> but but... he is a great businessman
Donald Trump's net worth was $200 million in 1982. If he invested that money in the S&P 500, he'd be worth about $8.3 billion today.
But his actual estimated net worth now is $3.5 billion.
He did much worse than literally doing nothing at all.
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he's a president now, Takataka
okay? you're about two years late to this discussion.
I'll be honest, I was on board the Impeach Trump train with getting Trump impeached, but yesterday I changed my mind.
All these media pieces they're running on him just feel more vicious than genuine. I'm still skeptical of him, but I don't
think he deserves to be impeached anymore. I've never seen someone so viciously attacked like him. It's pretty
obvious elites don't want him. I'm still a dem at heart but, I fully support Trump now. We can't let the deep state get
their hands on those codes
invest your net worth in the stock market what could go wrong
t. dumb faggot
I just heard this shit right multiple times on Sup Forums
>mfw I didn't see Drumpf's end started all the way back in 1982
JUST
It's easy to criticise, senpai. He's a billionaire, he's a president. What are you doing with your life?
I'm not a fan of Trump either but if he cured cancer tomorrow there would still be you liberals bitching about him.
where?
If you'd have invested $1000 into bitcoin in 2010, it would be worth over 200 million today.
>if
>if
>if
Great argument.
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He takes after his hero
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>invest your net worth in the stock market what could go wrong
in the long run, absolutely nothing,
As long as you spread it over an index and don't pick companies.
I guess financial literacy isn't Sup Forumss strength
How many people had $200 M in 1982? What percentage of them are worth more than Trump now?
>actual estimated
WEW LAD
>dude just have zero expenses for 40 years lmao
>if he had only kept a portfolio of stocks, bought and sold at precisely the right moments to maximize their profits, over the course of 35 years, he would have made more money!!!!
red herring.
Selling a reasonable amount of stock for yearly expenses would barely affect the comparison.
no, he just had to hold it.
No buying and selling at all.
and if japan had not bombed pearl harbor, you might be an independent nation today
nice try, i'm american tho
>if trump had correctly predicted the market he'd be even richer!
am I missing something or is this logic retarded?
>flag
>tr.jpg
>drumpf btfo!
sage
Tell me you proxy shill nip
if you had made better life choices, you wouldn't have had to join the military
the fact that the market, as a whole, goes up over time doesn't require any predictions. This basically just traces the economic growth of the country.
What requires predictions is trying to *beat* the market.
I'm an investment banker. Nice try again tho
Cool story. How much are you worth Tojo?
if you weren't such a fag you wouldn't have to make up lies on the internet
what is accumulated wealth?
what is power?
>he is now the most powerful man on the known world
>he did much worse
Haha op.
>investment banker
Oh you're just LARPing I'm ashamed to have posted.
>Inb4 7 figure income, a garage full of Ferraris, and a harem of josei pussy
If i invested 10$ into apple in the 80s, then i would have 10,00000000$ now.
He should have invested after 2008, because of the stock market crashed in 2000 and 2007
What's your point? Rich guy could have been richer? Yea I'm sure he is having a terrible time with only a few billion. Maybe Sup Forums can start a GoFundMe for him or something?
Your flag is a bleeding anus.
Please consider death.
and btw my own performance (as any investor's) is measured by returns over the market performance.
If I had Trump's return my clients would have fired me long ago.
>Donald Trump wouldn't have paid any taxes since 1982
Yes, very good example you got OP, very good indeed.
Then it would just be stock and not an empire. Capital is worth more then simple cash. Nip.
capital gains tax apply to either investment strategy, so point in adding it to the comparison.
>No expenses
>No tax
>No accounting for 'reasonable withdrawals' in initial estimate
It's like you're trying to seem retarded
Trump didn't put his money in the stock market.
Okay.
Instead, he built an empire! He DID something! Money isn't everything you know. He has P O W E R
He also has 5 kids that will inherit the Trump name and do something with it. Rather than giant trust-funds they would waste away on rich kid idiot activities before the inevitable O.D.
point is we have no evidence he is actually good at anything at all.
You're an extremely dumb human being
You are a literal retard if you don't understand how diversification works, please refrain from voting in the next election.
he did something yes, with much less value to society than just investing the same money in randomly selected broad market companies.
This.
i dont know if i support trump yet but all my lib friends have switched to supporting him. my family, who all voted hillary, supports him now. i'm like the only one i know that still hasnt completely switched to supporting him. its fucked up
huh? How is broad index fund not diversified?
>he did something yes, with much less value to society than just investing the same money in randomly selected broad market companies.
That's pussy shit for plebs saving for a 401k "muh index funds"
If you have 200 million, enough for 50 people to retire in comfort, and you put it in an index fund, you're a big fat pussy
He WENT for it. He learned from his mistakes. He's still richer than he was in the 80s
You could live comfortably from dividends, plus whatever job you have
lots of people "went for it" and did much better than the market in that same period of time.
Investing in S&P 500 doesn't require predicting anything
>Selling a reasonable amount of stock for yearly expenses
>No buying and selling at all.
So which is it?
Is this the Sup Forums version of shilling?
excellent point there mate
I myself am skeptical and critical of Trump, but I have learned 3 days after the Election and especially when the Media Matters dossier was leaked 2-4 months ago that the media IS the enemy of the people.
They have been planning this for some time because they don't want an outsider that doesn't align to their Globalist and Deep State agenda. Even though that agenda is actually going to do more harm than good.
IF they can't impeach him now, they will try again later, especially in 2018 if the Democrats try and take back the House.
actually i take that back.
dividends would have been enough to live like a very rich person, no need to sell any stock.
salty as soy sauce
Investing into whatever S&P 500 is wouldn't have left a trail of hotels and businesses throughout america, would it?
A White Man has to chase his dreams, it's why we conquered most of the globe. We do not, well we didn't rest on our laurels and be content with idly watching life pass us by, we desire to DO SOMETHING!
I have no idea if there is any meat in the russia allegations.
But firing Comey was the most retarded political move in history regardless of that.
We just have a very stupid and short fused president. This won't end well.
he lost money with a casino. he is not a smart man.
i dont even look at polls after they let me down. i was sure hillary would win mostly due to the polls. i hate polls now
So, say he put it all in an index when inherited, he would be 4 billion richer in dollars, but guess what is not for sale right now at this moment:
Trump tower
Mar a Lago
DC Old Post office
Turnberry Scotland
The about a dozen Trump National golf courses in America
Trump Ocean resort Baja
The half dozen Trump international mega hotels in various cities
Trump Park Avenue
Handful of Trump Parc buildings
40 Wall St
Trump Vineyard
And the infamous Trump Ice and Trump Steaks
He has far more than money sitting in some bank user, he has an empire hand built by his tastes and predilection. Any made man should aspire for the latter.
Trying to run a casino in one of the most dirty cesspools in the world infested by crooked politicians, cops, and mobsters... Perhaps he just wouldn't pay out to everyone who also wanted a slice of the pie.
HAHAH, NIPS BTFO, Y U NO HAVE EYELIDS CHINKU?
Why didn't everyone do nothing al all and then we'd all be billionaires
I see.
So he is an insecure man-child who thinks ego-inflation is more important than actually allocating capital properly.
checks out.
Should give us a good idea of how this presidency will go
sounds like jealousy.
So...why aren't you a billionaire celebrity president doctor? Oh, that's right, leftist white evny.
Thats a great political compass
>Never released taxes
>He'd be worth about 8.3 billion
So you don't know what you're talking about?
Maybe he actually wanted to do something with his life instead of putting his money in a fund and sitting on his ass for 40 years? Just a thought
Trump literally values his name for over half of his net worth. Not kidding.
His liquid assets are probably much less than a billion.
Please stop posting blimpf threads already. He was pretty funny during the election. Now he's just another puppet. There is nothing more to it.
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no, he's a moron
>Instead of building some of the most beautiful buildings, resorts and golf courses the world has ever seen, Drumpf should've just fingerpainted like an average liberal XD!
kys
He wanted to make money with his own endeavors. Why are you antagonizing him for that?
Don't you lefty faggots hate wall street?
He was never a great businessman because a great businessman answers to stockholders and the Trump business is not publically owned.
Literal yes men all his life. The American people got conned. He's never really worked with anyone. It's really fucking showing now too.
Yeah im sure all the time traveling investors predicted trillions of QE...
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they are pretty cheesy and horrible actually. I've been
Would you rather be a nobody who's worth $8.3 billion at the age of 70 after decades of stashing all your money in the S&P, or be one of the most famous people in history who becomes the POTUS after decades of living lavishly and building gold towers that wear your name, who's worth $3.5 billion?
the first option, actually.
not into ego tripping very much.
Kek
Keep talking, baizuo. You are hated more in the east than over here.
Yeah, seriously. I have seen this kind of message pop up a lot on here recently. "Me and all my friends are liberals, but recently the media AKA deep state has been so hard on him, I'm starting to switch sides, etc".
heh
Let's say that Trump took all his assets and put them into the S&P 500 in 1982. If he didn't touch it this whole time - during the recessions we've had since the early 80s and despite all potential living and operating costs at stake, he would likely end up giving away 40-50% in capital gains taxes and fees.
He would have about $4.2 billion or an extra $700 million compared to what he has now, minus 30 years living an exuberant lifestyle filled with lambos, choppers, and mansions.
>all the newfags replying itt
JUST LET IT DIE. IMAGINE JUST NOT REPLYING TO ANY OF THESE OBVIOUSLY RETARDED THREADS AND HAVING THEM ALL GET 0 REPLIES AND DYING INSTANTLY. AT LEAST PUT SAGE IN THE OPTIONS BAR IF YOU REALLY CANT HELP YOURSELF
Well Trump is, and now his name will live on in history forever.
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1) capital gains are only paid when you sell the stock
2) dividends alone would be easily be sufficient to fund his lavish lifestyle.
>Donald Trump's net worth was $200 million in 1982. If he invested that money in the S&P 500, he'd be worth about $8.3 billion today.
>But his actual estimated net worth now is $3.5 billion.
muh drumptpfth shouldnt have done anything but invest the money.
Then I can complain that his just a rich trust fund asshole who has never worked a day in his life.
got it.
so basically fuck draupmph 2scoops, russian hackers, obamacare driving down the cost of medical care, pelosi is gorgeous, achmeds clock is beyond Einsteins comprehension.
lol wtf
what does multiculturalism have to Trump being an idiot
But he has been able to employ many people through his businesses. So I guess he's pretty generous if he's willing to sacrifice financial gain to help so many people find work
>2) dividends alone would be easily be sufficient to fund his lavish lifestyle
get a load of this guy, hes in charge of deciding how lavish someone should live.
GO HOMU FILTHY WHAITO PIGGU
>you need 4 mill to retire comfortably
Do you live in Manhattan or something?