Is Satanism bad?

Is Satanism bad?

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Catholic here. It's only bad insofar as it promotes indulgent, self-centered lifestyles with no regard to the well being of society or the community at large. Besides that it's just a shitty amalgamation of Ayn Rand and new age spiritualism.

Only if you swear an oath to Satan. He is the worst boss ever!

Religion affects politics faggot

>masons
don't be silly

Yes, it's just more heeb shit.

Yes,anton lavey is a jew

this thread isn't political it belongs in /his/ letting shit like this slide drives quality of the board down fuck off apologist

It's just glorified hedonism with an edgy veneer.

BORING!

Really it depends on the form and the individual's understanding of it.
There is some REALLY deep shit that only a very select group of extremely wealthy people can afford to get away with, but that is likely more to do with the indulgences of the hyper-wealthy, self-righteous mind.
Forms like LaVeyan satanism or Crowley's Thelema I wouldn't really call bad. Degenerate, yes, but not necessarily bad.

I am a firm believer that 99% of the "good" people in the world were, unknowingly, following the tenets of LaVeyan Satanism or Thelema at one point in their life - at least in western societies. Most non-religious, athiests, and "sheeple" Christians actually align very VERY closely with the tenets of these belief systems in their day-to-day behavior.

Why don't you go back to /his/?

Yes. Stay away from it unless you want to live the rest of your life in regret.

what's the to tl;dr on the tenets?

t. Faggot whose religion tells him to be a groveling beta cuck and let niggers fuck his wife

>most satanists are atheists

Yes it's bad. Actual satanists are a minority within their own religion.

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The hell is going on in this comment section?!?!?
60 posts all saying: "NOOOOO! FUCK DIPLOMACY! I LIKE WAR! WE GOOD GUYS - WE WAR< KOREA BAD GUYS! WAR WAR WAR!!! USA!" or similar level of bullshit.
Its like the Pentagon has a bot network on reddit... or worse - Redditors are a bunch of immature teen and preteen warmongers that swallow every propaganda line fed to them by their "agenda free" news sources.
I dont know which one is the worse scenario...
I also have a feeling that if Putin said "Breathing is good for you", half of you would try to suffocate yourselves just to say that he is wrong.

>Social Darwinism
>Personal Responsibility
>Antifeminist
>Libertarian view on society
>Each satanist is expected to find and follow the political ideology that best suits them and their needs
>Realizes that people still need ritual and dogma, even though they're atheist
>Emphasises critical thought while utilising the name "satan" to scare people away normies (like Sup Forums gore threads)
>Wants an ordered society where criminals are dealt with harshly
>Against you bringing your degenerate ways into public spaces, keep it in your own homes and in private

LaVeyan Satanism is alright, Satanic Temple are wannabe larping assholea

>bad
More like larping. Even LaVey admitted he didn't believe any of it. It exists only to undermine the church and this makes it a useful tool to leftists.

It and Thelema are redpilled. They reject egalitarianism and like nonsense. Their arguments can refute left-wing morality as easily as Christian morality.

The degenerate things associated with them are degenerate when applied to the masses, and when applied by the left. Merging it with communistic 'liberation' dampens their ability to give an individual enlightenment.

Do whatever you want.
They don't believe in hurting others, but are open to it (and encourage it) if the other party is willing.
Celebration of desensitization; the idea that by pushing the mind to extremes, you come closer to a true understanding of the universe.
Worship of one's own body.

It's basically moralistic hedonism.

>11 Satanic Rules
churchofsatan.com/eleven-rules-of-earth.php

>9 Satanic Sins
churchofsatan.com/nine-satanic-sins.php

>9 Satanic Statements
churchofsatan.com/nine-satanic-statements.php

I don't like it because it implies you're still following someone. I can make my own rules, I don't need some bald count dracula type looking dude to tell me what to do.

It gives you the bedrock. Seeds ideas that allow you to break away from the constraints of leftist morality.

Sounds like still being slave but to one's one body and will.

>/his/ not /x/
also /his/ is a chip off the ol' Sup Forumsack.

satanism is for retards with no theological understanding. back to >>Sup Forums

fuck you krautfuck,I'm here for political discussion, not babby's first edgy religion.
>hurr durr is worshipping satan bad pole??? gee idk this whole satan thing is super confusing! better ask pole about lavey!

>/his/ is a chip off the ol' Sup Forumsack
How exactly? It's full of leftists.

He's not telling you what to do. He's providing a philosophy and telling each Satanist to apply it in ways that enhance their lives and goals.

A Satanist is more epicurean than hedonist.
"Indulgence, not compulsion"
For a booze lover it might be: Enjoy bourbon, but don't become reliant on it to function

But that's bullshit.
They sacrifice kids all the time, in fact, they breed therm for that very purpose.

The whole world doesn't revolve around you, deal with it. Sup Forums isn't obligated to fulfill your every desire.

/x/ is for hermeticism, not goth kids jerking each other off and microwaving hamsters. this is a bait thread for Christians and Catholics, that would be better suited for "humanities" hence

Breeding was comprehensivly disproved during the satanic panic. Stop watching Alex Jones conspiracy bullshit.

my desire? you got it twisted faggot. the sub board are for specific topics. without rules this is fucking Sup Forums, and have you seen Sup Forums lately?

LaVeyan satanism is pro-Social Darwinism, pro-eugenics, against protecting people from their own stupidity, and anti-cuck. Seems bretty based desu

>He's not telling you what to do. He's providing a philosophy and telling each Satanist to apply it in ways that enhance their lives and goals.

Sure, but I'm telling you it's still you clinging on to someone instead of thinking for yourself. Not saying I've got it all figured out either, but I think satanism might have the potential to be the catalyst to induce positive change, but for most it's a trap or a slippery slope that leads into a bad place.

You're confusing LaVey and his bunch with actual cults who sacrifice hikers innawoods.

It's not meant for most.

I don't care about what Sup Forums does.

Historical discussion was dominant on Sup Forums compared to other boards before /his/ was created. Its no wonder /his/ is filled with leftists, they hated discussing the subject with 'nazis' so they get their own board. Same thing with /news/

>is atheists larping bad?
yes.

yeah me either, but i don't want rampant shitposting off topic discussion going on here, or any board that ISN'T EXPLICITLY MADE FOR IT. stop being dense

Describe your ideal version of Sup Forums to me. Like seriously. What would be the majority of threads be about, what kind of people would come here?

This
LaVey designed it for what he called the "alien elite". The outsiders who were productive and intelligent but who fell outside of the mainstream - the weirdos and freaks (his carny influence).

Gilmore, the current administrator of the church openly admitted in an interview that most people would not enjoy the religion and would be unhappy living by it, so they should find something else to live by. But that for those who see themselves reflected in the words should seek to use it, and even use it to manipulate and exploit the idiotic masses of consumerist drones.

It does lead back to the Jews. So yes.

Yes. Satanism is bad. It is bad because it is useless.

Satanists are edgelord atheists trying to triggering christfags. Not how I'd spend my free time.

Wasn't pic related in the church of satan before he founded temple of set?

Some of them take it seriously.

you're missing the point. idc who comes here and what their ideology is, but stay on topic with actual political discussion. NOT religion, NOT blacked, NOT is "x" white/redpilled, NOT flat earth, NOT how can x compete etc etc etc

HOWEVER, i don't have an issue if it inherently related to the topic to discuss philosophy or religion, to clarify, religion and philosophy are okay when it relates to actual political discussion NOT "is it bad?" is NOT political. it isn't difficult to figure out ffs

And LaVey used to openly mock the jews and call them the eternal victims of history, while praising their ability to use it to manipulate people into doing what they wanted (his theories of lesser magic)

Yes he was. He had a falling out because he came to believe in an actual suoernatural entity, and at the same time a bunch of ther church members left in the early 90s because they had evolved into neonazis and tried to seize control of the church administration, and were booted for it.

LaVey wasn't against the neonazi part because it served their individual purposes, but he was very against the "trying to seize power" part

>Self-sacrifice because some asshole in charge who will benefit the most from sheeple going to the slaughter told me so

"...and then I told them we'd remember their sacrifice for their country."

I don't know the word but in law there's an experession for following the law to a letter and having a good balance between the literal law and what's just. These threads never catch on here and if they do they get deleted eventually, become a meme, and then die too sooner or later. Don't worry about it that much. It's like the freemason threads or shit like that we have every once in a while.

Also having board unrelated threads here and there results in better discussion than going to designated boards because there aren't established patterns of shitposting. If we had the same thread on /x/ I'm sure the thread would've devolved into shitposting already.

>NOT religion, NOT blacked, NOT is "x" white/redpilled, NOT flat earth, NOT how can x compete etc etc etc
Conflating all these topics together is clearly ingenious. It looks like one of them is not like the others! Go police some other threads, dickweed.

to be honest, it's less that the threads exist, and more about the lack of actual moderation here. why have a sticky about the board and violations and then not enforce them? the amount of deflection from actual topics to bullshit ephemera is staggering. I've been here for years and nothing has changed, it has only become worse over time. i don't even care this thread exists, i just want it placed somewhere it actually fits. there IS a board for this

Commissioner Gordon, activate the MATING SIGNAL

sorry i didn't have a comprehensive list on hand for you, maybe next time

it's cringey but not bad. i use to post on spiritual satanism boards and half of the people there were nazis

here and there is one thing, half the catalog is another.

You're looking for something that doesn't exist here and probably never will. You can't mix pseudo-anonymity and a large crowd of users and expect some enlightened board culture. Same as you can't expect anything from a system like reddit, given the upvote and forced registration system always results in attention whoring and circle jerking.

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Satanism is just a form of atheists mocks religious for childish reasons

>pick some things that commom people would/wouldn't do and say that is part of your religion

Literally the worst thing you can do.

Sup Forums has always been mostsly shit and bait threads

the only new thing is that mods dont care enough anymore

Well you'd have to get rid of Jews and lackeys from your country for it to work. Thing is USA was founded by freemasons and hebs have had their claws so deep in here it'll be nearly impossible to get rid of them.

don't use reddit and i agree that most people don't follow rules especially when anonymous, the point is, we have janitors and they don't do much of anything, except ban doxxing

I'd rather have it like the way it is than them power tripping.

This is true. I'm a Christian and I can see that they are mostly trolling. Pretty sure it still counts as devil worshipping. Tho

true enough. but you have to admit, when you scan active threads, half are just inflammatory (You) generators and 1posts

What you had at hand was clear enough to determine your general dissatisfaction, do you happen to be a satanist?

That's just how it is man. But you yourself said that you don't care about this thread that much, it's more your opinion where it might lead to and we differ mainly in our expectations. I think it will need to nothing. There won't be suddenly dozens of satanism threads on the front page.

Also look at it that way, we're having a constructive discussion aren't we?

nah, areligious mostly, but still try to follow the golden rule. too bad honor and integrity are all but dead nowadays.

The Church of Satan is practically the church of Scientology for Atheists

Now fuck off Styx

I think it's just the different side of christianity. Many modern christians don't take their belief too literal either, even though they might not be conscious about it. That said the whole satanist luciferian stuff is like how they think about jesus, only satanist admire the other team for whatever reason.

They're not atheist imo. Their about as atheistic as Jordon Peterson is christian.

kind of, but not so much really. i hate to bring Sup Forums back up, but i see it like this: Sup Forums - random discussion about anything or nothing at all, used to be fun 10 years ago when it was creative and comical. but look now, 95% dick-rate/pics you shouldn't share/big tits thread/blacked cuckold threads etc. when 95% of threads are just pornography, is that Random? no, it's degenerated into an unfunny, uncreative fap board. it's just sad really, and i don't want Sup Forums to end up the same way is all

Nothing lasts forever. Don't like being a hippie about it but that's just how it is. You're wasting your resources on thinking about nightmare szenarios.

No. Like all religions, it can be used for bad things. Satanism can do incredibly good things as well as incredibly bad things. Satanism aims towards the perfection of the individual through a flexible and individualized philosophy. Its forms are various and multitudinous and its ethics are just as vast. Satanism has the capacity for extraordinary things, as it emphasizes the liberation of the individual and their surroundings towards self perfection, either through harmony with the ego or union/separation with the spirit. This usually requires the adjustment of one's environment, resulting in a religion that seeks to consistently transform the self and society through an evolutionary and highly adaptive sociopolitical model of behavior.

I tend towards agnosticism too. I don't see how a discussion of the influence of religion on political leanings belongs on /his/
If thats the case there are other threads you should report because theology is a part of /po/

Atheist in the sense that no LaVeyan believes in an actual supernaturql being or entity.
Some believe in a "force" that can be tapped into with ritual, but believe it is a natural force or law of the Universe (like physics) that people who understand the principles of it can begin to use it to do things, but it's not a conscious being.

lol shoulda become a janitor. w/e i guess I'll move on, got it off my chest at least.

Jordon Peterson afaik doesn't believe in a supernatural force like the christian god either, at least not on a factual basis. He calls it metatruth or whatever and treats it like useful falsehoods.

/his/ is history and humanities, religion falls under humanities imo. doesn't matter, just venting as per usual. guess I'll just let it go

Ride on buddy. Don't become Don Quijote if you don't want to, fighting windmills and shit like that.

haha you're alright buddy

History and humanities is integral to politics which is why /his/ is an offshoot of Sup Forums

I am a 2-year thelemite participating in an official order. I know all about magic and secret societies up to my level of involvement.

Let me promise you: It is impossible to tell if it's bad or not. They simply don't give you secrets at the low levels, but they tell you that the powers you get at the top are amazing. It is full of intrigue and mystery, but the payoff takes many years and many do not make it.

To know if it's bad, you have to know what goes on at the top. Those who do know are very good at not telling.

Aren't you afraid it's just bridge leading into nothing? That's how some described scientology.

Yes. It is at the core of feminism, communism, socialism, fascism, Islam, and really all other major religions besides Christianity and Confucianism.

It seems sort of immature as far as spirituality goes. "Do What Thou Wilt" basically just makes you a slave to your own dopamine releases. The only ones who have any real power are the Setian and that is only because Lt Col Michael Aquino and his MindWar campaign has actual credibility in the United States military and PSYOP community. Even then, they are basically just going to use electro magnetics to alter your morality against your will and mess with your mind. Same with entraining your life force field to enslave you to their Left Hand Path will. Anything else "Satanic" aside form the Aquino agenda is basically amateurish because this guy is actually working with the ones who run the show and that is some pretty downright evil stuff. They will be defeated in the end though because the Creator is not on their side.

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I've never understood how you can be a Satanist and not be retarded. If you believe in Satan than it implies you believe in God. Why be on the losing side for fleeting ( perceived) power?

Activated.
Women across the city are removing their knickers as we speak.

Hey, do you wish to sell your soul for earthly desires?

It's libertarian learning with Lucifer!

LaVeyan Satanism doesn't believe in a literal physical satan or a god.
You start as an atheist, then recognize yourself in LaVeys philosophy and adopt it.

Spiritual satanism either believes that Satan/Lucifer is the true god of man because he gave us knowledge and freedom, or that he is more worthy of worship as the Creator has become a tyrant who rules through violent authoritarianism and as such has lost his way and must be overthrown

It'll make you die alone, mad, and penniless.

Not really, satan doesnt exist

You mean the kind Lavey espoused? The atheistic kind? I'd say it's dumb as fuck.