What's the difference between a Libertarian and an Anarcho-Capitalist?

What's the difference between a Libertarian and an Anarcho-Capitalist?

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Libertarians get ass for free Anarcho-Capitalist name their price and pay for whatever ass is on the market.

Ancap is the finally evolution of the libertarian ideology

BRAAAAPPPFFF!!

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about 4 years

Do you think her asshole smells good? Has anyone here ever smelled a woman's asshole? It's always been my fantasy.

If she's got good hygiene, it doesn't smell anything. Maybe a bit of sweat.

A clone hole's smell is intoxicating.
Almost as if it unlocks the most carnal areas of a male brain.

Smells like shit. What do you expect?

autism vs aspergers

A Libertarian (usually) is for a minimal state, where the state still has a function to maintaining courts, law, armed forces, borders and such. Usually things that they don't believe markets can do.

An An-Cap believes that the markets can do everything better and more efficiently than the state can, and/or the state doing things is immoral.

An An-Cap might call himself a libertarian since it's basically the libertarian position taken to the logical end (or extremes).

Only one of those has a chance of being enacted, while the other is a fantasy

I don't know what I expect. I guess a musky smell. But for some reason it just seems so hot if the girl is attractive.

The latter is a subset of the former.

If dirty smells like shit, really it will make you want to puke.

If clean (and bit of sweat), hard to describe but kinda musky smell, which is really arousing.

And like the extreme end of any ideology it doesn't work

Seek help you nigger, the butt hole is where poop comes out of, thats where the worst thing your body produces, purges from..and you think it would be like smelling a rose? If you want life to get better drop your sick fetishes

Degrees of sheltered sociopathy

ancaps are the delusional bunch who think we can do it without a government

>If dirty smells like shit, really it will make you want to puke.
Why have you smelled a female's DIRTY asshole? Wouldn't she want to be more or less fresh before letting you do that?

definitely an acquired smell, but boy, once you enjoy it, you can call it nature's viagra.


pee comes from dicks, so women who do bjs are into watersports.

Libertarians see government as a necessary evil thats contained to the very minimum for things like a police force, a military, courts and the like.

An-Caps see the ideal world as a post apocolyptic wasteland where the NAP is the only law of the land and breaking that law is almost certain death.

REAL capitalism has never been tried before

Smells brappy

>sex organ vs poop deposits

Really stimulating my receptors

If you have no government, therefore no borders and no other rules, i don't know. Happy eating food out of plastic from some private company guy(multiple people, multiple different freedoms) who doesn't needs regulations.

It smells earthy I suppose. It's not really a bad smell, very unique.

Licking an asshole is a delectable experience. Girls LOVE it. They coo and moan and beg for more. They know they are doing something dirty and naughty and it drives them up the wall.

Tbh, I thought she was clean. In this case I didnt even went to sniff her asshole, just kissed her ass nearby, but the smell was so bad I could feel it from the distance.

Some girls are stupid and think doing a bit of wiping is enough to make their asshole completely clean.

Ok, this made me laugh. Capitalism doesn't mean no laws though, it just means no force. As in, a donation based system of government where people choose how much they want to pay for their government as they see fit.

Of course people with a lot to lose have good incentives to pay more to protect their property, but like with taxes, citizens ultimately pay more combined so it doesn't pay for cops to go around acting as private police who violate rights.

It's an interesting thought experiment to say the least. It would remove the whole "appeal to authority" fallacy from government. They wouldn't be able to do whatever they wanted just because they got elected like they can now.

Wouldn't a handful of super rich have total control?

That's a leftie fallacy, it would just mean no government extortion for money in the form of taxation on everything.

Imagine being able to ask someone to do something for you and pay them, end of transaction.

>They know they are doing something dirty
They know YOU are doing something dirty, same with cunnilingus
There's a reason only slaves in Rome licked cunt

That's the situation we have now. Super rich people control governments through force. In a donation based society, everyone would have to get your money by providing you with goods and services. People can just stop doing business with asshole owners. We see this with FaceBook and Minds.com now.

Couldnt agree more. Was dating 18yo cutie with big ass. While doing 69, I took the opportunity and boy I was rock hard.

Race of the girl?

How are you going to arrest people if they have no IDs? They can change names any day. Oh right, there is no police anyway.

Super rich with a direct stake in the well being and prosperity of their local community and home.

I am now more interested in discussing female buttholes than Libertarians and AnCaps.

I don't know, how do we arrest illegals without papers today? You'd of course have to incentivize people to have some sort of registration for the use of services like the police. But, if you want to buy a piece of woodland and live off the land, that's fine too.

Do you not want police? I do want police, just not the kind we have today which goes around beating and arresting people for tweeting illegal opinions while letting off foreign child rapists. So as long as they do a good job, I donate. If they start violating people's rights, I don't.

pretty much this. i would unironically and gladly pay more in taxes if the actual services of my authorities weren't absolute dog shit.

We don't arrest illegals much, this is why they get away with rape, but there is still the core of system who follows laws so we can somehow extract those illegals since we eliminate legals from the guilt formula, but still have to find which illegal, then we start narrowing it down to city and look for illegals there. So there are still legal things around illegal things, which is why it works.
What is Sweden doing now? Lets see:
aftonbladet.se/nyheter/samhalle/a/yAVxg/regeringen-avskaffar-id-kontroller
>02 maj 2017
>Regeringen avskaffar id-kontroller
>The government abolishes id checks

>Anledningen är att antalet asylsökande i dag inte är lika många och att kontrollerna då inte har någon funktion.
>The reason is that the number of asylum seekers today is not as many and that the controls have no function at all.

So you see, this is why Sweden has the biggest crime on planet, since they also have very little police, but who cares about that, right? If an illegal dies, nobody knows, only those who known the illegal know, so country can still pretend nothing happened.

Look at America's spending in 2015 for example. Over 99% wasteful spending on bureaucracy and Communist programs. Imagine paying 99% less taxes than you do now and how much decision making power that gives you. Not only that, but money is a claim on value. By giving money to people who don't produce value in return, you just make the money worth less.

nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/

That's exactly right, if these people want to keep their jobs by securing donations they have to show that they add value. Right now police officers think they are God and that everyone who doesn't work for the government is property.

This is basically what countries do.

Communists had the lowest tax, monarchies the highest. What is feudalism? Farmer had barely anything to eat, everything else it was given to king. Even today monarchies have the biggest tax, picture related.
Why would Socialism have big tax? You want big GDP, Socialism wants small prices, doesn't needs to inflate prices to pretend to be millionaire. If you can buy a house for 1000 euro, then house obviously ain't worth 1 million. Socialism had one type of simple credit at end of Socialism with static ratings. When people own industry they want predictability and no competition, since everybody personally wants to predict his life. Only capitalism wants everything dynamic and unpredictable, so they can speculate and steal, to trick you. What do they do with stocks? Speculate and predict and compete, they gamble.

The idea behind such a donation based society would be to secure property, so identifying yourself and the property tied to that identity is a huge incentive to register in itself.

People don't need IDs to get arrested, just evidence of their crimes. Burning your papers does not make you immune from prosecution of any kind.

In such a donation based society there would also be no social programs other than the ones people actually want, as they can choose to participate or not. So there's no incentive for low IQ unskilled people to come over for free shit. Of course, everyone would also be armed so petty crime would inherently become so risky that it's not worth the risk.

America was very close to being a society like this between 1700 and 1900, until the federal reserve took over the government in 1913.

Under Communism there is no tax because there is no personal property. Everything belongs to the government, which supposedly represents the people. The most important personal property you have is your body and your thoughts. Under Communism, torture is okay, taking your kidneys to give to someone with more value to the nation is okay, killing you for wrong opinions is okay.

People who actually lived under Communism wrote about their experience:
archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago-Threevolumes

>Super rich with a direct stake in the well being and prosperity of their local community and home.

Lol, yeah.

>people don't need IDs
Then you are an illegal
>people will jail people
Jails are build by government or at least regulated by them, else they can torture people and nobody will know.
>people will play police
Like in Ukraine when they started civil war by pulling down Russian speakers and annoyed them? Sounds like Africa to me, where every border got corruption and you pay more than you should. Some guys sitting in tent and pretending to be police isn't justice.

>People don't need IDs to get arrested, just evidence of their crimes.
What is evidence if not ID check and witness check for which you first have to have a witness that is truthful, one with ID.
You complain that media is fucking with you, but they are because they don't go though any evidence check, they invent evidence, there's no 3rd party to check them, they are free to write any garbage they want and coin it as evidence. Who's going to be the truth speaker in anarcho-capitalism where everybody wants to be the one to be on top, you will have as many versions of truth as people, nobody needs to check anything, since there are no IDs. You get a witchhunt.

you kiss a woman on her lips and plenty of shit comes out of her mouth

I didn't even say half of those points you are "debunking". I've made my case, you are the one claiming a donation based society can't have police.

>implying that wouldn't be the case
It would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now. Where the super rich live in mansions in Switzerland isolated from the problems they cause all the while using us all as cattle.

Communism didn't rent, which means they had way more personal property than capitalism. When workers own means of production then that implies industry, not your own house. Your own house is your personal property, but capitalism doesn't even wants to give you this, since they create high prices and renting. You promote a system with no government control and yet you want international government control of elites who create money. Would be wiser to create money yourself in the country you live in? Why have dollar all around planet? Isn't that government controlling you? That's international government and you don't influence that at all. They tell you how much your money is worth and what money to use.

>Why would Socialism have big tax?
Venezuelans can't afford bread while sitting on the biggest oil reserves on the planet. Complete retardation.

>they want predictability and no competition
Leading to stagnation and high prices.

>so they can speculate and steal
Ironic coming from a lefty.

>What do they do with stocks?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_mechanism
Politicians tried taxing high frequency trading before. It resulted in destabilization of markets and lower liquidity.

>capitalism doesn't even wants to give you this
>PAAAYY
How about you work for it?

>you want international government control of elites who create money
Most libertarians are against central banking in the current form.

>Venezuela is Socialism
Only complete retards think that. First of all the official name of Sweden is Kingdom of Sweden, secondly Venezuela has constitution, same as in USA, they have identical system as in USA. Venezuela and whole of Latin America was fucked by USA, not Communists. There is no Communism in Latin America, it's all congress and their democratic ways, they even have same delegate system in some countries. But you wouldn't know that, since your pedo priests constantly shit in your brains in church.

Ancaps are retarded. Libertarians are retarded and smoke weed.

>How about you work for it?
How about i kill you and take my money back you price increasing leech from USA?
I don't need to work, you need to work and stop pushing dollars around and selling companies to USA, start doing production you useless Microsoft faggot.

its called feudalism, because the only reason the super rich would care, is if they owned it.
The super rich would care about you (in a way) if they owned you yes thats true

nothing. anarcho capitalism is an internet meme. it's literally the same thing as libertarianism with a meme title.

underrated

lel, automation is coming and it is going to turn the idea of benevolent elites on its head.

>they have identical system as in USA
Funny I didn't know the US is a centrally planned hellhole where you starve after getting robbed by the army.

End result sage

I use to think I was both... but they both pretty much have their heads up there asses and live in a fantasy land just like communists. libertarian is a bit more realistic but both overlook the fact there are people will so much resources in the world if you removed government power they would probably cull the population of the world to a billion or less and force them into slave factories to build the shit they want.

>How about i kill you and take my money
Go suck Tito's dick.

Yes, funny that everybody can't be rich in a system run by morons like you who want to exploit other people, funny how selling everything to rich people will not force rich people to give you more money. Yes, those Christian sheep literally have no brains, they think selling equally elites giving them more money, because obviously in their stupid brains they think church elites buy shit so they can waste more of their money to increase salaries.

AnCap is just anarchism. If you get rid of the government, regulations, taxes etc, you end up with capitalism. It's redundant to call it anarcho capitalism, anarchism is capitalistic by definition.

Libertarianism is for reduction of the state power. It's for smaller government. It acknowledges that the Anarchists are right about most things, but Libertarians aren't against the state entirely. You can convince a Libertarian that some regulations, laws and taxes can be in place as long as you can justify their existence. An Anarchist is not going to accept any of it, because they base their values on universal principles.

There are some pretty huge fucking differences. A Libertarian can even support more government, if they believe it will lead to less government in the future. A lot of Libertarians are white nationalists who believe that you need more deportation and a stronger fascist government to create a white society, because without white people you are never going to have a Libertarian society. As long as shitskins exist, the government is just going to continue to grow until it takes over every part of your life.
AnCaps are purists. Libertarians are more pragmatic.

kek

I don't suck Tito's cock, but you surely suck a lot of dollar penis and haven't worked a day in your life producing anything at all besides waste paper from hamburger.

ancap is someone who - when faced with knowing libertarianism is globalist and cuck as fuck and unable to actually remove anyone - comes to another level of delusion and attempts to double down on this type of thinking and becomes " ancap " and believes that even less government will mean they can achieve ethnic nationalist or culturally conservative goals.

shut up leaf... stop making sense... your giving your fellow leafs a bad rap.

kekeke

>selling everything to rich people
If you sold them something then you got their money, no?

>force rich people to give you more money
More commie talk. The biggest living standards increase happens in the freest economies like Hong Kong and the US back when they had a free market. Anyway I'm gonna assume I'm getting trolled. Lurk more if you're an actual unironic lefty.

wtf, why is everyone in your country weird

>AnCaps are purists. Libertarians are more pragmatic.
How are minarchists going to achieve their society in a democracy? More autistic screeching?
youtube.com/watch?v=d_ybi1MeC3c

you can do your degenerate consensual sex in the missionary position with the lights out for the sole purpose of procreation, but some people enjoy other forms of sex.

that's why the USA is a republic. duh...

>If you sold them something then you got their money, no?
No, you didn't get money, you got bribe and people will have less money as result, maybe you got money in that moment. Are you economic illiterate? Somebody has to build/produce what you sell. If the country doesn't builds own things any longer it's poor and the country who you sold it to is rich. Everybody that deals with selling and money should be lined up and tortured to death, none of those turds has ever produced anything at all and only lowers the richness of any country. Commies created 100% of everything you morons are selling, now you blame Commies because you sold it all. You are too dumb and to lazy to create anything new, now you import illegals to lower the salaries. You are anyway complete illiterate retard, everybody from those American-German economic schools is, no wonder we killed such high-educated low IQ morons in Socialism, you literally know nothing at all. People who deal with money aka with dollar are retards, complete retards, sell-outs who can't create anything, a flabby shits, worthless human life, waste of air. Planet doesn't needs dynamic money, it needs to kill those money trades, money exists, can be used, that's as simple concept as water flowing, there is no need for money manipulation.

I never understood why ancaps would have copyright law

>achieve ethnic nationalist
You are aware that most of your countrymen despise your views? It's when these people vote to increase immigration and fund it with taxes that the problems with immigration begin.

Made up of democratic states where universal suffrage is mandatory. I always cringe at this "argument".

>they have identical system as in USA. Venezuela and whole of Latin America was fucked by USA, not Communists. There is no Communism in Latin America, it's all congress and their democratic ways,

You should read our constituition before saying anything you know nothing about. You are very misled if you think our system has anything in common with that used by the US.

Most ancaps reject IP. These jokes have no base.

oh the founding principles are so long gone that it is not even a democracy anymore it is some combination of a corporatocracy and technocracy.

>Are you economic illiterate?
>coming from a socialist
DOHOHO

>If the country doesn't builds own things any longer it's poor and the country who you sold it to is rich.
Yea you SOLD it to someone. So invest the money, retard.

>Commies created 100% of everything you morons are selling
(you)

Depends on the chick, how recent she's showered, how well she cleans up, how recent she's shit.
>t. ashamed reformed degenerate

Roads

Personally if they did not abuse the fuck out of the copyright laws (thank mickey mouse for this bullshit) they could be fine. IP should be limited to 1 year from release date. and maybe 2 years on mechanical/electrical devices. but 100 year bullshit is insane

Brazil had extract elector college as USA:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_college
>During Brazil's military rule period, the president was elected by an electoral college comprising senators, deputies, state deputies, and lawmakers in the cities. The electoral college was replaced with a Two-round system direct election in 1989, after the restoration of democracy.

Brazil's major bank is owned by British:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itaú_Unibanco
Ownership:
sleekmoney.com/itau-unibanco-holding-s-a-itub-stake-held-by-sumitomo-mitsui-asset-management-company-ltd/1620552.html
>Schroder Investment Management Group increased its position in shares of Itau Unibanco Holding by 39.9%
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schroders
>Schroders plc is a British multinational asset management company

You have stock exchange:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BM&F_Bovespa

So don't meme me about how you are Socialism. There's a big difference between political party and system of laws. Just because you elect a political party with name "Social" doesn't implies Socialism. Goddman retard. It's just a fucking name.

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>yes goy, make the world completely run on money
Ancapism is just one step away from communism, all it takes is a private army and some ((friends)) to turn the ideology on its head

You sold Steklarno Rogaška, a europe's best glass company to Zvon, a religious company, who ruined it. Now you Americanized morons show me glass from Germany or USA which is much lower quality and teach me about how those are geniuses.
You church morons also own island Bled now. You church morons fucked up the bank by increasing stocks to lure people in, the lowered it to fuck our own bank to sell it to foreigners. You have no clue how to do business, you Christian privatizing shitlords should be all shot. You sold our Rogaška Slatina, because natural spring water, that's not what GMO faggots want, you want chloride water? Yes, so the dollar says. Lets kill all our native competition and producing and pretend those money traders are competition, lets pretend they know what the fuck they doing just because they have money. There's not one smart billionaire, all of them are complete retards that play their illuminati baphomet games and fuck themselves in the ass, since you Christian cancer keep giving them money in funeral/wedding and beyond to Israel, then they use that money and fuck you hard. Then you blame Communism, you little shit.
>btw the picture is from when Trump visited, so take it from Trump that you are a moron

>make the world completely run on money
It's more about freedom. As in the government shouldn't enslave you with massive debt.

>a private army
If the elites wanted to install a commie dictatorship it'd be easier to just co-opt the existing government.

Our country has little in common with US. Your idea is baseless.
First, the power is centralized. This is a huge diffrence, because each US state has its own criminal law, while we have one that "works" for the entire country (there are regions where you will get killed for killing or raping someone, so, it is not universal in practice, but "legally" speaking, it is).

Second, our constituition grants a lot of rights without too many duties. This results in a situation where the law says something, and the practice is another. Not all laws that are imposed are in action, because some laws don't "pega".

Third, we are obliged to vote. If you don't, you may pay a small fee, but without voting, you can't work formally or frequent university.

Forth, our worker law is CLT(Consolidação da Lei Trabalhista), a relic of fascism Getúlio Vargas left and this stubbornly prevent our economic growth. The minimum wage is adjusted every year due to inflaion(of course people lose buying power until the adjustment). In the US, the worker laws are very different. The inflation is lower, the taxes are lower, the law is more decentralized.

The caracteristics you took are not arguments. US and Brazil(Latin America in general) have very different systems.

>Our country has little in common with US. Your idea is baseless.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Brazil
You have 50 political parties, Socialism has 1.

there is none

The venezuelan issue is the end result of hyperoil production methods employed by the US and its allies, petroleum cracking (really bad for the environment by the way).

When the US cranked oil production, they were capable of fucking over most of their enemies economies, because they depended majorly on oil sales (iran, venezuela etc etc..)

Many economic woes in venezuela today are a direct result of the fall of oil prices, since their economy was not very diverse.

This is why just a few years back, Chavez had money extra enough to send all over the place, but now the economy in venezuela is fucked.

Also, the venezuelan gov is literally less communistic than the american gov, they dont have tons of gov money being thrown around in welfare, medicare, medicaid, tricare, ebt cards and all that other wealth distribution shit that americommies love so much

I know, but I mean in case of ancapism ever happening
>it's more about freedom and less government enslavement
Give the government too much power and it enslaves you, give the rich too much power and they will enslave you too, man will always be opportunistic and ambitious for power, it's just better to keep these two in a balance

I never said it is socialism, socialism is impossible, retard. I just don't know where you came from stating that Brazil and US have much in common.
Technically, it is a "social democracy".

libertarians still have a government to take care of things like roads and other public problems