Almost every friend of mine is german, and all of them are pro-eu, most of them very openly. They dismiss everything negative about it, like how Schengen can be very very easily manipulated (which it is) to smuggle in drugs, illegals, guns etc. A typical answer i get is: >''Yes let us not help each other! Those stupid brits are now on their own!''
Including the never ending self hate brainwashing that they recieve in schools, do they also get a pro-eu brainwash? Please enlighten me.
"Help" eachother. Tell them their fucking country is trying to destroy whole fucking europe. Fuck off germany and eu.
Jaxon Miller
e ta souvlakia tote, piso sth douleia grigora :P
Jacob Perez
They tend to go full autist when following a perceived authority figure.
Jacob Jackson
because the EU draws power to Germany. Also, Germans have a massive martyr complex
Jose Powell
2 reasons
After the defeat of Nazi Germany and the reunification, there's a great urge for a new European superstate, led by the Germans. Today they are the "good guys", but it's the same old German dream of conquering Europe.
The second reason is purely economical. Germany pretends to donate lots of money to the poor European countries (along with the other western nations) but in contrast to those countries, German industry earns billions from this since the money Poland and other countries are given is directly reinvested (by regulation) in German products. Germany's trade with Eastern Europe is subsidized by the other European countries while everyone pretends like Germany are just really generous.
Because of these two reasons, the EU and the German government spends incalculable amounts on PR campaigns, sham projects etc to convince people that EU is great. Academia also holds great sociopolitical power in Germany, and virtually all science today is financed by the EU in one way or another, and the EU has special rules where they require all papers etc published with EU finance to write that everywhere to make sure everyone knows it was financed by the EU. This is of course just a scam since it would have just been financed by the government otherwise, but even smart people are easily fooled.
John King
Thanks for this reply.
It's too generalized but this is the basic idea, i see. There are also a ton of conditions whenever germany lends money to poor countries which the general public doesn't know.
Juan Thomas
malakis, they just repeat what they hear without questioning it.
Jayden Rivera
They obviously do this to increase those countries' dependence on the EU (Germany). The goal is to move power from the local governments to the EU and steal the sovereignty of nation states in Europe. With economic and political incentives they make it harder and harder to leave the EU for each day that goes by, until it will no longer be possible at all. At that point, there will no longer be any restrictions of what they can and cannot do to EU member countries.
Colton Price
I was on the continent during Brexit. I got on well with Germans. Then the vote came. I could never look at Germans the same way again. They acted like utter children and were very spiteful. It genuinely angered me and I started to realise why we always end up fighting with Germans - they have to have it THEIR way or else they throw a bitch fit.
Brody Lee
Honestly though bremainers are exactly the same way.
Carter Morgan
Stop living on campus.
Eli Flores
Becouse we profit from it faggot, why would you hate something which is good for you. Drug smuggle, illegals and weapon smuggle will never end. Just look at US where the biggest drug smuggle and illegal human trafficking are.
Grayson Brown
Well, there's only very little opposing views for Germans out there. Our government propaganda says it's good for Germany, and pretty much everyone outside of Germany (including some foreign politicians) say it's ONLY good for Germany, which may be an argument for their own people, but certainly not for Germans hearing that. If everyone says "Germany rules Europe through the EU", there's little incentive for Germans to change that, it sounds positive. That's one of the negative side effects of nationalism, the tendency to blame or attack another nation, which of course has the opposite effect on that nation's population. It's really time for nationalists in all nations to work together and use arguments that don't just generalize. Our enemies are not those other nation's people, but those people who oppose nationalism, and they are everywhere.
David Turner
Well said.
Noah Jackson
EU is indeed very profitable for germany, but it's going to burst. Germany is a very export heavy country. And slowly, the number of people who can buy the lattest BMW outside of germany will decrease until nobody can afford it.
Jonathan Clark
Because we are the only nation that benefits from the EU.
Jackson Morgan
>Why do germans love the EU so much? So they can pretend they won the war
Gavin Turner
+1 for you, Kaaskop.
Germans are always radical autists, which ever ideology they follow.
Luis Ross
Why don't Bavarians care that they are being used as Germany and the EU's piggybank?
Easton Reyes
Imagine you're in a private poker club You're winning way more than the others
why would you want to leave ?
Jonathan Rivera
They do. Just not enough to try and break away.
Robert Perez
Because at one point, i will have 95% of the pot/chips.
Nolan Hill
Because it's a proto German empire, Youre the only real country that truly benefits from it.
Other countries get handouts but those actually hold them back and it's a net lose since all their educated fuck off to richer countries like Germany. It's a pyramid scheme
Mason Russell
>What is propaganda
Matthew Young
yes but why leave earlier than that ? germany will be pro-EU until it collapses
Jacob Cook
Because Bavaria used other German states (like NRW) as a piggybank when they were just a agrarian shithole for decades.
Nicholas Thomas
But what if the pot gets bigger all the time because your idiot friends keep buying more chips, and keep borrowing chips for you. One of your friends even let you fuck his wife in return for borrowing chips for a few more games. Would you still leave the game?
Nicholas Thompson
I asked this very question here on a thread a while back and the best answer I got was from one of your countrymen - he said that to Germans, being exaggeratedly pro-EU is a way of expiating historical guilt over WW2 ("the British are the REAL Nazis!").
Grayson Smith
Realistically, if this keeps up, how long until the table flips/EU collapses?
James Davis
Mostly because we don't experience it as a loss of sovereignity. Germany is the EU and the EU is Germany. If there is a problem in Europe then it's upon us to fix it but it's also us who are saying what's do be done. There is quite an interesting talk by Peter Hitchens on yt called "The EU is the Continuation of Germany By Other Means" youtube.com/watch?v=3CNeDtZmpjU He's right on the spot. As he is so often.
Jace Morgan
Bavaria was since the Rule of Ludwig I. one of the prime kingdoms of Germany and even Europe. The fact that all the heavy industry settled along Rhein and Rhur did just help that shithole of a church state for a short amount of time. Bavaria is - since Prussia is out of business for the moment - predetermined to be the major economical and political power in Germany. Bavaria was never an "agrarian shithole" as everyone wants you to believe: We had the first railway in Germany, phantastic cultural politicies (von Klenze, Wagner), great inventions and companies (Maschinenfabrik Augsburg Nürnberg) and much more. The Saupreißn indeed should kiss our feet everyday that we keep up basic nationalist interests of the BRD and not just fuck off to Austria.
Colton Flores
Oh man, Poland wouldn't like listening to that one
Gavin Powell
Actualy not realy, we are geting ton of gibs and not receaving any refugees, but then agan our commie politicians take all the money from gibs for themselves becouse they are corupt.
Owen Gonzalez
Sory but i have to post this.
Jace Mitchell
What? why? I think everyone in Poland knows who is calling the shots. That's nothing new to them. The intended audience is the Brits who have no fucking clue about the EU and still think they are an important country.
The eu is just another way that geemany is trying to control/destroy europe. It is in your blood to oppress.
Adrian Edwards
>we are geting ton of gibs and not receaving any refugees But you have huge amounts of emigration to other EU countries.
>but then agan our commie politicians take all the money from gibs for themselves becouse they are corupt. You want to be directly governed by Germany? I'm sure we can spare one or two bureaucrats to get your post-soviet shithole up to speed.
No need to apologize, Latviabro.
Ian Bailey
>But you have huge amounts of emigration to other EU countries. Yeah but on the bright side moast of them are russians, Riga now lost 15% of russian population to EU countries and now it's 51% Latvian city unlike few years ago when it had russian mayotiry. >You want to be directly governed by Germany? I'm sure we can spare one or two bureaucrats to get your post-soviet shithole up to speed. Don't get me wrong i love germany, and i would prefear germans to be in Latvia as minority then russians like now but a lot of germans are leftwingers and would ask for more refugees at least those corupt commies are anti imigration, becouse here in Latvia there is no souch a thing as left wing or right wing there are just Latvian nationalists and russian nationalists.
Adam Long
>Riga now lost 15% of russian population to EU countries and now it's 51% Latvian city unlike few years ago when it had russian mayotiry. good to hear. Maybe Germany can at some point host a big conference as it should have happened in the early 90s and has always happened after a big war is fought out where we can clear some things out with Russia: Germany pays Russia compensation Russia gets to have Crimea and Eastern Ukraine after a referendum Russia gives back Königsberg Russia takes back its colonizing population in the Baltics from SU times
The current crisis is unnecessarily playing into America's hands and isn't resolving any of the post Cold War problems.
>and i would prefear germans to be in Latvia as minority then russians like now but a lot of germans are leftwingers and would ask for more refugees I didn't say anything about immigration of Germans. And even if there were some in Latvia I don't think you should ever give them the right to vote.
>in Latvia there is no souch a thing as left wing or right wing there are just Latvian nationalists and russian nationalists. That's probably an immunizing factor of your country. Seeing how democracy degenerates into a vote along ethnic lines (and it always does! Just look at the US) gives you a perfectly good insight why housing any sandniggers is a bad idea.
Carson Watson
>Why do germans love the EU so much?
Why do cucks love big black cocks? Because they're mentally ill.
Jace Perry
Having a shared currency with weaker nations means the currency remains artificially low while your economy booms leading to better terms of trade. Germany is gaming the international trade system and have found a palatable way to manipulate their currency.
Landon Moore
>good to hear. Maybe Germany can at some point host a big conference as it should have happened in the early 90s and has always happened after a big war is fought out where we can clear some things out with Russia: Germany pays Russia compensation Russia gets to have Crimea and Eastern Ukraine after a referendum Russia gives back Königsberg Russia takes back its colonizing population in the Baltics from SU times That would be great.
Thomas Ward
Actually there are 23M of Muslims into Europe.
Adam Scott
Because they are forbidden to love themselves and the German people.
Jackson Flores
because the EU is Germany's bitch now basically the united states of german europe every other euro country is subordinate to germoney
Evan Lee
They want to feel like they're in control, it helps distract them from the humiliation of still being an occupied country.
James White
>Why do Germans love the EU so much? They don't, Angela Merkel is screwing them.
Eli Collins
The EU is making themselves part of the deep state in the US somehow.