What's wrong with communism?

What's wrong with communism?

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nothing

human nature

People are not perfect

Correct

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It defeat market competition by making the government the only 'business on the market.' This kills productivity, ingenuity, income to the state via taxation due to a poor populace and access to the best products and services at the cheapest price. Pretty much the problem we're starting to have in certain sectors under corporatist capitalism, just with more competing businesses, even if some of them have far too large of a share of any given market to be in competition with any new businesses, only currently established ones.

Communism and socialism murdered more people than any other -cide out there.

>whats NOT wrong with communism?
thats the question you were looking for

/thread

Of course Stalin, you are a relevant source.

Wrong again

Besides the fact it never works?

Nancy Mcliberalfuckface or John Low T KANG please leave this place and go back to your feminist shithole or r/twoXchromosomes or some shit.

and wrong again
C'mon now guys, this is getting sad

Capitalists basterds

>post-commie countries never advocate for communism
really makes you think huh

bullshit jewish utopia for goyim
/thread

wrong

Communism was about sharing everything equally so that everyone gets a slice of the pie and is happy and healthy.

In reality the communist leaders take most of the pie and throw scraps to the people.

The famines of the soviet union and china are the results of communism.

Democide is the number one killer of the 20th century -- peoples death as the result of their own government.

The Stalin had monthly death quotas. 30M+ dead

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You'd honestly would chose to live in one of those countries over capitalist America?

See that picture you've posted?
It would be fantasy

THE SAME FUCKING THREAD
EVERY FUCKING DAY
S A G E

Kill yourself traitorous fuck. We need another Mannerheim to wipe the reds out.

Love how the (((commie))) responds to only retarded arguments.

>bullshit jewish utopia for goyim
Managed to kill more Jews than Hitler.

>National Socialism
Resulted in the deaths of more white Europeans than Jews.

Don't you get tired from this?

The only thing that isn't wrong with communism is it is an effective method for committing genocide to people foolish enough to let their government become communist.

our commie prime minister lost half his popular support in just under 2 years
really makes you think

Best merchant knows whats up.

You don't know Finnish history.

No

If I wanted to genocide people then I would use capitalism, see Every day Americans die because they don't have food to eat, while other people are too obese

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it doesnt work.

I noticed that too, he claimed yesterday i cant debate for shit and the moment i started bringing arguments comparing natsoc to communism, and the fact that natsoc actually WORKED he just didn't respond at all and he let his thread die.

Isn't compatible with human nature. Plus, no food.

>you don't know finnish history
Your ancestors were filthy reds who lost the civil war. You got your shit pushed in during the winter war. If Finland became communist, it'd be a post-communist third world shithole now like the rest of eastern europe. Go fuck yourself.

>What's wrong with communism?
Communism or Socialism. Communism doesn't exist and State Capitalism is the second most effective economic economic system right behind Democratic Capitalism.
Democratic Capitalism > Socialism > National Socialism > Fascism > Anarcho-Capitalism

It was retarded rambling about muh jooz and pictures without proper sources while half of it was wrong completely. I'm not going to waste my time replying to idiots.

>Memes abut gommunism ::DDD
>Spuurdo yer rong :DDD

>Actual argument
>... Onto next maymay to debank :DDDD

Fuck I wish I didn't have disgusting Finnish blood.

Not to mention it's incredibly wasteful with resources because there is no incentive for greater efficiency.

I don't understand how anyone who cares about the environment can claim to be a communist.

>Every day Americans die because they don't have food to eat, while other people are too obese

Wanna compare deaths from starvation during communism and capitalism? Also
>People dying from being too obese
This means people have more than enough food in capitalism. Death by obesity is not possible during communism because you dont have food to sustain yourself. Empty supermarkets and shops.

kys

>Wanna compare deaths from starvation during communism and capitalism
Sure, let's do it. See

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Yet saying two words ("human nature") is an argument worth responding to.

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Finns are a disgusting creature.

I can only laugh when I imagine the OP being some sperg dressing like lenin the OP pic, while mimicking his pose trying to be smug reading threads like this that only have replies saying how much communism sucks dick

Have you guys not seen pics of lefty/pol/ ? They're all chinlets who look like they unironically have autism

It's a philosophy based on envy to legitimize theft

My debate was actually regarding the economic system in national socialism, the standards of life being among the highest in nazi germany and the fact that natsoc policies made corporations work in favour of the people and the country first THEN their own interests but even then you never debated even that part.
Also if my argument was retarded you could have pointed it out and debated me and proven to everyone im retarded, yet you abandoned your thread.

>communism
>socialism

two different thing

>who look like they unironically have autism

Two different things, both cancerous and destructive to societies.

The major problem with communism and socialism is that it keeps all of the money at the top of the government and only gives scraps to the people because the government controls the money and the jobs. Well we have seen how well the government runs businesses look at the VA or Post Office.

The egalitarian nature of Marxism is contrary to human nature. Same can be said of Libertarians/AnCaps: they don't realize that their worldview is fundamentally incompatible with most humans.

Stripping the individual of it's ability to generate productive, fiscal and intellectual capital, means that those great thinkers of human history probably could not have existed.

The ability of the individual to be smarter, stronger and wiser than most of their fellow man is the only way we advance intellectually. For some of these people, personal wealth may be either the key factor or a major factor for them pushing themselves to the limit. And if they give back as much as they take out of society with the results of their personal labour, then those individuals have to be cherished, not physically removed.

Balancing the desires of the individual with the needs of the community must be the top priority of any state apparatus. Marxism acts contrary to this and as such consistently collapses under it's own numerous problems and inefficiencies wherever a political movement attempts to implement it's interpretation of it.

Also, a world where you kill so many capable members of society and have a bunch of low class 'worker' breeders starving and wasting resources/goods and services is total shit.
Communism in America would look like a metropolitan emergency room.
Just FYI, That's not what is meant by regularly using a doctor.

Jukka, mida vittu? Kas sa oled homo?

Everything from Anal to Vaginal

Pretty much this. Free Market Capitalism only appeals to nature, Socialism only appeals to nurture. Nature and nurture are both required for survival making a capitalist economy with an increasing and decreasing state via democracy the most effective system.

Notice how OP wont even debate this post even though it doesnt mention the jews or anything like that.

"state capitalism" I.e. Modern Socialism is very dependent on the world economy in order to keep your people fed. When people point to Northern Europe, they are squandering their capital generated over the last decades, and places like Norway are sitting on a ton of accessible oil and do not count.
Plus Venezuela is a great example of how socialism+massive access to high demand natural resources doesn't = successful socialism/state capitalism.

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I didn't say it was good I pointed out that it is more effect than National Socialism, Fascism and Anarcho-Capitalism. Out of all the political/economic combinations the world has experienced, it has been the second most effective (doesn't mean it's good and we should ditch are system that is working for it).

Everything. Even Lenin realized it doesn't work lol.

fasting is good for your brain and body

Not for weeks on end Ivan

>Chavez
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH

>When you fast so much you accidentally die

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>Thinks Hitler was an economic genius, not economically retarded.
I guess only retards are capable of understanding retarded shit.

Communism requires the voluntary surender to the collective society for the system to work at all. And one person not cooperating can completely unweave TRUE communism.

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Nice sauce and date you got there.

The only thing wrong with communism are the authoritarians who corrupt it.

I cannot hate fiction

Hook UP!!!

I have bad news my friend.

Get a job you autistic Fin

>and wrong again
>Post examples of socialism falling

Here's the major difference
>In Capitalism the Niggers of Africa who hold back this entire planet would starve due to lack of merit and intelligence
>In Communism the most successful of peasant farmers and everybody with any virtue would be killed leaving everyone to starve from lack of merit and intelligence

Communism inspires the weak.
Capitalism inspires the strong

what about socialism for everyone employed at least 30 hours a week

a lot

I asked my little brother (he has been brainwashed by marxists) if it was fair that I can pass on my possession to my children.

He couldn't answer me, he dodged my question, because he ultimately knows I ought to be in the right to pass on my teachings, my tools, my property to my child.
But his marxist thinking has convinced him that it shouldn't be allowed.

Communism is attacking Traditions and methods passed down from parent to child.

He has been brainfucked into believing the government should inherit everything you own when you die.
It's kind of sad.

So both create a inoperable society.

How is a society without niggers "inoperable"

Stop being a communist.

Nothing. The main advantage of socialism is that state can intentionally control economy and production, while capitalism state can only rely on "invisible hand"

Image playing RTS game where you can't control production of resources and units.

good point

simple
it doesnt work

foreignpolicyblogs.com/2009/11/03/better-red-than-unfed-a-survey-of-post-communism/

90% of players suck and/or are stupid. There's your flaw.

The 'invisible hand' is the combined processing power of hundreds of thousands of individual minds. It's the original AI.

jej
>evil marxists brainwashed my little brother
How does this work in your head? Evil Jews capture your brother, strap him onto a chair and force him to watch Fidel Castro speeches?

>I ought to be in the right to pass on my teachings, my tools
You are allowed to do that under communism, you complete retard.

>my property
You can have personal property under communism, but no private property. Learn the difference.

>Communism is attacking Traditions
>capital T Traditions
Currently? If you haven't noticed we live under global capitalism. The only thing eroding the family model is capital itself.

>the government should inherit everything you own when you die
You do realize that communism aims at abolishing the state, right?

>It's kind of sad.
I have a hunch that your little brother is the smart one.

An AI is supposed to be conscious, reasoned, rational. The invisible hand is the exact opposite: unconscious, irrational.

But let's say I agree. 90% of the people are dumb as shit. Now what? If I'm in a group of 10 people, where only 1 person is intelligent what gives us better result, economically: debating what and how to produce or just following the pre-existing norms, and hope that the market gods will like our sacrifice?

It's no accident that 80% of new companies close in their first 5 years. Capitalism's main strength is its main vice: its wastefulness, its irrational thrust.

Not something I want to live in, to be frank.

>the rich are successful because they are the most talented and virtuous
Explain Soros, Bill Gates, you cuck.

You have a soros backed CEU university in Budapest, you can go there an study how they brainwash children into communists.
I recommend you to investigate the psychology classes in particular. Those are especially good at churning out more marxists.

>You are allowed to do that under communism
That isn't what your friends are advertising. They want 100% inheritance taxes. You should do better research on how stupid your commie friends are.

>communism aims at abolishing the state
Would you entrust me absolute power to run your country, simply because I promise you I will eventually abolish myself?

Are you really that stupid?

>M-muh holocide!

It kills a lot of people. Usually the educated ones.

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Pic related is a gulag

More brutal and oppressive than literally anything you will find in a capitalist country

Prisoners treated rather well

Poland was a happy place under Soviet rule

Look at all these people liberated from the oppression of the material world

t. guily GULAG client

do good, no gulag for you