If you are a young married couple, have no privation of the sexual faculty, and aren't having children...

If you are a young married couple, have no privation of the sexual faculty, and aren't having children, you are selfish twats.
You give the elite a reason to bring in unlimited immigrants.
You provide the justification for the raising of taxes on the incoming, shrinking generations to pay for the aging population. Since there are less children being born, there are less coming into the workforce which means there are less taxes being paid. This inevitably equals a failing financial market as it is driven by spending.

Instead, working-class couples prefer to have a damn dog, an animal, as opposed to propagating their own flesh and blood.

Excuses are given, ad nauseum.
>We're waiting until my wife graduates college.
>We want to vacation a bit and enjoy our prime years together.
>If I have children now, we won't be able to:
>get that new car
>take that extra vacation
>party with friends
>act like a damn highschool kid in my mid twenties until mid thirties

Today, pol, I went grocery shopping. My family went along with me. We have five children (thus far). While shopping, this trendy couple, looking to be in their early-to-mid twenties, made a slight about my large family; something to the effect of "why do you have so many kids."
My response was, well, I suppose because I'm not a sodomite.
>the utter horror in their faces
As expected, I was called a "bigot." I replied, well, at the rate you're going, it is a good and decent thing that your kind will die out without offspring. At most, you'll have one, maybe to children. One, only replacing one of you. Two, only replacing the both of you. No net growth.
>The horror faces became faces of befuddlement

All around me, I see Protestants and Catholics living the same lifestyle. What the hell is wrong with you people? Become adults and make the commitment to life.

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I have no hope for the future of society and do not want to cause my offspring to suffer by bringing them into existence
> I would actually like a serious reply

I know there is no hope for "future society". Conservatism is dead in the water.
Conservatism posits that we conserve the classical liberal milieu. Without classical liberalism, we would have no SJW. Or, without the mad philosophies of Locke and Thomas Jefferson, we would have no SJW.

There IS no hope for future society if you imagine that future society being an organic outgrowth of the current degenerate "culture."

It is going to end. There's no getting around it. The nations are wrapped up in usury. The elites are pulling us toward world war. The culture war is lost. There is going to be a collapse.

The question is: are you going to throw in the towel and do nothing for the civilization after the collapse? Are you going to raise children who stand for objectivity, logic, and truth? Are you going to create future culture warriors to give the alternate path--which is the traditional path--to aid in leading society back to sanity?

That's our mission.
My hope is in God, and my mission is in raising children capable of identifying the path back to sanity.

>future of society

without kids there will be NO society

Good thing I'm not young or in a relationship just a good ol fashioned 29 year old NEET who is waiting for his mother to die so I can kill myself. The fucked up part is I'm a 8/10 in looks and if I just spent a year doing some tech school and fit id be able to land a nice girl and have a family by 35. It's a nice thought but I'm a lazy degenerate and my bloodline is probably better off gone even if it is 75% English. The whole lot of my family has all ready destroyed civilization anyway all my relatives now are half black/Mexican/Cuban and I know that white girls aren't attractive. For some reason I only find light skin women attractive so this is a good thing. TLDR: the worlds doomed and my family and I are the problem

After the collapse is a completely different question. I would happily raise children in second or even third world conditions rather than our current society, but our situation is degenerate and anti-life, and I'm more or less just waiting for things to collapse at this point, and trying to figure out what to do in the meantime.

>While shopping, this trendy couple, looking to be in their early-to-mid twenties

Why are you red pilling edgelords? Now they might want to reproduce a net worth out of spite.

I don't know what to do with such defeatist nihilism. All I can do is recommend you to God.

If you were a friend of mine I would tell you to get off your ass, pray, learn a trade, pray, find a younger woman and marry her.

You were born in the best time to be alive, the best time to be counter-cultural. No generation before us had access to the degeneracy at the level we do, in our pockets no less.
This is a war, man. When you are the head of a household, you are at war.

The dominant culture sells false counter-cultural crap to sell you into a new revolution which leads to another revolution, ad infinitum.

Me too. So join in the degeneracy. There's something thrilling about letting loose and engaging in degeneracy when you in now things around about to come to an end. Even if only for a year or two. There's nothing left to preserve so why not let it die faster

topkek if this is real you are truly an autist

Everyone deserves a chance to potentially take the antidote to the poison.
Besides, if they're truly apostles of degeneracy, they'll be contracepting into their mid 30's and end up never having children, anyway.

Droompa loompa
Drompfhly doo
I only got one scoop why'd you get two?
Droompa loompa
Dromphly dee dee
Release your damn tax returns you have until three.

Never underestimate the power of spite.

You didn't answer my question though- why should I not simply be waiting and preparing for the collapse? Having children before the collapse seems to be simply providing the meat grinder with more meat.
I've tried, but I found it was unenjoyable. I've been to the strippers, done weed, been blackout drunk, hooked up with girls (one qt and some uggos), BDSM, jerked it to tranny porn, rape porn, incest porn, and now i want nothing to do with it.

These "selfish" childless couples are living their lives and enjoying themselves, and you're wasting your life being mad about it on a message board.

:)

Well, it really happened. Isn't the first time and probably won't be the last.

Yeah, I believe it'd take an enormous amount of spite to overcome the temptation of living a child-free, Peter Pan existence and have children for these type of people.

inb4 REEEE REEE GB2 REDDIT REEE

My Catholic mother just told me women should be career driven, even if it means a career at Subway to pick up a man. Seriously....

Why is that parents are always trying to make childless people unhappy like themselves?
>be me
>dual income, no kids
>watch 60 year old friends take care of old parents and deal with their kids killing themselves.
>regret nothing

This.

Asking couples for 18 (or more) years of misery just because you want it is ridiculous.

Don't know. I suppose that's a matter of prudence on your part on whether or not to marry and procreate at any given time.

>Peter Pan syndrome
>never ever grow up, kiddo

There is absolute nothing wrong for a male to have a child in his late 40s or for a women in her late 20s or mid 30s.

Heck if everyone could do that, children wont be raised by failures and losers, specially uneducated and poor people. A made male and a mature women are the best to teach the kids, but those teenagers and hooked up at high-school?

I still don't get why doing drugs are illegal and persecuted but bringing humans to this world without planning is considered a right. It should be a privilege, controlled and modern day eugenics benefits on it.

Well, I appreciate your honesty. The main thought that I have been entertaining is whether or not to help accelerate the decline by taking a job with the globalists, or just keep my hands clean and minimize my involvement with society.

>owns a multi-million dollar business
>has 13 employees
>clearly doesn't know how to be an adult

This. Canada is almost completely cucked and trying to push tons of babies out of my wife's vagina and then Raise them in a degenerate society with chink and paki filled schools is futile. I'd rather just be hedonistic as fuck. Me and my wife make six figures so we are rich as fuck as long as we have no kids.

>You give the elite a reason to bring in unlimited immigrants.

implying they need a reason to want to flood the west with immigrants.

Implying that if whites would JUST BREED MORE, the elite wouldn't still be trying to replace them.

Frankly, OP, your naivete is alarming.

OP is a faggot. A redpilled family must have a cat!

What are you doing to prepare for the end? Do you figure it'll be the housing market crashing which eventually does us in? I've had a vision of my life where I occupy my time with reading, learning languages, having sex, and stocking up on food/water/guns/medicine

Motivation and purpose of replacement is different from providing a reason wrapped in a golden bow.
Besides, these are merely economic and material consequences to the underlying moral issue.

Ah, damnit, exterminations needed.

>These "selfish" childless couples are living their lives and enjoying themselves, and you're wasting your life being mad about it on a message board.

Its called living for more than just yourselves and something that is bigger than you you stupid hedonistic nigger.

No, user. Europeans are retarded beyond comprehension to large scale reasoning. Even in economics, the "le cheap workforce" meme can't no longer be applied. China is concerned about losing his world factory status. Why? Because automation, but more precisely the cost of having robots and specialized AI.

Like computers, robots production are getting more and more cheap. And more business will use them. Look at the car factories, no need of a fucking human hand. And on service? Let's not get there. Immigrants have no economic impact in this century. No at all. Low IQ and heavy welfare?

>But user markets!
Literally soviet logic.

I'm just waiting for my career to get rolling along a little more.

I should be earning 6 figures by my late 20's and have a decent house deposit going so am going to start having kids then.

Should be able to get three out whilst my wife is still in her early 30's.

Am I okay OP?

Man economic stability is good, but you should have at least 2 gf per year, so once you are ready you already have worthy friends to marriage.

fuck you make at least 2 babies

childless people are statistically more likely to be unhappy. They're not trying to make them unhappy they're trying to save them from future unhappiness

>i'm too busy with my career
>holds the same job, same position for 10 years after college and settles in that job

>I would happily raise children in second or even third world conditions rather than our current society, but our situation is degenerate and anti-life
home school your kids and live in rural areas you idiot

People who go to church and eat antidepressants are also statistically happier. But fuck that!

Childless people tend to be emotionally to fucking pets. Kinda cringe worthy, but its natural.

Are you sure? Who stays more than 4 years in the same place. You aren't a baby boomer.

>implying we need continuous growth

Be open to life, man. Marriage was meant for procreation.
Don't be so arrogant to tell God how many children you're willing to bring into the world--just let it happen. I guarantee you'll be a happier man.

I married with a crap income. I work hard. We had our first. We don't contracept. Trusting that this is the will of God and acting in concert with the natural order, I was rewarded. Four more children later, I make enough to support them all comfortably. I now make six figures. Not that it fell out of the sky--I worked my ass off, but doors were opened.

God will meet you where ever, when you are willing to trust Him and act in accordance with basic natural law.

Good job women hate me.

>My response was, well, I suppose because I'm not a sodomite.
OP is a hick or a Mexican spic.
>Become adults and make the commitment to life
Fuck getting married and fuck having kids since it is too goddamn risky to get married and start a family. If i really want my genes to propagate then ill knock a few women up and run.

Expect social workers to be knocking on your door shortly...

>but you should have at least 2 gf per year,
?

I've been with the same girl since I was 20 and am going to spend the rest of my life with her you degenerate.

We need it. But we need an organized and improved one. Selecting the best.

Nice. Wish you well.

I've 4 niw and I'll admit that I delayed for 'financial security'.
The rampant consumerism that you have identified is the main game.

Then sort yourself out mate.

If you make yourself not shit and put some effort into actually meeting people there is no way that 50 percent of the population hate you.

No, we need continuous rejuvenation. Continuous growth is a kike plan.

It definitely sucks you in. Seen it happen over and over.
Couples get married, strive to get a "secure" income. End up late 30's with one kid. Every one of these couples I know are heavy drinkers and all around unhappy people.
Perhaps that isn't the story of everyone like this, but this seems to be the general case.

Rejuvenation is like religion. Just accept your role in existence is temporary, we need to preserve life.

Advances in medicine and other shit is good, but to fear death? Thanks to it we developed the fucking concept of god, that Jews used to build organized religions and brainwashed humanity for centuries.

Fuck you. You are going to die, that's how it is. Man up.

If Western Society is gonna collapse, I (one man) can't stop it (unless I'm the Pope or Trump or Putin or something)

I may as well enjoy myself and avoid children, it won't change anything.

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>You give the elite a reason to bring in unlimited immigrants.

why does it matter. when the immigrants come or whatever the right wing fearmongerers want me to believe I will be long dead anyway. without kids I wouldn't even need to worry about them so thats a bonus point.

>as opposed to propagating their own flesh and blood.

why would I waste resources on that? lets see:

>Become adults and make the commitment to life.

ah no thanks.

No you stupid Nigger. The White race is decreasing because ((They)) make it more beneficial for non whites to breed like fucking rabbits and get gibs.

You don't fix it by trying to out breed them. That's a lost cause. The solution is to prevent them from breeding.

BUT, what if you wife and you are great people. Isn't unfair that Abbos have lots of them and you won't at least have one kid to pass the genes?

Like Hitler said, the hope is in the blood.

>descendant of the winged hussars that saved western civilization from barbarian hordes
>rejects natural law and Catholic heritage
Interesting to see the civilizational decay reach all the way from the West to between the walls of your skull.

And what are your proposed solution besides removing welfare? And of course dropping the extermination card because that shit can't be applied today.

>not having a doggo to test your relationship and time parameters and obligations as a pretest to that of children
>not raising a doggo to then protect your young kids 5 years down the line from muzzies and negroes

Seriously weak. If you can prepare yourself for children with having a smiling pupper that also kills brownies if they threaten your kid, you are secure

>implying OP isnt a butthurt feline

Listen, kiddo. When you allow the degeneracy of contraception and abortion in society, it becomes a norm for ALL.
Meaning, it won't be just the jigaboos using and doing it. It will be your sons and daughters, too. It's likened to candy-coated arsenic pills. Allows everyone to live a hedonistic lifestyle centered on mememe, but in return destroys your lineage and the moral fabric of your civilization thus resulting in the complete loss of identity.

lots of people, including you, if you were half as competent as you might claim to be

Hate to point the obvious but a fucking dog won't stop the years of brainwashing your daughter will have, and by the time she turns 18yo, she will be the one seeking "brownies" for casual sex.

My parents tried that. My childhood was miserable, depressing, and lonely, and now im left as an adult withno education, and literally less social experience than a pre-schooler and will be severely fucked up for the rest of my life. Great idea, leaf.

> Instead, working-class couples prefer to have a damn dog,

My wife is homeschooled. Completely different experience.
My children are homeschooled, as well. It is what you put into it.

Please. The tendency is to grow in a company and after 3-4 years a headhunter will come to you to move to another sector. Its not only for money but to rank more in responsibilities and experience in the sector you work.

Unless of course you are a code monkey, a cashier, the owner, that can't rank in one sector over time among many companies.

Are you forgetting a little thing called no-fault divorce OP?

I'll laugh if your fat wife leaves you and gains custody of your snot-nosed brats.

>If you are a young married couple, have no privation of the sexual faculty, and aren't having children, you are selfish twats.
How is not having a baby that is a"gift" and "greatest joy" selfish? Either children are net loss, or it is not selfish not to get one.

Feel free to pic which one it is.

Maybe in your cathocuck, mainline protestant, or eastern orthodox country because your sect is shit. Im on mobile so i cant tell which non-country you are but im betting orthodox.

My fiance wont date men who arent calvinists. I wouldnt date a womann
Who didnt want at least 5 kids. Plus if our daughter (implying we would have daughters) came home with a nigger our dog would kill him or I would shoot him.
Problem solved. 2+2=4

You live in an idealized world man

It costs roughly 250k US $ to raise a child to the age of 18. You have five of the polluting cretins. Every time you say child in your post I replace it with a 250k$ car or yacht that you expect the rest of us to pay for because of you have some pathetic innate desire to carry on a legacy.

Poor person detected. Children are a wealth generating/long term 40 year investment

If the only thing that is important to you is your bank account, then children would be, for you, a net loss.
Choosing the hedonistic lifestyle over procreation is most definitely selfish.

Thanks for the laugh, man. God willing, I will have more.

Also, 250k isnt a lot

So basically your plan is to raise an isolated kid like or , relying on "my special kind of Christianity" values and if all above fails then you turn into a fucking murdered shooting whoever your kids date based on skin colour.

Bravo, this is the reason why whites are going extinct. Step up, at least the Jews can do a decent planning.

Not really, I studied manufacture engineer so is common for my peers to do that. It can be different in other professions, i dont know

>and if all above fails then you turn into a fucking murdered...
Peru, peru, peru. Do you dream about doing this yourself? Is this what occupies your mind?

Of course, I never said anything like it.

>Motivation and purpose of replacement is different from providing a reason wrapped in a golden bow.

Then why suggest that having more white kids would stop immigration?

High tension religions and communities have high opportunity costs for withdrawing. Ask yourself why cults exist and why mormons and jehovas witnesses maintain their culture. This is basic economic process thoughts of religion.

Dont get snappy with me because you cannot process information or had a shit education.
You talk like a peasant anyway so if you want to project your self defeatism outlook onto others feel free.
Good luck in whatever life you forge, in all seriousness. I hope you improve yourself if you actually arent just LARPing about the white race

Demographics 101.
If the population replacement rate were not below 2.1 without immigration, there would be no argument for the need of immigration to stay above the zero population growth line of 2.1 children per family.

So it's selfish because they're not really a net loss even though they seem to be? I don't think you've thought all this out.

This logically is true but dont forget there is still the "muh agriculture jobs" line that likely would still be parrotted because god forbid liberals cant see 5 years ahead and realize shits gonna be automated

There isn't an argument now because they're not gonna magically turn into copies of us once we've let them settle here.

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>STOP ENJOYING LIFE AND START HAVING KIDS

yeah nah

Supporting a family solely through you and your partner's income and ending welfare is the perfect solution. God knows NigJigs, Pajeets, Pacos and Chinks are barely qualified for the real important jumps unless through some sort of gibs and/or affirmative action.

Eventually everything evens out and Whites aren't outnumbered.

The real solution is still eliminate the Jews.

>it becomes a norm for All

if your kids are that much like Niggers.

>defeatism
Its logic, probability and pragmatism. Those variables are dump in in a plan. You can shape your children future, but to base them or religion values and resort to violence... its at least for me gambling a lot.

In my case, I am not as concerned for race like you all, but will focus on respect and admire IQ and aesthetics. When you have both white and native genes you look in other perspective. My children will be raised by principles more than religion, its more flawless. Dignity over money, prestige over mediocrity.

Anyway on large scale and state level, we should be using eugenics.

when you're 60 all of your friends will be dying, dead, or have moved away. You won't have others your age to talk to or socialize with. Adults don't have time for old folks. You know what that leaves you with? Children, old people are supposed to take care of their grandchildren in their final years. If you've ever heard of a therapy animal children are way better in terms of making your final years joy-filled instead of a depressing march to your doom.

Hmm, that's a lot of white niggers.

*jobs

I agree with you on eugennics. As someone who's ancestors include governors and presidents of my country, most lines need to be ended of the lowly classes.

I was thinking in legislating proration as a privileged, so "illegal birthing and pregnancy" has some form of criminal sentence like avoiding taxes. A very serious crime.

So people would restrain themselves to reproduce. At least a blood test at first and then going full eugenics in a near future. A privilege not a right.

if you got hard to tranny porn you're gay.

>more than 99%

Stop posting retarded sources.

Stop making it beneficial for nonwhites to breed.

>Implying I want my children to be the slaves of jews

Fuck you, OP, I'm doing them a favor by not bringing them into this shitshow.

Who cares desu. If a couple chooses not to propagate, who are we to stop them?

Here's what's going to happen.

WW3 is going to break out, out of control from the (((world governments))). They aren't going to plan on that, and will have to try to deal with it.

America, hopefully under Trump, will try to patch it up, but it'll just get worse. We'll see the biggest religious war since the Crusades.

Afterwards, only the toughest offspring will be left. The very few that were (((liberal))) will be dead or not viable for mating.

I believe that a plague will break out in Asia. They're firewood for that sort of thing.

guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states

We shall see. I'm merely suggesting that married folk stop practicing sodomite culture vis a vis contraception.

>when you're 60 all of your friends will be dying, dead, or have moved away
>Adults don't have time for old folks
Yeah old people never do stuff together. Fucking weird old hermit Canadians. All of the old people I know have better social lives than all of the middle aged people I know. It's been that way my whole life.