Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Why does every communist society end in starvation?
Ryder Wilson
BASH
Nathaniel Gutierrez
You mean like tens of thousands Americans do yearly? Or are we still pretending this doesn't happen because it makes capitalism look bad?
Aiden Edwards
So where is "fascism" today outside of the internet?
Why would an honest leftist/communist/socialist support antifa when they are just puppets of neo liberals.
This "don't give fascists a platform" is just "stop liking what I don't like" and everything they don't like its "LITERALLY fascism"
Please if there are leftists out there I would like a response I am genuinely interested.
Brayden Lee
Not an argument I don't support antifa and it looks like you don't know what you're talking about so rest of the post discarded.
Joseph Diaz
Tbh one is just a few cases and the other ends in situations that can be classed as genocide.
Luke Robinson
Your helicopter is waiting Sergey.
Parker King
This thread is now about how Maoism-Third Worldists are garbage and should be first to be thrown into gulag.
Gavin Collins
I find it amusing that you right wing larpers use "helicopter ride" meme when Pinochet threw absolutely nobody out of helicopter. And that Pinochet was a failure.
Matthew Barnes
>Not an argument
it was a question...
Why are leftists so confrontational? If you're coming here looking for a flame war you're not going far
Brody Scott
the only ones that support communism are the ones that have never experience it and the ones that are puppets of the goverment and are souless fucks
Jaxson Jones
You were assuming I was antifa supporting SJW, you don't deserve proper answer. Here's a protip: /leftypol/ hates SJWs
Joseph Cruz
ye well fash are a bunch of doo doo pee pee heads so there.
Jaxon Adams
>Wants to talk about failure >Considers himself a communist Really sizzles my bacon.
Julian Collins
Stalin did not kill enough desu
Aaron Hughes
Brocialists get gulag too.
Ryder Lopez
>People starving in the US You're kidding, right? Even the poor people here are fat. The only starvation in self-induced by teenage girls.
I'm genuinely curious why every communist country seems to go through a starvation phase despite having fertile land and farmers.
Christian Evans
>Finnish flag fucking impostor get this capitalist spy out of here
Cooper Nelson
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Jackson Peterson
This is the same finn that joins the Spanish OP communism generals, I guess you took over being OP?
Gabriel Hall
>I consider myself a communist But I don't I consider myself a Marxist-Leninist socialist.
Charles Fisher
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Andrew Ortiz
Literally kill yourselves, all of you.
Jaxson Cooper
T. Cuban here. Still support socialism. GrandParents fled because mean old fidel took their plantation that was used to support the corrupt batista. I tell them every day it was justified when they try to argue
Levi Morales
It doesn't. Yugoslavia didn't starve. Seychelles didn't. Rojava doesn't. Even East Germany wasn't starving.
Jacob Martinez
N-never been dun befo.
Grayson Torres
Who the fuck is orthodox Marxist these days? What is wrong with you?
James Ross
Stalin should have tried harder to eradicate you
Xavier Martinez
This is now a commieball thread. Remember, sage goes in all fields.
Julian Murphy
>Stalin >Eradicating Americans >Commie education Pick literally one
Well why you are living on evil US then you retarded fuck? did you live under the opression of that motherfucking diabolic spawn of Fidel?. You didn't. You enter in the first category.
Thomas Parker
Thats exactly what i said. He didnt try hard enough to eradicate capitalism.
Aiden Carter
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Ryan Stewart
>You were assuming I was antifa supporting SJW, you don't
I wasn't asking you I was asking any leftists in the thread that would fit the criteria
Robert Cox
First of all, most far left states, even Marxist Leninist ones, didn't suffer outright famine. Second of all, the ones that did starve at one point either starved because famines had regularly happened in those countries before, or because assholes like Stalin didn't care if a few million died as long as the country industrialized as it did.
Ethan Peterson
Please don't forget the title next time, comrade.
Charles Green
How's Venezuela doing???
Julian Taylor
No one starves in the US lol. The poor people are usually the fat ones.
Jacob Sullivan
Didn't try at all. Fuck Stalincucks.
Lincoln Bell
the only reason cuba succeeded was because they are not only a non relevant small population and small sized island, but the only thing you people produce is food with your fertile land
Noah White
Fuck off.
Jose Fisher
I was born here dingle. I didnt have a choice. No one is denying cuba is a poor country. My grandfather fled because he like most miami scum were politcal allies of batiste.
Much like most of south America is poor because of capitalism.
Brayden Powell
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Matthew Davis
Do communists not realize that communism guarantees a single giant corporation (a.k.a. the government) complete monopoly over every industry and the power to kill any employee (a.k.a. the citizen) that doesn't comply? Communism literally is a parody of the perceived flaws in capitalism. I have tried and honestly cannot imagine a system more exploitative of workers. It guarantees that you will never be anything more than a slave laborer grunt - that is unless you are a (((Party member))). How is it current year and people still believe in this? The kikes are so impatient and pushy that they're already pushing it just 20 years after the Soviet Union collapsed. Let the goys take a five minute break before they have to deal with this shit again
You enter in the first fucking category. You don't know nothing about what you're talking about, your grandparents were smart and you should consider yourself lucky.
Gavin Barnes
His name was Hans-Georg Henke, in his later life he realized that nazis were bad and became a communist, living in East Germany until his death
Anthony Phillips
With what, his every third man has a rifle army? Kurt Cobain yourself, lefty faggot.
Ryder Thompson
Incorrect, ive been to the country. Ive met my extended family and by admissions of my own family they were politcal allies of batiste. They fled so that they wouldnt have been arrested with the rest of the imperialist scum.
Unfortunately they succeeded and sadly Im stuck here having this conversation with you. Sad!
Lucas Hall
lol. Grow up you fucking child
Cameron Hernandez
Oh look, the useful idiots are posting more threads here
why does the US either place economic embargos or support local extremist terrorist groups that want to overthrow the government in countries that are heavily socialist or communist?
Jack Morgan
You have lived your whole life as a US citizen with all the benefits that it gives. Do you think you saw the real Cuba when you visited that shithole as a US tourist with tons of dollars?, you disgraceful bitch, at least be happy that you're part of the nice part of the world, dumb fuck. If there is one thing that i hate more than this fucking communist regime is the people that live in a nice capitalist country and think that communism works somehow because they are blind idiots
Henry Wilson
globalist Nazbol?
Jayden White
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Kayden Ortiz
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Jason Kelly
What the fug, a finn pushing gommie bullshit!
Mason Lewis
>this level of autism >this level of implying
Angel Martinez
He is socialist and globalist, so yes, you can have him.
Contemporary, western commies just seem like philosophy nerds who want to do something brave. But they're faggots. At least with our mainstream libertarian they are actually about survival and self preservation. Commies fucking spange, steal and suck dick for survival
Kayden Nelson
OP, are you the finnish bolshevik on youtube?
Adrian Scott
Stop being a Stalinist
Leo Collins
No
Eli Kelly
just Allende alone caused famine, hyperinflation and was planning on murdering at least 100,000 people in the coming full on dictatorship he was planning, not to mention his various constitutional crimes.
Remember to put sage in the option field
Lincoln Miller
>tens of thousands Americans
Our "poor" people get so much free food that they eat themselves orca-fat, then when they're too big to walk we buy them a motorized scooter.
Xavier White
>Why are leftists so confrontational?
Your explanation.jpg
Mason Jenkins
>socialist has worked For some. :^)
Gabriel Robinson
The Jew face is overkill. There was already one in the picture.
Brayden Garcia
Why shouldn't individuals be allowed to own a means of production?
Caleb Sanchez
>There was already one in the picture. Why do leftists hate things that come in pairs? First it was the icecream scoops, now this?
Ryan Edwards
They don't have a pair themselves Because as we all know you don't need someone with a basic know how to manage the factory it's all magically working by itself t.factory worker
Michael Nguyen
Well played, Shlomo.
Chase Torres
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Connor Cook
>They don't have a pair themselves K.O.
Jordan Wilson
>the jew is trying to trick me by asking a simple and direct question about my ideology! Why so insecure?