Seems like Germany and Japan were doing the right things before America stopped them.
If America just left the Axis alone and never embargoed Japan and driven them to attack the US: superior German culture would have prevailed in Eastern Europe. Superior Japanese culture would have prevailed in China.
How is Eastern Europe today? How is China today?
Fellow Americans, were we the baddies?
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Yes, because killing millions of people and destroying the order of the world was the right thing. You fucking Sup Forums kids are all fucking stupid
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Yes, because America allying itself with the Soviet Union and ensuring the survival of communist regimes was the "right thing" right? Do the millions who died due to the regimes of Stalin and Mao not matter to you?
No fuck Stalin too, he was on the same level as the Germans and Japanese. The Soviets did terrible things during WW2 except they weren't scrutinized in history after because they won. The only good guys in history are the democracies. All other government types are incorrect.
Allying with the Soviets was the only choice the allies had. The Soviet Union were the lesser of two evils only because they weren't trying to take over the world.
This. I don't understand how Sup Forums could defend evil. Unless it's just for shock value. Which it probably is.
The communist agenda is literally to united all workers of the world. They took over China as well.
There wouldn't have been a Communist China with a Japanese victory. The Soviets would have been pushed into siberia where they wouldn't have posed a threat.
>The only good guys in history are the democracies. All other government types are incorrect.
"evil" as you were taught, of course. The victories of boshevism and classic liberal ideology of the west led us to the multi-cultural shithole in which we now live.
At the time in the early 1940s, the worry wasn't about communism, it was about fascism. The goal was trying to defeat fascism, then defeating communism. Communism was required to defeat Germany
Yes, because I like having the freedom to say and do what I want
>never embargoed Japan
kek
It's another
>we forced Japan to attack us by refusing to sell them our stuff to which they were not entitled thread
Eastern Europe is just fine. Poor, but at least we don't get all the western progressive and tolerant bullshit. China speaks for itself today.
>Absolutely no sense of historical awareness
Fascism lite would be nice though, especially a body to preserve culture and stop degeneracy
How is it a shithole? We have crap like black lives matter, PC, alt-right, and feminism but other than that it's pretty damn good.
Nice double think
Doubt even the germans couldve defeated the storms of üntermenschen in russia.
Even without us help.
This. Plus there wouldn't be a communist Russia if Germany had victory.
The true evil is sitting back and letting your culture be swept away by "cultural appropriation" because democracies thought: "all men have natural rights" and communists thought: "all workers have to unite".
Give everyone the right to trample on my culture and history!
No, you would be in a worse position than you are now. You would be begging to have your freedom back.
I blame Christcuckery.
A timeless case of the right idea, but the worst possible execution
Ideas of fascism may seem nice and that's why fascism ended up taking over in Europe in the 1930s but it eventually leads to unhappiness and revolts
>we had to create a nuclear superpower that had us on the brink of annihilation to defeat a country that offered peace to Churchill 12 times
Kill yourself faggot
Better than a race war with a chance of your people getting wiped the fuck out.
All I see are countries that were relatively small and undermined by the world (Germany and Japan) that basically dominated in their part of the world until America came to tip the balance.
>but it eventually leads to unhappiness and revolts
We're talking about Fascism, not Communism.
USSR had no nukes until 1949 so...
Also the peace terms sucked.
america didnt do shit about germany, the russians won that side of the war.
What's the difference?
EXACTLY.
Germany only had ambitions east and never actually wanted to fight the west. Hitler saw bolshevism as the true evil. Churchhill was the one that just wanted to keep fighting because he couldn't surrender his pride.
>a man who accomplished more than you or any of your pathetic eunuch ancestors combined and had bigger balls than all of you combined saw this coming in 1945
One doesn't lead to those things, the other does?
>leader of the Third Army saw it coming
>DYEL virgin with a micropenis and nigger tier IQ thinks he was wrong
(((order of the world)))
Fucking shill. Central banking is real. Holohoax is an absolute proven fake
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After starting WWI, the Jews used the treaty of Versailles to tank the German economy and then made a land grab for their homeland. The Jews also added a clause into the treaty forcing England and France into war if Germany tried to take back the land it lost after WWII. England wanted no part of it, but Jews took over the media and attacked any meeting against the war, think Antifa today, and this is what brought about the death of countless millions. Hitler did nothing wrong, the Jews have been and continue to be the darkest and most evil enemy of the human race.
Well, guess Germany shouldn't have declared war on us then, huh?
You faggot, the "west" wouldn't have become degenerate if fascism won.
Eastern Europe doesn't have immigrants because they are poor as fuck and don't know how to manage their economy. You know if they actually had money it would be the same multi-cultural shitshow we see in the West today.
Not us, just (((them)))
Germany declared war because it was VERY CLEAR that the United States was going to side against it no matter what at that point, might as well secure the loyalty of the Japanese.
US have been exclusively giving Britain aid against Britain throughout the war. FDR was dying to get a reason to attack the axis.
against Germany*
>FDR was dying to get a reason to attack the axis.
No, he was afraid the Jews might suicide his family if he didn't let them pull his puppet strings
The loyalty of the Japanese was pretty unimportant, and already secure. The fact of the matter is that Germany decided to declare war against us. It was not we who declared war on them. If they were so confident that we were going to declare war on them eventually then they still could have bought time just by waiting for us to declare war on them first.
Probably right. The Jew lobbyists were probably the ones pushing for war. Just like how now they lobby to give Israel billions each year.
They even make Germany give reparations...
Germany did the right shit while the autistic nips fucked up Korea by raping,pillaging,and inhumane experiments and bombing pearl harbor for no fucking reason
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>I don't know what fascism is
We aren't a democracy though. We are a republic.
Like FDR wasn't a closet Bolshevik himself. user please.
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You need to gain some perspective and leave the suburbs for a while. If you look at any city in the US and think this is some paradise then you are delusional.
Look at the crime rate of Japan. Look at the crime rate of Germany before the migrant crisis. What a great country America is.
>burgers don't think you can be both
Another American turns out to be retarded... perplexing
neat thread
not really
it seems like every one of these threads is always an american circlejerk
Don't get me wrong, nazi germany gets my wee wee tingly too just like any of you goys, however, I doubt you very much have a place to start and propagate these threads, my 56% friend
They had to start explicitly stating that we aren't a democracy in school. We are a republic, since we don't agree on mob rule.
Why? I'm questioning my country's position in ww2.
Seems like Germans are #1 when it comes to self-loathing so it's hypocritical to say that it's not my place to criticize my government's history.
Democracy isn't a governmental form, it's a term for governmental forms where the people decides who's to rule; either directly or indirectly.
Are claiming this is not the case with the US?
You ARE a representative democracy, whether you like it or not.
Just another Amerifat believing his country is the centre of the world. The reality is if Hitler never directed the Panzers south Germany would have won the war. But he did, because he was a retarded meth addict. What kind of superior culture puts a guy like that in overall control?
>he fell for the self-loathing german meme
Those would be jews in disguise.
Sadfully, yet truthfully, I know my country is fucked
However I don't seek for the destruction of my race nor the ruins of our country. Germany will always live on, my friend
many mistakes
Operation Barbossa was a massive falter
Only because you left uncle Joe run amok after the war.
The war cry of anti-communist guerrillas in Romania was: "the Americans are coming!"
You really fucked us over.
And also in China where you switched from supporting the nationalists (which did most of the fighting against Japan) to the communists.
So yes. You fucked up.
The whole Barbarossa was a chain of fails, if he never invaded USSR he would have never lost the war.
It was a falter Stalingrad onwards. But if Churchhill just agreed to peace then Hitler would have been able to reinforce his eastern troops better.
If the Americans never joined the war, Germany could have defended against the Mongol onslaught.
No, you fool. Why are you siding with enemies which said your nation was culturally and racially inferior, tried to destroy America's longtime allies, attacked America, and torpedoed US ships?
Don't be some idiotic apologist and suck up to those who would gladly see your relatives killed.
>Germany could have defended
>Germany
>defended
another product of amerilard education
The entire point of German aggression was against Bolsheviks so not invading USSR was never an option after the starting up the German Warmachine.
Hitler just thought the west would accept peace after the fall of France, but he obviously miscalculated the stubbornness of Churchhill, FDR and the Jewish overlords.
Resources were thin, it was he went after the Russian oil fields or the middle eastern ones. It was a hard choice either way. The Jews literally surrounded him.
Until the russians would have rolled over the border.
A clash between the National Socialists and the Bolsheviks was a forgone conclusion
Most people think of normandy, the blitz, etc when they think WWII but those were small secondary fronts.
The main battle was in the east over the plains of eastern europe and russia.
DNC MURDERED SETH RICH
More like old Addy kept being an idiot and kicking hornet's nest after hornet's nest.
By 1938 he has already won. He controlled Germany, parts of Czechoslovakia, and Austria. He had gotten away with it and Chamberlain gave him peace Hitler decided to push his luck, ally with the USSR, and go after Poland.
People who act like Hitler was defending against anything are revisionist hindsight using idiots.
>offence is the best defence
>Hitler just thought the west would accept peace after the fall of France
So the only chance for him to win was allies continuing to be cucks and give him country by country, right?
>Until the russians would have rolled over the border.
This never happened and you dont know if it would ever happen
Why then soviets attacked poland in 1920?
this
the quality of american posts is seriously starting to prove my point
Hitler was arrogant with power, and likely was advised optimistically in advance, so he decided to bite off more than he could chew.
very simple, and it was a mistake
Go reread the history book, Soviet-Polish war was started by Poland, the Soviets counter-attacked and went to the very Poland.
when did you come over from syria, mohammed?
Only because Russia had absorbed Poland by that point and they were fighting to get Russia off their land.
yes yes... good...
let the butthurt flow through you...
Shut the fuck up, nigger, I was not talking to you
>finally!.. a kike that gets it.
did u guys know hitler only had 1 testicle? no wonder germany got fucked lmao
Hey fuck you, I didn't leave
>lessor of two evils
>Soviets
kek
We were always vassals of our germanic Lords now girls in my country are happy when they can suck germanic cock and our boys love to work in germanic factories placed in our colony so we can produce cheap goods for our masters.I had family members killed in WW2 by germans but i know we are just cattle for them and it is propably our fate.We cant compete against superior people from West.
Don't say such things, my slavic brother!
Things will go better, believe me