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>Tories set out their stall on workers' rights
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/14/workers-get-year-leave-care-elderly-relatives-tory-government/

>Progressive alliance would not stop Tory majority, study suggests
theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/13/party-alliance-not-stop-tory-majority-labour-greens-lib-dems

>'Robin Hood tax' on City pledged by Labour
bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39910293

>Thornberry swears on live TV
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/14/emily-thornberry-turns-air-blue-accuses-sir-michael-fallon-talking/

>Tories plan to build more council houses
bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39911569

>NHS computer systems targeted by large scale attack
bbc.co.uk/news/health-39899646

>Lib dems: DUDE WEED LMAO
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39897999

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Reading The Bible in Hawaiian Pidgin lads

Here's a bit from Genesis

>Nadiya Hussain is to go to Mecca with an all-Muslim television crew to film a new BBC1 documentary thetim.es/2pLcXzm

June 8th prediction

>job centre edition
>posts job centre plus
Fucks sake user

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Reads more like the way Jamaicans talk desu senpai

Brady not dead yet.

>tfw you live in a country where some people actually believe Tony Blair and Gina Miller are defenders of the working class

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Fuck me

(I hope they don't edit out all the aggressive gender-segregation stuff or attempt to normalise it with their usual, downright-evil, cultural relativist fuckery)

Just signed off today lads. Getting 450 quid a week for 4x10 hour shifts. Plan to save up for a car then pay for a 5k training course(H&S) to sort my career out. Started lifting at the start of the year and I'm looking better. Hopefully be in a better place by the end of the year. /blog

The date of birth of the British state, insofar as it can be identified, is the year 1707, when the union of England and Wales with Scotland was enacted. The state then created, and the British nation then imagined, consisted of a mix of Protestantism and providentialism: of the conviction that the British were a chosen people, and that the state existed to defend the Protestant religion against multinational, papal Catholicism. As the state’s wealth, industrial might, sea power and imperial reach grew, so also grew the belief that the Protestant British were a chosen people with their distinctive providential mission. Religion waned; Catholics and other outsiders like Jews were first tolerated, and then mostly incorporated into civil society and political life. But belief in providence – in the British as a chosen people – persisted. By the late 19th century, the providential commitment was invested in the mission of Empire. As the domestic social and cultural fabric changed, and the geopolitical environment was transformed, new ways of imagining the British mission were cultivated. The years during and immediately after the First World War were crucial. The working class, especially the working class of Scotland, was fused into the state by the experience of war. The Labour Movement, which before the war had been mildly separatist, was converted to its own version of British ‘Unionism’ – principally by the promise of using the power of the central British state to create a regime of British social citizenship. This promise was realised in the post-war settlement after 1945. Now new fantasies (or if you prefer fresh imaginings) were spun around the providential people: Britain as the pioneer of the welfare state; Westminster as the mother of Parliaments; Britain as the original home of democracy; the Commonwealth as the successor to a dead Empire. To recall Renan again: a nation is indeed a community united by common error with regard to its origins.

Lads how many of you are racists? And to what degree?

But the post-war settlement was not just a matter of constructing an imaginary past. It involved important policy commitments in the here and now. It meant a system of social citizenship which redefined what it meant domestically to be British. It meant a set of economic theories which gave the central British state responsibility for steering the whole economy. It meant new international alliances which readapted the imperial mission to the world of NATO and the Cold War, and which committed the state to a uniquely high level of military spending. The domestic props of this reimagined Britain collapsed in the 1970s; the international components had to be refashioned after the collapse of the Soviet bloc in 1989. Reimagining the British state has since then been the central task of policy makers, especially of policy makers at the metropolitan centre. Chapter 4 describes this: the great burst of innovation which encompasses the years of Thatcherite triumphalism and New Labour adaptation. The years after 1979 saw a flowering of policy creativity which refashioned the shape of the state and offered new visions of its domestic and international purposes. All this came to a dead end in the second decade of the 21st century. It was destroyed by a great contradiction in domestic policy: the state simultaneously tried to reimagine Britain but pursued economic policies which contributed to communal dissolution.

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It was fatally damaged externally – in our relations with the EU and in the tragedy of Iraq – by the continuing hold of providentialism over the elite mind. With so much destroyed domestically, the state began to rely heavily on military providentialism: on the conviction that the UK had a calling to engage in foreign military adventures and was a special partner in policing the Pax Americana. This analytic history is tied together in the following pages by three ideas. Providentialism is the conviction that the British are a people with a special destiny. That imagined destiny has changed over time. It began as an almost biblical conviction that the British were a chosen Protestant people. It ended in the tragedy of Iraq as military providentialism: the conviction that Britain’s destiny was to have a warfare state which would help police the world. That is why in the final chapter there is an account of the Iraq tragedy and, in particular, of the verdict of the Chilcot Report on that tragedy. Messianism is connected with providentialism. It expresses the conviction that the British have a pioneering purpose – whether that purpose was the diffusion of Protestantism, the creation of Empire, or the invention of Parliamentary government. Statecraft is the practice which allowed different versions of providentialism and messianism to prevail at different historical moments. It is so called because it covers the ways elites competed for control of the state and what they did with state power once it was in their grasp.

They will.

All is lost, user.

Our country is dead, and all efforts to revive it will be mercilessly beaten down at any level above where that man manages to reach.

gonna laugh my dick off if Corbyn gets more votes
than Miliband

Job centres are probably the most depressing looking places around

If you refuse or are reluctant to accept that races biologically differ in various ways, then you are simply anti-science.

Ah yes you gotta love the old Beeb lads, no adverts just back to back quality telly.

That would legitimise his leadership too kek

Post yfw the 'large scale international cyber attack affecting hundreds of thousands of people in dozens of countries' is just bog standard decade-old ransomware that only got in because the stupid cunts are still using Windows XP

twitter.com/BBCNews/status/864100386621313025

She didn't do too badly. Course the replies are already saying she struggled. I wonder if this comfy bubble of bullshit is going to dissuade Labour voters from even voting.

I'm surprised she understood his question

Ask any normie what they think about the BBC.

>it's great XD no adverts lel :3

Yes, having a Marxist state broadcaster that throws people in prison for not giving them money is fine because you don't have to sit through a 30 second comparethemarket.com advert.

J U S T

>those comments

Let me guess
>"they should switch to the vastly superior Linux"

>ywn be a happy Hawaiian Islander reading his bible
>you will always be stuck on a grey, rainy, dying island.
>you will never reclaim Hawaii from the Americans
;-; I'm sorry Hawaii.

>legalising weed

Nothing screams desperation for votes by appealing to the lowest common denominator.

>Implying we're not literally God's chosen people

NHS was warned about a potential attack a month ago and trusts were told to upgrade their software
The ones who were affected clearly thought they could do without it. Microsoft came out and said this is what happens when intelligence agencies hoard software like this, it gets out and everyone's fucked. It'll be interesting to see how global politics handles cyber security in the next couple of weeks

There's always one isn't there? Always.

>Tory landslide, 400 seats give or take
>Corbyn still able to get higher vote share than Foot or Kinnock in 87
>uses this and 'muh five year mandate' to stay on
>drags PLP to the left
>combination of this and affirmative action leading to a generation of shit Labour politicians causes electoral oblivion for decades

No, they should just stop using 17 year old abandonware

I'm not being disingenuous, it is literally systems that are still running XP that are affected

Alright mate, can I have 20 pints to forget about the hellish future awaiting humanity

>b-but a small number of people are abusing the system

Better get rid of the whole thing then. And we can get rid of benefits, immigration and the NHS whilst we're at it.

>no qt nationalist morally-conservative working-class party

please

How about this:

Allow people to opt out of additional funding for the welfare state.

Everyone must pay a minimum in taxes to stop people dying or being left in the street. Then, unless you opt out, you pay more in tax. If nobody opts out, we have the most lavishly funded welfare system in the world. If everyone opts out, we have a bare-bones system.

It's just going to be used as an excuse for more government spending.

They don't upgrade because they fear it breaks something. Some Windows 2000/XP machines have specialist software only used in hospitals. It would cost a great deal to develop newer versions for modern operating systems. Getting that balance between usability and security is hard. Today's programmers are sloppy so you'd probably have shitty software made.

if they opt out would they recieve less social funding?

almost seemed staged how reasonable the guy was, to counter the "Tezza doesn't mean normals" narrative

Labour is already the victim of a generation of shit politicians.

One of the most interesting cases I've ever heard essentially runs as follows: The Thatcher years, combined with the utter devastation of the Labour defeat in 1992 when they seemed certain to win put an entire generation of talented people off going into politics, particularly damaging the left. So now that generation is coming of age to take over, you get wonks like Miliband and Balls (seen in many 1997 videos following Gordon Brown around, Eddy in Harry Potter glasses.) taking frontrow positions that are well above their pay grade.

I forget if it was about them, or Cameron, but at the time something along the lines of "They are from their generation, but not of it." was noted.

Were you taught ANYTHING about the British Empire in school? I can't remember learning a single thing about it which is disgraceful.

There isn't a limit to the amount of tax you can pay, people just instinctively pay the minimum

Source?

>Allow people to opt out of additional funding for the welfare state.
you allow people to do that everyone from middle class and above will do it, and the system collapses anyway.

The slave trade :^)

Literally didn't even hear it existed until I was 17.

"The End of British Politics?" by Michael Moran
It's up on pirate bay.

cheers lad

nah nothing except it was bad

Schooled in Scotland, so we just had "Muh Bannockburn".
Even in English, I think there was some obligation to prioritise Scottish texts.
If Shakespeare wasn't (for whatever reason) absolutely essential to every school curriculum, I could probably have gone all the way through school without 'England' being mentioned

That whole "every cunt there is silently filming everything for no discernible reason" aspect just terrifies me to the core. Why are they ALL doing it?

If that happens all the neets will come out of their caves and riot causing significant damage to property and infrastructure.

When we did the slave trade we didn't even act like the empire was a thing. In fact the way it was taught seemed to imply that all the blacks were brought here.

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>corbyn hired andrew murray to run his campaign
is this true

by this I mean we learned about gandhi resisting it because it was evil

>told to upgrade software
>OS upgrade incoming
>all current hardware cannot run new OS
>replaced all hardware
>now every computer has IEM
Cyber security is in a piss poor position at the moment. This cyber attack has been completely manufactured.

>how to destroy the welfare state in 1 easy step
People don't like paying taxes and they don't like paying for other people to have things for free unless everyone is doing it. Under that system most people will opt out and then everyone gets crap or no service.
The only way the welfare state works is by everyone agreeing to pay a compulsory amount, so that everyone is guaranteed the same level of support.

You killed millions of native people and stole their land. I guess that's not really a bad thing though...

>literal The Thick Of It plotline
I fucking hope so

>Irish subjugation
>Slavery (they never told us a bout the part where we ended it of course)
>Native American subjugation (muh smallpox blankets)
>Amritsar massacre

Needless to say I went on to learn about it on my own and was astonished at all the glory that they never touched upon.

Reminds me of that Ray Bradbury story.

Its so unbelievably sinister.

That's actually disgusting no wonder young scots are more anti english than the generation that was actually fucked by Thatcher.

i think a if we punished people for wasting public funds so if you repeatedly go to the doctor or a+e for no reason you have to pay the costs

Nicholas Soames campaigning today.

I know, it's bizarre. ITV, BBC, Channel 4, and others were all there filming it, but some cunt wants a personal copy on his phone for some reason.

Yeah, kind of crazy, really.
For all intents and purposes, it was Scottish History, Scottish Literature, etc.
And this was before the SNP years, God knows what it's like now

Sturgeon had an unintentional slip on Andrew Marr where she said that, though literacy and numeracy is failing, they're still producing "good citizens".

God knows what kids are learning.

But at least you had Scottish literature, all our books were American.

You should thank us, red-blooded 'American'.

The difference is opt out vs opt in.

People are lazy.

>Tudors up the arse
>Slave trade
>The one time the Spanish tried to nab us and got BTFO
That's more or less everything.

What political party were the people in The Thick of It? I get that Malcolm is supposed to be Alastair Campbell-esque

Good citizens = people that'll swallow the SNP rhetoric unquestioningly.

A good majority of my friends are big SNP voters, I was chatting with one of them a few weeks ago, and he literally said "yeah, maybe I should read up on them, and see what their policies are".

>WW1
>Boer war and how we created concentration camps
>Crimean war with that black nurse

I went through lower/middle/upper rather than primary/secondary and in year 3 we were taught about Christopher Columbus. That's the only thing that springs to mind, really. History pretty much went from a tiny bit on the Normans, a fuckton on the Tudors, bits of the Industrial Revolution and mountains on WW2. What a farce.

Shot many a bird that way - one only twenty mins ago which is why I'm replying so late, I was busy butchering it.

I used to worry about that too - normally gave every one a follow up or two, or even a brick to the skull, but it's nothing to be bothered by. Every animal tends to flop around after a shot to the skull, sometimes. Not always, but often enough. Just nerve endings shutting down.

I'm generally against opt-out as the standard model in things, it puts more moral pressure on people to stay

I mean, it follows the politics of the time (intentionally obfuscated).
So obviously you start out with Labour, and then there's the Conservative/Lib Dem coalition

>Jeremy Corbyn has hinted that Labour’s revised manifesto will include a commitment to reducing the retirement age - Jez says 68 is “too late” to retire. He is 68 next week.

Tucker's party were meant to be Labour, then in the third season, the older politician from the other party was Tory, while the younger guy was Lib Dem, as part of the coalition

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>Officer seriously assaulted on Botwell Lane by the leisure centre. Officer was surrounded by a large hostile anti Police crowd, 2 arrested.

>anti Police crowd

Hmm

Malcom's party was clearly Labour. In S4 the coalition is clearly meant to be Tory/Libdems

Americans didn't really intermarry with the indigenous like the Spaniards did throughout latin America. White Americans were much more prone to interbreed with blacks, which is why American blacks are all about 25% white. Although, whites in America love proclaiming about how the are 1/16 native.

newspeak

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>This one pleb on Facebook posting shit like "quick, get ready to vote my generation! You don't want those filthy pensioners to destroy your Marxist utopia again do you???"
Even if Labour had actual, feasible, functioning policies, removing the Tories before brexit is over and replacing them with Corbyn and crew would be disastrous. It's like not one of them passed GCSE math.

>lower/middle/upper
Whereabouts was this? I had no idea that the three-tier system even existed in the UK until I read a bit ago that the Isle of Wight used to do it that way.

Also, all the things learnt about these stages are really wishy-washy and not all that important after the fact. Any suffering caused in the factories is somewhat irrelevant now, the results are however not.

Like how any time our Nelson-era Navy is mentioned they talk about the food the sailors ate, how no women were allowed, and something about no safety lines.

It's no wonder there's no national pride when there's no heroism or grandeur in our history lessons, to the point where the jewel in the crown that was the British Raj is only mentioned when talking about how we lost it.

Each series reflected the political makeup of when it was broadcast

First few series Labour were in power, then you had the Coalition

>math

foy

EEZ DUN NUFFIN MAN
>literally dindu

On one hand, people are right to be anti-police now. On the other hand, I doubt these were white people who were betrayed by the police.

Buckinghamshire, we still have Grammars too.

Patriotic brain reprogramming devices when???

I didn't know if he was on about help to buy or right to buy at the start..

Either way, help to buy helped people within it's criteria, why does some twat even care?

His questioning was all over the place.