You are the one pathetically concerned about "muh gorillions of deaths". Kill yourself retard. Jim Jones, Lenin, and Mao live.
Pick up a book, real communism has never been implented, if it were society would never turn back.
Exactly how is authoritative fascism not the opposite of marxism?
white nationalists don't like communism because they know they'd be the first ones on the block.
Oh right, I forgot that you guys just label everyone who disagrees with you a Nazi
Well if you were quacking I'd call you a duck.
Nice dodge though.
Kill yourself you fucking libcuck
>mention communism
>MUH MAO
>MUH JOENS
>MUH STALIN
>mention socialism
>no one mentions hitler
>communism is evil because of muh deaths
you're the liberal you fucking retard
They are not exactly opposites but at the moment the kinds of people that subscribe to either ideology see each other as outgroups
What's your point friendo? Are you just trying to win an Internet argument or is there a sense to what you're espousing?
>Group A manipulates group B until group Ben learns how to manipulate group A
Literally the story of human history. A balance of competition and cooperation is what fuels progress.
>Sup Forums mods actually moving a thread
What the fuck
If you knew anything, you'd know that authoritarism has more than one form, and that Jones was far too incoherent to be defined as a Communist by the Jonestown era. He was nuts, period.
Soft core social engineering
I like how they moved the obvious off-topic Sup Forums bait thread instead of just deleting it.
So Atheism is a religion after all...
The way Jones used it, this was particularly the case. He may have thought he was leading them into atheism using religion, but there is no such route - atheism + religion = a cult.