Why did Hitler attack the Soviets!!?

Why did the Nazis conduct operation Barbossa? The Germans and the Soviets signed a treaty in 1939, literally not even a full year later in 1940 The German high command begin planning operation Otto (which Hitler authorized) which was basically formulating a tactical plan of invading the Soviet union ergo operation Barbossa!

But WHY! Did they really need the labour and the resources that badly? They were winning on the Eastern front! The Soviets were A very formidable force at this time, despite the famines Stalin still had autocratic control of the country, and more importantly The sincere devotion of the military.

The high command surely must have known that a war on two fronts, is just tactically suicidal! So why did they do it. If they didn't attack the Soviets it's likely the axis could have one and we would be living in a very different world right now.

Or am I mistaken, what is their labour force and resources really that depleted that they needed to invade the Soviets in desperation?

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Likely because he was a fucking retard.

There are reports they were already planning to attack him, and he wanted to stop the spread of communism. You know, the same reason we fought in Korea, Vietnam, and who knows where else.

To kill Communism

because the soviets were preparing an attack against western europe once they were weakened

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they had 12000+ tanks produced, they were preparing for 20 years

i think if it werent for hitler, communism would have reached france and maybe further

false flag by jews, not like it mattered, the jewish led Russians woulda ward Germany no matter what, because Germany btfos the slimy jews in germoney

Stalin was rebuilding his officer corps and upgrading his military equipment. Hitler realized this and tried to take the Soviet industrial core to cripple their efforts.

American Lend-Lease kinda fucked that plan by arming the ensuing Soviet Zerg rush

Anyone that accomplished what Hitler did is far from retarded. Even if it was heinous or evil, he was a significant event in humanity. The vast majority of humanity is nothing but plebians.

For plebs like us to go and insult the intellect of people that will be remembered long after their death, and left a significant mark on this world weather bad or good is just hilarious. It's literally like spiting straight up in the air and letting it land on yourself and then walking away thinking you accomplished something.

This is the conduct of liberals, be better than that no your place.

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The Soviets used god damn American trucks and steel for their push to Berlin

So you're saying the Americans actually conducted the fall of Berlin? And basically just used the Soviets as pawns?

Interesting… But doesn't answer my question

>Hitler wants to stop the spread of communism
>by handing to the USSR half of Poland, the baltics, Finland and Moldova in a silver platter

You don't ask a mad dog why he bite you. You put the dog down.

Hitler admired marxs and was very much a socialist. Look at some of these quotes:

> “I have learned a great deal from Marxism” … “as I do not hesitate to admit”

> [My task is to] “convert the German volk (people) to socialism without simply killing off the old individualists”

> "We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions” 1927

> "What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish we shall be in a position to achieve.”

That last one is terrifying.

>American Lend-Lease kinda fucked that plan by arming the ensuing Soviet Zerg rush
Lend Lease amounted to the great total of 2% of Soviet industrial production. And a great part was supplied by Great Britain

fun fact: there was a Soviet army about the size of the one that invaded right on the border, large air fields full of planes huge mechanized groups and such were all destroyed in the initial phases of Barbarossa, the reason Moscow wasn't attacked was so that a fuck huge Soviet army could be surrounded and destroyed the best move in that scenario, essentially there was a lot of shit and not a lot of time to stop it from creating a critical mass like what ended up happening in Stalingrad

there's also a huge misconception that the Soviet army destroyed the Wehrmacht, it was actually severe supply line and factory destruction and lack of food coming in from Germany caused by massive bombing campaigns from Harris and LeMay starting around 1941 and really ramping up massively in 1942-43 (the actual people that won the war for the allies)

mmm no he didnt

Marxism was against the ideology of national socialism. National socialism promoted the trascendence and marxism the inmanence.

also pic related

Hitler wasn't a rational person. He had delusions of grandeur, that he is fated to take over the world in one fell swoop.

Same reason Hitler supported the freicorps.
Communists were always enemies.

Stalin said without LL, they would have lost to Hitler.

So you are saying that a country that shat 10's of thousands of tanks every year could not produce a couple of trucks?

AHAHHAHAHAHAAHAH how easy you guys fall for Cold war american propaganda.

Lend Lease helped, obviously. But it wasn't a major factor.

Living space you idiot. The entire basis for his ideology revolved around taking over the East to colonise it.

For years the Nazis had plans to take over Eastern Europe, kill/expel the vast majority of the population, and replace them with German settlers. This was emboldened by the absolute failure of the Soviet invasion of Finland, making it look like a very real possibility of being achieved.

They invaded because they saw it as rightfully theirs. They made a mistake, but one that wasn't irrational given the information they had (how Russia performed during WW1, how the Soviets did against Poland and Finland).

It's not a secret why they did it. They saw it as rightfully theirs, they saw Communism as a threat (which in fairness it was), they wanted to kill two birds with one stone and they failed at it. It's that simple.

The destruction of the Soviet government, which supported Communist insurrections throughout the world, was a key part of the struggle against Judeo-Bolshevism.

The invasion happened when it did because the inevitability of war was recognized by both sides, despite the non-aggression pact. Had Germany attempted to invade the UK first, this would have consumed so many forces and so much resources, that Stalin would have inevitably taken the opportunity and attacked Germany. The USSR was a more immediate threat than the UK, so the invasion at that time was a logical next step.

The labor and resources that the territory of the USSR held are not insignificant - they are a HUGE factor. Although Germany wasn't depleted at that time, it was obvious that securing them was necessary.

>The Soviets were A very formidable force at this time
They were less formidable than they had been in 1936, thanks to the purges of officers.
Furthermore, German intelligence assessed the Soviet military to be weaker than it actually was, due to incomplete collection and very successful security measures in the Soviet Union. The Soviet army's poor performance in the Winter War led to even lower expectations.

On the flip side, German strategic thinking overestimated the capability of its own forces, comparing the its great success in the Battle of France to the great difficulties experienced in WWI.

Don't forget that even after capturing that army they went for Stalingrad (production centre) instead of Moscow, which was a mistake given how Moscow's over-centralised bureaucracy would have collapsed the high command if it fell.

Pre-emptive strike. Stalin had plans and the means to invade Germany, for which there was a operation with a date. Germany beat them to the punch, but came out of it second best, sadly. Germany and Russia were going to war, it was just a matter of who was going to get the first blows, and that was Germany, purely because they were ready to do it before Russia could.

Not American propaganda. This is straight from Krushchev's mouth:

>I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin’s views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were “discussing freely” among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany’s pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don’t think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.

this, also the soviets had plenty of army in the siberia, thats why he rushed to take moscow fast before the reinforcements came from siberia

>tfw Stalin was /our guy/

Everybody underestimated Stalin. Stalin portrayed himself as some rugged simple uncle but loved to read yet hid it from everybody. His bookshelves in his retreat at was on a revolving frame so it could be hidden from visitors. This is significant because Stalin was a legitimate Machiavellian political manipulator who would string along people for years before dealing with them in some other game of 36D Chess.

Keep in mind how he secured power from a group of intellectuals that all mocked his "rural" demeanor and outlook. He first sided with the center-left of the party (Zinoviev and Kamenev) against the far-left (Trotsky/etc.). When they were dealt with, he sided with the right of the party (Bukharin and Rykhov) against Zinoviev/Kamenev. When they were dealt with, he eliminated Bukharin and Rykhov because they had no other political allies left.

The negative result of this was that Stalin only was able to understand others through the same soulless pragmatism he had, so if you acted emotionally or irrationally (i.e. Hitler when he invaded Russia) he didn't see it coming and would break down. Stalin did not take failure well and would become quite depressed at the littlest thing, as opposed to Hitler who threw a short temper tantrum over it.

He also did what Hitler could not. He out-Jewed the Jew.

The Soviets would have had literally no planes by 1941 if not for LL sending them aluminium because they were getting BTFO so hard. "A couple of trucks" confirmed to know literally nothing about logistics and not having to produce those trucks and rolling stock freed up the factories they needed to pump out the steaming shitheaps they called tanks.

2% exactly where and when they needed it. Also, the technology transfer that came with that was no joke

So your so called quote is not a Stalin quote, it was someone who may or may not have discussed this with Stalin! Really makes me noggins joggin!

And let's not forget Krushchev was responsible for the "De'Stalinization"

because stalin was about to invade himself so hitler pulled the trigger first. and fascisms sworn duty is to kill commies

Assmad Commie, 50% of Soviet food and the majority of their supply trucks came from the US. And around 20% of their tank fleet.